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La SS LAZIO => THE PLAYERS MERCATO "ROLLERCOASTER" => Topic started by: Amir on January 14, 2014, 10:40:00 AM

Title: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 14, 2014, 10:40:00 AM
Here we go in another roller coaster.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 14, 2014, 10:46:20 AM
My simple wishes for the present mercato:


Floccari to Atalanta + cash for Denis

Hernanes sold for everything over 15 million Euros, or

Hernanes to Milan for a striker + money for us.


Health and only health to our players.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 14, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Guarin + 17M for Hernanes? Inter aren't that stupid. The Colombian is wanted by Chelsea and will probably end up there and to be honest I don't want a player like him in Lazio. He makes one good game and in the 3,4 does nothing. Lazio have such players.

Paulinho? Seriously? I'd be a better signing for the club.

Matri and Quags would be good additions. I'm confident that Matri needs a change to a smaller club and will restart his career showing what he can really do. Quags can't be a starter with players like Tevez and Llorente in Juve but whenever he comes in as a sub he showes that he still has got a lot of football in his feet.

Torres? I've never heard of this guy and to be honest I don't want to see him in Lazio. Why? Because he doesn't have European experience and I'd rather stay with what we have.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 14, 2014, 10:49:31 AM
It's the perfect time to open a new topic! With the mercato open and all the rumors surrounding our players.. Hernanes and Floccari are the hotest targets by other italian teams i reckon, while on the other hand we are rumored to be linked with the likes of Matri, Quags, Cannavaro, Denis and Paulinho.. I don't see Lotare moving to any of these names as i'm sure Tare's mind in some swiss or albanian league looking for cheaper options.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 14, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
Paulinho? Seriously? I'd be a better signing for the club.
Do you have an agent?  :vcool:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 14, 2014, 10:51:55 AM
Super cool! Thanks Amir!

Shall I start with a summary of the current rumours?

Possible arrivals:

We are looking for a striker. Many names mentioned, some realistic ones being:
Quag (apparently we have offered 6 mil euro)
Denis (apparently we want to offer Floc + money)
Diego Tardelli (some reports saying that we have an agent in Brazil negotiating)
Matri
Paulinho

We are also linked to Jorge Torres (26), a mexican defender. Decent, NT player.

We were linked to Cannavaro but the agent denied contact. He did say however that his client would accept immediately a call from Reja. Reja however denied that we are looking for a defender.

On the departures front:

Today the story emerged that Inter wants Hernanes and that Lotito is asking for 17 mil. Milan might also be interested for that price (though with Kaka, Honda, Montolivo, etc you might wonder if they need Hernanes).

Other players wanted by the big are Marchetti (apparently it will depend on what Seedorf thinks of Amelia - Milan might become interested soon) and Lulic (for which Juve offered 6 mil - too less for Lotito).
Floccari is also on the departure list, with Bologna offering 800k for him (too low) and Atalanta and Samp making enquiries. lotito asks 2.5 mil for him but might reconsider that since Floc will be free soon.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 14, 2014, 10:54:10 AM
Do you have an agent?  :vcool:

After seeing your picture with a suit I can hire you. You look good and a bit gansterish... :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 14, 2014, 11:27:56 AM
Everyone is neglecting the most realistic rumour of all which is Croatian 18 year-old midfielder Mario Pasalic, the Hajduk Split midfielder that Reja knows first hand and who is regarded as one to watch for the future given his impressive goalscoring record since he broke into the first team there.

He's the name that is appearing in the newspapers. Not Quags, or Denis, or whoever.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 11:48:23 AM
He can't be cheap?

also is he a playmaker, attacking kind of midfielder or second striker?

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 14, 2014, 11:56:06 AM
He can't be cheap?

also is he a playmaker, attacking kind of midfielder or second striker?

3 million should do it, maybe 2. Eintracht Frankfurt are also reported to be keen.

He's a centre-mid, through and through. Whether or not his position would change in Serie A, I don't know.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 14, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
Pasalic is NO striker, and not a second one! In my opinion he is playing on a position where Hernanes plays, but also deeper.
This guy gets 19 soon. I don't think that if we bring him, he would be in the starting eleven.
His stats are impressive in the moment, but i don't know if he would put us forward.
In my opinion 2 mill. should do it in that case.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on January 14, 2014, 12:05:31 PM
I also guess he is like hernanes based on his goal record in Croatian. I'm just afraid he will be put in primavera like elez if he really comes.

Another croatian players who has been linking with us is Ivan Santini (24 years old), striker and currently playing for SC Freiburg. His value is 2.5 million euro.

edit: not official yet, but it seems matri has agreed to join with fiorentina (on loan).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 14, 2014, 12:32:00 PM
Another croatian players who has been linking with us is Ivan Santini (24 years old), striker and currently playing for SC Freiburg. His value is 2.5 million euro.

He actually plays in Belgium, as he was sent to KV Kortrijk on loan, and he is one of the top goalscorers in the Jupiler League this season.

It's a very convenient rumour and although Belgian football is improving, the league isn't and we only need to look to Biglia to know how players in Belgium can be overrated.

The thing is, we cast our eye over Bacca and did nothing about him and he's gone to Sevilla and found the net with ease. There is a chance we're still looking in Belgium for some striking talent on that basis.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 01:07:22 PM
Lol, Milan offered Matri in a direct swap with us for Hernanes.

He's not even worth half of what hernanes is worth, even with Hernanes looking like a shadow of what he used to be like.

Sell him to Inter, at least they have money.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 01:12:45 PM
All of these players we are linked with, my only concern is I don't get what the plan is.

I thought it was obvious by now that we do not need more talents or more back up players, we need players that can walk into the starting 11 and IMPROVE the team, make it stronger.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 14, 2014, 01:55:50 PM
All of these players we are linked with, my only concern is I don't get what the plan is.


apparently there's no plan at all. so i will ask the guys (conn + paulo) to open a week for our trial in the week of the derby and definitely, one of us could fit in !!! :wow:

sad enough, we're only looking for bargains. not trying to assess our squad and strengthen accordingly no matter what.

at this point, i believe Hernanes should get a go. for the sake of everybody involved...
i see many average players doing much better than him at the moment.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 14, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
Forget about Matri fellas,

Tassoti just confirmed that Matri is going on loan at Fiorentina - he is taking his medical tomorrow.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
Tomorrow the first half of the mercato will be gone? A lot of you will be like..big deal we have two weeks.

Think about how long it takes Lotito to do business.

it has been stated already, that in order to do business we must first sell...and there's nothing yet.

Already waiting for the infamous 31st and the clown that is Lotito coming up with his bullshit stories about broken fax machines, agents who demand insane fees and what else he can come up with.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 14, 2014, 03:26:38 PM
We were linked to Cannavaro but the agent denied contact. He did say however that his client would accept immediately a call from Reja. Reja however denied that we are looking for a defender.


Don't know why you keep saying this. Reja clearly stated that before we can buy a defender we must sell one. That doesn't mean that he is not interested in one. Furthered by the fact, before the Bologna match, he was asked if Lazio would sign Cannavaro, he replied 'maybe'.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 14, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
We were linked to Cannavaro but the agent denied contact. He did say however that his client would accept immediately a call from Reja. Reja however denied that we are looking for a defender.


Don't know why you keep saying this. Reja clearly stated that before we can buy a defender we must sell one. That doesn't mean that he is not interested in one. Furthered by the fact, before the Bologna match, he was asked if Lazio would sign Cannavaro, he replied 'maybe'.

no, he said that we have enough defenders. he said that in case we sell one, we might look into buying one. there is no mentioning that we are trying to sell one defender. i mean u can twist the words the way you like to hear them, of course. and reja was asked if he likes cannavaro and if he would sign him, not if Lazio would sign him.

the truth is this: Cannavaro's agent says that there was only one offer so far, from Fulminense (Brazil). even if reja has wet dreams about cannavaro, without an offer nothing will happen. so we can keep on speculating as much as we want but our actions (allowing Dias to stay, starting to play Ciani and Nova, no rumors on sales, Reja saying that we have enough defenders) show that we are not looking for a defender.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 14, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
Tomorrow the first half of the mercato will be gone? A lot of you will be like..big deal we have two weeks.

Think about how long it takes Lotito to do business.

it has been stated already, that in order to do business we must first sell...and there's nothing yet.

Already waiting for the infamous 31st and the clown that is Lotito coming up with his bullshit stories about broken fax machines, agents who demand insane fees and what else he can come up with.

on the other hand, no other team except Milan made major deals so far.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 14, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
So, if you are waiting for some big signature and then left disappointed come the end of mercato, you can only blame yourself !
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 14, 2014, 04:04:40 PM
don't think were going to get anyone young and from a foreign league (thankfully)

Reja wants experienced Serie A players.


as much as i like(d) hernanes , its time to move on, take th 17 million and run.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 14, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
Another croatian players who has been linking with us is Ivan Santini (24 years old), striker and currently playing for SC Freiburg. His value is 2.5 million euro.

He actually plays in Belgium, as he was sent to KV Kortrijk on loan, and he is one of the top goalscorers in the Jupiler League this season.

It's a very convenient rumour and although Belgian football is improving, the league isn't and we only need to look to Biglia to know how players in Belgium can be overrated.

The thing is, we cast our eye over Bacca and did nothing about him and he's gone to Sevilla and found the net with ease. There is a chance we're still looking in Belgium for some striking talent on that basis.

Offcourse i know the belguim league very well! Ivan Santini (Kortrijk) is currently the most dangerous man in the box in belguim, a ruthless striker, but really hard to say if he could pull it of on a highier level.  He could be compared with Thereau (Chievo) when he played in belgium.  Also he's a box-striker who absolutely adds nothing in the gameplay elsewhere.  He needs to be served otherwise he's not visible for 90 mins.  Lazio material?  In my opinion, NO!  Djordjevic is of a higher level without a doubt. I know Bacca even better as a player, also on a higher level then Santini and can create something, but really would not have been good enough for 1st striker at Lazio. He's also best on coming from the leftflank as a rightfooted player.  Comparing those 3 strikers, for Lazio i would always choose Djordjevic at all time ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 14, 2014, 04:28:16 PM
My interpretation of it is Reja wants Cannavaro but is waiting to sell one of our current defenders, most likely Ciani. Reja spoke fondly of Paolo's leadership qualities; I remember watching him closely when City played Napoli in 2011, and he didn't stop talking and organising the rest of the defence. Those qualities would be a huge asset to us in the coming years, especially as one of, if not both, Biava and Dias will be leaving in the summer; we might see Crescenzi or Elez brought into the first team squad. They'll need direction.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 14, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
Tomorrow the first half of the mercato will be gone? A lot of you will be like..big deal we have two weeks.

Think about how long it takes Lotito to do business.

it has been stated already, that in order to do business we must first sell...and there's nothing yet.

Already waiting for the infamous 31st and the clown that is Lotito coming up with his bullshit stories about broken fax machines, agents who demand insane fees and what else he can come up with.

on the other hand, no other team except Milan made major deals so far.

Oh really man? who needs reinforcements other than our pioneer team? merda got Naingollan, a player that i always wished to play for lazio. juventus and napoli are WAYYYYYYY better than us (both out of CL) they don't need anything this season but to compete on the scudetto. inter seems to be moving things around. the only team who's working without a vision is us... sad enough but true. i wonder with this philosophy, how much years it would take us to be in CL football again.  :wuzz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 14, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
How about Schelotto (http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2045)?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 14, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
How about Schelotto ([url]http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2045[/url])?


no, thanks...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 14, 2014, 04:59:39 PM
So many names and nothing...
Most of the serious Serie A teams who want to achieve something are buying new reinforcements for the second part of the season. Everyone can see that Lazio needs new and quality players... everyone except Lotito.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 14, 2014, 05:00:55 PM
How about Schelotto ([url]http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2045[/url])?


Prandelli told him to revert to fullback; he lacks the subtly of an old-fashioned winger, but can run all day. His addition could see Candreva used wide left, facilitating the sale of Lulic to Juventus if they increase their initial offer. Glad it appears Reja is insisting on Serie A players, as our summer imports have had absolutely no impact whatsoever.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 05:02:10 PM
How about Schelotto ([url]http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2045[/url])?


no, thanks...


Agreed

I can understand any player who had issues settling in at inter, with it being a mad house in the last few seasons. But the fact he can't even get a regular spot in Sassulo shows you a lot about his abilities as a football player.

Waste of money to sign him, he is worse than what we have sitting on the bench.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 05:10:48 PM
Atletico Madrid seems to be after Hernanes again, they probably have more money to spend than the two Milano clubs and if we send him to Spain we won't have to worry about him making a rival stronger.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 14, 2014, 05:40:40 PM
Atletico are broke.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 14, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
We were linked to Cannavaro but the agent denied contact. He did say however that his client would accept immediately a call from Reja. Reja however denied that we are looking for a defender.


Don't know why you keep saying this. Reja clearly stated that before we can buy a defender we must sell one. That doesn't mean that he is not interested in one. Furthered by the fact, before the Bologna match, he was asked if Lazio would sign Cannavaro, he replied 'maybe'.

no, he said that we have enough defenders. he said that in case we sell one, we might look into buying one. there is no mentioning that we are trying to sell one defender. i mean u can twist the words the way you like to hear them, of course. and reja was asked if he likes cannavaro and if he would sign him, not if Lazio would sign him.

the truth is this: Cannavaro's agent says that there was only one offer so far, from Fulminense (Brazil). even if reja has wet dreams about cannavaro, without an offer nothing will happen. so we can keep on speculating as much as we want but our actions (allowing Dias to stay, starting to play Ciani and Nova, no rumors on sales, Reja saying that we have enough defenders) show that we are not looking for a defender.

I'm afraid you are the one twisting it, I translated your quote direct from Reja. He never said I don't want a defender. Yes he said we have enough, because we do - regardless of quality, and if we want another we have to sell, because we do! Simple business man. That is all he said. I would be twisting his words if I said he wants a defender, but I didn't, I simply said he hasn't said he doesn't want one.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 14, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
Atletico Madrid seems to be after Hernanes again, they probably have more money to spend than the two Milano clubs and if we send him to Spain we won't have to worry about him making a rival stronger.

Atletico are broke.

now that is interesting !! can you guys elaborate a bit? i mean you just gave two opposites statement without any evidence...i'm not getting how some football clubs are so rich vs our very poor financial stature.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 14, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Atletico Madrid seems to be after Hernanes again, they probably have more money to spend than the two Milano clubs and if we send him to Spain we won't have to worry about him making a rival stronger.

Atletico are broke.

now that is interesting !! can you guys elaborate a bit? i mean you just gave two opposites statement without any evidence...i'm not getting how some football clubs are so rich vs our very poor financial stature.

As far as I know, Atletico have quite huge debt and for example money from Falcao went mostly to pay those debts. So they are broke, and Inter should have most money now they have Thorir.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
I made the statement that Atletico must have more money because they are in the CL, they sold Falcao recently, spanish football seem to be okay financially ( unlike everything else is in their country )

I could be wrong though..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 14, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
Spainish football is starting to really struggle financially, the banks are calling in their overdue loans and all the clubs have hefty backtaxes etc to pay back as well. The likes of Real, Barca, Atletico, Athletic Bilbao and Villarreal will keep on doing what their doing but the rest, Valencia included, face a struggle to keep their best players. The likes of Swansea have shown what value for money you can get from Spain these days.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ArmLaziale on January 14, 2014, 08:14:26 PM
Am I the only one who thinks we have no money for transfers? Unless we sell someone (Floccari maybe) we won't be able to spend. We got Biglia, Anderson and others this summer so that probably means we don't have much to spend does it? Plus looking at our current squad, which is wide on quantity, there are some wages to be payed. The likes of Cana and Ederson for example are getting 2mln and almost as much after all, we are in a very ineffective situation.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Taib on January 14, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
The fact that Atletico Madrid have European prize money withheld recently shows they are in debt.

Atletico Madrid are in massive debt. They owe more then €100 million just to the Spanish tax authorities alone. They also have bank debt as well. Their estimated debt is over €300 million. La Liga is massive debt. According to Jose Maria Gay a Catalan economist La Liga debt is over €3.6 billion.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 14, 2014, 09:59:22 PM
Look at Cani and Novarettis abilities..or lack of. Then add how injury prone Biava is and how likely it is to see dias suspended.

We need a new CB more than a new striker.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 15, 2014, 12:35:48 AM
Reja has been pretty clear about the mercato I would think.

He's said he's told Lotito what he wants and that Lotito intends to act on it.

Basically, offload a defender and a forward and bring in new players in those positions. I'm still fairly optimistic we will land Cannavaro.

As for those saying "half the mercato is over wah wah", business is always done at the end of the month. Just have patience.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 15, 2014, 02:38:38 AM
I heard Inter's initial offer was €12m, and co-ownerships of both Schelotto and Andreolli. Andreolli was decent at Chievo, and would be good cover, better than Cana, Ciani and Novaretti. I'd try to get half of Ricky Alvarez thrown in; he performed well as a support striker at the start of the season, but Mazzarri inexplicably placed him deeper and sat Guarin behind Palacio. If Hernanes goes there, Ricky will struggle for games and could play any of our attacking midfield roles.

I personally will be sad to see Floccari go; he did a lot for us in the second half revival in 2010.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 15, 2014, 06:45:48 AM
I haven't heard any comment from Tare or Lotito lately about the mercato. They haven't - yet - promised us 3 champions as they do every 6 months..

@Caput - Yes, I agree with what you're saying. Reja seems to have asked to offload one defender (Novaretti or Ciani most probably) and one attacker (floccari - he hasn't featured yet with him) and bring in two fresh players who can participate directly.

Anderson and Ederson did well last night to create chances, with Onazi putting in a Pirlo like performance (first half at least).. I think that satisfied Reja a bit and I doubt he will look for reinforcements in midfield (he still had the 5 regulars on bench - lulic, candreva, hernanes, Gonzales and Ledesma)..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 15, 2014, 07:07:54 AM
What Reja has done with his short comment is effectively put all the pressure on Lotito to do something.

Everyone knows where the deficiencies are and what the coach wants and having just called on him to bail out the team, Lotito really has little choice but to back the coach in.

I agree with everyone who will be sad to see Floccari go. The guy's been immense but we overlooked sentiment with more important figures like Rocchi so if there is a chance to cash in on Sergio, we have to take it. His best years are long since finished.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 15, 2014, 07:23:16 AM
After last night performance from Ciani/Nova, it cannot be more clear.  When Dias/Biava's last season is over in the summer we will have nothing decent left.  Nova/Ciani are a disaster together and apart also not good enough.  I would sell Ciani this mercato if there is a chance, he's the worst in my opinion.  I know we still have Cana, but he's not even a CB, he's an MF. 

It's so crucial getting a CB this mercato, don't really care what else happens.  Cannavaro should come and offload Ciani?  Then in the summer another quality CB is very much needed.  Also, Elez needs to come in now.

Perea cannot go out on loan, he will be needed bigtime.  If Flocc is sold this month and Klose leave in the summer, it will only be him and a new striker (Djordjevic?) and possible/hopefully a promotion for Tounkara?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 09:17:53 AM
After last night certain things became clearer:

Felipe Anderson can successfully replace Hernanes
Perea is good enough as a second striker Klose
Keita needs more time to mature
Ciani is sort of ok, but Nova is certainly not at Serie A requirements
Ederson was a bit of dissapointment and I would not be surprised if he will be sold
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 09:20:40 AM
One thing: the exchange Hernanes - Guarin can be actually Reja's idea. Do you remember how bad he wanted Guarin and how pissed of was when Inter signed him from Porto? He came out and said that we've chased him for almost a year and Inter still managed to get him. Nevertheless, I believe that Guarin will not accept to move to us.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 15, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
Guarin will not join Lazio when Chelsea wants him. That rumor is totally fake in my opinion.
If we let Hernanes go, it will be for cash, or for cash + a player who is not a real good one.

For me it is clear that Lazio is most working on offloading a defender to bring a new one, and trying to cash in Floccari to get another striker instead of him.
These are the only plans which i think for NOW ... they are possible.

I agree with drazvan that Anderson can replace a Hernanes (what is not difficult in current times), but if we sell him in January? ... i don't know. I guess it is not planned, but i don't rule out a last minute sell IF a good offer arrives.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 15, 2014, 10:26:26 AM
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Lazio are set to renew their long-standing interest in PSV striker Tim Matavz. The Slovenian has a contract until the summer of 2016 but the club could be persuaded to sell.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 15, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
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Lazio are set to renew their long-standing interest in PSV striker Tim Matavz. The Slovenian has a contract until the summer of 2016 but the club could be persuaded to sell.

Matavz?  God please no, Perea has more quality, this would be a step back!
Hope this is just a rumour?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Ed on January 15, 2014, 11:08:19 AM
I want some decent players :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 15, 2014, 11:34:40 AM
I don`t think we will go for any other striker until options for Quagliarela and/or Denis are exhausted.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 15, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
Matavz?  God please no, Perea has more quality, this would be a step back!
Hope this is just a rumour?

Matavz has been a rumour since the summer mercato. I was postive for him in the summer but now I don't know. He has been injured since november and is expected back in a month or so.

In summer they were talking about €10 mil which were too much imo, if PSV now wants to offload him and since he's currenctly injured I'd definetely take him if the price is €4-5 mil.

Matavz has more quality then Perea for sure, Perea is 5 years younger and has just a handful of senior matches in Europe so far. Perea can become great but it's a long way to go. Matavz been scoring goals for years now, and in the national team as well and would be a step up from both Perea and Floccari.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 15, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
Guidetti to Stoke is official, so whoever came up with that rumour looks stupid now.

But that doesn't stop them doesn't it? The papers are really going to town on the striker idea.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 12:29:48 PM
Matavz would be a great addition in my opinion (I've watched him play last year). This year was not so good for him mainly because of him wanting to leave so much. But he is a great striker that can do good. And we could get a discount price since PSV is looking for a buyer.

Apparently Milan offered money + Cristante for Hernanes. Lotito refused and asked 20 mil. I am wondering what can Milan possibly do with Hernanes? They've signed Honda, they have Kaka, Montolivo and Poli. I would actually ask 10 mil + Poli for Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 15, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
Apparently Reja confirmed today, Lazio will go on the market.
Not saying anymore offcourse, not known wich players they will be actually going for or for wich positions?
Also Reja expects Hernanes to stay, unless a major offer comes in, Lotito possibly wants 20mill.

So, get ready for 15 more days of rumours and the at the 31st the usual chaos ......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 15, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 01:04:06 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.

3 mil is too less. sure, in serie A makes sense but we could sell him after the WC for more than that outside. he is not a bad player, just he doesnt adapt good so far. maybe reja can make something better of him, especially if Hernanes leaves.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 01:50:41 PM
Apparently Inter offered money + 50% of Botta and Belfodil for Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 15, 2014, 02:00:10 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.

3 mil is too less. sure, in serie A makes sense but we could sell him after the WC for more than that outside. he is not a bad player, just he doesnt adapt good so far. maybe reja can make something better of him, especially if Hernanes leaves.

If Lazio would have payed 3mill i would be the first to say, deal!
But, Biglia came for more than 6mill, it would be a huge financial loss ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 15, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
Hajduk Split confirmed our interest in Mario Pasalic, but it doesn't seem too serious.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 15, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.

That's the problem, we can easily function without any of the summer signings, therefore none of them are making a major impact, with the exception of Perea. Anderson is exciting to me though, I think he has a good future, so he is a keeper. I guess my point is, if Reja is to pick his starting eleven from a fully fit squad, no summer signing would be in it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 15, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
The even more worrying thing is that it seems we intend to sign more players to make the squad deeper..instead of looking at the starting 11.

You want to sign a striker? sign someone who takes the spot from Klose. We already have Floc and Perea as back up, we don't need more back up strikers.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 15, 2014, 02:13:30 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.

That's the problem, we can easily function without any of the summer signings, therefore none of them are making a major impact, with the exception of Perea. Anderson is exciting to me though, I think he has a good future, so he is a keeper. I guess my point is, if Reja is to pick his starting eleven from a fully fit squad, no summer signing would be in it.

That was why I was very vocal about the summer mercato. That was obvious six months ago.

I guess that's why I am not too worked up about this mercato, because the only way to validate the moves in the previous window is to keep the faith in those players during the current window.

The problem with that is the fact that Reja keeps saying he is expecting additions. He's not on the same wavelength.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 15, 2014, 02:16:26 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.

That's the problem, we can easily function without any of the summer signings, therefore none of them are making a major impact, with the exception of Perea. Anderson is exciting to me though, I think he has a good future, so he is a keeper. I guess my point is, if Reja is to pick his starting eleven from a fully fit squad, no summer signing would be in it.

That was why I was very vocal about the summer mercato. That was obvious six months ago.

I guess that's why I am not too worked up about this mercato, because the only way to validate the moves in the previous window is to keep the faith in those players during the current window.

The problem with that is the fact that Reja keeps saying he is expecting additions. He's not on the same wavelength.

Well he wouldn't be since he wasn't here, didn't want and didn't ask for any of the summer signings. You usually see a clear out when a new manager comes in, it's just very bad timing since we spent a lot of money on these players only 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 15, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
Well he wouldn't be since he wasn't here, didn't want and didn't ask for any of the summer signings. You usually see a clear out when a new manager comes in, it's just very bad timing since we spent a lot of money on these players only 6 months ago.

But when we don't know how long he's going to be here for, I don't know whether I want the genie to grant his wishes.

Reja does seem keen on using Felipe Anderson, but perhaps it's worth remembering Del Nero's suggestion that Reja would have kept him at the club had he adopted a Brazilian name. The man likes Brazilians.

He also has his favourites, but thankfully has taken some of Petkovic's ideas on board (such as using Gonzalez as a DM rather than an AM or a winger) but I've always felt as a manager, he operates best when you don't give him options and don't let him make decisions.



Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 02:35:01 PM
Hmmm. We are talking only about Biglia and Novaretti, right? Cause I did not see Vinicius play, Felipe Anderson did pretty good when played (at least above Ederson) and Perea was also decent (above Floccari I would say). In that case I would say that we will not lose a lot. Biglia has a good market (argenitinian NT) if Reja cannot fit him in and Novaretti came for free.

I think Reja favors brazilians and I've seen him several times yesterday giving indications to Felipe Anderson. I think he likes him, he just thinks that he has still to learn. Also Ederson seems to be getting time, so that is positive. I think we will see what Reja likes or not in the game against Udinese. If he switches back to the safe formation (leaving all Onazi, Felipe, Ederson and Perea out) than he was not impressed.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 15, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Inter want Hernanes. They try to involve other players in the deal - Belfodil and some others. But Lotito wants 20 mil or at least 17.

About Ederson - i think that he can do better than Hernanes as attacking playmaker behind the central forward. Because now we try to play more direct football, fast, counter-attacking, and Hernanes is very slow at moments, need to much time to work on the ball. On the other side Ederson is much more direct footballer, he can turn fast and won't slow our attack.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
Inter offered some percentages of Andreolli, Botta and/or Belfodil. I just hope that this does not transforms into a Zarate deal in which we give them Hernanes for a small amount on loan with a riscatto in summer. Belfodil could help us. The other 2 are not better than what we have in my opinion.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 15, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
There's a rumour out there that Bologna offered 3 million euro for Biglia, and I was just thinking last night, it would not surprise me if we find Lazio selling him sooner rather than later.

Think about it - the last time we brought in a player for 6 million in a summer market and he did not do what we all expected, he was sold on (Cissé).

You get the vibe from Reja's press conferences that he's not that impressed with what has been brought in since he was last here, and that he would not object to shipping a few of those dudes out.

That's the problem, we can easily function without any of the summer signings, therefore none of them are making a major impact, with the exception of Perea. Anderson is exciting to me though, I think he has a good future, so he is a keeper. I guess my point is, if Reja is to pick his starting eleven from a fully fit squad, no summer signing would be in it.

In my humble opinion on the recent mercato's there were bad signings and signings who do not make a difference, but also promissing siginings who already contribute.

negative and/or indifferent:     ciani / novaretti / biglia / pereirinha

positive and/or promissing:      berisha / anderson / perea / keita (primavera)

positive rumours ??? :             vinicius

So for me, about half of the additions are disappointing.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 15, 2014, 03:28:49 PM
Well he wouldn't be since he wasn't here, didn't want and didn't ask for any of the summer signings. You usually see a clear out when a new manager comes in, it's just very bad timing since we spent a lot of money on these players only 6 months ago.

But when we don't know how long he's going to be here for, I don't know whether I want the genie to grant his wishes.


Fair point. It's going to be interesting. Doesn't stop Tare pulling a player he likes out the hat anyway.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Miro on January 15, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
Guarin will not join Lazio when Chelsea wants him. That rumor is totally fake in my opinion.

Chelsea don't want him anymore.Apparently they are very close to signing Nemanja Matic from Benfica.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 15, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
Inter offered some percentages of Andreolli, Botta and/or Belfodil. I just hope that this does not transforms into a Zarate deal in which we give them Hernanes for a small amount on loan with a riscatto in summer. Belfodil could help us. The other 2 are not better than what we have in my opinion.

Ruben Botta over Belfodil for me; he's got insane talent, he could become something very special. Andreolli is better than our current back-ups; in the few games he's played for Inter so far, he's been very solid. Don't be surprised if Icardi is the next to be offered; his personal life is certainly to the detriment of his profession, as Wanda Nara has allegedly been boasting to friends that he pumped her 15 times in 28 hours. No wonder his groins are keeping him out of action...

I maintain that I believe a loan move would be the best option for Felipe Anderson at this point; Keita is a better option, while the return of Mauri will further marginalise him. A low-pressure loan move would allow him the game time to really establish himself in Serie A.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 15, 2014, 04:53:48 PM
Inter offered some percentages of Andreolli, Botta and/or Belfodil. I just hope that this does not transforms into a Zarate deal in which we give them Hernanes for a small amount on loan with a riscatto in summer. Belfodil could help us. The other 2 are not better than what we have in my opinion.

Ruben Botta over Belfodil for me; he's got insane talent, he could become something very special. Andreolli is better than our current back-ups; in the few games he's played for Inter so far, he's been very solid. Don't be surprised if Icardi is the next to be offered; his personal life is certainly to the detriment of his profession, as Wanda Nara has allegedly been boasting to friends that he pumped her 15 times in 28 hours. No wonder his groins are keeping him out of action...

I maintain that I believe a loan move would be the best option for Felipe Anderson at this point; Keita is a better option, while the return of Mauri will further marginalise him. A low-pressure loan move would allow him the game time to really establish himself in Serie A.

What I meant is that for me Felipe Anderson and Ederson will anyway be in front of Botta anyway (he is also injury prone). Andreolli will probably not be accepted because of his rioma past but I agree that he is decent and has good serie a experience. Belfodil on the other hand could help us as I dont think we will be able to sign a better and more promissing striker.

About Felipe Anderson: you cannot loan an 8 mil euro player. Think about it: to whom can you loan him? nobody would train him for us. they will want a buy clause. i cant imagine him being loaned in Serie B or so. plus he is the most suitable sub for Hernanes at the moment. And he is not earning that much (compared to Ederson for example). And one more thing: he is at least 2 years in front of Keita qua development. You can see it in his control of the ball and also in his tactical thinking. Very often Keita takes the ball and does not know what to do other than run and try to dribble. A good serie A defender stops him easily (see what happened yesterday). Felipe Anderson has so many weapons: speed, dribble, shoot, pass. From the 2 I would definetly loan Keita if I would have to choose one. I was a big fan of Keita being promoted (ask Caxi :) ) but I agree now with Caxi that he is not really mature enough.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: BoDz4 on January 15, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
I would accept Belfodi and Botta for Hernanes. We won`t even notice that he`s gone.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 15, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
Don't be surprised if Icardi is the next to be offered;

You were right, according to the media Inter has just offered a co-ownership of Icardi and Andreolli, but Lazio rejected. Lotito wants only money.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 15, 2014, 08:02:37 PM
What's the story with Andreolli, how come he didn't play more matches for Inter?

If Andreolli is good enough for our starting 11 and Reja can take care of Icardi, it may be a good deal for us actually.

On the other hand, I wasn't THAT impressed with Icardi in Doria. He scored a lot of goals in a few matches and that is it. He didn't give me the impression of being a consistent goal scorer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 15, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
Guarin will not join Lazio when Chelsea wants him. That rumor is totally fake in my opinion.

Chelsea don't want him anymore.Apparently they are very close to signing Nemanja Matic from Benfica.

Matic arrived in London last night/this morning, just needs his medical before the deal's done. As for Guarin, my impression was Chelsea had some interest but it didn't go anywhere so Inter (or his agent) tried to get Spurs and Man Utd interested without success.


On that Milan offer, was it 50% of Christante's rights or full ownership? If it was the latter plus 10 or 12 million I'd have accepted. He's easily the best young talent Milan have (well, apart from De Sciglio) and from the way their fans go on about him I'd imagine he'll be at least as useful as Hernanes...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 15, 2014, 08:34:36 PM
Bryan Cristante is a very promising player, as you said is regarded as a potential superstar by those who've seen a lot of him. €12m + half of the boy would be a good deal for us.

Icardi is dangerous in the box, very Pazzini-esque in the sense that he offers little else outside the area. The fact that both Barcelona and now seemingly Inter have concluded that his talent is eclipsed by his negative attitude should set alarm bells ringing. Couple that with the fact Maxi Lopez is likely to kneecap him at some point for taking his woman, and I I'm against the move.

Andreolli is a strange case; he outgrew Chievo, but having a name like Marco always counts against you at modern day Inter, so he's found a fair crack at the first team hard to come by. He'd be good as a defensive option here. Nobody would have predicted the success of Biava or Siviglia after their low-key arrivals at Lazio, so you never know. His Roma past is completely irrelevant
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 15, 2014, 11:35:11 PM
Inter offered some percentages of Andreolli, Botta and/or Belfodil. I just hope that this does not transforms into a Zarate deal in which we give them Hernanes for a small amount on loan with a riscatto in summer. Belfodil could help us. The other 2 are not better than what we have in my opinion.

Ruben Botta over Belfodil for me; he's got insane talent, he could become something very special. Andreolli is better than our current back-ups; in the few games he's played for Inter so far, he's been very solid. Don't be surprised if Icardi is the next to be offered; his personal life is certainly to the detriment of his profession, as Wanda Nara has allegedly been boasting to friends that he pumped her 15 times in 28 hours. No wonder his groins are keeping him out of action...

I maintain that I believe a loan move would be the best option for Felipe Anderson at this point; Keita is a better option, while the return of Mauri will further marginalise him. A low-pressure loan move would allow him the game time to really establish himself in Serie A.

What I meant is that for me Felipe Anderson and Ederson will anyway be in front of Botta anyway (he is also injury prone). Andreolli will probably not be accepted because of his rioma past but I agree that he is decent and has good serie a experience. Belfodil on the other hand could help us as I dont think we will be able to sign a better and more promissing striker.

About Felipe Anderson: you cannot loan an 8 mil euro player. Think about it: to whom can you loan him? nobody would train him for us. they will want a buy clause. i cant imagine him being loaned in Serie B or so. plus he is the most suitable sub for Hernanes at the moment. And he is not earning that much (compared to Ederson for example). And one more thing: he is at least 2 years in front of Keita qua development. You can see it in his control of the ball and also in his tactical thinking. Very often Keita takes the ball and does not know what to do other than run and try to dribble. A good serie A defender stops him easily (see what happened yesterday). Felipe Anderson has so many weapons: speed, dribble, shoot, pass. From the 2 I would definetly loan Keita if I would have to choose one. I was a big fan of Keita being promoted (ask Caxi :) ) but I agree now with Caxi that he is not really mature enough.

Simple, any team struggling at the bottom of the table in Serie A in desperate need of some scoring flare.

Saying you cannot loan him out because he costs 8 million euros is illogical.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 15, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
As for Hernanes, I'd take the Milan offer and run. Cristante is incredible and we'll make enough money to buy a good replacement.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: igor_istria on January 16, 2014, 12:20:47 AM
Watched Nantes vs Nice game tonight. Djordjevic looks very good. Hope we sing him....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 16, 2014, 12:21:38 AM
Wait a minute, wasn't it Constant who were offered with cash for Profeta?

Why all this sudden talk of Cristante? Surely Milan won't give him up that easy.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 16, 2014, 12:24:06 AM
Watched Nantes vs Nice game tonight. Djordjevic looks very good. Hope we sing him....

Well, latest rumour is that we locked the deal with Djordjevic tonight and he'll arrive in the summer. We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Terzino on January 16, 2014, 12:30:58 AM
Watched Nantes vs Nice game tonight. Djordjevic looks very good. Hope we sing him....

Well, latest rumour is that we locked the deal with Djordjevic tonight and he'll arrive in the summer. We'll just have to wait and see.

Djordjevic could sign a contract for the summer now. I'm not giving these done deal rumors the benifit of the doubt anymore. Until we announce it, its another bored journalist having a slow day.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 16, 2014, 12:34:12 AM
Watched Nantes vs Nice game tonight. Djordjevic looks very good. Hope we sing him....

Well, latest rumour is that we locked the deal with Djordjevic tonight and he'll arrive in the summer. We'll just have to wait and see.

Djordjevic could sign a contract for the summer now. I'm not giving these done deal rumors the benifit of the doubt anymore. Until we announce it, its another bored journalist having a slow day.

That's why 'we'll just have to wait and see' mate  :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Terzino on January 16, 2014, 12:40:18 AM
Oh I know, its just frustrating reading about how we always have these deals that are sopposedly ready to be signed the next day, everyday for a month or two. If it ever ends up being signed at all.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 16, 2014, 01:57:43 AM
Matri is off the table, as he has signed a loan deal with Fiorentina.

As for the proposed Hernanes sale, I would take the Botta/Andreolli deal in a heartbeat. Even Icardi or Belfodil would be alright.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 16, 2014, 02:11:39 AM
Botta is non-EU. Icardi is an idiot. Half of Cristante means as soon as he develops into a player we can actually use he'll be on the Frecciarossa straight back to Milan.

We've already got Felipe Anderson and Perea, no need for more young gambles. Not until the summer anyway.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Weninho on January 16, 2014, 02:48:54 AM
Icardi is an idiot.

 :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 16, 2014, 04:37:23 AM
Watched Nantes vs Nice game tonight. Djordjevic looks very good. Hope we sing him....


Well, latest rumour is that we locked the deal with Djordjevic tonight and he'll arrive in the summer. We'll just have to wait and see.


Djordjevic could sign a contract for the summer now. I'm not giving these done deal rumors the benifit of the doubt anymore. Until we announce it, its another bored journalist having a slow day.


That's why 'we'll just have to wait and see' mate  :beer:


Is it really official? that we have sealed his signature?
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/djordjevic-on-his-way-to-lazio/ (http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/djordjevic-on-his-way-to-lazio/)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 16, 2014, 05:09:05 AM
Articles everywhere saying Hernanes to Inter.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 16, 2014, 09:27:35 AM
djordjevic is coming in the summer, not now as i read

hernanes to inter or milan is the ongoing rumor, but i doubt milan can get 18 mil euros right now
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 09:55:02 AM
Floccari is very close to Bologna. Apparently we will get 1 mil for him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 09:56:26 AM
It might very well be that Icardi is an idiot, but he is a great promise in my opinion. He had bad luck so far this season, but he is the type of player that can do well and score a lot anywhere he will play. I would sign him in a second if offered together with some good cash for Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 16, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
1 mln for a player who is 32 and his contract expires in a couple of months is a great deal. I'll miss Floccari but he needs more playing time and I'm pretty sure that he can refind his good form in a smaller club like Bologna.

I'm not sure if Lazio need to get another player in Hernanes' spot if he gets sold. Reja has Anderson and Ederson who can both do that and maybe if they get more playing time they will start showing much better things.

About Milan's offer... half of Cristante? No thanks. 100% or only cash. No need to develop a youngster for Milan.

Botta? No thanks. Lazio has a young and talented Felipe Anderson. Why should the team get another one who doesn't have a lot of Serie A experience?

Icardi? A huge NO to that guy! He blew everything. He made some good games with Sampdoria and after he went to Inter he decided that he is a superstar and starting acting like Hugh Hefner. Lazio doesn't need such player who can ruin the atmosphere in the locker room.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 16, 2014, 10:10:38 AM
  Floccari is near Bologna,
 Hernanes ?Spurs-Arsenal-Inter-Milan follows him)?,cash-the only way.
 Djordjevic came in the summer,
 Quag-Cannavaro ? - both of them will be perfect mercato,one of them very good.
 But this is January.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 11:38:40 AM
Not sure why Icardi is so undervalued here. Would be a fantastic deal to get him and cash for Hernanes if you ask me. The boy is only 20 and proved that he can score when fit. Anyhow, I doubt that it will happen as Inter wants to get rid of Belfodil, not Icardi. Thats the risk when signing 2 very young strikers for a lot of money while having also an experienced one in the squad (Palacio). The experienced one get priority and there will be less time for the young guns. Same problem we have with Perea and Keita, except that we did not pay 10 mil euro for either of them. Sort of similar ro the Felipe Anderson problem though.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 16, 2014, 11:46:54 AM
 Like it or not but we need player like Zarate in our team.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
Apparently now Inter have offered Rannocchia + cash for Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 16, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
Apparently now Inter have offered Rannocchia + cash for Hernanes.

 :what:

Take it and run!!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 16, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
Not sure why Icardi is so undervalued here. Would be a fantastic deal to get him and cash for Hernanes if you ask me. The boy is only 20 and proved that he can score when fit. Anyhow, I doubt that it will happen as Inter wants to get rid of Belfodil, not Icardi. Thats the risk when signing 2 very young strikers for a lot of money while having also an experienced one in the squad (Palacio). The experienced one get priority and there will be less time for the young guns. Same problem we have with Perea and Keita, except that we did not pay 10 mil euro for either of them. Sort of similar ro the Felipe Anderson problem though.

Because Icardi is the kind of guy who could demolish a dressing room. You want a player like that in the current climate? He could be a star, I agree, but he's got himself onto the wrong path.

At least at Inter there are the Javier Zanettis and co. to keep him in some kind of place.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 16, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
You also need to work on your reading before you spread completely incorrect rumours here.

Inter could sell Ranocchia to Galatasaray or Dortmund in order to find the cash to buy Hernanes.

They aren't offering cash plus Ranocchia FFS.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
You also need to work on your reading before you spread completely incorrect rumours here.

Inter could sell Ranocchia to Galatasaray or Dortmund in order to find the cash to buy Hernanes.

They aren't offering cash plus Ranocchia FFS.

I think my reading is pretty ok "Una soluzione, questa, che finora ha frenato l'interesse dell'Inter per il "Profeta", visto che nell'operazione si stava valutando la possibilità di utilizzare come contropartite sia il cartellino di Andrea Ranocchia che la metà di quello di Ishak Belfodil. " (TMW)
The news can be crap, but they do say that they offered either Ranocchia or 50% of Belfodil. Yes, it is strange that Ranocchia will be valued less than Belfodil by Inter, but stranger things happen...:)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 16, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
TMW is a shocking source anyway.

There's no mention of Ranocchia in the newspapers from what I can tell. Summarised it on the website, but it seems clear they are trying to finance the deal by selling Guarin.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 01:31:44 PM
TMW is a shocking source anyway.

There's no mention of Ranocchia in the newspapers from what I can tell. Summarised it on the website, but it seems clear they are trying to finance the deal by selling Guarin.

I agree that it might be bs. But that's what's written there.

However I do not understand Lotito who seems not keen into accepting another player but would settle for a lower cash deal (15 mil now, but if we sell for cash only we might go as low as 12-13).
I mean certainly the rumored 7-8 mil + half of Belfodil might prove more than the 12-13 mil, no?
For me it is a clear sign that Lotare wants to buy ONLY Quag and that nobody else will come if he fails. Juve has no use of Hernanes and they ask 6-7 mil for Quag, money that Lotito hopes to get from the Hernanes deal. Otherwise Belfodil or Icardi + cash for Hernanes would have been a good offer. Money + Ranocchia would have been a golden offer solving out defensive problems. 
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 16, 2014, 02:00:27 PM
Apparently now Inter have offered Rannocchia + cash for Hernanes.

That wouldn't be a bad deal.

We could also pressure them and ask for Icardi and Guarin in a straight swap, but I doubt they would say yes to that
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 16, 2014, 02:14:59 PM
Lotito is not interested in Icardi is suppose?  He really wants Quag (Reja also), then there would be Quag, Klose, Perea and Djordjevic coming in this summer, Flocc will probably be sold this month?
When Klose then leaves this summer, there still would be 3 first team strikers (Quag, Djordjevic, Perea), no need for Icardi then?  Also, he blows his chances and is a troublemaker, he's talented yes, but no thanks. 

I mean compare him to Perea.  Both are talented and have a lot of grow-potential, but Perea is humble, wants to learn constantly, is a worker, is sober thinking and is without pretention whatsoever!
Icardi on the other hand is a just a talented windbag, i don't wont him near Perea ....

Don't think Lotito wants Guarin as well, but Reja might?
Anyway, personally i think the only smart way to go would be accepting Rannochia + cash for Hernanes, or just accepting cash (17-20 mill), at least?

Not getting a good CB in return or at least 17mill would be bad business, than i would rather have him stay ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 02:28:07 PM
Nobody will pay us 17 mil at this point. The news is out that Hernanes will not extend so clearly his price drops. In Italy, if Quag is valued at 6 mil, Matri was signed on loan + buyout of reported 8 mil, Honda came for free, etc it is clear that there are no money. I think the top we could get is money + a player OR a loan with buyout (and we all know how that goes). Ideal situation would have been to send hernanes to Juve for money + Quag, but that wont happen so now we are in sort of a deadlock. I would not be surprised if on the last day of mercato Hernanes would move to Inter for 12-13 mil. Our only hope is an external club, but I doubt PSG or Arsenal would be interested, while Atletico dont want to spend 17 mil apparently.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Adamo on January 16, 2014, 02:47:45 PM
Djordjevic sounds like a pretty good pickup for next season.  Apparently he is the captain of Nantes.

If we could somehow get Ranocchia for Hernanes that would be fantastic. We clearly need a solid center back.

Am I being unrealistic to hope for Quag, Cannavaro and Ranocchia?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
Am I being unrealistic to hope for Quag, Cannavaro and Ranocchia?

certainly! I would be surprised if any of them will come! All of them? 0 chance.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 16, 2014, 03:04:36 PM
Djordjevic sounds like a pretty good pickup for next season.  Apparently he is the captain of Nantes.

If we could somehow get Ranocchia for Hernanes that would be fantastic. We clearly need a solid center back.

Am I being unrealistic to hope for Quag, Cannavaro and Ranocchia?

I think the most unrealistic transfer would be Ranocchia.  Would Inter really want Hernanes that bad?  Would Ranocchia want Lazio?

Quag is more realistic but only one sided.  Juve would sell him to us i think but they will up the price a bit.  Quag personnaly is a the big question, he would easily get a Premier League team to buy him were he would still get the big salary.

The biggest chance i think is Cannavaro, but still not easy because we would have to sell a CB first?
I mean, what team will put up a decent amount for Ciani or Nova right now?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Djordjevic sounds like a pretty good pickup for next season.  Apparently he is the captain of Nantes.

If we could somehow get Ranocchia for Hernanes that would be fantastic. We clearly need a solid center back.

Am I being unrealistic to hope for Quag, Cannavaro and Ranocchia?

I think the most unrealistic transfer would be Ranocchia.  Would Inter really want Hernanes that bad?  Would Ranocchia want Lazio?

Quag is more realistic but only one sided.  Juve would sell him to us i think but they will up the price a bit.  Quag personnaly is a the big question, he would easily get a Premier League team to buy him were he would still get the big salary.

The biggest chance i think is Cannavaro, but still not easy because we would have to sell a CB first?
I mean, what team will put up a decent amount for Ciani or Nova right now?

Quag already agreed with Lotito apprently. Juve is asking 7 mil, we offer 6 mil. The problem now is that Lotito does not seem to have 6 mil straight. We offered loan + buyout, Juve refused. things will get moving when we sell Hernanes. I think thats one of the reason Lotito wants cash and not players.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 16, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
 Quag salary at Juve ?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 16, 2014, 03:21:07 PM
With Inter I'd look beyond the names proposed so far, and look at a few of their other youngsters to co-own; Marco Benassi who is on loan at Livorno has impressed me since I saw him in the 2011-12 NextGen tournament, and then last year with his performances for Inter's first team. Hes struggled for playing time at at Livorno, but recently got his first start against Fiorentina and was arguably the best player on the pitch, against Fiorentina's impressive midfield. He could be a long-term successor to Ledesma.

As I've previously said I regard Andreolli as a decent addition to compete with Biava and Dias, but Cannavaro would be my first choice; it's a move Reja and the player himself seem keen on, and hopefully it can be finalised before the end of the mercato. Quagliarella is the best striking option available to us, given his versatility, meaning he can play both with or instead of Klose. His capacity to score goals out of nothing is a valuable asset, more so than the more one dimensional options like Pazzini or Denis. He's scored champions league goals last season and with Juve being eliminated from the competition they require the fee more than the player.

Special mention for Danilo Cataldi, who appears to be maturing well out on loan, and has been training with the Italy u21's. Ideal scenario is that he spends preseason with us then we find him another beneficial loan spell in Serie B to further develop that obvious talent.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
Quag salary at Juve ?

Google says 2.1 mil per year.

LLSN says we've already agreed on a salary:
". La Lazio è fiduciosa, convinta di strappare il sì della Juve nei prossimi giorni, anche perché Quagliarella ha dato la sua disponibilità al trasferimento e ci sarebbe già un accordo di massima per un contratto fino a giugno 2017."
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 16, 2014, 03:46:56 PM
Juventus asking 8 mill euros for Quag, they can eat a dick. He ain't worth that much, really.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 16, 2014, 04:09:06 PM
don't worry Lotito will hunt him down until the last mercato moment and he will eventually go to Genoa on loan or to another team for 4-5 mil. classic Lazio mercato scenario! we go full speed ahead for one player cause there is no other player like Quag in the world!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 16, 2014, 04:10:15 PM
 32 years,8 mil ? To much.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 16, 2014, 04:15:36 PM
Let's contextualise the Quagliarella debate.

Discounting this season, in the previous five Serie A seasons, Quagliarella has scored 46 Serie A goals, Floccari has scored 45 Serie A goals.

Yet we are preparing to let Floccari go for 800k and bring in Quagliarella for 8 million.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 16, 2014, 04:23:08 PM
Let's contextualise the Quagliarella debate.

Discounting this season, in the previous five Serie A seasons, Quagliarella has scored 46 Serie A goals, Floccari has scored 45 Serie A goals.

Yet we are preparing to let Floccari go for 800k and bring in Quagliarella for 8 million.

That's what I've been saying all along, these players are not better than what we have already.

Floccari and Klose would score more if chances were created.

Quag isn't some Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo who can create chances for himself.

Sign a player who can make killer passes and has a lot of assists..and then we should score more goals.

whether we have Quag, Floc or even Klose up there won't matter at the moment because they are not getting the service they should be getting.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 16, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
Let's contextualise the Quagliarella debate.

Discounting this season, in the previous five Serie A seasons, Quagliarella has scored 46 Serie A goals, Floccari has scored 45 Serie A goals.

Yet we are preparing to let Floccari go for 800k and bring in Quagliarella for 8 million.

Look and it this way and yes, it's crazy, but statistics cannot prove everything.
Quag and Flocc are different types.
Flocc is almost always lost as a lone striker, Quag will most likely be more dangerous in that position?
Quag can also be very explosive as attacking winger, not really Flocc's thing?
In would prefer Quag over Flocc just looking at Reja's formations, Flocc is a second striker for a 4-4-2/4-3-1-2.  Quag on the other hand can fit in almost every formation i presume ....

I like and respect Floccari i really do, but Fabio can be of more use (i hope).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 16, 2014, 04:53:25 PM
I also think that kind of money for quag is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TO MUCH!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 16, 2014, 05:04:53 PM
8 for Quags? No thanks! I rate him somewhere aroud 4-5 mln.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 16, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
Let's contextualise the Quagliarella debate.

Discounting this season, in the previous five Serie A seasons, Quagliarella has scored 46 Serie A goals, Floccari has scored 45 Serie A goals.

Yet we are preparing to let Floccari go for 800k and bring in Quagliarella for 8 million.

Look and it this way and yes, it's crazy, but statistics cannot prove everything.
Quag and Flocc are different types.
Flocc is almost always lost as a lone striker, Quag will most likely be more dangerous in that position?
Quag can also be very explosive as attacking winger, not really Flocc's thing?
In would prefer Quag over Flocc just looking at Reja's formations, Flocc is a second striker for a 4-4-2/4-3-1-2.  Quag on the other hand can fit in almost every formation i presume ....

I like and respect Floccari i really do, but Fabio can be of more use (i hope).

Over a long period of time in one competition, you can conclude that Quagliarella puts the ball in the net as often as Floccari and vice versa.

Now, are we buying a striker to create chances or to score goals? If it's to score goals, neither player is prolific. If it is to create goals, I prefer Floccari.

If it's to replace Hernanes' blockbusters, you know who to go for. Reja seems keen to stick with 4-2-3-1 and if Quagliarella coming in facilitates a switch to two upfront, I will wonder why we refused to try this with natural second strikers in Perea and Floccari.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 16, 2014, 05:43:10 PM
According to football italia, Reja spoke with Tounkara in the concept of giving him a chance soon in the first team?

My guess is he is going to get his chance in the EL, because Reja will focus mainly on the Serie A and the Coppa?

If Tounkara grabs his chance as Keita did, he could be another asset.  Otherwise next season there could only be (Quag? / Djordjevic?) / Perea as strikers.

I'm hoping Reja will present thesame option to Elez soon, because if Cannavaro or another decent CB do not arrive, things will get worse at the back?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 16, 2014, 06:44:26 PM
Every Lazio page that I'm in facebook shows that Djordjevic is official for the summer? Can anyone confirm that?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jofo on January 16, 2014, 06:47:15 PM
If we want to think about the future then we should already think about attack consisted of Keita - Perea - Tounkara. This is the future of Lazio and we must use them as much as posible.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 16, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
Rumor is Catania is interest in Floccari now, Bologna reportedly out of the deal.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Adamo on January 16, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding why you guys don't prefer Quagliarella over Floccari.  I'm not gonna argue the validity of transfermarkt.com but they have Quags listed at a value of 9M and Floccari at 2.3M-- there must be a reason for that. Also...we have a president that never wants spend a nickel so when he wants to spend 8M or 80M to improve a position I am all for it. It's not my money.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 16, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding why you guys don't prefer Quagliarella over Floccari.  I'm not gonna argue the validity of transfermarkt.com but they have Quags listed at a value of 9M and Floccari at 2.3M-- there must be a reason for that. Also...we have a president that never wants spend a nickel so when he wants to spend 8M or 80M to improve a position I am all for it. It's not my money.
If I can choose between Quag and Flocc I might choose Quag, but the thing is we're trading a striker in quick decline for another in quick decline, and they're not THAT far apart in terms of ability.
A stupid deal if it goes ahead, he could have got 30-40 Elezs with that, and I think that's a better bet than quag...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: LazioKosovo on January 16, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
I do not whether this was in Rumor thread, but I am reading that agent of Hernanes is in England and is holding talks with Man. Utd. and Spurs.
Taking into consideration the state of affairs in these two clubs, I think this is plausible and logical. Now, things could suddenly go in Lazio's favour. Both teams are rich enough to meet Lotito's price tag for Hernanes and we will not sell our player to potential competition. Taken from Goal.com.

Quote: "The agent of Lazio midfielder Hernanes, Joseph Lee, has been in England and has held talks with both Manchester United and Totttenham."

 
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Adamo on January 16, 2014, 07:55:12 PM
Actually, I agree with you 100%, Fausto, but I'm at the point where I'm sick and tired of deals coming and going. I would just be happy at this point for him to sign somebody that is an improvement.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 16, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Apparently Genoa are sniffing around Parma's Nicola Sansone. Personally I'd like us to take a gamble on a young guy like him than spend €8m and a rumoured €1.4m a year on Quagliarella, who while being an improvement on Floccari probably has another 2/3 years in him at best.

While Sansone's goals to games record isn't the best it's worth remembering he's a second striker who can also play wide on either side of a bank of 3.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 16, 2014, 08:43:47 PM
http://www.diggita.it/v.php?id=1310468 (http://www.diggita.it/v.php?id=1310468)

Translated into English

According to a report in the Corriere dello Sport, Lazio and 'out of the closet for Fabio Quagliarella, in fact the company' biancoceleste has made the offer to the company 'Juventus approximately 8 million Euros while for the player and' ready for a four-year 1 , 5 million Euros, now awaits the response of the Piedmont, also because 'in the last hour it seems that the player who wants a change of scenery.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 16, 2014, 10:25:07 PM
Let's contextualise the Quagliarella debate.

Discounting this season, in the previous five Serie A seasons, Quagliarella has scored 46 Serie A goals, Floccari has scored 45 Serie A goals.

Yet we are preparing to let Floccari go for 800k and bring in Quagliarella for 8 million.

In that time Quagliarella has had a serious knee injury that kept him out for the best part of a year, and faced competition on his return to fitness from some good players at Juventus; had he spent his last 5 years injury free at Lazio, Atalanta and Parma, I'm confident he'd have been looking at 60+ goals in that period. Factor in his sublime cameos for Italy at WC 2010, his Champions League goals last season and his superb form pre-injury im his first few months at Juventus, and the difference in quality and consequently value between him and Floccari is obvious.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 16, 2014, 10:35:45 PM
In that time Quagliarella has had a serious knee injury that kept him out for the best part of a year, and faced competition on his return to fitness from some good players at Juventus; had he spent his last 5 years injury free at Lazio, Atalanta and Parma, I'm confident he'd have been looking at 60+ goals in that period. Factor in his sublime cameos for Italy at WC 2010, his Champions League goals last season and his superb form pre-injury im his first few months at Juventus, and the difference in quality and consequently value between him and Floccari is obvious.

So what? Had Floccari had five injury free years at Lazio, I am confident he would also be looking at 60+ goals.

Please remind me of Quagliarella's sublime cameos in World Cup 2010? I remember a rather cheeky goal, but forgive me for thinking Italy were not in the tournament long enough for Quags to have enough cameos for us to judge him on.

Had Italy brought Floccari to the tournament on the basis of his superb season in our shirt, perhaps they'd have gone a bit further, eh?

If Laziali were less obsessed about bigging up opposition players and more focused on getting behind the players we have at our disposal, we would be a much better football team.

You've done little to convince me that the difference between Quagliarella and Floccari has been obvious over the last five years.

I'm having a hard time understanding why you guys don't prefer Quagliarella over Floccari.  I'm not gonna argue the validity of transfermarkt.com but they have Quags listed at a value of 9M and Floccari at 2.3M-- there must be a reason for that.

Probably the same reason why they value Candreva higher than Callejon, but nobody knows it. Quagliarella is obviously worth more than Floccari, but not by that much.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 16, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
In that time Quagliarella has had a serious knee injury that kept him out for the best part of a year, and faced competition on his return to fitness from some good players at Juventus; had he spent his last 5 years injury free at Lazio, Atalanta and Parma, I'm confident he'd have been looking at 60+ goals in that period. Factor in his sublime cameos for Italy at WC 2010, his Champions League goals last season and his superb form pre-injury im his first few months at Juventus, and the difference in quality and consequently value between him and Floccari is obvious.

So what? Had Floccari had five injury free years at Lazio, I am confident he would also be looking at 60+ goals.

Come on Caxi, there's a massive difference between Quagliarella's torn ACL and the knocks and injuries Floccari picked up. Not only was he on the shelf for ages it took him well over half a season to fully recover on the pitch.

As it happens I actually agree with you, I wouldn't say there's a huge difference in quality between the two and what they can bring to the side week in week out, but the main difference for me is Quags has shown he can step up and cut it at CL level. Had that been Floccari playing for Juve instead I daresay we'd have seen one of his hardworking but goalless performances.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 16, 2014, 11:06:19 PM
32 years,8 mil ? To much.

Luckily he isn't 31 until 31st of January, and the price is likely to settle at around €6.5m in my opinion.

Sansone to Genoa seems a strange one; he's another talented youngster who while not regarded as highly as Berardi, is still one of Italy's best prospects. At least there's always a good chance we can get hold of him in the future if he goes there. I understand what you're saying, but he's in a similar bracket to Perea, a prospect; we need somebody who can do the business now, and in the next two years Quagliarella will be more useful.

I'm a big fan of Floccari Caxi, but he lacks the capacity to do something out of nothing that has made Quagliarella one of my favourite players since his Samp days. The plural 'cameos' was a result of predictive text, I intended to write 'cameo' in reference to his goal and goal that wasn't given in the decisive game against Slovakia, which provoked most observers to ask why he wasn't a starter in the previous group games.

Floccari did have a good season that year, but so did Marco Borriello, who's 14 goals weren't enough to win a place in the squad. Lippi obviously felt that Quagliarella's class and capacity to have an impact at the top level transcended club form, but to be fair he himself netted similar figures for Napoli that season.

Ironically, the comment about Laziali focusing on their own players rather than 'bigging up' others could soon be a reference to your own post, as all indications are that Floccari will be on the move, with Quagliarella brought in as his replacement.  :offlag:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 16, 2014, 11:10:56 PM
Quag's agent officialy confirmed that the rumours are nonsense (football italia).
He says Fabio does not want to leave Juve and certainly does not want to join Lazio !!!
Some people will say, this is just agent bullshit once again, but this seems pretty clear to me?

End of speculation .......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: gibson_lp2 on January 16, 2014, 11:22:08 PM
I thought Floccari was a backup for Klose... Wouldnt Quags play as one of the 3 behind the striker? I can't see him playing as a lone striker?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 16, 2014, 11:27:16 PM
Quag's agent officialy confirmed that the rumours are nonsense (football italia).
He says Fabio does not want to leave Juve and certainly does not want to join Lazio !!!
Some people will say, this is just agent bullshit once again, but this seems pretty clear to me?

End of speculation .......

Yeah there's no way the agent would be that specific, unless it is true.

so forget about Quag...luckily we won't get him. would be a waste of money...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 16, 2014, 11:53:56 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding why you guys don't prefer Quagliarella over Floccari.  I'm not gonna argue the validity of transfermarkt.com but they have Quags listed at a value of 9M and Floccari at 2.3M-- there must be a reason for that. Also...we have a president that never wants spend a nickel so when he wants to spend 8M or 80M to improve a position I am all for it. It's not my money.

Floocaris contract ends in the summer, Quags in 2015 hence the big difference in value.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 17, 2014, 12:51:52 AM
You need read a little deeper into these statements. His agent has said there is no intention from Juventus to sell Quags and that he isn't looking to leave but then immediately followed it with 'If he was to leave Juventus, teams would have to pay 8m'. So in my opinion these comments change nothing. Every player has a number on his head that the club cannot refuse.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on January 17, 2014, 01:02:34 AM
If it's up to me, I would better give chance to youngsters rather than signing another old players to this team. Keep the money to sign new strikers for summer mercato because when the new coach comes n he doesnt like quagliarela, at the end, we only have another player n money to waste.

Another rumour that I read: just bullshit like we are also interested with Banega. :razz:
I also read one of our youngsters, Crescenzi who played for siena in the first half of this season has moved to Pisa.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 09:21:42 AM
Quag is 31, not 32 (not yet, end of January will become 31). Overall, he has 260 games and 75 in Serie A, 11 games and 6 goals in CL and 20 caps for Italy and 6 goals. He has a contract with Juve until 2015.

Now let's look at Floc. He will be 33 this year (in November). So 1.5 years older than Quag. 233 games in Serie A and 58 goals. 30 games and 9 goals in EL. 0 caps for Italy. Contract expiring in summer.

Let's put it objectively: Floc is one class behind Quag. Quag has more experience in big games (CL and NT level), he has played in bigger teams and always scored enough. Floc can score too and is overall a decent striker. I like him but I think a move to a lower team is the best for him at this stage in his career. He tried and never really managed to become decisive here. That's the truth - he is a player we can easily replace.
Now consider that he has 1.5 seasons less in front of him than Quag. I would say that a 2-3 mil euro difference between them is fair. I rate Quag at 6-7 mil (not the 8 mil Juve rates him). So Floc would be worth 4-5 mil euro. But now the catch: Floc is free in summer and can sign with any team. Suddenly we drop to at most half that. So I would say that Floc's value at the moment should be around 2 mil euro (which is what Lotito tries to get but will probably not).

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on January 17, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
Hey, "new player" has arrived in formello to join the training with the first team. Guess what, his name is Giuseppe Sculli. :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 09:47:19 AM
Hey, "new player" has arrived in formello to join the training with the first team. Guess what, his name is Giuseppe Sculli. :razz:

Yup, Scullinwa was always one of Reja's favorites. I remember how sad he was when Scullinwa was loaned to Genoa!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 17, 2014, 10:03:24 AM
Generally i know what Caxi mean, but I'm here more on drazvan's side.
Quagliarella had more difficult injury problems and he is playing at a club where the other strikers are better than the ones at Lazio. So it is more difficult to get in the starting eleven at Juve than at Lazio.

I don't think that there is a big/huge quality jump between Flocc and Quagliarella, but there is one ... even not a big one.

Quagliarella was often a first choice at Juve, played CL football.
I really like Flocc - alone because that he always gave his best for Lazio - even if he was loaned out, came back and was fighting again. So he also didn't have the best times.
But i need to be honest too - Flocc is a huge player for teams like Parma or Atalanta, but if we want to bring Lazio back to the region of international places, we need a better striker.
If Quagliarella is the one, i don't know - but i rate him higher than Flocc.

This has nothing to do with believing in him or not. I support him since he arrived and i always said when Klose was injured, that we don't need another striker, because we already have Flocc who can play instead of Miro.

But the time has come, where we need changes. We need them!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 17, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
Generally i know what Caxi mean, but I'm here more on drazvan's side.
Quagliarella had more difficult injury problems and he is playing at a club where the other strikers are better than the ones at Lazio. So it is more difficult to get in the starting eleven at Juve than at Lazio.

I don't think that there is a big/huge quality jump between Flocc and Quagliarella, but there is one ... even not a big one.

Quagliarella was often a first choice at Juve, played CL football.
I really like Flocc - alone because that he always gave his best for Lazio - even if he was loaned out, came back and was fighting again. So he also didn't have the best times.
But i need to be honest too - Flocc is a huge player for teams like Parma or Atalanta, but if we want to bring Lazio back to the region of international places, we need a better striker.
If Quagliarella is the one, i don't know - but i rate him higher than Flocc.

This has nothing to do with believing in him or not. I support him since he arrived and i always said when Klose was injured, that we don't need another striker, because we already have Flocc who can play instead of Miro.

But the time has come, where we need changes. We need them!
I guess not many would disagree with you about Quag, but 8M for a 31 y.o. player, and of all a striker who usually declines the quickest! We're a poor club with a stingy president. If we've went ahead with such a deal I can be confident lotito won't even think about signing free transfers.
A 31 y.o. striker, and not world-class in his own, shouldn't worth more than 5m, the effect would be marginal to our team, certainly not worth 7-8m we might need to pay for him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
Surely it's easier to score goals for Juventus than Lazio? Wasn't that the logic for people who were death against Matri coming here?

Quagliarella, Floccari and Perea have all played a comparable number of minutes this season and have all scored 4 goals. Quagliarella plays for the better team and the team that scores the most goals, so you would expect that if he was a better player given the most opportunities that he would score more? Or at least assist more? (for the record, Quags has 0 assists this season, Floccari has 1, Perea has 4).

Sure, Quags is probably a better player historically, but the evidence both short-term and long-term suggests he would be no more useful for us than the options we currently have. If people are leaning towards to Quagliarella, it's either because they are more attached to Juventus players or because they see something in him that sways them, maybe the fact that he's been an 18 million euro flop and a 15 million euro flop at Napoli and Juventus respectively? Maybe the fact he can only score spectacular goals? Maybe the fact he has worn the Azzurri jersey.

About the ACL injury... it didn't keep him out for that long, and anyway, isn't it another reason to pass up on Quagliarella?

Laziali nowadays have an obsession with breaking the tenth commandment.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
Just a note: I did not say that Quag is worth 8 mil, I think 6-7 is his value at the moment and I would not pay more than 6 for him. Quag was not a flop at Napoli or Juve. He did what he was ask to do. He did have injury problems, but he has managed to do good enough. In my opinion if he will come here he will try to score as much as possible to catch the italian NT for the World Cup. It will be a tough competition with Matri, Pazza and others trying the same.

The real question is: is he the real addition we need? In my opinion yes, but more from summer. He is more a Klose replacement while at the moment we need more of a Djordjevic type of player (position in which we do have Perea at the moment). I doubt that Quag will come to sit on the bench waiting for Klose to get injured meaning that we will have to modify our system to adapt to him. But how? I dont really see a solution and we should avoid Quag turning into a second Cisse.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 10:27:41 AM
Surely it's easier to score goals for Juventus than Lazio? Wasn't that the logic for people who were death against Matri coming here?

Quagliarella, Floccari and Perea have all played a comparable number of minutes this season and have all scored 4 goals. Quagliarella plays for the better team and the team that scores the most goals, so you would expect that if he was a better player given the most opportunities that he would score more? Or at least assist more? (for the record, Quags has 0 assists this season, Floccari has 1, Perea has 4).

Sure, Quags is probably a better player historically, but the evidence both short-term and long-term suggests he would be no more useful for us than the options we currently have. If people are leaning towards to Quagliarella, it's either because they are more attached to Juventus players or because they see something in him that sways them, maybe the fact that he's been an 18 million euro flop and a 15 million euro flop at Napoli and Juventus respectively? Maybe the fact he can only score spectacular goals? Maybe the fact he has worn the Azzurri jersey.

About the ACL injury... it didn't keep him out for that long, and anyway, isn't it another reason to pass up on Quagliarella?

Laziali nowadays have an obsession with breaking the tenth commandment.

not sure where you take ur data, man. Quag played half the time Perea played (500 min vs 900 min), scored 4 goals and gave 2 assists.

Quag  566 min 4 goals 2 assists (2 of the goals in CL!)
Perea 943 min 4 goals 3 assists
Floc    920 min 4 goals 1 assist
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 17, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
The comparison Caxi wrote here yesterday opened my eyes a bit. I've never thought that Q and Floccari had so similar stats from the last five years. And I'm quite sure we all agree that it would be stupid to pay something like 5-7 (=Q's price minus Flocc's sale) millions just to get a player who is 1,5 years younger with similar stats. I mean we could spend that money better. But I think Quagliarella is little better than Floccari so we are going for that, I'm not against it. It's not only that Q scores spectacular goals but I think Q tends to shoot more and acts more like a center forward whereas Floccari acts like second attacker.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 17, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
@fausto: totally agree with you. I didn't wrote anything about the prize. I only said who i like more as a striker.
Naturally i would also not spend 7-8 mill. for Quagliarella, but 4-5 mill. would be ok.

@Caxi:
Is it easier to get into the starting eleven for Juve than for Lazio? ... no. Scoring goals is another case - i'm talking about the played minutes.
Serie A
Flocc played this season 500 minutes and scored 0 and assist 1
Quag played 320 minutes and scored 1
EL/CL
Flocc played 380 minutes and scored 4
Quag played 153 minutes and scored 2 and 1 assist

We are talking general not about an high level, but look at the minutes and you will see why i see Quag in front. Remember...not for 7-8 mill....


generally ... i would say that we need NOT a striker. I only posted my opinion about the rumour. If i would be able to choose between Quagliarella and Flocc, i would choose Quagliarella...but only for the right price.

Assists doesn't interest me, because others should do that....others which we would need more than a striker!!!!
Goals are important, and when Klose leaves us in the summer, we need a new striker. I'm not that impressed by a possible Djordjevic, so i would welcome Quagliarella.

We are a club without big money, and we have Lotito as president. Do you think that we would get a better striker than Quagliarella? I don't think so.
And if we have the possibility now to get him, i would bring him in as cheap as possible.

I think we all agree when we say that we need changes. But we also have to think about ... what would we get?

I also want to add ... Quagliarella would only make sense, if we switch into a 2 striker formation!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 10:41:50 AM
Jesus, we cannot even agree that a player who scored for Napoli and Juve and played in CL and the italian NT is better than a Lazio sub who managed to get some goals for us, Genoa, Atalanta or Parma. Easier to score for Juve? He managed the same number of goals facing competition from Tevez and Llorente while Floc was losing the competition with Perea.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 10:44:28 AM
not sure where you take ur data, man. Quag played half the time Perea played (500 min vs 900 min), scored 4 goals and gave 2 assists.

Quag  566 min 4 goals 2 assists (2 of the goals in CL!)
Perea 943 min 4 goals 3 assists
Floc    920 min 4 goals 1 assist

To be honest, I didn't calculate the minutes and looked at how many games they started and were subbed on for, but since that wasn't the most accurate way of doing things, I decided to calculate Quagliarella's minutes and I'm already on 669 mins before I go and figure out how many minutes in stoppage time he has played. I probably won't bother, but it's fair to say that if you're going to provide 'accurate' data, then it should be accurate...

The comparison Caxi wrote here yesterday opened my eyes a bit. I've never thought that Q and Floccari had so similar stats from the last five years. And I'm quite sure we all agree that it would be stupid to pay something like 5-7 (=Q's price minus Flocc's sale) millions just to get a player who is 1,5 years younger with similar stats. I mean we could spend that money better. But I think Quagliarella is little better than Floccari so we are going for that, I'm not against it. It's not only that Q scores spectacular goals but I think Q tends to shoot more and acts more like a center forward whereas Floccari acts like second attacker.


The age thing is also pretty misleading - there's 14 months in it, not 2 years or 1-and-a-half as is claimed.

The other thing I would factor into the debate is the fact that I'm pretty sure Floccari would sign a new contract tomorrow if there were no interested parties, and that that contract would not influence Transfermarkt's valuation of him.

I'm actually not totally against Quagliarella - I've said before that he reminds me of Di Natale and that he may hit serious goalscoring form in his latter years (a bit like Rossi did this season). The issue for me is the price tag in relation to his age, his injury record and what he actually offers on the pitch.

There is no way he is worth 8 million euro to us or even close.

We are a club without big money, and we have Lotito as president. Do you think that we would get a better striker than Quagliarella? I don't think so.

For the price tag, of course we can get a better striker with Lotito. We've had better strikers in the past (uhm, Klose?) and I'm sure we can find someone better for that price or even someone as good for much less (Perea, maybe?).


Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 17, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
There is no way that Lotito will buy Quagliarella for 8 mill. That should be said too!

I totally agree when someone says that Quagliarella should net get brought for that price, but as i posted the minutes they played - i can't agree when people say that Quagliarella is not better than Floccari.

As drazvan said - Quag can compete with the players at Juve, Flocc has his problems with competing with Perea.
This doesn't say that Quag would come to Lazio and hit the goal like hell ... NO! But we would have a Serie A proven striker which is in an age where he can play the next 4 seasons too.

Yes, Klose was cheaper and is a better striker, but we will not get a Klose anymore.
In the end Quagliarella would be around 6 mill. and for that ... i don't see a Serie A proven striker who would say yes to our club in the moment.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 11:01:48 AM
not sure where you take ur data, man. Quag played half the time Perea played (500 min vs 900 min), scored 4 goals and gave 2 assists.

Quag  566 min 4 goals 2 assists (2 of the goals in CL!)
Perea 943 min 4 goals 3 assists
Floc    920 min 4 goals 1 assist


To be honest, I didn't calculate the minutes and looked at how many games they started and were subbed on for, but since that wasn't the most accurate way of doing things, I decided to calculate Quagliarella's minutes and I'm already on 669 mins before I go and figure out how many minutes in stoppage time he has played. I probably won't bother, but it's fair to say that if you're going to provide 'accurate' data, then it should be accurate...



Are you saying that you are better at calculating it than transfermarkt? FFS, they have a list with all games: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler_22328_2013.html (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler_22328_2013.html)

We all agree that Quag is not worth 8 mil and we all agree that Lotito will not pay that. In my opinion Quag can go for 5-6 mil and we cannot find a better striker that would accept coming to us for that. The only reason for Quag joining us would be that he could get a chance to catch Prandelli's team.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 17, 2014, 11:05:14 AM
For €8 mil we could land Matavz for example. Just turned 25, would suit our style of play alot better and can turn out to be a great forward.

Quag would be most welcome by me but the price should be around €5 mil. But since this is the winter merato prices are always higher so if they can close a deal at €6 mil it's ok.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 11:09:28 AM
Are you saying that you are better at calculating it than transfermarkt? FFS, they have a list with all games: [url]http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler_22328_2013.html[/url] ([url]http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler_22328_2013.html[/url])


I used a different source and got different numbers.

When we created the LazioLand.com website, it was our intention to provide the most comprehensive stats on Lazio and the most detailed information on our players that you could find on the internet. We had to give up on that when we realised that Transfermarkt, ESPN etc. were so inaccurate that we couldn't rely on any of them for the most basic information.

I mean, you can see that Transfermarkt is not exactly reliable when they claim every single Juventus game lasted exactly 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 11:17:11 AM
Are you saying that you are better at calculating it than transfermarkt? FFS, they have a list with all games: [url]http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler_22328_2013.html[/url] ([url]http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler_22328_2013.html[/url])


I used a different source and got different numbers.

When we created the LazioLand.com website, it was our intention to provide the most comprehensive stats on Lazio and the most detailed information on our players that you could find on the internet. We had to give up on that when we realised that Transfermarkt, ESPN etc. were so inaccurate that we couldn't rely on any of them for the most basic information.

I mean, you can see that Transfermarkt is not exactly reliable when they claim every single Juventus game lasted exactly 90 minutes.


Hehe ok ok. I understand your point. For me it is just this: Quag is a proven player with a good CV. He would bring good experience in CL and NT and would be motivated to prove to Prandelli. I dont think that he is old, 30-31 is a good age and he would have 3-4 seasons ahead. 8 mil for him is absurd. 5-6? I would consider it. However, would he fit in our team? not easily. We would have to make some tactical changes to place Klose and Quag together and to be honest I see more like Klose or Quag and Perea than Klose and Quag.

I like Matavz and I know him good enough to say that he is a promissing striker. But if people dont like Icardi, they will hate Matavz. He thinks of himself as the new Ronaldo and stated many times that he wants to play for a big team in Premier League. He has quite some conflicts with PSV because he constantly wants to leave. PSV just bought Bryan Ruiz so they are preparing his departure (they also have Toivonen with similar problems and the new talent Locadia). I think that Matavz would be allowed to leave for anything above 5 mil, the question is: Is Lazio good enough for him?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 17, 2014, 01:10:15 PM
Overal, Quaq is a better football player then Floccari, no doubt about it. But 8 milion is too much for a guy warming a bench this season. If there is one player I would take from Juve, it would be Giovinco on loan. I have a soft spot for him as a football player and I belive he would suit this Lazio quite good. To pitty we don't have any player Juventus are intrested in so we could do some player exchange.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 01:21:41 PM
An interesting rumour going around is that Felipe Anderson has been offered on loan to Torino for 6 months. Maybe throws some light on the debate as to whether it was logical to loan out an 8 million euro player.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 17, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
An interesting rumour going around is that Felipe Anderson has been offered on loan to Torino for 6 months. Maybe throws some light on the debate as to whether it was logical to loan out an 8 million euro player.

It isn't logical but it has nothing to do with his price.

I don't see that much difference between this and when we loaned Cavanda out (which the club was against if I recall). Torino and Bari had no option to even buy half of him so they only used him when they were absolutely forced to.

Toro aren't in struggletown and they're only playing on one front. What incentive will they have to play him any more regularly than we do? Plus, he's said himself that he needs to build confidence.

A young kid in a new country, new team and new league would always need to adapt, even more so when the team he joins is far from settled. IMO he'd gain the most benefit just sticking around at Lazio and taking whatever chances he gets.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 17, 2014, 01:36:22 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea to loan him in order to play more but only if Reja thinks of Anderson as a third option after Hernanes and Ederson.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 17, 2014, 01:50:55 PM
An interesting rumour going around is that Felipe Anderson has been offered on loan to Torino for 6 months. Maybe throws some light on the debate as to whether it was logical to loan out an 8 million euro player.

With or without a buy clause?

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 01:58:14 PM
An interesting rumour going around is that Felipe Anderson has been offered on loan to Torino for 6 months. Maybe throws some light on the debate as to whether it was logical to loan out an 8 million euro player.

With or without a buy clause?

Without, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
I think it will depend on Hernanes.
If he stays, then I can imagine that Reja has to choose one of Felipe Anderson and Ederson. Personally, I would keep Felipe Anderson and from the 2 he seems to have the most potential. Ederson impressed when used 10-15 min per game, but every single time we've used him as starter he dissapointed. I think it has to do (as somebody mentioned) with the fact that he cannot do defensive work (as it is required for Hernanes). Moreover, Felipe Anderson proved very useful as a sub for Lulic and Candreva. He is more mature than Keita and has better view on the game.
If Hernanes moves, I doubt that we will let Felipe go on loan without a suitable replacement. That would be just insane. Maybe if we sign Quag and Reja thinks that he can play behing Klose or so...no idea.
Even more, I am wondering what kind of loan would it be. Torino is not in the relegation battle, moreover they can be seen as an opponent for EL at the moment. I doubt that they need Felipe so much that they will just want to train him for us for 6 months. And I doubt that they have 8 mil to pay Lotito in a loan + buy deal.

In that view, loaning Felipe Anderson would he a huge mistake and will backfire.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Toni Laziale on January 17, 2014, 02:37:43 PM
I dont know yet how is here since im newbie here but on our forum nebeskoplavi people are little unsure in games of Anderson and Biglia. Felipe improved in last game but he need to make some constancy. Sometimes we argue on Tata Gonzales also an i think that Paolo are right for critisized few players for last few games. Sometimes our Laziali think that Hernanes act like ghost on field since he is not himself from last season. I can agree on selling Hernanes but only for good money, no any half player exchange like Belfodil or Botta.

Im from Bosnia and Herzegovina but my neighbors are Serbia we understand each others just fine so i will say to you that we dont know much about Filip Đorđević also. Not much than you are already read about.
I watched in december one special tv show on Arena Sport (sport channel that transmit Calcio) in which guest was Filip Đođević we call him Fićo or Fića (just like Fiat car produced in Zastava before in Ex-Yu). Fićo said that he will not confirm anything but that he likes idea to become Lazio striker. He also mentioned that president of Nantes cant stop him and he as player was fair all these years and now is time for step forward in his career. On end of show he said that we will se if he join us in winter or sumer transfer period. That depends solely on two clubs reaching agreement. And i personaly think that we will get great striker in form of Đorđević.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 03:43:18 PM
Apparently Inter is ready to sign Djordjevic now. We dont have a non-EU spot, they have. Same old story.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 17, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
Apparently Inter is ready to sign Djordjevic now. We dont have a non-EU spot, they have. Same old story.

And meanwhile they are cheeky enough to try and buy Hernanes from us. Don't do any business with Inter, if they pull this shit. Not that we aren't to blame either.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 17, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Inter is shit club. Always was.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 03:53:10 PM
Apparently Inter is ready to sign Djordjevic now. We dont have a non-EU spot, they have. Same old story.

And meanwhile they are cheeky enough to try and buy Hernanes from us. Don't do any business with Inter, if they pull this shit. Not that we aren't to blame either.

Well I am wondering if they don't try to get Djordjevic now so that they can use him for Hernanes later. Hernanes is also non-EU, so if they get Djordjevic that would mean no Hernanes for them. But what they could do is offer us money + the loan of Djordjevic (with some fee to be paid from Hernanes's fee in summer) for Hernanes. Tricky business.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 17, 2014, 03:57:39 PM
I said no for 8mil Quag, but it's ok for 4-5mil.
If we really have sealed Djordjevic for summer, I think it's better that we're not buying Quag, just stick with our curent strikers we have, and develop the youngsters (Perea, Keita and maybe even Tounkara). Just save the money in invest in another area.

Still hoping that we would sign Canavaro, and sell Hernanes to Inter for cash + Ranochia. We will have strong defense with Canavaro + Biava + Ranochia, and we can play with 3 CB in 3-5-2 tactic.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jofo on January 17, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
This just in... Juventus has proposed DeCeglie and Peluso to Lazio for Lulic


http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1 (http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 17, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MMV on January 17, 2014, 04:02:41 PM
This just in... Juventus has proposed DeCeglie and Peluso to Lazio for Lulic


[url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url] ([url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url])


Surely this is fantasy! a left and a right back, both decent over a winger whose only asset is running away from the ball!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: dimascio on January 17, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
My anxiety is growing that we end up with nothing after this market based on how we've put all our eggs in one basket for Quagliarella. Reja wants someone to be able to come straight in and has the Serie a experience. No decent striker is really on the market that fits that bill. Quags is perfect for our system of play but it's not like he's on the market either. Everyone has a price and Juve have set theirs. Problem is the player doesn't want to leave his bench role at the old sluts house.

So what do we do? Last minute push to sign someone with the same characteristics as Floccari?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
This just in... Juventus has proposed DeCeglie and Peluso to Lazio for Lulic


[url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url] ([url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url])


There's no way goal.com is the original source, so it will be interesting to see where that comes from, particularly as the author is Juventino. Would take his claims more seriously if he had the courage to provide a source.

It's an interesting rumour because Radu was ruled out for 15 days today and I think it could be longer. That puts some pressure on us to think about entering the market for a left-back and of course, both De Ceglie and Peluso would find plenty of game time here.

On another note, since our interest in Mario Pasalic has been confirmed by Hajduk Split and to my knowledge is the only confirmed target, it is interesting that speculation on Ivan Santini (http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2062) appears to be intensifying with his agent seemingly claiming that Lazio are interested. Coincidence that our only two confirmed targets are Croatian, probably the only market Tare and Reja both know other than Italy? Probably not.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 17, 2014, 04:09:45 PM
This just in... Juventus has proposed DeCeglie and Peluso to Lazio for Lulic


[url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url] ([url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url])


Surely this is fantasy! a left and a right back, both decent over a winger whose only asset is running away from the ball!


Aren't both left backs? But still, I'd say it's a good deal. We would be getting two mediocre leftbacks from a mediocre winger, who can play as a leftback too. Then we wouldn't need to use Konko on the wrong side ever again or we wouldn't need to use Cavanda on the wrong side either.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 17, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
This just in... Juventus has proposed DeCeglie and Peluso to Lazio for Lulic


[url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url] ([url]http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/01/17/4550354/ore-di-calciomercato-intense-per-la-juventus-offerta-alla?ICID=HP_BN_1[/url])


Take it!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 17, 2014, 04:12:03 PM
My anxiety is growing that we end up with nothing after this market based on how we've put all our eggs in one basket for Quagliarella. Reja wants someone to be able to come straight in and has the Serie a experience. No decent striker is really on the market that fits that bill. Quags is perfect for our system of play but it's not like he's on the market either. Everyone has a price and Juve have set theirs. Problem is the player doesn't want to leave his bench role at the old sluts house.

So what do we do? Last minute push to sign someone with the same characteristics as Floccari?
Gilardino, Bianchi? No more names to pop up.

If it is correct this for Lulić, would take it immediately. But, we will see.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
I have the feeling that this news comes from last year:
http://www.canalejuve.it/news/conte-vuole-un-esterno-mancino-dentro-lulic-via-de-ceglie-83405 (http://www.canalejuve.it/news/conte-vuole-un-esterno-mancino-dentro-lulic-via-de-ceglie-83405)

Here they say that they want Lulic for 8-9 mil or De Ceglie + money. But read this: " Il sogno di Conte si chiama sempre Ogbonna, ma l’affare resta di difficile realizzazione per questione economiche. Ed ecco che Peluso sarebbe la soluzione (economica) pronta in casa."

I think goal.com reused 3 of the names present here (Lulic, De Ceglie, Peluso) and made a new news.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 17, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
Anderson can't get much playing time for Lazio before Mauri returns and the projected arrival of Quagliarella; how much to you think he will after? Add the fact Reja wants Schelotto, potentially facilitating Candreva moving left or central, and his first team prospects become increasingly remote.

We paid €8m....so what? The money has been spent, and it's better for us that he's playing elsewhere than watching from the bench here. So far he hasn't been able to adapt to Calcio because he simply hasn't had the game time. If he gets it elsewhere we'll be able to asses his capabilities and decide what the next coarse of action is; if he flops elsewhere, we'll know to cut our losses in the summer, but if he prospers he'll come back to preseason a better player for it.

I never wanted any of our summer signings, and my opinion has so far been vindicated; only Perea has even come close to justifying his signing, the rest have been sidelined because they're simply no better than what we have. Luckily Reja appears to be directing the club towards common sense signings.

Regarding Inter, I'm not surprised. They're a joke organisation that's back in it'd rightful place of expensive mediocrity now the Calciopoli dust has settled. Let them have Djordjevic, and focus on selling Hernanes to a club like United; Moyes has been rebuffed in his attempts to get Marchisio, Vidal, Pogba and Hamsik in the last week, so I imagine Hernanes would be of interest to them.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 17, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Apparently Inter is ready to sign Djordjevic now. We dont have a non-EU spot, they have. Same old story.

we're going to sign Djordjevic for next summer, we don't have a non-EU spot this season but we will have for next season right?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 04:15:52 PM
Everton enquired about Onazi and Lotitto set his price at 10 mil.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 17, 2014, 04:17:21 PM
Anderson can't get much playing time for Lazio before Mauri returns and the projected arrival of Quagliarella; how much to you think he will after? Add the fact Reja wants Schelotto, potentially facilitating Candreva moving left or central, and his first team prospects become increasingly remote.

We paid €8m....so what? The money has been spent, and it's better for us that he's playing elsewhere than watching from the bench here. So far he hasn't been able to adapt to Calcio because he simply hasn't had the game time. If he gets it elsewhere we'll be able to asses his capabilities and decide what the next coarse of action is; if he flops elsewhere, we'll know to cut our losses in the summer, but if he prospers he'll come back to preseason a better player for it.

I never wanted any of our summer signings, and my opinion has so far been vindicated; only Perea has even come close to justifying his signing, the rest have been sidelined because they're simply no better than what we have. Luckily Reja appears to be directing the club towards common sense signings.

Regarding Inter, I'm not surprised. They're a joke organisation that's back in it'd rightful place of expensive mediocrity now the Calciopoli dust has settled. Let them have Djordjevic, and focus on selling Hernanes to a club like United; Moyes has been rebuffed in his attempts to get Marchisio, Vidal, Pogba and Hamsik in the last week, so I imagine Hernanes would be of interest to them.

I dotn understand this. Felipe is getting more and more time and he is doing better and better. He is one player that can play anywhere in front and we should keep him. nobody will train him for us.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 17, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
Mauri's return will see him automatically start ahead of him. In what limited time he'll get at Lazio, there will be immense pressure on him to perform miraculously to displace the more experienced players. Elsewhere, at a Chievo or Torino, he'd be able to play in a more relaxed manner without the pricetag weighing him down. A good loan spell could define the rest of his Lazio career.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 17, 2014, 05:56:23 PM
MCR is right in that case. Fully right. I also agree with drazvan that i personally would also don't like to see if Anderson would be loaned out, but with Mauri returning ... where should he play?
Instead of Candreva i would have no problem. But that will not happen.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 17, 2014, 06:03:53 PM
Lotito has put a 10mill pricetag on Onazi after Everton has been inquiring.
I'm very disappointed about this.  I mean the kid is 20y and already a crucial player for us, if Lazio is wanting to grow competitive, Lotito should put a lable on him 'NOT FOR SALE'!
I mean if you sell of the future star-midfielder of the squad, this means Lotito is preparing to become a mediocra serie a team and is satisfied with top 10 football?
Also putting a price tag on him that is fair, is giving the signal to Onazi that Lazio is not seeing a future with him and will work demotivating.
If this is true, we have another managerial blunder from Lotito?
In my opinion there are only a few players that cannot leave at any cost, because they are insuring Lazio's competitive future (Perea/Onazi/Keita/Anderson).
Selling Onazi for 10 mill is giving him away in my opinion!
If he continues developing like this, he will be worth 25 mill in no time.

And if Anderson is to be loaned out, Mauri and another new player will have to be available?
We have Coppa, EL and Serie A football still coming up.  I mean what is Reja to do then, line up the primavera in the EL?  If you play that many matches, you need a large squad, simple as that ...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
Lotito has put a 10mill pricetag on Onazi after Everton has been inquiring.

That rumour is out there, yes, but it comes also with the suggestion that once Onazi finds himself an agent, he will want to offload himself to the Premier League.

Might be worth looking at it from another perspective - Onazi has been without an agent for about 6-12 months. That would suggest to me he is happy with the club and his contract. That could change tomorrow of course, but whoever designed that rumour is looking at it from a very negative angle.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 17, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
Lotito has put a 10mill pricetag on Onazi after Everton has been inquiring.

That rumour is out there, yes, but it comes also with the suggestion that once Onazi finds himself an agent, he will want to offload himself to the Premier League.

Might be worth looking at it from another perspective - Onazi has been without an agent for about 6-12 months. That would suggest to me he is happy with the club and his contract. That could change tomorrow of course, but whoever designed that rumour is looking at it from a very negative angle.

since paolo can host any players to the radio show, we should start giving support to some players. and let them know for granted that they are the core of the team, its future, etc... we as supporters should play a better role in that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 17, 2014, 08:01:55 PM
There is some confirmation Lazio will talke with Ivan Santini (Kortijk) about a future transfer?

Another step in the direction of becoming a top 10 serie a club.
Santini has a nose for the goal and is a good finisher, no doubt about this, but ....
he struggled at Freiburg and scored his goals in belgium against some of the worst defences in Europe!
Not a reference if you ask me?
Really hope this does not happen.
Spend this money for some younger talents you are following Lotito?
- Palasic (AM)
- Milic (CB)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 17, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
It's looking imminent that Jorginho will be a Napoli-player very soon!

Here we go again, all the serie A talent to thesame clubs.
This keeps on going, being a top 6 team again in the near future is becoming an illusion ......

I'm guessing Lotito is fine with this, no other explanation possible ???

Another mercato of good rumours falling true every time and then after this the talks of our good players leaving. 

I'm 99% certain with Djordjevic coming in the summer, no new striker will arrive this month and Flocc will be sold.  Klose and Perea will finish the season and Tounkara will be promoted (Reja already spoke of this).

Lotito will not be able to sell Nova or Ciani, so Cannavaro of another decent CB will not arrive.
Then the possibility of Hernanes and Onazi being sold this mercato?

Failiure after failiure .....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 17, 2014, 09:20:35 PM
Nantes apparently confirmed that Djordjevic is going to Lazio this summer and that he has signed already.
I'm happy with this, he might actually adjust well and keep scoring?

Also Nantes reported that Inter treid to sneak in at the last minute to steel him from under are noses,
this would not be the first time?  But Djordjevic is reported to be one those players that keeps his word, not many left this day and age .....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 17, 2014, 09:22:16 PM
Nantes apparently confirmed that Djordjevic is going to Lazio this summer and that he has signed already.
I'm happy with this, he might actually adjust well and keep scoring?

Also Nantes reported that Inter treid to sneak in at the last minute to steel him from under are noses,
this would not be the first time?  But Djordjevic is reported to be one those players that keeps his word, not many left this day and age .....

If we do sells Floc then we should offer 2 mill euros or so to Nantes to get them to let him come here now.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: igor_istria on January 17, 2014, 09:41:58 PM
Nantes apparently confirmed that Djordjevic is going to Lazio this summer and that he has signed already.
I'm happy with this, he might actually adjust well and keep scoring?

Also Nantes reported that Inter treid to sneak in at the last minute to steel him from under are noses,
this would not be the first time?  But Djordjevic is reported to be one those players that keeps his word, not many left this day and age .....

If we do sells Floc then we should offer 2 mill euros or so to Nantes to get them to let him come here now.

We can't. He is non-eu.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 17, 2014, 09:46:07 PM
I would have thought six years in France would entitle Djordjevic to a French passport.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Toni Laziale on January 17, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Nantes apparently confirmed that Djordjevic is going to Lazio this summer and that he has signed already.
I'm happy with this, he might actually adjust well and keep scoring?

Also Nantes reported that Inter treid to sneak in at the last minute to steel him from under are noses,
this would not be the first time?  But Djordjevic is reported to be one those players that keeps his word, not many left this day and age .....

If we do sells Floc then we should offer 2 mill euros or so to Nantes to get them to let him come here now.

We can't. He is non-eu.
We can on summer. Đorđević is playing 8 years in France, maybe he can recieve french passport. For naturalisation in France i think that you need to live and work there for at least 2 years.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: zekipula on January 17, 2014, 09:53:05 PM
I think that Toni is right !
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 17, 2014, 10:50:20 PM
WHY CAN'T SERBIA BE PART OF THE EU!!!

Doesn't matter, as long as we wrap up the deal before Inter, we'll be fine, even if it's for the summer.

Also, tell Everton to look elsewhere. Onazi stays at Lazio, do you hear me Lotito?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 17, 2014, 10:55:17 PM
Liverpool might put in a bid for Candreva in the summer. Again, look somewhere else.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 18, 2014, 12:07:03 AM
Ranocchia's potential move to Dortmund could see Cannavaro head there as his replacement; that'd be a shame, as Paolo ticks all the right boxes for us for the foreseeable future.

Apparently Inter's attempts to take Djordjevic have irritated Lotito to the point where he will no longer negotiate about Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 18, 2014, 12:23:35 AM
Ranocchia's potential move to Dortmund could see Cannavaro head there as his replacement; that'd be a shame, as Paolo ticks all the right boxes for us for the foreseeable future.

Apparently Inter's attempts to take Djordjevic have irritated Lotito to the point where he will no longer negotiate about Hernanes.

Well for once (if it's true offcourse) i will back him up this time, that is irritating.  If there are clear intentions and clubs battle for one player it's normal.  But Inter have never shown interest, but when it became clear Djordjevic would actually leave Nantes for Lazio, they tried to sneak in and grab him. 
That is shamefull and not honorable, Thohir has shown his face with this and i must say it does not look promissing.
This result is negative for us once again afterall, because Inter is now another club Lotito won't do bussines with anymore!  I don't think there are anymore left in the Serie A that Lotito can talk to?

But if Hernanes would be sold, i'm always hoping for an non-italian club?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 18, 2014, 04:03:54 AM
Nantes apparently confirmed that Djordjevic is going to Lazio this summer and that he has signed already.
I'm happy with this, he might actually adjust well and keep scoring?

Also Nantes reported that Inter treid to sneak in at the last minute to steel him from under are noses,
this would not be the first time?  But Djordjevic is reported to be one those players that keeps his word, not many left this day and age .....

If we do sells Floc then we should offer 2 mill euros or so to Nantes to get them to let him come here now.

Just give Ciani to them :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 18, 2014, 11:09:11 AM
 Can we keep Hernanes-Candreva-Onazi?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 18, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
If Inter steal Djordjevic from us the way they stole Laxalt I would be really pissed!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Toni Laziale on January 18, 2014, 01:52:44 PM
Here is translation from serbian news portal. Pretty optimistic. I looking forward to se Đorđević in our shirt.  :sciarpa05:

ĐORĐEVIĆ REJECTS TOTTENHAM, I ONLY WANT LAZIO AND NOBODY ELSE !!

(http://www.sportske.net/text_images/201401/djordjevic-velika142470020140108100955.jpg)

Filip wanted to Italy from the beginning, his contract with Nantes is about to expire, he does not want to re-sign with Nantes because his intention to try his hand in a large club and a stronger league.

He had offers from England, teams like WBA, West Ham and Everton, as we learn Đorđević is wanted by Tottenham, where he would probably earn more money, but he wants Lazio.

The contract is ready, he will sign a five-year, approximately 1.5 million net per season, and it seems that it is more important affirmation than money.

It is not a secret that Đorđević have primarily a sports motiv, in Rome will certainly play, where Miroslav Klose leaving the club at the end of the season, which opens a place for Đorđević.

Lazio needs striker, even now in winter transfer period, but the problem Nantes does not seem to want to let the Serb go, or asking too much money to give him a "green light" six months before the expiration of the contract.

Romans also want Fabio Quagliarella from Juventus, but he was too expensive, though, they offered about 1.5 million euros per season.

Either way Filip's future is in Lazio, he would, if he is not some dramatic turnaround, should appear in the "Formelo" at July first and officially sign the contract with the "Eagles".

Source: (http://www.sportske.net/img/logo-news.png) (http://www.sportske.net/vest/transferi/djordjevic-otkacio-totenhem-lacio-i-nista-vise-162764.html)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 18, 2014, 01:59:20 PM
Encouraging stuff, good to see no sign of Inter's name as well.



On another transfer front Juve have agreed to loan De Ceglie to Genoa for the rest of the season, hopefully that'll put an end to that idiotic story about them offering him and Peluso for Lulic.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 18, 2014, 02:23:59 PM
A person in the world of football who keeps his promises...he is already my favourite and he is not even a Lazio player yet.

Honestly, with so many money hungry scumbags in the world of football, the fact he has priorities like this gives me a good feeling. Means he will join us without trying to use us as a club that he can move on from later...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: igor_istria on January 18, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
A person in the world of football who keeps his promises...he is already my favourite and he is not even a Lazio player yet.

Honestly, with so many money hungry scumbags in the world of football, the fact he has priorities like this gives me a good feeling. Means he will join us without trying to use us as a club that he can move on from later...

hmm....i just checked that article on sportske.net. that was from yesterday. today they are saying that inter offered him 1,7 m per year, and 500k to Nantes to bring him this winter.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Toni Laziale on January 18, 2014, 02:35:47 PM
A person in the world of football who keeps his promises...he is already my favourite and he is not even a Lazio player yet.

Honestly, with so many money hungry scumbags in the world of football, the fact he has priorities like this gives me a good feeling. Means he will join us without trying to use us as a club that he can move on from later...


hmm....i just checked that article on sportske.net. that was from yesterday. today they are saying that inter offered him 1,7 m per year, and 500k to Nantes to bring him this winter.


hmmm my friend...i read that second article (http://www.sportske.net/vest/transferi/djordjevicev-ljubavni-trougao-162916.html) and there also is written that Nantes and Inter cant do anything because Đorđević is already accepted Lazio's offer and they can only wait june to see outcome.
 :beer:
He certanly want to be in first team and not some substitute in Inter or third choice.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 18, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
A person in the world of football who keeps his promises...he is already my favourite and he is not even a Lazio player yet.

Honestly, with so many money hungry scumbags in the world of football, the fact he has priorities like this gives me a good feeling. Means he will join us without trying to use us as a club that he can move on from later...

Djordjevic doesn't sound like the most humble person in the world, just so you know.

If he has signed a pre-contract agreement with us, the chances are he cannot break it. So it's not that he is keeping his word, more that he is avoiding a lawsuit. Nantes seem to have no idea what the situation is so you have to question how honest and loyal he is on that basis. To me, he seems exactly like a player who would use us a stepping stone.

There are reports in France that Trabzonspor made a big money offer for him but that it obviously could not be done as he has agreed terms with us. It will be interesting to see if their search for a striker leads them back to Floccari.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 18, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
In Serbia, almost all newspapers and media believe that Đorđević already sign for Lazio. We will see.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 18, 2014, 04:44:57 PM
Djordjevic is still an unproven player in a big league and Lazio will be his best career move to date.

Anti-Klose? I am already in doupt...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Toni Laziale on January 18, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
Djordjevic is still an unproven player in a big league and Lazio will be his best career move to date.

Anti-Klose? I am already in doupt...
Just to clear out. I would like that Miroslav Klose finish carrear in our Lazio so we will se what decision will be in summer. Klose is men of his word and maybe we should respect his decision.
 :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 18, 2014, 07:24:22 PM
Djordjevic is still an unproven player in a big league and Lazio will be his best career move to date.

Anti-Klose? I am already in doupt...

If Klose won't extend we need to buy another quality forward as well as signing Djordjevic for free. We can't rely on Djordjevic as our only main striker, then we will struggle.

No one knows how he will adapt to Serie A, he has scored a lot in Ligue 2 and started good this season in Ligue 1 but to believe he will save us and bring us up the table would be a mistake. He needs a proven striker next to him so he has someone to compete againt, fight for his place and also learn from.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 18, 2014, 08:03:02 PM
Well, the competition keep pulling in there reinforcements and Lazio is still nowhere this mercato?

Napoli bought Jorginho for 5.5 mill.  A reasonable proven serie A player with a bright future, great transfer, but once again not our Lazio.

We spent 8-9mill on Anderson who is struggling, hopefully not for very much longer?  And Lotito offering 6-8mill to get Quagliarella, who is not even interested?

Matri and Anderson (Man Utd) to Fiorentina.
Merda grab Bastos on loan, another certitude.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 18, 2014, 08:05:52 PM
Napoli paid €5.5m for 50% of Jorginho's rights, it'll cost another €5m at the end of the season before they own him outright.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 18, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
That article does not mean anything unfortunately. there is no quote or any word from a player, his manager, club. Just a summary of what we know so far.

His agent met with Tare today and tonight traveled to France to present Djordjevic this scenario;

1. Join Inter now in January; and

2. Wait for Lazio in July.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 18, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
That article does not mean anything unfortunately. there is no quote or any word from a player, his manager, club. Just a summary of what we know so far.

His agent met with Tare today and tonight traveled to France to present Djordjevic this scenario;

1. Join Inter now in January; and

2. Wait for Lazio in July.

How much would Inter have to pay to get him already in January?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 18, 2014, 08:56:03 PM
That article does not mean anything unfortunately. there is no quote or any word from a player, his manager, club. Just a summary of whatwe know so far.

His agent met with Tare today and tonight traveled to France to present Djordjevic this scenario;

1. Join Inter now in January; and

2. Wait for Lazio in July.


How much would Inter have to pay to get him already in January?

500000 euro.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 18, 2014, 09:01:34 PM
Correct me if im wrong, if we get rid of a non eu we can sign a new one right?

So sell Dias, or offer him to release him on free so he can go back to Brazil. Sign Djordevic and then a new cb and done..or maybe another midfielder.

also it's getting depressing how pretty much every club we're competing against apart from Rubentus are doing business. But as usual we wait until the very last day, the day that always makes us look like fools.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ArmLaziale on January 18, 2014, 11:09:49 PM
I can understand Napoli, merda, Milan spending money...but since when Fiore became so attractive and so financially muscular?
The mercato is dead to me, we don't have 500000 to spend on Djordjevich and want to get Quagliarella by 1.5 mln installments a year.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 18, 2014, 11:41:47 PM
I can understand Napoli, merda, Milan spending money...but since when Fiore became so attractive and so financially muscular?
The mercato is dead to me, we don't have 500000 to spend on Djordjevich and want to get Quagliarella by 1.5 mln installments a year.
We have 500000, but CAN'T spend that on Đorđević now.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 19, 2014, 03:36:08 AM
Interview with Fiore was interesting; he spoke of Lazio not selling Hernanes until we have a replacement and rightly pointed out that Felipe isn't ready; I'd look towards Bonaventura,who himself has had an average season so far but is certainly a talent and Mauri-esque in style. His ability to play wide left or as the #10 would allow us to consider offers for Lulic (possibly use him in a swap for Quagliarella).
Another option that I'd pursue is Lewis Holtby at Spurs, who's surplus to requirements at Spurs now Sherwood has implemented an orthodox 4-4-2. He's young yet experienced at a good level and similar in style to the aforementioned Bonaventura, Mauri and even Fiore himself.

Djordjevic is going to be an interesting signing, from what little I've seen he looks impressive, is a good age, technically and physically sound.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 10:55:14 AM
De Ceglie is now officialy loaned out to Genoa.
So the bulshitt-rumour about a swap Lulic - De Ceglie & Peluso is also to be ignored?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
Interview with Fiore was interesting; he spoke of Lazio not selling Hernanes until we have a replacement and rightly pointed out that Felipe isn't ready; I'd look towards Bonaventura,who himself has had an average season so far but is certainly a talent and Mauri-esque in style. His ability to play wide left or as the #10 would allow us to consider offers for Lulic (possibly use him in a swap for Quagliarella).
Another option that I'd pursue is Lewis Holtby at Spurs, who's surplus to requirements at Spurs now Sherwood has implemented an orthodox 4-4-2. He's young yet experienced at a good level and similar in style to the aforementioned Bonaventura, Mauri and even Fiore himself.

Djordjevic is going to be an interesting signing, from what little I've seen he looks impressive, is a good age, technically and physically sound.

I share your opinion about Holtby and Bonaventura, but this is pure fantasy i'm afraid?
Lotito can't even put in 6mill straight for 1 transfer so signing either of those players is totally out of the question.  Also, Lazio might be a step up for Bonaventura but Holtby would never be interested.  He went from Schalke to Tottenham and would have to let go of half his salary.

Indeed Djordjevic is interesting, a real goalgetter, but i will believe it when he's in a Lazio-jersey?
The media might say he's already in agreement with Lazio for this summer, but we all now this has no value.  Inter is still trying to steal him away!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 19, 2014, 11:47:56 AM
I read somewhere that Lotito asked to loan Morata from Real Madrid but the answer was: fcuk off!  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 19, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
So 2/3 of the mercato gone and Lotito has not done anything whatsoever..sometimes I wonder what on earth he wants with this club and what his ambitions are.

We got an insanely lucky win today, but everyone can see where we need new players.

We still need a CB, a playmaker and finally as last priority a striker.

WE'RE 6 POINTS BEHIND A POTENTIAL EL SPOT, MAKE SOME GOD DAMN TRANSFERS NOW, SPEND SOME MONEY, THE TEAM NEEDS FRESH BLOOD..BETTER PLAYERS.

I cannot believe it, if the idea is to wait until the very last day again. Read my signature if you want to know why I think it's stupid..as we have failed everytime we tried this last minute transfer bullshit.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 03:25:55 PM
So 2/3 of the mercato gone and Lotito has not done anything whatsoever..sometimes I wonder what on earth he wants with this club and what his ambitions are.

We got an insanely lucky win today, but everyone can see where we need new players.

We still need a CB, a playmaker and finally as last priority a striker.

WE'RE 6 POINTS BEHIND A POTENTIAL EL SPOT, MAKE SOME GOD DAMN TRANSFERS NOW, SPEND SOME MONEY, THE TEAM NEEDS FRESH BLOOD..BETTER PLAYERS.

I cannot believe it, if the idea is to wait until the very last day again. Read my signature if you want to know why I think it's stupid..as we have failed everytime we tried this last minute transfer bullshit.

Exactly right, could not have been said better!

The team is screaming, begging for at least 1 new good CB, and please get rid of Ciani and maybe throw in Nova aswell, 2 for the price of one for all i care?
Then we need a Ledesma-sub, proven again today, no real DM is no stability in MF!
Offensive midfielders we have enough (Hernanes/Ederson/Anderson/Keita/Candreva/Mauri).
We need Djordjevic now and not this summer, but Lotidiot won't pay extra as usual?
He wants only transferfree players, wich means Inter could still steal him away before summer?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
Reja about Hernanes after the game:

 Edy Reja said “this is the Hernanes I know” after a last-gasp victory for 10-man Lazio over Udinese.

The Coach is still unbeaten since replacing Vladimir Petkovic on the bench and today his side fought back twice to win 3-2 at the Stadio Friuli.

“It was about time we saw a win away from home, as that hadn’t happened in too long,” Reja told Sky Sport Italia.

“Considering the way the game was going, I didn’t think we’d even get a point today. Hernanes came out with an incredible goal, this is the Prophet I know.

“Hernanes had the right attitude today and was firing up the lads in the locker room. I gave him a hand, he cares about the club colours and wants to be important for this team.

This means Reja doesn't want him out and Hernanes probably does not want to leave?
Lotito on the other hand is more likely wanting to cash in ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 19, 2014, 03:38:22 PM
So 2/3 of the mercato gone and Lotito has not done anything whatsoever..sometimes I wonder what on earth he wants with this club and what his ambitions are.

We got an insanely lucky win today, but everyone can see where we need new players.

We still need a CB, a playmaker and finally as last priority a striker.

WE'RE 6 POINTS BEHIND A POTENTIAL EL SPOT, MAKE SOME GOD DAMN TRANSFERS NOW, SPEND SOME MONEY, THE TEAM NEEDS FRESH BLOOD..BETTER PLAYERS.

I cannot believe it, if the idea is to wait until the very last day again. Read my signature if you want to know why I think it's stupid..as we have failed everytime we tried this last minute transfer bullshit.

Exactly right, could not have been said better!

The team is screaming, begging for at least 1 new good CB, and please get rid of Ciani and maybe throw in Nova aswell, 2 for the price of one for all i care?
Then we need a Ledesma-sub, proven again today, no real DM is no stability in MF!
Offensive midfielders we have enough (Hernanes/Ederson/Anderson/Keita/Candreva/Mauri).
We need Djordjevic now and not this summer, but Lotidiot won't pay extra as usual?
He wants only transferfree players, wich means Inter could still steal him away before summer?
Again, we CAN'T sign Djordjevic now, he is non-EU.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 19, 2014, 03:54:40 PM
So 2/3 of the mercato gone and Lotito has not done anything whatsoever..sometimes I wonder what on earth he wants with this club and what his ambitions are.

We got an insanely lucky win today, but everyone can see where we need new players.

We still need a CB, a playmaker and finally as last priority a striker.

WE'RE 6 POINTS BEHIND A POTENTIAL EL SPOT, MAKE SOME GOD DAMN TRANSFERS NOW, SPEND SOME MONEY, THE TEAM NEEDS FRESH BLOOD..BETTER PLAYERS.

I cannot believe it, if the idea is to wait until the very last day again. Read my signature if you want to know why I think it's stupid..as we have failed everytime we tried this last minute transfer bullshit.

Reja said after the game he wants reinforcements now.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 19, 2014, 04:28:55 PM
I suggested a few weeks back that Edy probably aspires to field a 3-5-2, and today proved it, albeit with the wrong personal. Pair Quagliarella with Klose up front, let Cannavaro anchor the defence between Biava and Radu, with Mauri attacking midfield. Candreva/Gonzalez next to Ledesma. Marchetti back in goal. Konko isnt reliable in a fitness context, so no wonder Edy is looking towards Schelotto.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 19, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
feftatzidis from genoa! i want him asap!!!!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: LofL on January 19, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
feftatzidis from genoa! i want him asap!!!!!!

A bench warmer who's only started 6 times this season, yes we need more of those....

It's time to stop buying ok players who give us depth. We need players that can walk straight in to the first XI.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 19, 2014, 04:48:28 PM
So true, we've got enough fringe players already who may..or may not be able to become a profile with our club.

I would mention names like Bonaventura, Cannavaro, Astori and finally Gilardino maybe if we really need a striker and only if we let Floc go. He would probably be a lot cheaper than Quag and he can score goals.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 05:27:37 PM
I suggested a few weeks back that Edy probably aspires to field a 3-5-2, and today proved it, albeit with the wrong personal. Pair Quagliarella with Klose up front, let Cannavaro anchor the defence between Biava and Radu, with Mauri attacking midfield. Candreva/Gonzalez next to Ledesma. Marchetti back in goal. Konko isnt reliable in a fitness context, so no wonder Edy is looking towards Schelotto.

Yes, but ...... and here it comes

Quag is seems to not be interested in playing here, if Cannavaro would come he would be here already i presume, and yes maybe Reja wants Schellotto for this formation.  Not really a fan, but the guy just keeps ons running for 90min without taking a breather, he has 4 longs!

To really be good in this formation and staying with it players would have to come and other would have to go? (thinking of: pereirinha/cavanda/ciani/novaretti, they would have to go in my opinion?)

The wingers would be a RB and a LB.  And because we have many MF's, the second striker would be a offensive MF?  We would then have 4 places available on MF, and we have 9 actual midfielders that can play first team, too many in my opinion?

If Reja wanted to keep his 3-5-2 or something like it, a lot of changes would have to happen this mercato, and so far nothing is happening?

Because of all this i would prefer playing with a 4 man defence for now.
The squad we have now is more fit for this.

I see something like this:

                                                marchetti/berisha

konko/cavanda/pereirinha       biava/ciani            dias/novaretti            radu/lulic

                          gonzalez/cana        ledesma/onazi     hernanes/biglia

                                     anderson/ederson          candreva/keita

                                                   klose/perea/floccari


I would like to see sold : cavanda/pereirinha/ciani/novaretti/floccari
and signed :                 RB / 2 CB's (or Radu CB with new LB) / striker (djordjevic in summer?)

Should do it for this formation, switching to a 3-5-2 would require much more buying and selling and we all know Lotito?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 19, 2014, 06:18:05 PM
feftatzidis from genoa! i want him asap!!!!!!

A bench warmer who's only started 6 times this season, yes we need more of those....

It's time to stop buying ok players who give us depth. We need players that can walk straight in to the first XI.

have you seen him actually play? genoa's best player today.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 19, 2014, 06:24:19 PM
have you seen him actually play? genoa's best player today.

And? Why do you prefer a player who had one good game in another shirt over Lulic, who has had about 40 good games in our shirt?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 19, 2014, 06:28:01 PM
feftatzidis from genoa! i want him asap!!!!!!

A bench warmer who's only started 6 times this season, yes we need more of those....

It's time to stop buying ok players who give us depth. We need players that can walk straight in to the first XI.

have you seen him actually play? genoa's best player today.
Hilarious
You said it, "today". If we're to buy players using this criteria we'll have few thousands of players here waiting for the best game "today"...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Terzino on January 19, 2014, 06:45:09 PM
If we use the 3-5-2, does this mean we can finally expect to see the more offensive Vinicius on the left of the 5?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Laziofin11 on January 19, 2014, 07:32:11 PM
We need playmaker why not try to sign Diamanti from Bologna? He is good, would be good add at Lazio's middlefield? Your thoughts guys?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 19, 2014, 07:38:37 PM
Is diamanti not more of a second striker?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jofo on January 19, 2014, 07:42:45 PM
We don't have the players for 3-5-2 BASTA!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 07:44:39 PM
Is diamanti not more of a second striker?

Correct my friend, Diamanti is a second striker 100%!

We have Ederson/Anderson/Keita who can all play that position, i don't see a reason to get Diamanti who will probably cost around 9mill.  1 or even 2 new decent CB's and a good RB that's what we need right now!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Laziofin11 on January 19, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
So we are going to continue playing with 3-5-2?
So at front Klose-Perea/New signing?
Who should be new signing?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 19, 2014, 07:52:58 PM
We don't have the players for 3-5-2 BASTA!

Yes, this is just it.
Like i explained before, and again here:

To really be good in this 3-5-2 formation and staying with it players would have to come and other would have to go? (thinking of: pereirinha/cavanda/ciani/novaretti, they would have to go in my opinion?)

The wingers would be a RB and a LB.  And because we have many MF's, the second striker would be a offensive MF?  We would then have 4 places available on MF, and we have 9 actual midfielders that can play first team, too many in my opinion?

If Reja wanted to keep his 3-5-2 or something like it, a lot of changes would have to happen this mercato, and so far nothing is happening?

Because of all this i would prefer playing with a 4 man defence for now.
The squad we have now is more fit for this.

I see something like this:

                                                marchetti/berisha

konko/cavanda/pereirinha       biava/ciani            dias/novaretti            radu/lulic

                          gonzalez/cana        ledesma/onazi     hernanes/biglia

                                     anderson/ederson          candreva/keita

                                                   klose/perea/floccari


I would like to see sold : cavanda/pereirinha/ciani/novaretti/floccari
and signed :                 RB / 2 CB's (or Radu CB with new LB) / striker (djordjevic in summer?)

Should do it for this formation, switching to a 3-5-2 would require much more buying and selling and we all know Lotito?


Not many forummembers actually read the previous comments before adding remarques already been noted on the page before?

Don't mean you, Jofo, i'm glad you share my opinion!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 19, 2014, 08:00:42 PM
have you seen him actually play? genoa's best player today.

And? Why do you prefer a player who had one good game in another shirt over Lulic, who has had about 40 good games in our shirt?


cause when I say he was the best today, it doesn't mean he didn't do pretty good in other games I've seen.

has speed, technique, dribble and a good shot. but most important he can pass an opponent 1vs1. who can do that in our team? hernanes and cavanda.....

lulic having 40 good games? LOL!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 19, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/djordjevic-ha-scelto-sa-alla-lazio-40707 (http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/djordjevic-ha-scelto-sa-alla-lazio-40707)

Di Marzio: "Djordjevic said 'yes' to Lazio. Official in next couple of days".
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 19, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
Why can't we just let go of a non eu player and get him now instead?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Miro on January 19, 2014, 09:19:49 PM
[url]http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/djordjevic-ha-scelto-sa-alla-lazio-40707[/url] ([url]http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/djordjevic-ha-scelto-sa-alla-lazio-40707[/url])

Di Marzio: "Djordjevic said 'yes' to Lazio. Official in next couple of days".


Ugh.Another average player.That's great.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Adamo on January 19, 2014, 10:57:16 PM
For those interested, Nantes is playing today and is on Beinsport in US at 5:00 EST. Looking forward to watch Djordjevic play.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 19, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
For those interested, Nantes is playing today and is on Beinsport in US at 5:00 EST. Looking forward to watch Djordjevic play.
Just finished. Nantes lost against PSG 5:0.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 20, 2014, 01:40:16 AM
 Players for first eleven-yes
 Otherwise we have lot of players that we pay for nothing,only excuse is RB.
 Diamanti isnt second striker,playmaker,trequartista.......example: at West Ham,Bologna and NT he played in different positions.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 20, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
Viola looking to strenghten their defence and one name that pops up is Ciani.

Marseille looking to loan Vinicius as well, sounds strange but it's a rumour anyway.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 20, 2014, 11:59:26 AM
Read both news on LLSN.. both strange to be honest especially the rumor from france. where did they see Vinicius play and why are they interested in him?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
For those interested, Nantes is playing today and is on Beinsport in US at 5:00 EST. Looking forward to watch Djordjevic play.
Just finished. Nantes lost against PSG 5:0.

How did Djordjevic play?  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 12:36:54 PM
Marseille apparently wants to buy Vinicius, calling him the next Roberto Carlos...where the hell is that coming from? They guy did not play a single minute so far...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 20, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Imagine now that he goes there and shows and amazing talent... What would our reaction be?!  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
Viola looking to strenghten their defence and one name that pops up is Ciani.

Marseille looking to loan Vinicius as well, sounds strange but it's a rumour anyway.

Viola interested in Ciani?  This must be a joke, but if not, 4mill and i would deliver him myself on a silver platter.  Because i think he cost us 4 mill didn't he?
Maybe 3mill or 2.5mill, please buy him???
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Marseille apparently wants to buy Vinicius, calling him the next Roberto Carlos...where the hell is that coming from? They guy did not play a single minute so far...

Marseille wanting Vini on loan, very strange rumour, they could have only seen him play the friendly against Grifone and i doubt they had a scout there?
But i only heard good things about him after that game, great technic, great insight.
Only thing negative Reja said is that he was to offensive minded and hereby neglected his defensive duties too much, i'm guessing this is wy Reja hasen't given him a chance yet?
But he's starting to appear on the gamesheet more often?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 01:11:42 PM
Viola looking to strenghten their defence and one name that pops up is Ciani.

Marseille looking to loan Vinicius as well, sounds strange but it's a rumour anyway.

Viola interested in Ciani?  This must be a joke, but if not, 4mill and i would deliver him myself on a silver platter.  Because i think he cost us 4 mill didn't he?
Maybe 3mill or 2.5mill, please buy him???

Somehow I feel that when we will play Viola I will be happier to see Ciani in their shirt than ours! If they want him, anything above 2 mil is fine with me!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Ed on January 20, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
Hahahahaha! These new rumours are the best! I am sure we could organise a forum guard of honour to escort Ciani to Florence! Vinicius on loan to any decent team is pointless as he just wouldn't play, unless Marseille really are blinded by the "New Roberto Carlos" tag that they have invented. There must be some Serie D teams that could actually use him...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 01:34:11 PM
Hahahahaha! These new rumours are the best! I am sure we could organise a forum guard of honour to escort Ciani to Florence! Vinicius on loan to any decent team is pointless as he just wouldn't play, unless Marseille really are blinded by the "New Roberto Carlos" tag that they have invented. There must be some Serie D teams that could actually use him...

I hope Vinicius shaves his head to look a bit more similar to Roberto Carlos. Maybe we can let him shoot some balls before each game as a sort of an advertisement?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 20, 2014, 01:36:04 PM
For those interested, Nantes is playing today and is on Beinsport in US at 5:00 EST. Looking forward to watch Djordjevic play.
Just finished. Nantes lost against PSG 5:0.

How did Djordjevic play?  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:
Ehehehe.  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 20, 2014, 01:37:08 PM
Norwich pushing for Ciani and apparently the clubs are close to finding an agreement.

The above statement was La Lazio terms.

Lets look at the real world terms:

Norwich considering looking at Ciani, but have 10 other CBs in mind first.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Ed on January 20, 2014, 01:39:07 PM
Maybe we could have Garrido back in a swap deal! Ciani and Bassong would be a killer defence! :bravo:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 20, 2014, 02:18:23 PM
Ciani really has two fatal flaws. The first is his laziness and the fact he often stands still when he needs to be on his toes ready to intercept a good pass or make a clearance. The second is the fact that his game is based more on his physicality than his intelligence, and that he is playing in Italy.

For a team like Norwich, he's an attractive proposition because you know if you can cut out his laziness, you have a bit more steel in your backline.

For a team like Fiorentina, he adds that element of physicality that their defence lack. Gonzalo Rodriguez, Roncaglia and Tomovic are all 6 foot tall or under, so having Ciani back there not only adds a few more inches in the air, but plenty of brute strength on the ground.

The reason why Ciani has failed here in my opinion is because our defence revolves more around intelligent footballers than physical specimen or even talent. Radu, Biava, Dias, Konko, Cana, Pereirinha - they all have a degree of footballing intelligence that Ciani (and Cavanda) lack.

I'm not sure how much of a footballing brain Novaretti has, but I suspect if Reja was going to sacrifice anyone for Cannavaro or someone similar, it would be Ciani.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 03:16:43 PM
I am ok with selling Ciani, the only problem is that it might prove a trap if we fail to sign a defender. Biava and Dias wont last long and except them it's only Cana and Novaretti. I dont think that we are ok with relying on them for the next 2-3 months...

So, sure, sell Ciani - I would like to get anything above 2 mil as he is not the most suitable defender for us at the moment. But buy somebody better.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
SportMediaset says Milan offers 10 mil euro for Marchetti. It is also mentioned that Marchetti was not in the goals yesterday due to a technical decision, not to an injury.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 20, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
Milan don't have that money spend, if it was Juventus I would believe that story
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 03:49:27 PM
Personnaly i think this Norwich - Ciani rumour is total bull...... ?
Hope it's true tough, you never know in football?

It is so,  SELL SELL SELL, quickly and get a Serie A CB Lotito, please?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 20, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
Personnaly i think this Norwich - Ciani rumour is total bull...... ?


Why so, we already sold Garrido to them!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
Personnaly i think this Norwich - Ciani rumour is total bull...... ?


Why so, we already sold Garrido to them!

True :)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 20, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
 We have enough time,10 days  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 20, 2014, 04:27:11 PM
Personnaly i think this Norwich - Ciani rumour is total bull...... ?


Why so, we already sold Garrido to them!

The other interesting aspect to consider is the fact that there is speculation that Norwich are considering replacing Chris Hughton with Neil Lennon of Celtic, and let's not forget where Ciani was supposedly heading in the summer...

It's a bit speculative, but it's one of the more credible rumours you'll see.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 20, 2014, 04:39:49 PM
what we all going to see is a busy last day of mercato with loads and lots of rumors....
we'll be waiting the updates every five or ten minutes from caxi only to be frustrated at the end of the evening !! :) so i won't ask for anything cuz i know for a fact that it would be a miracle to get anyone that could make some changes... not a free client! or someone that not a football club in the world would want right now.

and if by any miracle i was mistaken... i wouldn't be that sad!! huh !?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 04:44:12 PM
Personnaly i think this Norwich - Ciani rumour is total bull...... ?


Why so, we already sold Garrido to them!

The other interesting aspect to consider is the fact that there is speculation that Norwich are considering replacing Chris Hughton with Neil Lennon of Celtic, and let's not forget where Ciani was supposedly heading in the summer...

It's a bit speculative, but it's one of the more credible rumours you'll see.

Yes, i must say this is a more credible rumour, good info, thanks.
But still, a long way to go?
I'm keeping my hopes up, you never know?
About Garrido i have to add, they knew him in the PL when playing for Man City.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Fiorentina wants Ciani and wants to get rid of Wolski and Yakovenko (neither gets play time at the moment). Maybe a swap with one of them? (Yakovenko was doing good work in Belgium, haven't seen him in Italy playing yet - anybody did?).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
Fiorentina wants Ciani and wants to get rid of Wolski and Yakovenko (neither gets play time at the moment). Maybe a swap with one of them? (Yakovenko was doing good work in Belgium, haven't seen him in Italy playing yet - anybody did?).

I hope Lotito does not swap for neither?  I've seen Iakovenko play many times in Belgium, he never was able to get a first team place at Anderlecht.  So his transfer to Viola was quit a shock to me as to many people?  Lazio material?  No way in hell, i can vouch for this ...
Not saying he's no good, he is fast and has good technic but is totally not Serie A level.
Biglia was 'the man' at Anderlecht on MF but he is struggling in Italy.  I'm not writing him of, he can still be of use.  But Iakovenko will never reach Biglia's playing level, i think that says everything?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 20, 2014, 05:48:12 PM
I haven't seen a swap at Lazio since Oddo joined Milan and we took Foggia.

It's been a lot of years back since Lotito made actually a swap. I can'r see those rumors being true.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 20, 2014, 08:27:31 PM
some stories again about Ever Banega being the player Lotito wants to replace Hernanes
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 20, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
I like Banega and I'd rather have more Argentinians in the club because they do better in Serie A and are much more consistent while Brazilians play good when they are in samba mood. Banega used to be a trouble maker but I haven't heard any news about his problematic character in the last couple of years and I hope that this is a good sign. Valencia still have financial problems and I think they'll be ready to let him go for an amount of 8-10 mln.

Manchester United are thinking of making an offer for Hernanes (17 mln). Hmm, now that would be a surprise.

Milan are ready to offer 10 mln for Marchetti.

So, 27 mln might be in Lazio's bank in the next couple of days? With that kind of money a lot of people can buy some great players that can change Lazio's season but I doubt that Lotito is one of them...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 20, 2014, 08:55:05 PM
If this was true...

How much money Consigli and Bonaventura cost cost? Give them to Atalanta and replace Hernanes and Marchetti with some promising players...

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 20, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Milan don't have money, so would rule out that rumor about Marchetti.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 20, 2014, 09:05:36 PM
They don't have money but they need a new goalkeeper because Abbiati is 36 and we all know that he is injury-prone. If they really want Marchetti they will find money, I'm sure about that. I'm not so sure If I want to see Marchetti go to another Italian team.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 20, 2014, 09:38:56 PM
They don't have money but they need a new goalkeeper because Abbiati is 36 and we all know that he is injury-prone. If they really want Marchetti they will find money, I'm sure about that. I'm not so sure If I want to see Marchetti go to another Italian team.

It would be a nightmare to see Marchetti in a Milan shirt  :wuzz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 20, 2014, 09:40:44 PM
With the years passing by,I'm quite sure that Berisha will become more experienced and stable. I'm not afraid of losing Marchetti,there are a lot of good goalkeepers around the world...

No one is like Angelo Peruzzi though,my all time favourite...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 10:01:18 PM
Marchetti is very talented, nobody can't deny this and he did save us many many times last season.
This season he has never been consistant, offcourse he can redeam himself, i don't doubt that.
But there are many signs he's with his mind elsewhere already and there's also the salary-issue?
He's a star player at this club but not getting paid like one and he knows this.
Marchetti is 30 and will want to start earning the big money now i presume?
Is Lotito going to refuse an 10mill bid or more now that Berisha is starting to look confident?
Then this could also give Lotito the motivation not giving him his wanted salary-increase?

Only way Marchetti is going to stay is if he has developed a true love for the Lazio-colors and really wants to continue his career here with a little less of a salary-increase?
Personnaly i don't see that happening?

Never the less, it is going to be a disappointment if he leaves.  When he's in perfect shape (like last season) he can perform miracles and these a very much needed with our 'shaky' defense (if Ciani or Nova are playing).
I just hope he does not go to another italian club?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 20, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
A very strong rumour that Man Utd is going to put in an official bid for Hernanes?  And when i comes to Utd not a lot of 'bull' rumours go around, it's not like Chelsea or City who every star player is linked with every mercato?

Personnaly i don NOT want to see him go no matter what!  I know he's been in a dip, but his goal at Udinese made me go nuts and he can still do this many times!  He can still do very much for Lazio and he clearly loves the club.

But will Lotito refuse if Utd comes up with 20mill or more like he wants, eventough he's saying he doesn't want to sell him?  And also knowing that next year he could leave for free?  Is Hernanes going te be able to refuse the most traditional club in the PL and a dubble salary? 

If he actually does leave and goes to the PL, i would rather want to see him at Utd then at City or Chelsea or Tottenham.  Those are money-clubs and money cannot buy tradition and history like Utd has!

Also, i really do NOT ever want to see him play against Lazio at another Serie A team!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 20, 2014, 10:37:21 PM
I would not sell marchetti for 10 mil as i think berisha is not good enough and we will need a new goalie. A good goalie will be tough to find for a good price in 10 days.

Hernanes? If to manchester and if for 20 mil, sure. But not to another serie a club. Like reja said, hernanes is more than we see on the field, he is our leader weather he plays good or not. Unless reja believes in felipe anderson...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 20, 2014, 10:53:12 PM
My problem with selling Hernanes is that I fear Lotito will spend maybe 1/3 of the money on a new player
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 20, 2014, 11:12:53 PM
A very strong rumour that Man Utd is going to put in an official bid for Hernanes?  And when i comes to Utd not a lot of 'bull' rumours go around, it's not like Chelsea or City who every star player is linked with every mercato?

Personnaly i don NOT want to see him go no matter what!  I know he's been in a dip, but his goal at Udinese made me go nuts and he can still do this many times!  He can still do very much for Lazio and he clearly loves the club.

But will Lotito refuse if Utd comes up with 20mill or more like he wants, eventough he's saying he doesn't want to sell him?  And also knowing that next year he could leave for free?  Is Hernanes going te be able to refuse the most traditional club in the PL and a dubble salary? 

If he actually does leave and goes to the PL, i would rather want to see him at Utd then at City or Chelsea or Tottenham.  Those are money-clubs and money cannot buy tradition and history like Utd has!

Also, i really do NOT ever want to see him play against Lazio at another Serie A team!

United are being linked to every midfielder going at the moment, even Matic's name was mentioned a few weeks back. Moyes (as a former centre back) went to the Cagliari v Juve game to get a closer look at Astori and the papers/internet went mental with nonsensical stories linking them to all three Juve midfielders, none of which would ever go there.

The same seems to be happening to Hernanes, every couple of days it's a new team. United are crying out for a creative midfielder + Hernanes is being linked to a load of clubs = nonsense story that gets Man Utd fans clicking.

Last of all, Hernanes isn't nearly good enough for Man Utd, hell, on a week to week basis he doesn't do enough for us. His little dressing room pep talk is all well and good but if he wants to prove he's committed to Lazio, sign a new deal and be done with it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: zekipula on January 20, 2014, 11:20:36 PM
My problem with selling Hernanes is that I fear Lotito will spend maybe 1/3 of the money on a new player
i think maybe 1/4 :)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 21, 2014, 03:05:19 AM
Marseille want Vinicius? Stupidity on their part.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 21, 2014, 03:40:41 AM
If this was true...

How much money Consigli and Bonaventura cost cost? Give them to Atalanta and replace Hernanes and Marchetti with some promising players...

Great idea.

Juventus are being linked with Vidic and Evra next season, pushing Martin Caceres further out of the first team picture. He'd be great for us, considering he's capable in every defensive position and our injury prone defenders.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 21, 2014, 03:48:11 AM
Just read the article on the home page stating that one Djordjevic signs his precontract, Lazio's interest in Quagliarella will end; why? Floccari will leave this window, Klose is going, that means come the summer we'll have the Serb and Perea. I'd hope at least one forward will be signed this window.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 21, 2014, 05:34:42 AM
Personnaly i don NOT want to see him go no matter what!  I know he's been in a dip, but his goal at Udinese made me go nuts and he can still do this many times!  He can still do very much for Lazio and he clearly loves the club.

If Hernanes clearly loves the club, he would have signed a new contract by now. I believe he can still be usefull for Lazio, but if there is really an offer worth 17mil, just sell him now, it's better than we lose him for nothing.

Caceres would be a good addition for us, and also Cannavaro, and i believe both of them wouldn't cost much.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Terzino on January 21, 2014, 06:26:00 AM
Just read the article on the home page stating that one Djordjevic signs his precontract, Lazio's interest in Quagliarella will end; why? Floccari will leave this window, Klose is going, that means come the summer we'll have the Serb and Perea. I'd hope at least one forward will be signed this window.

It could mean that they're considering giving Tounkara a promotion to the first team. I don't there's any official word related to that?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 21, 2014, 06:55:52 AM
According to Football Italia, not only Hernanes is linked to Man Utd, Ac Milan are now looking into Marchetti and are willing to offer 10M for him.. quite cheap i think? or is that standard for NT goal keepers?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 21, 2014, 08:46:50 AM
10 mln is a good offer for a goalkeeper. I just checked this stat table and most of the goalkeeper transfer fees are aroud 8-12 mln so 10 is ok for Marchetti.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/transferrekorde-international/transferrekorde/transfers_alle_default_default_Torwart_alle_alle.html (http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/transferrekorde-international/transferrekorde/transfers_alle_default_default_Torwart_alle_alle.html)



When I checked the daily news about Lazio I almost fell of my chair... Lazio is linked to Senderos from Fulham. Oh God, please no! This is is pure s*** and by pure I mean that I'd rather stay for 3 more years with Biava and Dias.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ArmLaziale on January 21, 2014, 09:29:57 AM
I would sell both Marchetti and Hernanes for the above mentionned sums, then get Consigli and some vice Hernanes, I don't like players beeing ghosts for 10 matches and then shining in one. If he (Hernanes) haven't signed a contract yet, it is clear we have to SELL him before it;s too late.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 21, 2014, 09:41:31 AM
It's interesting that people want to see new players instead of maybe leaving ones...

I personally see it totally different ... except the CB part.
We need a new younger one. A Serie A proven one who can directly jump into our first eleven.

If Marchetti leaves, i see Berisha as our number one until the summer.
If Hernanes leaves, there is Anderson, and Mauri who can play that part.

In my opinion we only need a CB who will also be part of the first eleven next season too.
The rest (goalkeeper, striker ...) ... no problem to buy them in the summer! Take the money now, get a defender and that's it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 10:17:57 AM
Personnaly i don NOT want to see him go no matter what!  I know he's been in a dip, but his goal at Udinese made me go nuts and he can still do this many times!  He can still do very much for Lazio and he clearly loves the club.

If Hernanes clearly loves the club, he would have signed a new contract by now. I believe he can still be usefull for Lazio, but if there is really an offer worth 17mil, just sell him now, it's better than we lose him for nothing.

Caceres would be a good addition for us, and also Cannavaro, and i believe both of them wouldn't cost much.

I think he would have signed his new contract if Lotito would have presented one with a salary-increase?

And i agree with you 100%, Caceres and Cannavaro would be a dream for us!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
Just read the article on the home page stating that one Djordjevic signs his precontract, Lazio's interest in Quagliarella will end; why? Floccari will leave this window, Klose is going, that means come the summer we'll have the Serb and Perea. I'd hope at least one forward will be signed this window.

It could mean that they're considering giving Tounkara a promotion to the first team. I don't there's any official word related to that?

Yes, there is.  There was an article with interview, Reja has spoken to Tounkara about giving him a shot very soon!  So i also think next summer, 3 strikers, Djordjevic-Perea-Tounkara.  Don't think this will be good enough?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 21, 2014, 10:28:52 AM
Something about the Hernanes situation doesn't make sense. He says he loves the club and is open to staying, yet there's no contract offer. Lotito would have to be the world's biggest idiot and the most flippant person with money that you've ever come across for him to neither sell Hernanes or extend his contract.

I can't help but feel that there's something we don't know about. I also feel that way about Marchetti.

The difficulty with the mercato is that we have a wage bill that we just cannot sustain, and yet we were prepared to wrap up a deal worth about 30 million over 5 years for Yilmaz in the summer. There's obviously money there, but since we are not on course for Europe at the moment, I don't think we can spend it.

So we're sort of in a situation where we either cash in our prized assets, sacrifice Europe, and start from scratch or we keep what we've got for 6 months and hope that we sneak 5th or 6th place. Either way, Reja won't be happy but I guess he never is.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 21, 2014, 10:37:10 AM
Because of the situation, i say that it is important to get a new CB, and cash in what we can!

Give the younger ones the chance for the rest of the season, and buy wisely in the summer with the money we got in the winter.

If you sell Marchetti and Hernanes, we would still have a good squad. I would go so far to say that there would be no real difference. Just a new CB. That's it.

The real problem is that people (fans) will not like that. If someone leaves, they want that we bring in new players.
And so, pressure will rise....more and more.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 10:52:03 AM
I think we underestimate the motivational contribution of Marchetti and Hernanes. To have an italian and a brazilian NT in your team adds a lot of respect.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 21, 2014, 10:55:08 AM
I think we underestimate the motivational contribution of Marchetti and Hernanes. To have an italian and a brazilian NT in your team adds a lot of respect.

agree, but we can also take a look on the other side of the coin ... both are not in the first eleven or their NT. Both are only subs.
Candreva is also in the italian NT, and he is playing more.
Lulic is in the NT of Bosnia, Klose of Germany, Tata at the Urus, Biglia of Argentina, Onazi of Nigeria.

...and all are playing there in the first eleven ... most of the time.
To be honest ... Marchetti and Hernanes should take a look at their teammates NT career ...

I also don't have the best feeling to sell both, but we need changes and money for changes. Both are replaceable. Hernanes more than Marchetti in my opinion, but 10 mill. for a 30 years old goalkeeper is a huge sum.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 21, 2014, 10:57:50 AM
I wouldn't sell Antrax to those bastards Milan. I hope Lotito never does bussiness with them, I really hate that club.

I think it's naive to think we can sell two NT players and replace them with a GK from Swedish League and one young, unproven brazilian or one 35 years old Mauri who has not played since May 25th. IF we sell them, I expect good players to replace them. Even Reja said he expect new players in January.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 11:01:48 AM
I agree with that, but it's one thing to be in Nigeria, Bosnia or Albania's NT and one thing in Italy or Brazil. Sure, we have Candreva, we have Klose till summer, we have Biglia. But Marchetti and Hernanes are in my opinion the leaders of the group. Reja said if: when he announced Hernanes that he will be only a sub with Udinese, Hernanes's reaction was to got to his team mates and scream to them that they can win. That's what we need right now. Atitude. Motivation. Biglia said after the game that Hernanes is the best and strongest player we have. I was supporting his sale but I think that I might have underestimated his role a bit. Marchetti? He was our strongest player last year and sure, he had some poor games but the team was also poor. Overall, he was the best goalie since Peruzzi for me just for the way he offered safety in the back. Would be a pitty to lose him to a rival.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 11:03:58 AM
I wouldn't sell Antrax to those bastards Milan. I hope Lotito never does bussiness with them, I really hate that club.

I think it's naive to think we can sell two NT players and replace them with a GK from Swedish League and one young, unproven brazilian or one 35 years old Mauri who has not played since May 25th. IF we sell them, I expect good players to replace them. Even Reja said he expect new players in January.

Fully agree.

People praie Berisha but to me he seemed rather unstable so far. He might improve, but it is a bit risky. And I also suspect that if we sell Hernanes we count on Mauri's comeback. I dont see Lotito spending any penny from those 30 mil on serious players. We might get some end of contract defender in case we sell Ciani, that's about it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 21, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
I wouldn't sell Antrax to those bastards Milan. I hope Lotito never does bussiness with them, I really hate that club.

I think it's naive to think we can sell two NT players and replace them with a GK from Swedish League and one young, unproven brazilian or one 35 years old Mauri who has not played since May 25th. IF we sell them, I expect good players to replace them. Even Reja said he expect new players in January.

I agree with the Milan part :beer:, but for what did we buy Anderson?
And only because Berisha played in Sweden, he is not a bad one. I'm also not that happy with his performances, but as i wrote: "UNTIL THE SUMMER"! Totally clear!! Until now, i also don't trust Berisha, but i would risk it until the summer.

What i mean - cash in now when you get the money before you stand here in the summer without the money...
Get through this time without players who replace them, and do some business in the summer!

drazvan,
I also don't want to see Marchetti leaving, but 10 mill.?! Take and run. Hernanes... i also read the interviews, but i want to see Hernanes on the field doing it like against Udinese EVERY WEEK, and not 1 or 2 times per 10 weeks!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 21, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
I think Lotito allready have some money now, remember he wanted to spend alot on Yilmaz, so those money Lazio have. I don't see why we have to sell now to have money in the summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 11:27:03 AM
I believe in Felipe Anderson, I dont believe anymore in Ederson. If we should sell one of the 3 brazilians, it should be Ederson not Hernanes in my opinion. Sitting there doing nothing for 2.2 mil euro per year.

Tell me which goalie would you buy for 10 mil euro. Agazzi or Consigli already cost 7-8 and we know we cannot sign them...It costed us a lot of time to find a goalie like Marchetti...we've wasted 7.5 plus 6-7 mil on salaries on Carrizzo, we were lucky to sell Muslera for good cash (but we did pay 3-4 mil for him)...I think it will take us 2-3 years to find a good goalie after we realize that the albanians we have are not good enough...

Unrelated - Diamanti close to leaving to China for 7 mil euro (to Lippi's team)...sad if that happens...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: mamangfreak on January 21, 2014, 11:54:05 AM
how about players in lazio Rumours at transfermarkt.co.uk, they really good....
especially Martin Hinteregger and Raffael.
and Nemanja Pejcinovic, he contract end in summer.
 :band04:

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
how about players in lazio Rumours at transfermarkt.co.uk, they really good....
especially Martin Hinteregger and Raffael.
and Nemanja Pejcinovic, he contract end in summer.
 :band04:

fantasy.

news is that norwich offers 2.5 mil for Ciani
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
I agree about Ederson.  2.2 mill a year for only subbing and being injured half the time.  Lotito should put some of this money in an improved contract for Hernanes to get him on full motivation.  Selling Ederson is the smart thing to do, but apperently Lotito is a huge fan of his, the only reason he wanted him here anyway!
We would have Hernanes and Anderson for that position, wich is enough.

A really good CB, 2 would be better but that won't happen.

A good RB as a Konko sub, he would play more than half the season anyway so he has to be good.
Cav or Pere are not sufficient.

If this would happen before mercato's end i would be quit satisfied.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 12:34:57 PM
how about players in lazio Rumours at transfermarkt.co.uk, they really good....
especially Martin Hinteregger and Raffael.
and Nemanja Pejcinovic, he contract end in summer.
 :band04:

fantasy.

news is that norwich offers 2.5 mil for Ciani

Would have to agree, Hinteregger especially is a huge youth-talent.
2.5mill for Ciani, this would be a los of 1.5mill, but still is would say take it and run .......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 21, 2014, 12:41:31 PM
Lazio doesn't need youth talents and doesn't need veterans who are 34+ y/o. Lazio needs players who are in their best playing years - 25-28.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: H A S on January 21, 2014, 12:55:37 PM
how about players in lazio Rumours at transfermarkt.co.uk, they really good....
especially Martin Hinteregger and Raffael.
and Nemanja Pejcinovic, he contract end in summer.
 :band04:

fantasy.

news is that norwich offers 2.5 mil for Ciani

Would have to agree, Hinteregger especially is a huge youth-talent.
2.5mill for Ciani, this would be a los of 1.5mill, but still is would say take it and run .......

I remember that we bought Ciani for 1,3 mil euros. So it would be 1,2 mil euro profit.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 21, 2014, 01:08:02 PM
Can't remember exact numbers but no way we paid €4mil for Ciani in the end.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 21, 2014, 01:09:50 PM
Some articles in danish media today saying that we are considering a loan deal for Bendtner  :wow:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 02:12:11 PM
Can't remember exact numbers but no way we paid €4mil for Ciani in the end.

I had that 4mill in my memory somewhere, let's say i'm glad that i'm mistaken!
All the more reason to sell sell sell, if the rumour would materialise offcourse .....   ????
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 02:16:46 PM
Some articles in danish media today saying that we are considering a loan deal for Bendtner  :wow:

Bendtner is out with an ankle injury?
I think this i why Wenger wants a sub for Giroud this mercato because Bendtner is out?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 02:36:28 PM
I've read that we try to use Floc to get Simone Zaza. Would be a great deal if we make it, but surely Sassuolo won't let him go cheap unless they gave up hope of staying in Serie A.

Not sure what everybody has against Icardi, I would welcome him and if we HAVE TO sell Hernanes to Inter, I dont see why not get Icardi + some cash. Might prove a hell of a deal. Just in case we have to.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: LofL on January 21, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Even if the media don't care about reality when they create rumours we can atleast try...

Stop trying to say we should buy Berardi and Zaza from Sassulo. They're both Juventus players. So in other words, no chance.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 21, 2014, 02:43:02 PM
Can't remember exact numbers but no way we paid €4mil for Ciani in the end.

I had that 4mill in my memory somewhere, let's say i'm glad that i'm mistaken!
All the more reason to sell sell sell, if the rumour would materialise offcourse .....   ????

Certain sites have the transfer listed as being 4 million, but I'm pretty sure the official figure that Lazio disclosed was under 2 million.

There is also debate as to how much we bought Biglia for. It was an undisclosed fee and I've heard everything from 5 million to 8 million.

I've read that we try to use Floc to get Simone Zaza. Would be a great deal if we make it, but surely Sassuolo won't let him go cheap unless they gave up hope of staying in Serie A.

You could argue that if their sole objective is to remain in Serie A (which it should be), in 6 months, taking Floccari on for Zaza may be the best move they make all winter.

But Juventus own 50% of Zaza and I don't see what they get out of it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 02:58:49 PM
true true...sorry...i've forgot about that...juve owns 50% of Zaza and the last thing we want is co-owning a player with juve.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
About the Biglia price-debat, i know this reasonbly detailed.
As i am a Belgian i followed the transfer closely from Anderlecht to Lazio.

It started as a bid between 6 and 7mill, then is was quiet for a while.
Afterwords i know for sure the bid was rised by Lotito to push the deal to completion.

Let's say, i'm 90% sure Lotito ended up paying 7mill+.
I can't remeber the exact amout, but it was defenitly more then 7mill!

This was a very big surprise here, nobody expected more then 5mill would ever be paid?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
It seems reasonably sure that Parma has picked up Schelloto in a deal with Inter and Sassuolo involving several players.

So the rumour of him being wanted by Reja to reform him as a RB is can also be swept under the table.

Also it seems Milan have sold Muntari to Hull and will use this extra cash to bid for Marchetti?

Well, lots of Serie A teams seem to be doing there business at the moment, ......  :whistle:   :whistle:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 21, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
We seem to be the only club in Italy right now not doing business, funny when we're also the club in Italy who has been the biggest flop this season in the Serie A.

but we all know, the mercato doesn't open until the 31st of January. all hail the grande Lotito!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 21, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
Would like to know reason for Lotito's "last-day activity". Why always that last day?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
we were not the biggest flop in serie a. there is always milan. plus udinese has a poor season.
as for us not doing business, we do - just nothing is final yet and not in the news :)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 04:48:09 PM
we were not the biggest flop in serie a. there is always milan. plus udinese has a poor season.
as for us not doing business, we do - just nothing is final yet and not in the news :)

True, i think Milan is the biggest disappointment this season?
And yes, we always get the press-rumours and nothing concrete.
Lotito is always silent against the press during mercato's and denies everything, false or true.
It's always kind of a surprise in the end (ex. Ciani, Novaretti), more like a 'bad' surprise though?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 21, 2014, 04:51:07 PM
Quote
“If I was asked tomorrow about [Davide] Astori or others, I would let them go,” Cellino told L’Unione Sarda ”I cannot protect my lads, and so I might have to give them all away, which is what happened with Nainggolan.”

“Radja was wanted by Paris Saint Germain and Manchester City, but I succumbed to Roma. He did not want to leave, but he had to.

“Zenit [St. Petersburg] were willing to pay €25m last summer, Juventus offered €20m and were prepared to let me keep him until the end of the season, like with [Fabian] O’Neill.

“And the next day, Radja came home and extended his contract, but he could not stay here. How can he grow in a team with no ambition?

Some interesting words from Cellino. Time for business with Cagliari?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 04:54:47 PM
in my opinion what will happen (but again my fantasy) will be that we will sell Ciani and Floccari, keep Hernanes and Marchetti and only sign a defender. Probably a very surprising name. Not sure if a good or a bad surprise. I think Reja will be fine with  Klose, Perea and Keita in front. Maybe he will reintegrate Scullinwa or so. I dont think we afford to sell Hernanes now with Ederson out for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 21, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
Quote
“If I was asked tomorrow about [Davide] Astori or others, I would let them go,” Cellino told L’Unione Sarda ”I cannot protect my lads, and so I might have to give them all away, which is what happened with Nainggolan.”

“Radja was wanted by Paris Saint Germain and Manchester City, but I succumbed to Roma. He did not want to leave, but he had to.

“Zenit [St. Petersburg] were willing to pay €25m last summer, Juventus offered €20m and were prepared to let me keep him until the end of the season, like with [Fabian] O’Neill.

“And the next day, Radja came home and extended his contract, but he could not stay here. How can he grow in a team with no ambition?

Some interesting words from Cellino. Time for business with Cagliari?

Please understand that we will not sign Astori.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 21, 2014, 05:24:01 PM
Would like to know reason for Lotito's "last-day activity". Why always that last day?

it's like booking a hotel room ...if you book before a couple of months or early enough u will pay high..while if you pay the last day and they still have room... you may get some discount !! :razz: :razz: :vcool:

the final day is a busy for dead wood. and since we always love to get some bargains rather than what we really NEED. that's just the way it is her. things will never be like the old lazio (cragnottis) under lotito.

and what about this stadium of his!! what seems to be the problem??
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 05:48:55 PM
in my opinion what will happen (but again my fantasy) will be that we will sell Ciani and Floccari, keep Hernanes and Marchetti and only sign a defender. Probably a very surprising name. Not sure if a good or a bad surprise. I think Reja will be fine with  Klose, Perea and Keita in front. Maybe he will reintegrate Scullinwa or so. I dont think we afford to sell Hernanes now with Ederson out for the rest of the season.

Ederson out for the rest of the season, another long injury-spell!
I'm guessing this will never end, it's even worse then with our other 'glass-man' Konko?
Offcourse i feel bad for him, not his fault and especially now he was starting to look a bit better under Reja (sub against Udinese).
I like both these players and i would feel bad to see them leave, but soberly speaking they should both be sold.  They cost way to much to be injured half the season every year.
We have Hernanes (hopefully, if he stays) and Anderson, don't really need Ederson, but Konko is a smart and gifted player, we would have to get a very decent RB?

Again, according to Astori, this is indeed pure fantasy, he will end up playing for Juve, Utd, City or some club like that.  Offcourse he would be perfect for us but it will never happen!
For Cagliari players, Sau & Ibarbo would be more in our price-range.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
A rumour that Lotito enquired about Antonelli.
Genoa still ows us money for Matu and Bizarri, so this could actually become something concrete.
I really hope so, he's a very decent LB who also can play RB, too bad he is not a real RB though?

On the other hand this could mean having Antonelli or Lulic on the left, moving Radu to CB.
Radu on CB this would also be an 'addition' to the squad?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 21, 2014, 05:58:54 PM
A rumour that Lotito enquired about Antonelli.
Genoa still ows us money for Matu and Bizarri, so this could actually become something concrete.
I really hope so, he's a very decent LB who also can play RB, too bad he is not a real RB though?

On the other hand this could mean having Antonelli or Lulic on the left, moving Radu to CB.
Radu on CB this would also be an 'addition' to the squad?
Knowing Lotito's logic, could be.  :supsmile: But, this could help Reja to maintain 3-5-2.
Vucinic - Guarin swap called off, so Inter can say "goodbye" to Hernanes, too.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 21, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
Antonelli is most definitely on our wishlist, you would think. He was a target when he was not really very good, and now he's very good and still in our price range.

If Juventus are genuinely keen on Lulic, that could happen, but I think we're talking eight figures. Antonelli would be the obvious replacement.

Even if we're not selling Lulic, the left side is becoming a problem area with Radu's fitness troubles. Cavanda, Pereirinha and Konko can all play there, but we've trouble keeping two of the three fit.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 06:07:15 PM
With Thohir pulling the plug on the swap deal, Guarin is treating to go on strike if he doesn't get this transfer?

God, it's like a 12y old, so glad he didn't end up at Lazio!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 21, 2014, 06:17:35 PM
Guarin is immature. Radu should teach him a lesson.  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 21, 2014, 06:27:37 PM
Not sure what everybody has against Icardi, I would welcome him and if we HAVE TO sell Hernanes to Inter, I dont see why not get Icardi + some cash. Might prove a hell of a deal. Just in case we have to.

For me it's because whenever you see a photo of the guy on CdS or any other major paper, it is a topless selfie. Don't need guys like that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 21, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
Please understand that we will not sign Astori.

Who said I was talking about Astori? Cagliari have other good players that could be on Lazio's radar. I know that Astori won't come to Lazio and honestly I don't want him because he is a bit overrated.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: zekipula on January 21, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
Astori is a good player, but i am not convinced that is right choice for Lazio  :Esflag:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 21, 2014, 06:58:42 PM
Astori is (so) good only on Manager.  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Laziofin11 on January 21, 2014, 07:18:04 PM
I got bad feeling about this transfer window.. Only rumours from player to player.
Not too many days to sign players.. I think same old shit Lotito last day fax machine problems will happen.. :wuzz: hopefully not!!! Lets hope for the best!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2014, 07:56:22 PM
I got bad feeling about this transfer window.. Only rumours from player to player.
Not too many days to sign players.. I think same old shit Lotito last day fax machine problems will happen.. :wuzz: hopefully not!!! Lets hope for the best!!

This is not an exception, this has been thesame almost the entire Lotito-era!
The fax-thing was a one time occurance with Anderson.

Lotito never uses the press during mercato's that's why everyone always has a bad feeling (sadly these bad feelings come true a lot), and this is increased by all the bull... rumours created by the press, nothing more ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 21, 2014, 08:01:45 PM
I think all of us should have learned by now that we don't have to expect big things from Lotito in the transfer windows because we will be disappointed. I expect nothing from a year and a half and I'm a lot calmer when it comes to thinking about Lazio's new transfers.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 21, 2014, 09:05:12 PM
I think all dictionarys in the world needs to be changed.

If someone looks up the meaning of the word being passive, the name Lotito should be there.

Most passive president in the Serie A.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: HITMAN on January 21, 2014, 10:01:54 PM
Source from croatia is saying that we are very close to sign Pasalic from Hajduk. He said something intresting: First Lazio need to finalize transfer for one player so that they can sign Pasalic. Pasalic is
NON eu player. So it seems non EU will go. Who? Dias? It seems Reja wnat him to stay. OR

Hernanes will be sold! This is more likely!

I just want one good attacker and defender. I do not care. I can not watch him anymore. Just sick of him and Candreva. One goal against Udinese does not mean anything. Just sell him and buy new players.

FORZA LAZIO
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: igor_istria on January 21, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
Source from croatia is saying that we are very close to sign Pasalic from Hajduk. He said something intresting: First Lazio need to finalize transfer for one player so that they can sign Pasalic. Pasalic is
NON eu player. So it seems non EU will go. Who? Dias? It seems Reja wnat him to stay. OR

Hernanes will be sold! This is more likely!

I just want one good attacker and defender. I do not care. I can not watch him anymore. Just sick of him and Candreva. One goal against Udinese does not mean anything. Just sell him and buy new players.

FORZA LAZIO

Pašalić is eu.  They are saying that we need to sell some player before we complete transfer for him. It has nothing whit non eu place this time.  I dont know what is their source for this info.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Laziofin11 on January 21, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
I dont know lot about Lotito but it seems he is more interested about money from Lazio not about team glory. He seems quite rich but he dont want spend any more for the club.. Money we got but idiot president is shit. So Lotito is okay with that Lazio struggles at Serie A.. No passion for football. I really dont get it. Why not spend little more and be more hard working.
Sorry for offtopic but im always so have ****ing pissed off at every transfer window.
I know it happens every time with Lotito but i always hope for the best without resoults.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: mihajlovic010 on January 21, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Source from croatia is saying that we are very close to sign Pasalic from Hajduk. He said something intresting: First Lazio need to finalize transfer for one player so that they can sign Pasalic. Pasalic is
NON eu player.

Croatia is EU now so I guess that Pasalic is too... Anyway, I don't know anything about this guy and I think that we need players who can help us NOW rather than young & promising players...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 21, 2014, 11:36:02 PM
While Merda signed Naiggolan and Bastos,Lotito didn't sign anyone. Too bad that the competition against the Rome teams won't go up because presidente Lotito does not want to see Lazio more competitive than a mid place finish... Or in a higher note,Europa League qualification...

Merda is aiming higher...we are not. And that hurts me a lot.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 21, 2014, 11:38:30 PM
Well, Reja was promised reinforcements but as far as I can see they're treating Reja and the fans like mushrooms. Lotito is absolutely maddening.

That is true Under, the shit heads want it more then we do. Just look at today. What a great victory against a great team, by playing simple football.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 22, 2014, 12:35:07 AM
I just can't understand this strategy with waiting until the very last day. How many times did it not work for us so far?.smart people learn from their mistakes, sadly lotito is not a smart person.

When you wait until the end, only the leftovers remain.

For me its slowly going from frustration to sheer hate for lotito. I am starting to understand the Italian laziali who don't show up for matches anymore. Why should they put their money into his pocket?

I am convinced we will get no one in this mercato or some last second desperate signing.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 22, 2014, 12:41:50 AM
@ilsemprelaziale

Relax, we will get somebody. Real question is who will that guy(s) be. You know, not the same Quagliarella and Stuani.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 22, 2014, 03:09:11 AM
No matter how good this Pasalic is, we shouldn't be focusing on bringing in players like him (young, unproven in big leagues, etc.) We need a striker and defenders (and a new owner if possible).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 22, 2014, 09:14:26 AM
 In the last hours of mercato we will sign some "promising" player(s).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 22, 2014, 10:08:26 AM
Pasalic is great and it would be a fantastic signing. Let's not forget that some time ago we were screaming to build a team from young players. This is a good chance. This season is basically over: we can achieve a good place in Serie A anyway (Reja will invent some results), we can give a shot at Coppa and EL. I cannot see a better moment than this for building a team for next seasonS. I would say give Cavanda, Elez, Onazi, Keita, Felipe Anderson, Perea more and more chances and bring young players to complete the team. We won't build further with Ciani, Dias, Biava, Mauri, Floccari, Sculli or Klose. In that aspect, I would prefer bringing players like Pasalic. If possible a young defender and a striker too.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: usampa on January 22, 2014, 10:10:49 AM
We sign only champions phantom :)

isempre, dumb people learn from their own mistakes... smart people learn from the mistakes of the others, so by this logic where exactly goes our presidenté  :wow:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 22, 2014, 10:18:52 AM
Don't worry guys... Lotito's champion is coming!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 22, 2014, 10:38:13 AM
Maybe Lotito himself is the champion..  :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 22, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
don't envy merda's mercato. they have the money, cause theysold some players. only marquinho got them 35 mil. but 2 more seasons with no trophy or european success and the americans will pack their bags and leave them with a bunch of high paid stars and eventually they will sell everything.

i prefer the financial stability for now.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 22, 2014, 12:36:31 PM
Quote
Lazio are interested in Juventus' Mirko Vucinic, but the forward would turn them down due to his past history as a Roma player.

Really? These journalist rumours are on the verge of reaching a new stupidity level.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
don't envy merda's mercato. they have the money, cause theysold some players. only marquinho got them 35 mil. but 2 more seasons with no trophy or european success and the americans will pack their bags and leave them with a bunch of high paid stars and eventually they will sell everything.

i prefer the financial stability for now.

I also prefer financial stability, it doesn't create fantasy' who can fall apart in not time.
Yes Lotito is not aiming higher, and offcourse i don't agree with him, but it's not like Merda is heading to be the next Man City?  Lazio could also realise those kind of deals with a good reinforcement on loan or buying half of a star player (like Nainggolan and Bastos), but that's not Lotito' thing.  This i have to say i partially agree with, owning a half of a player and depending on some loan-deal is not going to create a good future?
Like 'Eagle' said, those kind of squads can collapse in no time, i'm all for stability.
Lotito CAN do more i suppose, and i also wonder why he's not motivated for this ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 12:54:03 PM
Quote
Lazio are interested in Juventus' Mirko Vucinic, but the forward would turn them down due to his past history as a Roma player.

Really? These journalist rumours are on the verge of reaching a new stupidity level.

My god yes, how stupid can you be to think some fan's are actually going to believe this???
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
While Merda signed Naiggolan and Bastos,Lotito didn't sign anyone. Too bad that the competition against the Rome teams won't go up because presidente Lotito does not want to see Lazio more competitive than a mid place finish... Or in a higher note,Europa League qualification...

Merda is aiming higher...we are not. And that hurts me a lot.

Yes it's very painfull.  I wonder what Reja's demands are for this mercato from Lotito?
I know it's probably hoping to much, but something in my mind says Lotito can not afford to let Reja down again and again.  I hope this Antonelli-thing can materialise and then on to a new CB, this absolutely has to happen this mercato?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 22, 2014, 01:10:05 PM
Merda is aiming higher and will fail big times! I hope we get 3 games against them - would be amazing to destroy them!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 01:11:15 PM
I dont know lot about Lotito but it seems he is more interested about money from Lazio not about team glory. He seems quite rich but he dont want spend any more for the club.. Money we got but idiot president is shit. So Lotito is okay with that Lazio struggles at Serie A.. No passion for football. I really dont get it. Why not spend little more and be more hard working.
Sorry for offtopic but im always so have have funing pissed off at every transfer window.
I know it happens every time with Lotito but i always hope for the best without resoults.

Lotito couldn't even put up 6mill straight to bid for Quag, so it's very clear he does NOT have the necessary financial strength!  The problem is he spends money he does have on wrong signings (Ciani, Pereirinha for example).  Also he just splashed out 8-9mill for Anderson, the only problem is he's not ready to dispense an attacking line on Serie A level?  But in the end this was not a bad signing, pretty sure he will evolve to be a great player. Yes, we need players no who can help out right away, i'm curious, there's still enough time .....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 22, 2014, 01:13:24 PM
We sign only champions phantom :)

isempre, dumb people learn from their own mistakes... smart people learn from the mistakes of the others, so by this logic where exactly goes our presidenté  :wow:

I assume that our presidente never learned a damn thing... he's still doing the same old chit that been going on for the last decade. :wuzz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 01:18:35 PM
Source from croatia is saying that we are very close to sign Pasalic from Hajduk. He said something intresting: First Lazio need to finalize transfer for one player so that they can sign Pasalic. Pasalic is
NON eu player. So it seems non EU will go. Who? Dias? It seems Reja wnat him to stay. OR

Hernanes will be sold! This is more likely!

I just want one good attacker and defender. I do not care. I can not watch him anymore. Just sick of him and Candreva. One goal against Udinese does not mean anything. Just sell him and buy new players.

FORZA LAZIO

There has been interest in Pasalic but nothing concrete as far as i know (and he is an EU player!).  Would be very strange to buy him now, Reja wants immediate reinforcements for Serie A football.  Most of the Serie A defences can handle these kind of young motivated players, we don't need this guy now.  Hernanes needs to stay to provide experience and stability and also Candreva is getting better every match Reja has him under his wing.  Petko's reign was very bad for both of these players, it's not something you can repair overnight?  Pasalic would be a good transfer offcourse, but only as a prospect, maybe for next season?  Young talents can't just come in and take over the squad, that's pure fantasy, look at Anderson for example, and he is so much more talented then this Pasalic?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 22, 2014, 01:27:32 PM
SkySport says Tare inquired about the availability of Undinese`s Zielinski as a consequence of Ederon`s season ending injury.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
Merda is aiming higher and will fail big times! I hope we get 3 games against them - would be amazing to destroy them!

Yes, a part of me also hopes to get those 3 derby's and set them straight.  We are starting to get a bit more luck and Reja seems to be getting the boys in line?
But on the other hand, Merda's at full strength and form and we 'once again' have fitness issues and injury problems for first team players: Konko-Radu-Gonzalez.
I know the game always has to be played and anything can happen, and offcourse Napoli is still in the way and i see them as a bigger problem to deal with then Merda right now?
We will have to see, you never know?  Forza Lazio !!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 22, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
To get a replacement for a player who did not feature that much is a bit extreme...Mauri is back and i am sure that he will be fitter and more used than Ederson. Plus we should promote Felipe Anderson and Keita more. even Biglia and Onazi can be used more advanced if desperately needed. I think we are well covered, no need for further subs unless a promissing player for the future (like Pasalic). Now if we sell Hernanes on the other hand...

I am still a bit dissapointed that while we are linked to all kind of players (Pasalic, Quag, Zielinski, etc) I have not see a single credible rumor about a defender. If Ciani is gonna leave, the first thing we will need will be a solid defender. Biava and Dias will not play more than 50% of the coming games, Nova is not yet ready (if he will ever be) and Cana seems not to be used as a defender by Reja.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
To get a replacement for a player who did not feature that much is a bit extreme...Mauri is back and i am sure that he will be fitter and more used than Ederson. Plus we should promote Felipe Anderson and Keita more. even Biglia and Onazi can be used more advanced if desperately needed. I think we are well covered, no need for further subs unless a promissing player for the future (like Pasalic). Now if we sell Hernanes on the other hand...

I am still a bit dissapointed that while we are linked to all kind of players (Pasalic, Quag, Zielinski, etc) I have not see a single credible rumor about a defender. If Ciani is gonna leave, the first thing we will need will be a solid defender. Biava and Dias will not play more than 50% of the coming games, Nova is not yet ready (if he will ever be) and Cana seems not to be used as a defender by Reja.

I cannot agree with this more, exactly right.
Zielinsky is a great prospect and he's already quit used to play serie A now and then.
So he would be an asset for the future, but for the current squad it would not make a difference right now.  Candreva-Hernanes-Anderson-Keita already have these bases covered, unless one of them leaves or get's loaned out, then it would be different.  I would prefer Zielinksi over this reasonably unknown Pasalic offcourse?  I also think Reja will use Cana back on his old DM place again, so yes a CB is most necessary along with a good sub for Radu and/or Konko?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: piojo84 on January 22, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
Lazio looking at taking striker from Arsenal during this window

Lazio are looking into the possibility of signing Nicklas Bendtner from Arsenal during the current transfer window, according to Calciomercato. The plan, which Calciomercato call 'far from impossible' would see Lazio get the Denmark international for a small fee and is surely dependent on Arsenal themselves being able to bring someone in during January.

Bendtner hasn't had a bad season for Arsenal so far despite many fans insisting he'd never play for the club again, and not wanting him to. The confident front man has four goals in all competitions but is currently out with an ankle injury.

Whilst being injured he's shared photos with fans of him enjoying wine and a cigar after training and posted a photograph of himself in a swish Paris hotel room with actress Julie Zangenberg. Bendtner constantly wants to convince the world of his wonderful life and complete happiness.

A return to Italy would allow the player to put right his disastrous spell at Juventus which saw him score a total of one goal and receive widespread mockery. Injury played a part but there were many stories of Bendtner being well overweight when he turned up at the start of the loan period.

Lazio are currently 9th and could do with improving their goal scoring record if they're going to progress further up the table. They've only scored 26 goals in 20 games which is probably why they're looking at striking options.

imagine icardi n bendtner in our attack??  :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 22, 2014, 04:19:38 PM
Apparently we have offered Floc plus 1-2 mil euro for 50% of Belfodil (the other 50% is owned by Parma).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
Lazio looking at taking striker from Arsenal during this window

Lazio are looking into the possibility of signing Nicklas Bendtner from Arsenal during the current transfer window, according to Calciomercato. The plan, which Calciomercato call 'far from impossible' would see Lazio get the Denmark international for a small fee and is surely dependent on Arsenal themselves being able to bring someone in during January.

Bendtner hasn't had a bad season for Arsenal so far despite many fans insisting he'd never play for the club again, and not wanting him to. The confident front man has four goals in all competitions but is currently out with an ankle injury.

Whilst being injured he's shared photos with fans of him enjoying wine and a cigar after training and posted a photograph of himself in a swish Paris hotel room with actress Julie Zangenberg. Bendtner constantly wants to convince the world of his wonderful life and complete happiness.

A return to Italy would allow the player to put right his disastrous spell at Juventus which saw him score a total of one goal and receive widespread mockery. Injury played a part but there were many stories of Bendtner being well overweight when he turned up at the start of the loan period.

Lazio are currently 9th and could do with improving their goal scoring record if they're going to progress further up the table. They've only scored 26 goals in 20 games which is probably why they're looking at striking options.

imagine icardi n bendtner in our attack??  :beer:

He might be talented, but he has never been consistant.  Also i'm really not a fan of his attitude!
I would not mind if this stays a rumour, and thesame goes for Icardi.
Anyway according to football italia there's a possibilty that Juve are now back themselves to deal with Lazio regarding Quagliarella.  Would like this better?
Either way, getting a good CB and a decent RB/LB sub is so much more important?
Even if we only had Perea as striker in a manor speaking, if the MF provide the assists and create chances, the goals will follow.  This is a certainty!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: piojo84 on January 22, 2014, 04:26:57 PM
Apparently we have offered Floc plus 1-2 mil euro for 50% of Belfodil (the other 50% is owned by Parma).

to inter or parma?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 22, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
Apparently we have offered Floc plus 1-2 mil euro for 50% of Belfodil (the other 50% is owned by Parma).

to inter or parma?

Inter
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 22, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
Why not a CB? for crying out loud..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 04:47:05 PM
Why not a CB? for crying out loud..

Still think this will be the first concern, and it should be?
Cannavaro can still happen or someone else, especially if this possibel Ciani transfer has some truth?

Can't believe Reja would first want a striker when his best CB's are 'over the hill'?

I'm guessing these Belfodil thing has not been officialy confirmed, so many rumours ......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 05:03:57 PM
Something totally of topic, but i just read an incredibly 'weird' transfer!

Fabrice Olinga, very talented multifunctional attacker from Malaga has signed for Apollon Limassol.
Apollon has loaned him out immediatly to Zulte Waregem (Belgium), probably to replace Thorgan Hazard.
He was the youngest 1ste team player in spain ever and one of the biggest talents out of Cameroon, i really expected him to make huge step forward?  He's talent is compareble with Keita is suppose but not quit there yet?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 22, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
Juventus apparently wants to offer us Vucinic in a swap deal for Hernanes..lol
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 22, 2014, 07:59:45 PM
Javi Garcia is supposedly the player who will replace Hernanes in case he leaves.

How do you guys rate Garcia? will he be our new midfielder?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 22, 2014, 08:16:34 PM
From what I remember he was a very good midfielder for Benfica, chipped in with a couple of goals as well. At City he picked up an injury early on and never really broke into the side or got a decent run of games. Now he's quite rightly being kept out the side by Toure and Fernandinho.

My main concern if we're looking at him are his wages (he'll be very well paid at City) and as a DM, who'll he be replacing? There are other areas we need to look at IMO.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 08:35:41 PM
Javi Garcia is supposedly the player who will replace Hernanes in case he leaves.

How do you guys rate Garcia? will he be our new midfielder?

First of all i really think Reja wants to hold on to Hernanes no matter what, so Lotito would do best by pleasing him.  He knows Reja walked out after the last bad mercato?  Let's say it this way, i hope this is correct.  Hernanes and Anderson will have to be the creative MF for the rest of the season now that Ederson is out.  So swapping Hernanes for Garcia would not be smart!

Saw a few matches of Javi Garcia at Benfica, was indeed a good DM, so in that position no replacement for hernanes.  Ledesma is our only DM and i don't see Garcia coming to Lazio as his sub, will not happen. Unless Reja wants to play with to solid DM's, that's something else.  I hear City wants 10mill for Javi Garcia who can also play CB.

Lotito enquired about him last mercato also, that's when City let him know the price was 10mill.
If this would actually happen another midfielder will have to leave (Onazi, Biglia, Cana, Tata).  Personnaly i don't want to see Onazi or Biglia leave right now.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
Tare about Djordjevic, gives transparant info.
The deal is in a very good stadium, but not final on the part of Nantes.
Djordjevic himself is apperently convinced of coming to Lazio and Tare seems to believe in his qualities.

I will believe it when he's wearing the jersey, a word means less these days then in earlier times?
Not saying that this guy will not hold his word, but we don't know hime yet?

Andre Dias very happy he says and would like to extend another year.
If he continues like last games and stays fit i'm all for it because we will not get 3 good CB's in the next year, don't see Lotito getting this done?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 22, 2014, 09:48:59 PM
Javi Garcia could be a real coup. But, doubt that will happen in this mercato. Maybe in summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: LazioKosovo on January 22, 2014, 10:05:18 PM
There is a rumor that our old customer Norwich City are after Ciani.
There is a logical rumor to me. And a good one, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 22, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Javi Garcia has wooden legs.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2014, 10:39:57 PM
There is a rumor that our old customer Norwich City are after Ciani.
There is a logical rumor to me. And a good one, if you ask me.

This rumour has been going around on this forum for days now.
It's supposed to be a solid one, so i (like many fans) am hoping it will materialise.
Norwich may have made a bid around 1.3-1.5 mill?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 23, 2014, 01:07:01 AM
I first discoverd this forum googling news about Lazio, now why the F should we even discuss (care about) the transfers/rumors of the city neighbours?? To be honest, that is really annoying, just saying and hate me if you want.

Second thing, who is Djordjevic? I have never ever seen him/ heard of him before rumors, so how could he be the Klose "replacement"? Is he really that good? From what I've googled, I'm neither impressed or can understand the hype around him, please do correct me if I'm wrong

Peace
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 01:43:08 AM
I first discoverd this forum googling news about Lazio, now why the F should we even discuss (care about) the transfers/rumors of the city neighbours?? To be honest, that is really annoying, just saying and hate me if you want.

Second thing, who is Djordjevic? I have never ever seen him/ heard of him before rumors, so how could he be the Klose "replacement"? Is he really that good? From what I've googled, I'm neither impressed or can understand the hype around him, please do correct me if I'm wrong

Peace
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 23, 2014, 03:10:07 AM
I first discoverd this forum googling news about Lazio, now why the F should we even discuss (care about) the transfers/rumors of the city neighbours?? To be honest, that is really annoying, just saying and hate me if you want.

Second thing, who is Djordjevic? I have never ever seen him/ heard of him before rumors, so how could he be the Klose "replacement"? Is he really that good? From what I've googled, I'm neither impressed or can understand the hype around him, please do correct me if I'm wrong

Peace

The fact that this forum is for all laziale to discuss whatever topic we want
That's why we have like a billion thread, whether spaghetti, gelato,
Thongs, music, or roma's rumors/transfers..so chill out.. No need to panic..

About djordjevic, he's a typical above average poacher... But with no experience at the
Highest levels.. It depends if he can cope well and fast.
I don't think he'll be the cure for our front line all by himself..

About javi garcia, I wouldn't pay for a sub 10 m when we have a younh talent
Of ours in onazi with the same characteristics..
Pay the 10 m for a decent CB if you want to pay that much.
Or get another striker.
I believe that the day lotito would want to sell kieta or onazi, It will be
The end of any doubt that lotito isn't trying to build a team..
He just want to survive that's all...

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 23, 2014, 03:27:23 AM
The fact that this forum is for all laziale to discuss whatever topic we want
That's why we have like a billion thread, whether spaghetti, gelato,
Thongs, music, or roma's rumors/transfers..so chill out.. No need to panic..

 I want to panic, let me, and I'm still gonna be annoyed every time someone will mention them here making comparisons between us, makes my blood boil. Now yes go ahead start whatever thread you want then but is there NOwhere any sacred land for ONLY LAZIO?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 23, 2014, 04:19:17 AM
The fact that this forum is for all laziale to discuss whatever topic we want
That's why we have like a billion thread, whether spaghetti, gelato,
Thongs, music, or roma's rumors/transfers..so chill out.. No need to panic..

 I want to panic, let me, and I'm still gonna be annoyed every time someone will mention them here making comparisons between us, makes my blood boil. Now yes go ahead start whatever thread you want then but is there NOwhere any sacred land for ONLY LAZIO?

I didn't mean it this way, what i wanted to imply that we can discuss anything but politics and religion...
there's a rivalry with another team in Rome. and in general terms with so many teams in Italy and Europe so sometimes we have to do some compare and contrast...
but since it annoys you so much. i promise you i won't !! but can't do that on the behalf of other members :vcool:


Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: birulangit on January 23, 2014, 04:41:59 AM
The fact that this forum is for all laziale to discuss whatever topic we want
That's why we have like a billion thread, whether spaghetti, gelato,
Thongs, music, or roma's rumors/transfers..so chill out.. No need to panic..

 I want to panic, let me, and I'm still gonna be annoyed every time someone will mention them here making comparisons between us, makes my blood boil. Now yes go ahead start whatever thread you want then but is there NOwhere any sacred land for ONLY LAZIO?

just keep away from other section..
limit urself to La SS Lazio section and you'll be ok..
as beauty and the clowns are in mix zone..


i guess a little comparison here and there wouldnt hurt..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 23, 2014, 04:53:17 AM
Should have pursued Matri.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 23, 2014, 07:11:42 AM
The fact that this forum is for all laziale to discuss whatever topic we want
That's why we have like a billion thread, whether spaghetti, gelato,
Thongs, music, or roma's rumors/transfers..so chill out.. No need to panic..

 I want to panic, let me, and I'm still gonna be annoyed every time someone will mention them here making comparisons between us, makes my blood boil. Now yes go ahead start whatever thread you want then but is there NOwhere any sacred land for ONLY LAZIO?

I didn't mean it this way, what i wanted to imply that we can discuss anything but politics and religion...
there's a rivalry with another team in Rome. and in general terms with so many teams in Italy and Europe so sometimes we have to do some compare and contrast...
but since it annoys you so much. i promise you i won't !! but can't do that on the behalf of other members :vcool:
طولوا بالكم على بعض يا شباب.. القضية قضيتنا وهي أهم من سعادين روما يللي بيلبسوا أحمر وأصفر  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 23, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
but since it annoys you so much. i promise you i won't!! but can't do that on the behalf of other members :vcool:

 :bravo: thanx bro you're the best! :beer:


طولوا بالكم على بعض يا شباب.. القضية قضيتنا وهي أهم من سعادين روما يللي بيلبسوا أحمر وأصفر  :razz:

tamam bro, we are all chill, our bal is tawil, the drama is our way to interact  :beer:

peace
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: emhad on January 23, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
So,,,,23 January...and we have signed.....who??? no one. Great!  :winner: :winner: :winner:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
So,,,,23 January...and we have signed.....who??? no one. Great!  :winner: :winner: :winner:

Well, we did not sell anybody. I think Reja said it correctly: we have a decent squad and we can do ok. If we sell somebody, we can buy too and then we get the chance to improve. I dont expect to buy players unless somebody leaves.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 23, 2014, 09:53:23 AM
What a stupid rumor: if Lazio sells Hernanes they will make a go at City`s Javi Garcia?

Why would we chase Garcia when we have Onazi who is better than the former!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 23, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
Javi Garcia has wooden legs.

That makes him a perfect player for Lotito's project!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 12:26:09 PM
In our current situation, if we keep Hernanes and Marchetti and can sell Ciani to Norwich the mercato is already a half succes!

If a good CB and sub LB/RB could arrive, the mercato will be an entire succes!

And if Flocc should go we need a replacement as well, but i'm thinking then Tounkara will probebly get promoted?

This rumour hitting today about Senderos replacing Ciani better be crap, i'd rather have a primavera CB replace him then?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 23, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
You know what, getting Senderos for free would not be bad at all.

He has experience and has played in high levels, which cannot be said about Ciani, Novaretti et al.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
You know what, getting Senderos for free would not be bad at all.

He has experience and has played in high levels, which cannot be said about Ciani, Novaretti et al.
That is true, but he is really prone to the injuries.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 01:32:41 PM
Was thinking the same, Amir. Senderos is not a bad player and has good experience. Would be great to get him now, not in June. I would still prefer Cannavaro as he has more Serie A experience, but Senderos for free would be my second option.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 01:35:21 PM
this is funny: “Con 13 milioni lo sai che ci compri? Solo lo scarpino di Hernanes, il destro!” (Lotito answering to a interista asking if he would sell Hernanes to Inter)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 23, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
Senderos a good option? Are you guys serious? This player is not only injury prone but he is mistake prone and there is a reason why he was kicked out of Arsenal and Fulham are ready to sell him. He would be a much worse option than Ciani.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 23, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
I don't really get why the huge craving for new additions to the squad. are we fighting for the scudetto? nope. are we fighting for CL? nope. LE? we can get there by our own strength right now and I don't see a reason to fork out 10-15 mil euros to get to LE.

Coppa Italia? napoli, or sadly, merda are playing much better right now and we will be most probably be out in the next round

LE - same thing - there is no reason to splash the cash in some tournament we don't get anything back from

if we can get a good player for reasonable amount of money - ok. but have in mind in winter mercatos  the prices are overhyped
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 02:04:34 PM
Senderos a good option? Are you guys serious? This player is not only injury prone but he is mistake prone and there is a reason why he was kicked out of Arsenal and Fulham are ready to sell him. He would be a much worse option than Ciani.

Damn right, yes he played for Arsenal and Fulham, but failed miserably.  And he can also immediately join Konko and Ederson in the injury-room. 
I'm sticking with my opinion, rather Ciani or a primavera-talent getting a shot then Senderos!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
while i partially agree with you (i also think that we would better promote youngsters like Elez, Vinicius, Cavanda, Crecco, Keita, Onazi, Felipe Anderson, Perea, Tounkara as opposed to buying new players before summer as we can skip this season and build for the next one), there are also valid points that we are still in Coppa and EL races with reasonable chances. Our last year's performance was an example that in a Cup does not always win the team that plays the best football. That being said, it makes sense to want to reinforce the first squad. But the question is: Are the mentioned names reinforcements or not?

in my opinion, an amazing January mercato would be to sell Pereirinha, Ciani, Novaretti and Floccari and bring Cannavaro and Antonelli (perfectly doable). We dont really need reinforcements upfront. Klose, Perea, Keita and possibly Tounkara can handle the job well enough. What we need to add is some solidity in defense. Just imagine how Antonelli, Cannavaro, Biava/Cana, Radu will work!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
Senderos a good option? Are you guys serious? This player is not only injury prone but he is mistake prone and there is a reason why he was kicked out of Arsenal and Fulham are ready to sell him. He would be a much worse option than Ciani.

Damn right, yes he played for Arsenal and Fulham, but failed miserably.  And he can also immediately join Konko and Ederson in the injury-room. 
I'm sticking with my opinion, rather Ciani or a primavera-talent getting a shot then Senderos!

not sure about that. 1296 min this year and 2000 min last year, 2700 before that is more than Biava and Dias together. And is not that fullham gets rid of him, he wants a better contract. i actually saw him in the frirendly agains Brazil (switzerland beat them 1-0). he seemed pretty solid to me.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 23, 2014, 02:26:11 PM
Getting Senderos as the addition to the squad who are supposed to make us stronger, will just be yet another example of how little Lotito actually cares about where we end up.

I'd rather we had used Crescenzi or Elez in the squad than take some injury prone player in who just adds to the wage bill without adding quality.

This club keeps walking in circles, we never move forward, we never get better.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 02:30:09 PM
in my opinion, an amazing January mercato would be to sell Pereirinha, Ciani, Novaretti and Floccari and bring Cannavaro and Antonelli (perfectly doable). We dont really need reinforcements upfront. Klose, Perea, Keita and possibly Tounkara can handle the job well enough. What we need to add is some solidity in defense. Just imagine how Antonelli, Cannavaro, Biava/Cana, Radu will work!

This i agree with 100%, if this would happen i think we could not expect a better mercato!
Wo knows, getting Cannavaro and Antonelli is possible still and also selling Ciani and Flocc?
Selling Pere and Nova on the other hand might be too much to ask?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 02:36:54 PM
Senderos would be ok in my opinion. Better than Ciani, younger, better experience.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 23, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
not sure about that. 1296 min this year and 2000 min last year, 2700 before that is more than Biava and Dias together. And is not that fullham gets rid of him, he wants a better contract. i actually saw him in the frirendly agains Brazil (switzerland beat them 1-0). he seemed pretty solid to me.

That is Senderos' biggest problem. He makes one good game and then makes 4 bad ones. He can be good for lets say 75 minutes in a game and then suddenly make a childish mistake which makes him a Championship player rather than a Serie A/PL one.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 23, 2014, 02:46:45 PM
How on earth is Senderos only 28?  :supsmile: Feels like he should be about 36 he has been around that long!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 02:52:30 PM
How on earth is Senderos only 28?  :supsmile: Feels like he should be about 36 he has been around that long!
Nice question. Remember him from 10 years ago, while he was in Arsenal yet.  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
Senderos would be ok in my opinion. Better than Ciani, younger, better experience.

If Senderos would actually replace Ciani and he does a decent job, it would indeed be smarter to have him for the EL and the Coppa.  But i would feel better knowing it would only be temperarly (untill summer for example)?  It's just not improving much for next season to get Senderos.  I'm really hoping for a very solid CB from abroad or with Serie A experience, that's all.
Getting Cannavaro in the next couple of days would be ideal!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 03:16:28 PM
English press is already confirming that Senderos is going to Lazio on a free transfer and also that Ciani's transfer to Norwich is only a matter details anymore?

Could be true, but we all know the english rumours are te worst?

This could mean we are not going after Cannavaro anymore, very disappointing?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 23, 2014, 03:28:55 PM
Senderos + another CB and i'd be satisfied with it. But Senderos alone? no thanks.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 23, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
How on earth is Senderos only 28?  :supsmile: Feels like he should be about 36 he has been around that long!
great ... i felt the same...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 23, 2014, 03:59:49 PM
while i partially agree with you (i also think that we would better promote youngsters like Elez, Vinicius, Cavanda, Crecco, Keita, Onazi, Felipe Anderson, Perea, Tounkara as opposed to buying new players before summer as we can skip this season and build for the next one)

But it seems that Reja doesn't consider them as the first squad.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 04:33:55 PM
sad to see that Diamanti will end up in Guangzhou Evergrande...I mean ffs, he deserves better than this. One of the best creative players in Serie A.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 04:50:20 PM
sad to see that Diamanti will end up in Guangzhou Evergrande...I mean ffs, he deserves better than this. One of the best creative players in Serie A.
20 millions, mate.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 23, 2014, 04:56:38 PM
With hypothetically Ciani,Biava and Dias leaving until the end of the season and Novaretti,Elez being the only 3 defenders,I expect a big name arriving this summer(or at least I hope..)

Maybe we are waiting Breno to get ouf from jail...?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 05:04:27 PM
Expecting that Hernanes will be sold for big money and some big name finally arrive, especially in defense.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 23, 2014, 05:07:19 PM
With hypothetically Ciani,Biava and Dias leaving until the end of the season and Novaretti,Elez being the only 3 defenders,I expect a big name arriving this summer(or at least I hope..)

Maybe we are waiting Breno to get ouf from jail...?

oh yeah, i knew it: the breno rumor was missing so far! how is the guy? training in jail, ready to go out fit and waiting for Tare's visit? how much did he get? 2 years?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 23, 2014, 05:21:44 PM
With hypothetically Ciani,Biava and Dias leaving until the end of the season and Novaretti,Elez being the only 3 defenders,I expect a big name arriving this summer(or at least I hope..)

Maybe we are waiting Breno to get ouf from jail...?

oh yeah, i knew it: the breno rumor was missing so far! how is the guy? training in jail, ready to go out fit and waiting for Tare's visit? how much did he get? 2 years?

No idea how Breno is but remember how many years we were waiting for Ederson to come...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 23, 2014, 05:56:41 PM
Senderos is the perfect replacement for Ciani - loses concentration constantly and makes errors as a result.

That said, he was excellent at Arsenal as a kid and it was only when he flopped at Milan that I understood why they let him go.

But he ticks all of the boxes - right side of 30, Serie A experience, international player, has potential but on current form, not good enough.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 06:24:41 PM
Look like Tare is handling a possible move for that croatian kid Pasalic (central attacking MF).
Lotito would offer 2mill for this 19y old talent, a bit high-priced if you ask me, he's not proven?
But it seems Hajduk wants even more, 2.5-3mill, this will have to be a very good prospect?
This would clearly be another investment for the future squad, he play on Hernanes his position.
Wich is also weird because Anderson was bought for 8-9mill to replace Hernanes in time, unless he will always be used on the flanks because of his additionel speed?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 23, 2014, 06:31:30 PM
Senderos is the perfect replacement for Ciani - loses concentration constantly and makes errors as a result.

That said, he was excellent at Arsenal as a kid and it was only when he flopped at Milan that I understood why they let him go.

But he ticks all of the boxes - right side of 30, Serie A experience, international player, has potential but on current form, not good enough.

I hope we're aiming a bit higher than Senderos, as you said he's a perfect replacement for Ciani, but replacing one horribly limited player with another doesn't help the team progress. The fact Fulham only offered him a 1 year extension last summer shows how little they rate him - a stop gap at best.

He was funny at Milan though...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 07:00:54 PM
Senderos is the perfect replacement for Ciani - loses concentration constantly and makes errors as a result.

That said, he was excellent at Arsenal as a kid and it was only when he flopped at Milan that I understood why they let him go.

But he ticks all of the boxes - right side of 30, Serie A experience, international player, has potential but on current form, not good enough.

I hope we're aiming a bit higher than Senderos, as you said he's a perfect replacement for Ciani, but replacing one horribly limited player with another doesn't help the team progress. The fact Fulham only offered him a 1 year extension last summer shows how little they rate him - a stop gap at best.

He was funny at Milan though...
Could be funny down south of Milan.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 23, 2014, 07:15:34 PM
Senderos injuries list:

13/14 24.12.2013 01.01.2014 Infortunio all'inguine
12/13 15.07.2012 10.10.2012 Frattura del piede
11/12 08.02.2012 01.03.2012 Problema all'inguine
11/12 15.10.2011 14.11.2011 Problemi all'anca
10/11 10.08.2010 01.02.2011 Rottura del tendine d'achille
09/10 17.06.2010 26.06.2010 Infortunio all'articolazione del piede
08/09 12.08.2008 28.08.2008 Problemi con la coscia
07/08 17.10.2007 15.11.2007 Problemi con la schiena

Wow.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 23, 2014, 07:19:40 PM
I just can't understand what it is we want from this season..I really can't.

Are we okay with no european football next season because of where we will end up in the league? Or are we trying this for a 2nd year running, betting the entire season on one competition that is like playing russian roulette?

What is it this club wants?

Stop talking about EL with this team..have you guys not seen how the other teams play? We will not catch up with the top 5 and I'd be surprised if we keep Milan behind us too. Our team is not better, I just can't get into my head how some of you keep thinking this team can achieve great things. The team is mediocre, at best.

This team will end 7-8th in the league and that is not bad, considering all the other clubs have done something that we did not..they made their starting 11 stronger than it was the year before.

Juve, merda, Napoli, Viola, Inter, Milan all have better starting 11 than we do..and Verona actually close to us considering their performances so far this seaso, now they sold Jorginho I am not so sure.

So my point is...throw away this season and start over from scratch...? that is fine with me, DO NOT ADD ANOTHER IDIOTIC DEFENDER TO THE WAGE BILL..promote a youngster or keep who we have. Selling Ciani is fine, we don't need him to keep the spot we have now in the league and we don't need him to crash out of the Coppa or the EL...

Go for top 5? THEN SIGN SOME PLAYERS WHO MAKE THE TEAM STRONGER. Not some reject from England who no one else wants.

This January mercato, I just can't understand what the actual fu ck our president is doing.


ps: http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/cagliari-complete-adryan-signing-from-flamengo/ (http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/cagliari-complete-adryan-signing-from-flamengo/)   < ----- I am jealous..a talent like that and on a loan deal...amazing business by them. Imagine that, having a president who can do business and not just be an asshat clown

pps: Just looking at Senderos injury history and then the fact we've had so many problems with Ederson and other injury prone players makes you wonder..how stupid can Lotito possibly be? this may just be the most stupid transfer Lotito will be doing...I am starting to despise this fuc king prick of a president.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 23, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
ps: [url]http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/cagliari-complete-adryan-signing-from-flamengo/[/url] ([url]http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/cagliari-complete-adryan-signing-from-flamengo/[/url])   < ----- I am jealous..a talent like that and on a loan deal...amazing business by them. Imagine that, having a president who can do business and not just be an asshat clown

pps: Just looking at Senderos injury history and then the fact we've had so many problems with Ederson and other injury prone players makes you wonder..how stupid can Lotito possibly be? this may just be the most stupid transfer Lotito will be doing...I am starting to despise this fuc king prick of a president.


Cellino over Lotito? Be real here. It is the best Cagliari side in over a decade and he puts everyone up for sale and considers buying another team. But because he signs some Brazilian lad, he is better than Lotito?

Adryan was someone who was touted for big things until big clubs took a look at him and said no thanks. His transfer to Cagliari only underlines the fact we paid well over the odds for Felipe Anderson.

You know, I'm tempted to make a note of the players people suggest would be good for us, make a team out of each person's suggestions and compare to Lazio in 5 years time. I think some of our teams would look horrendous.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 23, 2014, 08:00:58 PM
Aye, I don't think Adryan's up to much really, his reputation's based on a good U17's tournament with Brazil and little else. If I remember correctly he was really highly rated on one of the Football Manager games as well, which is the main reason a lot of people this side of the Atlantic have heard of him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 23, 2014, 08:33:12 PM
ps: [url]http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/cagliari-complete-adryan-signing-from-flamengo/[/url] ([url]http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/cagliari-complete-adryan-signing-from-flamengo/[/url])   < ----- I am jealous..a talent like that and on a loan deal...amazing business by them. Imagine that, having a president who can do business and not just be an asshat clown



 :supsmile: Seriously...good one.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 23, 2014, 09:11:17 PM
okay maybeeee it was a little too much whine, but you guys have no idea how frustrated I am with this shitty mercato and the fact Lotito isn't doing his job at the moment.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 09:19:23 PM
Yes the other teams keep doing businnes in this mercato, and this especially i envy very much :
- Milan are going full after Paletta (Parma).  I'm really frustrated with this, next to Cannavaro he
  would be a tremendous CB at Lazio.

Now for our Lazio:
- Flocc is now being linked to Sassuolo and Catania and this rumours seem to be in a more advanced
  stage then Bologna or Sampdoria before.  Both supposedly offer 1.5euro, but Lotito wants more.
  Now both clubs are saying they will get Flocc next summer for free!
- A Lazio delegation is in Croatia to finalize the deal for Pasalic, but this is also not going smoothly as
  Hajduk president wants more then the 2mill Lotito is offering.
  This would again be an unproven youthplayer, no immediate reinforcement.
- And this Senderos-thing is not blowing over, he would be a free transfer and that's Lotito's wet
  dream?  Looking at his injury-list.  My god, another Ederson!
- Yet another rumour that Anderson would be leaving on a 6month loan to Torino?
   A 9mill transfer by Lazio to be loaned out, unbelievable!

Our president is really 'shining' as usual  :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 23, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
okay maybeeee it was a little too much whine, but you guys have no idea how frustrated I am with this shitty mercato and the fact Lotito isn't doing his job at the moment.

Dude, you've got to seriously calm down. We've never been spoiled so why hope for it now? The sooner you accept the fact that you will take whatever we are given the sooner your blood pressure will return to normal.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 23, 2014, 09:30:40 PM
I also think we have to ask ourselves if we'd swap this team for the side Lotito had when we took over? Despite all the chaos through the years, we have cleared our debts and moved forward at the same time.

There as a time you'd hit January and guys like Hernanes and Marchetti would be sold and that would be that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 23, 2014, 09:37:39 PM
I also think we have to ask ourselves if we'd swap this team for the side Lotito had when we took over? Despite all the chaos through the years, we have cleared our debts and moved forward at the same time.

There as a time you'd hit January and guys like Hernanes and Marchetti would be sold and that would be that.

Well that's it, back in the day we all said Serie A survival was the goal. Now we are contesting Europe every season. Could Lotito just pay more to take us this step further? Probably. Is this January the time to do it? Probably not.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Weninho on January 23, 2014, 09:44:04 PM
Have we signed no one yet?

Seriously, I don't think we should make any move right now. Only sells. We're not going to get relegated. Better to wait for the summer and start over.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 23, 2014, 09:51:31 PM
Have we signed no one yet?

Seriously, I don't think we should make any move right now. Only sells. We're not going to get relegated. Better to wait for the summer and start over.

Well i never tought i'd say this during a mercato, but i'm starting to agree with this remarque.
Lotito is busy right now with this Pasalic (youth-player) and Senderos, what's the use?
Sell Ciani to Norwich now they have interest and be done with it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 24, 2014, 01:54:16 AM
Senderos? Bendtner? Aiming high, aren't we Lotito?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 24, 2014, 03:17:28 AM
No Sanderos please, we don't need another injury prone players, we already have many in Ederson, Pere, Konko, Radu, Vinicius, Novaretti.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Juzko on January 24, 2014, 04:12:28 AM
Well if we can get anything out of Ciani and get Senderos for free, then it's a win situation for us. We get some money and the quality stays the same or probably a 1-2% improvement.

I don't see anything bad on trying these has-beens for free, as long as we don't increase our squad size with them.

But basically I agree with what Weninho wrote earlier. We will be no near relegation so no need for additions now as nobody serious seems to be available for the right prize. Rather save the pennies for the summer and start spending them after our next season coach has been named and has a vision for what he likes.

We should give some playing time for the youngsters when safely possible as there really seems to be some potential!

IF there should be any additions, the priority should be on a Serie A proven defender able to cover LB and CB. Still waiting for Radu to get back to the centre.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: birulangit on January 24, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
if we are going for sanderos..

y not heitiga?? surely a better player than sanderos..
no one except our neighbor is interested.. and they are not that keen either..

and cannavaro would be a much better option.. y are we not signing him..
fit the criteria.. a proven defender.. a serie A player.. contract almost expired.. is keen on moving out of napoli..

y sanderos??
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 24, 2014, 11:31:24 AM
Reports today that Lazio and Juve spoke about Quagliarela and Lazio offered 3 million Euros now (for a loan) and another 4 at season`s end for complete ownership of the player.

Further, the same reports claim that Quagliarela also spoke on the phone to Lazio officials and he consented to the move and even asked for jersey number 27 (currently in use by Lorik Cana) as he has special attachment to that number.

Now there is problems with Juve because they are still shopping Vucinic and they can`t risk of selling both Quags and Vucinic (understandable of course)

Let`s see if anything happens.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 24, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
Just some notes.

People complain about our failed mercato, etc. Wait a second. We all agree that we have a large squad and that IF we dont really aim high in Serie A it would be better to promote our youth. Crecco and Cavanda are expected to start on Saturday, Keita, Felipe Anderson, Perea will be around. Onazi would have been there too. People, we have good young players getting chances. We have solid players (Marchetti, Biava, Dias, Ledesma, Biglia, Mauri, Klose, etc to help them develop). We have young players that were not even tested yet like Vinicius, Elez, Tounkara. I dont think we are on a wrong track if we keep on in this direction.

About the mercato: sure, we can bring some "experienced" players. But if Senderos level is what we can afford, then I would prefer promoting our youth and hoping that next year we will have 2-3 solid players. Sure we can replace Ciani with Senderos or Cannavaro, maybe Floc with Quag or whatever, But the line should be clear: focus on youth and ONLY replace players with better options IF possible.

I dont understand people crying out that we dont sign famous players, that we are not investing like Rioma, etc. It will happen only if we sell somebody. For the rest, i prefer to see players like Pasalic coming than investing 7 mil euro in Quag to be honest. With that being said, I dont really expect much this mercato. I will be happy if we replace Ciani and Floc with somebody else, maybe get rid of Pere and if we sign Pasalic. I will be happy to see Crecco, Keita & co more and more in our games. Who needs mercato when we have already some possibly great players coming from our youth!?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 24, 2014, 12:20:38 PM
Lazio needs a class defender who can show the youngsters how it's done.
Lazio needs a class striker to replace Klose because you can't expect Keita, Perea and Tounkara to step into Klose's shoes next season
Lazio needs players who know how to cross the ball and give good passes to the strikers. Lulic and Candreva do that once in 100 attemps. Hernanes plays good when he is in samba mood. That isn't enough

You can build a young squad but it has to be aroud good, quality players who can teach the youngsters how it's done. Lazio has the young players but I'm not quite sure that the class players are there... with 1,2 exceptions.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 24, 2014, 12:26:58 PM
Have we signed no one yet?

Seriously, I don't think we should make any move right now. Only sells. We're not going to get relegated. Better to wait for the summer and start over.

I already posted this some days ago. For me, it would be good if we would sign a CB, but on other positions - i only would make money and spend it wisely in the summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 24, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
I agree with Weninho on this. We dont "need" anybody at the moment. We "could use" some players but to stay in serie A and play in CL and EL we are perfectly covered at the moment. If we sell somebody (Ciani, Floc) we can look at getting some better replacements (Senderos, Cannavaro, Quag, Gila). If not, why bother? better promote youth and wait till summer to see who is ready or not.

Latest reliable news:

-> Sassuolo now offering 1.5 mil for Floc, Lotare will accept it IF Genoa agrees to sell Gila for 1 mil + their current debt. That would be a good deal if you ask me: we replace Floc with Gila and gain some cash. I would even insert Scullinwa in the deal.

-> Norwich is close to signing Ciani for 2.5 mil. Lotare is looking for a replacement first. Senderos might not come as Fullham insists on keeping him till summer and asks cash for releasing him now. that might stop Ciani from leaving.

-> No actual offer for Hernanes. Lotito wants only cash (20 mil) and that stops the interested parts (Inter, Milan). We are in a good situation: we dont really NEED to sell, we can keep Hernanes as he seems fine with it too.

-> there were some talks about the remaining 50% of Candreva with Udinese last week. Apparently Udinese would settle for 7 mil, but Lotito prefered to wait till summer.

-> We are negotiating for Pasalic but we dont want to offer more than 2 mil. reja believes that the player is good, he knows him apparently. Might be a great addition for the future.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Lazio_ade on January 24, 2014, 01:27:18 PM
If Lotito's strategy is to turn the fans off the idea of new signings by spreading rumours that we are signing donkeys like Senderos and Bendtner then it's a stroke of genius!
 :bravo:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 24, 2014, 03:31:23 PM
Cannavaro and Quagliarella are NEEDED now. Madness to say they're not, Klose and Biava can injure themselves at any given moment.  We already have few to many imports on our team, time to sign some established Serie A players who know the league.  Bonaventura in the summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 24, 2014, 04:13:24 PM
Cannavaro and Quagliarella are NEEDED now. Madness to say they're not, Klose and Biava can injure themselves at any given moment.  We already have few to many imports on our team, time to sign some established Serie A players who know the league.  Bonaventura in the summer.

No they are not needed now. They would be good aditions. I mean our objective is (arguably) to play ok in Serie A and to put a fight in Coppa and EL. I mean we can do this without Cannavaro and Quag. Plus if you think in perspective, would be nicer to use players like Elez, Crecco, Cavanda, Keita, Perea and see what they are worth and if we can count on them next year than bring 2 oldies who will require starter places. Not to mention that trying to integrate Quag next to Klose will imply a complete redesign of the tactics.

Again, I'm not saying that I would not welcome them. If Ciani and Floc leave, it would be great to have Cannavaro and Quag. In my opinion that would improve the average quality of the first team. But it is not a must. It's just a nice to have. We can survive well till summer like this. And I'm not mad!  :bravo: Yet!

In summer we will need to reconsider the team anyway...Biava, Dias, maybe Klose will be gone. Already  positions where we need reinforcements. Would be nice to have Elez and Perea ready. Same for Lulic, Hernanes, Candreva who might get good WC performances and be sold...would be nice to know that we can count on Keita and Felipe Anderson. In my opinion that would be more useful than winning 5 extra points or so this year or qualifying to the EL quater finals instead of getting out before.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 24, 2014, 05:30:46 PM
My understanding of the rules is that player can play in the Europa League having played for their previous club in the CL earlier that season, so even if we do prioritise EL for the remaineR of the season, Quagliarella and Cannavaro would be smart editions. It's rare these kinds of players are available to us, so it'd be stupidity to pass up the opportunity and end up buying more obscurity from abroad in the summer. If Cannavaro joins Inter, Gamberini would be the next logical option.

If inter want Heranes, insist on Kovacic straight swap. If LFC want him, insist on Borini plus cash.

Edy has also spoken of his desire to sign two 'quality' players. Had we given the man what he wanted in the past CL football would likely have been attained. Time to back him.

As I predicted, he's shifted towards a 3-5-1-1(2). Antonelli Cannavaro and Quagliarella would all be perfect fits.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
The EL, the Coppa and the league a side, i would always prefer players like Quagliarella and Cannavaro instead of Flocc and Ciani. 

The Cannavaro thing seems to not be happening, there's not talk about this anymore, but Quag has emerged again, maybe because Juve is pushing to sell him?  At first Quag himself was not interested in joining Lazio.  This will still be difficult, Lotito wants to loan him first and pay half, Juve wants the money right away! 

Lotito and Tare are busy with Pasalic and adding another striker?  Very wrong approach if you ask me, a very good CB and should as for now be the sole priority of this club? 
So this might indicate that Ciani is staying, because Fulham prefers to keep Senderos untill summer.
I'm not angry for this, better a good replacement then another injury-prone low level CB.
Also that the chance is pretty big Flocc will be leaving this month, this would be the best thing, otherwis he will leave for free next summer?
The best rumour so far (Antonelli) is also gone quiet, probably because he was priced at 7mill.
The rumour about getting Gilardino is to be ignored after Gila stated to day to be full dedecated to Genoa.

So if (and i say if) something happens this mercato, it probably will be this Pasalic kid (another MF) and a striker (if Flocc is sold). 

With this approach to current mercato it's getting clear that no real priority will be given to move on in the EL or Coppa, and only to continue now performing well in the Serie A.
Personally this is sad.  A club like Lazio should always do what's possible to keep winning when being in this stage of the EL or Coppa.  One or 2 good experienced CB's and a decent sub RB/LB could give us a chance at least?  If we could reach Europe for next season by winning the EL or the Coppa, this would save the current season completely.  No european football next year for a club like Lazio is a loss, no matter how you put it!  It's useless not to try this i think because the squad as it is now would never relegate, i don't ever see that happening.

One good thing will emerge from this offcourse and that's the youngster (hopefully) getting more and more chances.  Maybe chances for Crecco, Elez and Tounkara also very soon, so we can actually see what they can do in the first squad? 

6 days remaining in this mercato now, it think only Quagliarella might happen and the sale of Flocc ....
So no quality CB to already lead in the departure of Biava & Dias this summer, Bad management with a capital B!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 24, 2014, 07:08:36 PM
Common guys, what did you expect? To buy three players in the first days of January?
This is Lotito and this is how he works every time. Don't expect much - so you won't be dissapointed after that.
I don't have any expectation for this mercato and i am sure we will not buy or sell anyone.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 24, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
I hate this we need a 'young, quality centre-back with Serie A experience' line. That player doesn't exist.

If you go for a job interview, you are asked where do you see yourself in 5 years time. Where do you see Lazio in 5 years time with a 36 year-old Quagliarella and a 38 year-old Cannavaro?

I'll be annoyed if Lotito brings them in in January. I'm with Johan for a change - don't see the point in big signings this winter. Let's go to the ATAHotel and see what bargains we stumble upon.

PS. I also question if the summer is the time to start fresh. I am 99% certain Reja will be Lazio manager come 1st July.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 24, 2014, 07:59:25 PM
I also agree. Only if we sell Ciani and Floc might make sense to make a move, but then I am also asking if Cannavaro and Quag are the right options. I would prefer young without Serie A experience and give them chances to play until summer. Maybe Elez and Perea are what we are looking for.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2014, 08:00:27 PM
Official statemant for Quagliarella's agent at 19.15u: Fabio is staying at Juve, Lazio was interesting but he has made up his mind.

Second statement from this agent this month both saying thesame thing, what's to believe?
First he's not interested, then supposedly yesterday he asked for shirt nr 27 and today he's again not interested anymore.  This is turning in to a kind of Yilmaz-saga again.
I would say leave it, it can be 'Ronaldo' for all i care, if a player is 'not really interested' in playing for Lazio there will be a lack of motivation anyway.

Wonder if Lotito will turn to someone else next or if Flocc will stay?
Or Flocc will be sold (i hope, to get some money now it's still possible) and Tounkara will get promoted?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 24, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Did Juventus think 5 years ahead when they signed Pirlo? United last season with Van Persie?

If we'd applied that logic in this decade,  we'd never have signed Klose, Biava and Dias. Football clubs should always be run with the next 2 seasons in mind. I'd go as far as saying  give Reja the aforementioned players, plus a couple more logical signings in the summer, Lazio can challenge for the top 3 next season.

Even Gilardino would be a smart signing, his goals tally in the provinces in recent seasons is very credible.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 24, 2014, 08:20:19 PM
Gilardino would be a great transfer for us, better than Floccari at least eventhough Floccari has saved us many times in the past.

If Gilardino really is for sale we should go for it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 24, 2014, 08:39:11 PM
Did Juventus think 5 years ahead when they signed Pirlo? United last season with Van Persie?

If we'd applied that logic in this decade,  we'd never have signed Klose, Biava and Dias. Football clubs should always be run with the next 2 seasons in mind. I'd go as far as saying  give Reja the aforementioned players, plus a couple more logical signings in the summer, Lazio can challenge for the top 3 next season.

Even Gilardino would be a smart signing, his goals tally in the provinces in recent seasons is very credible.

You have to have a balance, players that can contribute now and others that'll come good or make you money in the future. Pirlo was a 'next 2/3 seasons' signing but that was backed up by them pouring money into their youth system and snapping up shares in the likes of Gabbiadini and Berardi.

Same with Utd, Van Persie was too good to turn down or Buttnar filled a space and little more, but they've also spent way over the odds on the likes of Jones & Smalling with a view to getting a decade of servicr out of them.

I'm all for us spending on someone who'll do a job for a few seasons and improve the side * but I'd also like to see us bringing in younger players that'll have a role to play in the future, not just overgrown kids to beef up the primavera then punt to Salerno.

* Heitinga, Cannavaro and Senderos aren't good enough in my opinion, they'd be depth signings and little more.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 24, 2014, 09:04:52 PM
Lazio and Sassulo meeting tonight for final stages of Floccari deal...great transfer if we can get a little cash for him. But we need someone to replace him really..I hope that person is Gila
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 24, 2014, 09:59:55 PM
In my opinion we already have some very useful young players who have great potential;  crecco, Cataldi, Keita, Onazi, Perea, Elez, Rozzi, maybe even Crescenzi all have bright futures, and they could only learn from the players we''re talking about.

It's the short and medium term that will define our long term, so we need to ensure we are competitive in the next 3 years.

Quagliarella's agent saying he has no interest in leaving Juventus is hardly a surprise; chances are he''ll feature tomorrow night, so imagine he missed a couple of chances while the general consensus is that he wants to play for Lazio? He's simply protecting his clients integrity.

Just read that Dortmund won't meet Inter's demands regarding Ranocchia; he'd be a perfect makeweight in any swap deal.
Anybody who saw him for Bari knows he's a wonderful talent, but that Inter shirt sucks the life out of Italians. Cannavaro looked finished there, yet won the World Player award 2 years later. He'd prosper in a different shade of blue.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 24, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
In my opinion we already have some very useful young players who have great potential;  crecco, Cataldi, Keita, Onazi, Perea, Elez, Rozzi, maybe even Crescenzi all have bright futures, and they could only learn from the players we''re talking about.

Lets not count our chickens before they've hatched, personally I'd be very surprised if more than one of those five goes on to make more than 20 Serie A starts for us, much less makes a meaningful longterm contribution to the side.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2014, 11:48:29 PM
Official statemant for Quagliarella's agent at 19.15u: Fabio is staying at Juve, Lazio was interesting but he has made up his mind.

Second statement from this agent this month both saying thesame thing, what's to believe?
First he's not interested, then supposedly yesterday he asked for shirt nr 27 and today he's again not interested anymore.  This is turning in to a kind of Yilmaz-saga again.
I would say leave it, it can be 'Ronaldo' for all i care, if a player is 'not really interested' in playing for Lazio there will be a lack of motivation anyway.

Wonder if Lotito will turn to someone else next or if Flocc will stay?
Or Flocc will be sold (i hope, to get some money now it's still possible) and Tounkara will get promoted?

Sad enough i'm having to quote myself on this.
Just a few hours later and it's being reported Lotito is looking into Yilmaz again, dear god do not let this circus get started again?  The guy is a mercenary, meaning he's totally unreliable!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 24, 2014, 11:51:54 PM
Lotitos 2nd choice after Quag is Anelka, haha.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 24, 2014, 11:52:49 PM
Now we are aftering Anelka...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 25, 2014, 12:00:50 AM
Did Juventus think 5 years ahead when they signed Pirlo? United last season with Van Persie?

If we'd applied that logic in this decade,  we'd never have signed Klose, Biava and Dias. Football clubs should always be run with the next 2 seasons in mind. I'd go as far as saying  give Reja the aforementioned players, plus a couple more logical signings in the summer, Lazio can challenge for the top 3 next season.

Even Gilardino would be a smart signing, his goals tally in the provinces in recent seasons is very credible.

Juventus didn't think 5 years ahead when they signed Pirlo, but they did when they brought in Pogba as his understudy. And RVP has hardly worked out for United has he? A shortsighted signing that delivered short-term success.

Biava and Dias have been here for 4 years and counting. Somewhere in a five year plan, you would acknowledge that they may lose quality along the way and then you might contemplate a Cannavaro as a stopgap, but as much as Biava and Dias have been excellent for us, they were short-term sightings and so was Klose.

How can you say clubs should think 2 years ahead with such certainty? Using your logic, all those young guns you rate highly should be shipped elsewhere.

If only team building was as simple as you make it out to be.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 12:25:00 AM
In my opinion we already have some very useful young players who have great potential;  crecco, Cataldi, Keita, Onazi, Perea, Elez, Rozzi, maybe even Crescenzi all have bright futures, and they could only learn from the players we''re talking about.

Lets not count our chickens before they've hatched, personally I'd be very surprised if more than one of those five goes on to make more than 20 Serie A starts for us, much less makes a meaningful longterm contribution to the side.

Maybe 4 of them have a small chance, Crescenzi is the only one i'm thinking will never emerge in a first squad appearence.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 12:28:54 AM
Lotitos 2nd choice after Quag is Anelka, haha.

With every other president i would say this is a real early april fool's joke.
But with Lotito i'm believing this, i mean he signed Saha too did'nt hé?
Dear god, here we go again!

Just give up Lotito, really a lot of us wouldn't mind you just promote Tounkara and Elez and leave all the bargains just for what they are, please ...............
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 25, 2014, 12:36:00 AM
Let me get this straight - you guys believe that having spent 10 years fighting against our racist and anti-semitic reputation, Lotito will sign a player serving a ban for an antisemitic gesture?

I guess you dudes believe anything and everything  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 25, 2014, 12:57:13 AM
Aye, the story reeks of a pathetic attempt to get page hits, almost as bad as the Daily Mail (or another of our scummy tabloids) deliberatly misspelling names to get page hits. More page hits, more advertising income.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 25, 2014, 01:07:55 AM
Aye, the story reeks of a pathetic attempt to get page hits, almost as bad as the Daily Mail (or another of our scummy tabloids) deliberatly misspelling names to get page hits. More page hits, more advertising income.

Haha, they deliberately misspell names to get hits? Wowee. Race to the bottom stuff.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 25, 2014, 01:29:17 AM
It's called 'link baiting', their aim's to get the 'mistake' trending on social media and have everybody going to their site for a look. Thankfully people caught on quick so linked to a screenshot rather than the sites themselves.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: birulangit on January 25, 2014, 07:18:41 AM
we are now connected with yilmaz again..

and the story will be as usual.. transfer break down at the last minutes..  :whistle:



the way that lotito ended the negotiation last summer..
im sure he wouldnt want to have anything to do with the agent..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 25, 2014, 07:38:18 AM
I really doubt anelka will ditch the the high-paying EPL to come here, so chill.

if we sell floc i hope we get gila.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jimmy on January 25, 2014, 08:37:34 AM
I mean guys ... Srsly?!?

After all these years under Lotito. After all these signings. After all the dejavus and glitches. Most of you barely learned a thing. Im beginning to question if anyone actually does take some time to think about stuff or people are just trying to blindly compare and measure our acts and results with clubs that are not in our position.

First of all Id like to make it clear that we are in no position to compete on the market with the likes of Juve and the Milanese duo. It has been a trend for a while and now one could add to them three the likes of Napoli, Merda and even Viola. Of course someone has to take the blame for it, and if Mr.L has his due in it, it is not entirely his fault. On the contrary. Unless you`ve been in a coma or you have the brain capacity of a common redneck you must`ve noticed that almost all of the big names ( or so called "champions") we signed had a word or two to say about a project that has been run by Lazio. It used to baffle me, and at times it still does, but it is clear as daylight that if anything ... It is a long term project. And the more i look back at it, the more sense it makes. Of course it could just be me, being optimistic and hoping for a nice blooming period and some blossoming afterwards, but ask yourselves a couple of simple questions: Are we financially secure? Are we fitting the FIFA fairplay criteria? Are we in a better place then we were a few seasons back? More importantly: Are we in a better place from where Cragn. left us at? L. is not a sheikh, nor a stockbrocker gone wild, nor a russian brat. He is just a simple businessman and he is running a business. That`s it. Live with it. If you are not happy, withdraw your pension or whatever and make him an offer.

That aside. How could anyone actually think that we would spend big money in this winter mercato. Even if we forget the fact that there is a huge uncertainty about our coach next season. Even if we forget that we do not tend to invest much in the winter and rather work on coups and deals for the summer. Even if we forget the past mercatos under Reja and his previous demands. Even if we forget that a lot of our "star" players are being hunted and are likely to go in this or in the next transfer window. Putting all of it behind us ... Even a 5yo with the brain capacity of Forest Gump would tell you that we would be looking at loans or short term free agents. It makes no common sense whatsoever to try and reshape the club at this current moment and if most of us might think that our management is silly, i sincerely hope that they are not THAT silly, and by the looks of it they aint.

What we are looking at right now is rather simple. We have got a new/old coach that isnt rly keen on young guys unless they provide on and off the field week in and week out. Not a lot of young players worldwide that could do that, let alone in our squad. So dont get your expectations too high about it unless we get into another injury crysis.

We are with the same coach that threw away a game against his beloved Napoli last time he was in charge, and oh hey ... Here they come again in a few days. Facing us in what could probably be the most vital game of this season. Lets see how that goes down.

I wouldnt say we are beeiming with talent, but we have seen some sparks and it is a must to keep them flames burning. I just hope my previous comment on Reja is wrong or that it is actually Bollini pulling the strings and we do take some risks with the newer generation, at the cost of losing points.

Some players need to pick their game up or go. People have stated that motivation has lacked under Petko, now lets see if things change under the new head. But if not ... Hernanes, Ledesma, Lulic ... The Exit sign is blinking friendly at you.

It seems that my fingers took control over me and wandered in some weird directions and it is almost offtopic. From what Ive seen (mostly speculations ofc) ...

Djordjevic would be a nice addition to our squad, but only as a back up striker at first. I do not trully believe he could possibly step up into the role of our main striker and win us games when we are struggling. So if we do actually sign him in the summer ... Great. But the striker position should be reinforced with another name of higher quality.

At CB ... Cannavaro/Rannochia/Senderos etc ... Forgetting about the swiss for obvious on and off the field reasons, Cannavaro would be the perfectpick for our defensive line. Exactly in the way that Lotare are trying to sign him tho: On loan for six months or on a short-term contract. Either of those and I`ll be happy. If it doesnt go trough ... I wouldnt be too sad about it. Nesta and Staam are out there somewhere and knowing Reja he is keen on having someone close to his age in his squad. Rannochia ... I do not even recall if it was actually in the media or someone in here came up with it. Either way he would be a risk and should be looked at as a second tier defender being signed on loan with an option to buy or a part of an exchange deal with a short-term contract. If he steps his game up with us, great! If not ... Fairwell and thanks for the fish.

As a striker ... Quaq/Gila/etc  ... Id hate to say it again, but ... Loan or short-term. Both of them would actually improve the squad - slightly. Right now. And that`s it. Next year both would be a liability. None of us wants to drift into that agingsquad zone again i believe.

Well I kind of drifted away a bit, so if i may summarize. Do not expect any real signings right now. The focus should be on releasing some players and maybe, just maybe snatching a couple of loan-to-buy or free deals. Anything else would be a mistake at this point.

P.s. I rly hope I`m wrong about Reja and Napoli. Pray with me that I am.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Gianni Calcio on January 25, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
I read another highly unlikely transfer, Javier Hernandez!
No chance but I'd love him to join our club.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 25, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
half of the EPL would sign him if he wants to leave man utd, can't see us offering more than them
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: mamangfreak on January 25, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
how about Antonelli it's true or not?
if it's true, i really glad with that. antonelli was good player, and radu go to cb.
after watch munich vs Mönchengladbach, i happy if lazio buy raffael.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 25, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
Few words on Anelka:


Apparently 3-4 days ago we made contact with him and in light of Anelka`s issues with EPL, he agreed to join us for the rest of the season (with possibility of further continuation).

In the meantime, knowing we have a deal with Anelka, Lotito and Tare intensified efforts to sell Floccari and basically had a deal with Sassuolo (1,5 -1,7 million Euros).

However, few hours later Anelka`s agent calls Tare and tells him that he wants more money for Anelka than previously agreed and now asked now asked sharply one million Euros for 6 months to which Tare rejected and the deal fell off.
Needless to say, now Floccari`s deal is also off until we find a striker.

Genoa offers us some money and favors for some deals so maybe Lotito can pursuade Preziozi to give us Gilardino but that is little possible and logical in light of some good signatures they have made in this window.

Never say never in Serie A of course as one phone call can change everything.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 25, 2014, 02:10:59 PM
So I guess it was more than just rumours. Anelka would do nothing for us, Lotito must be a true spastic for even considering signing Anelka. I have respect for what player Anelka used to be, but he is no longer the same striker. Would be a waste of money for a club who already is very poor.

Do business with Genoa, sign Gila and look at replacing Marchetti with Perin in the summer. He is a huge talent and we need to exploit the fact Genoa seem to be a club we actually can do business with.

Perin, Gila and Antonelli would all be in our starting 11 ( Perin only with Marchetti out though )

Today is the 25th and now we're facing 3 huge Serie A matches against opponents that we will struggle against and Lotito still didn't reinforce the team. It beats me how you people can accept that.

It's sad that our president has no ambitions, what's even more sad is that it seems most Laziali has willingly accepted that and are like..oh well we expected that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 25, 2014, 02:16:26 PM
With Anelka being one of my favouite players since he was playing at Real Madrid,I would buy a jersey with his name on...

I wouldn't mind himm coming on not,he is only a big name afterall now.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 25, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
In my opinion we already have some very useful young players who have great potential;  crecco, Cataldi, Keita, Onazi, Perea, Elez, Rozzi, maybe even Crescenzi all have bright futures, and they could only learn from the players we''re talking about.

Lets not count our chickens before they've hatched, personally I'd be very surprised if more than one of those five goes on to make more than 20 Serie A starts for us, much less makes a meaningful longterm contribution to the side.

The point I'm making is we have players of potential, who may contribute in the future; using what little resources we have on acquiring more would be naïve, the money we have must be spent on players who require no time to develop or adjust to ensure we are competitive.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 25, 2014, 03:48:29 PM
Cannavaro and Quagliarella are NEEDED now. Madness to say they're not, Klose and Biava can injure themselves at any given moment.  We already have few to many imports on our team, time to sign some established Serie A players who know the league.  Bonaventura in the summer.

No they are not needed now. They would be good aditions. I mean our objective is (arguably) to play ok in Serie A and to put a fight in Coppa and EL. I mean we can do this without Cannavaro and Quag. Plus if you think in perspective, would be nicer to use players like Elez, Crecco, Cavanda, Keita, Perea and see what they are worth and if we can count on them next year than bring 2 oldies who will require starter places. Not to mention that trying to integrate Quag next to Klose will imply a complete redesign of the tactics.

Again, I'm not saying that I would not welcome them. If Ciani and Floc leave, it would be great to have Cannavaro and Quag. In my opinion that would improve the average quality of the first team. But it is not a must. It's just a nice to have. We can survive well till summer like this. And I'm not mad!  :bravo: Yet!

In summer we will need to reconsider the team anyway...Biava, Dias, maybe Klose will be gone. Already  positions where we need reinforcements. Would be nice to have Elez and Perea ready. Same for Lulic, Hernanes, Candreva who might get good WC performances and be sold...would be nice to know that we can count on Keita and Felipe Anderson. In my opinion that would be more useful than winning 5 extra points or so this year or qualifying to the EL quater finals instead of getting out before.


of course we need them. we're  6 points out of an EL spot and they would raise the overall quality of our squad. Ciani sucks  and FLoccari is nowhere near the player quagliarella is. We miss europe it becomes harder to sign players in the summer, we make europe, easier it becomes to sign quality players or up and  comers, very simple.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 04:20:17 PM
However, few hours later Anelka`s agent calls Tare and tells him that he wants more money for Anelka than previously agreed and now asked now asked sharply one million Euros for 6 months to which Tare rejected and the deal fell off.
Needless to say, now Floccari`s deal is also off until we find a striker.

This is absolutely typical, thesame kind of person like Yilmaz and his agent, you can never take either one of there word for anything ...
We do not need people like this in the lockerroom, not good for the mentality.
I certainly don't feel bad with this, Anelka is a 6 month solution (if he plays well).

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 04:30:44 PM
Do business with Genoa, sign Gila and look at replacing Marchetti with Perin in the summer. He is a huge talent and we need to exploit the fact Genoa seem to be a club we actually can do business with.
Perin, Gila and Antonelli would all be in our starting 11 ( Perin only with Marchetti out though )

These 3 would also be on my list, but only Antonelli and Gila are possible.  Very little chance of Gila, yesterday he said he would not leave Genoa under any circomstance because this would slim his chance of getting to the WC.  Antonelli is still possible altough this has gone quiet as soon as a 7mill price tag was slapped on him.  Perin would be pure fantasy, this guy is the next Buffon and in my opinion could even be better, an enourmous talent.  Not a chance on earth 'i think' that he would get swapped with Marchetti next season.  He will leave Genoa next season for a 'huge' amount of cash to either Milan or Juve, or maybe a foreign club who playes CL almost every season, i'm sure of this!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 25, 2014, 04:31:10 PM
I prefer playing Perea as a starter every game until the end of the season than buying Anelka and give him 1 mln for 6 months.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
I prefer playing Perea as a starter every game until the end of the season than buying Anelka and give him 1 mln for 6 months.

Damn right, is was already a huge mistake not lining him up after his Coppa-goals against Parma.  This kid will develop more every game.  And he should spend some playing time 'actually' together with Klose on the field.  He should be a starter now already because he is the future first striker of Lazio.  I say sell Flocc now even if no replacement comes in.  Either Perea or Klose to start each match and promote Tounkara to the first team as backup.  Leave the Anelka's, Saha's and others for what they are ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
And another thing, Cavanda keeps getting mentioned and listed up on this forum as youngster and on lists with prospects.

He's 23y and has gotten plenty and i mean plenty of chances in the first squad.  He has not been improving whatsoever in the last 2 season's, especially in defence he always keeps making thesame mistakes. 
I really think he should be a sub as rightwinger when necessary or be sold off.  He will never be good enough to replace Konko or someone else as 1st RB, this is out of the question in my opinion.  So why keep Cavanda at Lazio, we should not have to much trouble selling him?

He is not a youngster anymore or a prospect at his age and the playtime he's already received.

I hope Ciani still goes to Norwich this month, that Flocc leaves for Sassuolo or whatever and also that Cavanda & Pereirinha are put up for sale!!!

Give these chances to actual prospects: Vinicius, Crecco, Elez, Tounkara.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 25, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Now that Liverpool have missed out on Salah, they're reportedly turning to Hernanes. No official word yet on the price, or even if this is just media speculation.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 25, 2014, 06:18:37 PM
Don't know how many of you remember this but Anelka all but joined us in 1999 for 23m. We couldn't agree terms with him before Arsenal's deadline and we pulled out.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 06:29:49 PM
At has been reported that if Djordjevic signs his contract for this summer he will be getting 2.5mill per season!  This would make him the highest paid player in the squad.  Now it's Klose with 2.1mill.
I'm finding this a bit shocking, i mean Klose had nothing to prove, Djordjevic made name for himself at Nantes but that's it ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 25, 2014, 06:33:03 PM
At has been reported that if Djordjevic signs his contract for this summer he will be getting 2.5mill per season!  This would make him the highest paid player in the squad.  Now it's Klose with 2.1mill.
I'm finding this a bit shocking, i mean Klose had nothing to prove, Djordjevic made name for himself at Nantes but that's it ....

Where did you read that? That would be insane.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 25, 2014, 06:36:26 PM
Don't know how many of you remember this but Anelka all but joined us in 1999 for 23m. We couldn't agree terms with him before Arsenal's deadline and we pulled out.

Yes, here is the "Guardian" article about that.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/1999/jul/15/newsstory.sport2 (http://www.theguardian.com/football/1999/jul/15/newsstory.sport2)

At has been reported that if Djordjevic signs his contract for this summer he will be getting 2.5mill per season!  This would make him the highest paid player in the squad.  Now it's Klose with 2.1mill.
I'm finding this a bit shocking, i mean Klose had nothing to prove, Djordjevic made name for himself at Nantes but that's it ....

It looks that Tare really appreciate Fićo.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 06:39:08 PM
Also, it seems Lotito is looking at Farnerud (Torino) at the moment.  This could not be any coincidence as there was a rumour this week of loaning out Anderson to Torino, maybe there's a loanswap coming?
Farnerud is a decent experienced player i think, but wouldn't are MF be getting to crowded for him?
And when Lazio has interest in a player Inter is always not far of (just like with Djordjevic).
Right after this report Inter also expressed interest!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 06:41:07 PM
At has been reported that if Djordjevic signs his contract for this summer he will be getting 2.5mill per season!  This would make him the highest paid player in the squad.  Now it's Klose with 2.1mill.
I'm finding this a bit shocking, i mean Klose had nothing to prove, Djordjevic made name for himself at Nantes but that's it ....

Where did you read that? That would be insane.

Here's the article (lazio24news):

Nonostante le smentite arrivate negli ultimi giorni, Filip Djordjevic è ad un passo dalla Lazio, la cui maglia indosserà dalla prossima stagione. L’attaccante del Nantes avrebbe già trovato l’accordo con la società biancoceleste per il contratto, su cui dovrebbe apporre la firma a breve: stando a quanto riportato dal portale “Europacalcio.it”, il calciatore serbo dovrebbe legarsi alla Lazio con un contratto quadriennale da 2,5 milioni di euro lordi a stagione per i primi tre anni e da 2,7 milioni di euro sempre lordi per la quarta stagione. Inoltre, sarebbero previsti bonus legati alle presenze, alle reti e agli obiettivi raggiunti, oltre che una penale per il giocatore in caso di rescissione unilaterale, cioè 25 milioni di euro nella prima stagione, 23 nella seconda e 15 nella terza.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 25, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
That can't be true. Why would we not offer Hernanes that then?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 25, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
That can't be true. Why would we not offer Hernanes that then?

There's no way that can be true. I'd never even of Djordjevic before he was linked to us. Can't be true.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 25, 2014, 08:20:51 PM
That can't be true. Why would we not offer Hernanes that then?

There's no way that can be true. I'd never even of Djordjevic before he was linked to us. Can't be true.

Well i really hope it's not true either offcourse, it's just what i read and found.
This would stir up a bit of bad blood in the squad i presume?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 25, 2014, 11:51:10 PM
I know, I didn't mean that you were lying or anything, just that whoever wrote that article must be making it up :)

Lotito said before the Juve match, that he will work on making the team stronger and that his work begins after this match.

Usual bullshit, the mercato has been open or almost a month already.

Give Reja something to work with, for crying out loud.

Antonelli and Cannavaro would not be expensive and both would walk straight into the starting 11 most likely. Let Juventus keep Quag, he is not worth it. Go for Gila instead.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 12:02:27 AM
Give Reja something to work with, for crying out loud.

Don't know how you can say that after watching a reshuffled team end Juve's winning streak. He has players to work with. Filling the gaps or adding better than what we have can't be rushed and maybe should wait until the summer.

Remember, Lotito thinks he has a Ferrari, and recent results will only make his opinion stronger.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 26, 2014, 12:04:34 AM
Imagine a Biava injury and a Dias suspension...Need I say more? :vcool:

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 12:06:00 AM
Imagine a Biava injury and a Dias suspension...Need I say more? :vcool:

Fair enough but we have backups for them. Until they are sold we can't bring in more.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Harmi1985 on January 26, 2014, 04:13:17 AM
Our team is shit and the reason why are shit is becouse certain players are shit and how u change that simple you buy better players, now someone please go tell lotito this!!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 26, 2014, 04:27:10 AM
looking at the results under reja.. really hard to prove your pt...we need additions..good ones, hell yes..but now we can't say that the team is shit..

saw smthg regarding anelka's deal that it would be concluded om tuesday !!! GOD forbids
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Bobbi on January 26, 2014, 06:37:38 AM

Antonelli and Cannavaro would not be expensive and both would walk straight into the starting 11 most likely. Let Juventus keep Quag, he is not worth it. Go for Gila instead.

Antonelli, Cannavaro and Gilardino would be a dream. As much as I would love to have them all at Lazio its very unlikely to happen - and especially if no one is sold. The team is overall pretty strong I believe, and Reja has shown us this as well as if you have proper tactics and motivational skills you can achieve a lot.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jeri Darmawan on January 26, 2014, 07:24:16 AM

Antonelli and Cannavaro would not be expensive and both would walk straight into the starting 11 most likely. Let Juventus keep Quag, he is not worth it. Go for Gila instead.

Antonelli, Cannavaro and Gilardino would be a dream. As much as I would love to have them all at Lazio its very unlikely to happen - and especially if no one is sold. The team is overall pretty strong I believe, and Reja has shown us this as well as if you have proper tactics and motivational skills you can achieve a lot.

Just sell Ciani, Pere and mayb Floc.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 26, 2014, 01:31:06 PM
Lotito said yesterday that he will not pay even one euro this mercato and that we only buy with the money we get if we sell somebody. That puts a point to the chase of players like quag etc.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 26, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
Lotito stated:

- Antonelli is not coming, Reja did not request a new player on this position (sadly enough)
- Flocc will not be sold until a new striker should arrive
  (so 50% chance Flocc is staying & 50% chance another washed up type 'Saha' will arrive)
- So there now still looking for a CB (hopefully not Senderos), but same condition, Ciani will have to be   
   sold first

It seems then that Reja asked Lotito for a least on new 'better' CB then Ciani and a new striker with certain qualities Flocc does not have?

I praise Reja's tactics but with this i only partially agree.  Requesting a new striker means he will not rely on Perea, this is wrong in my opinion.  I think Antonelli is needed to continue the 3-4-2-1, because we only have Lulic suitable on that LW, Radu would be a left CB. 
Pereirinha, Cavanda and Ciani need to be sold and 2 good CB's are needed to already start filling in for Biava and Dias who are playing there last season. But sure, with Lotito you can't expect this and Reja knows this just as well.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: EstiKornél on January 26, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
At has been reported that if Djordjevic signs his contract for this summer he will be getting 2.5mill per season!  This would make him the highest paid player in the squad.  Now it's Klose with 2.1mill.
I'm finding this a bit shocking, i mean Klose had nothing to prove, Djordjevic made name for himself at Nantes but that's it ....
It's brutto, not netto. So in real life, it's 1,25 million euro per season.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 26, 2014, 02:05:43 PM
Lotito said yesterday that he will not pay even one euro this mercato and that we only buy with the money we get if we sell somebody. That puts a point to the chase of players like quag etc.

Good to know Lotitos priorities..I mean we're doing great this season right? we're 9th..that's pretty good.

The problem with this is..he wants to save money..fair enough. but by doing that the team remains in it's current state and won't get european football, meaning we lose the money we could potentially get by making ourselves stronger..not to mention that we don't get the publicity we would by taking part in european football.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 26, 2014, 02:55:58 PM
If Lotito is saying we need to sell before buy, where is the money he wanted to spend on Yilmaz? If that deal broke up in the final stages, it means he had those money and he didn't spend them on anybody else. So where is those money?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 02:58:24 PM
If Lotito is saying we need to sell before buy, where is the money he wanted to spend on Yilmaz? If that deal broke up in the final stages, it means he had those money and he didn't spend them on anybody else. So where is those money?

Under a pile of moths... :supsmile: Not sure what money Lotito would have handed over for Yilmaz tbh, probably only about 3-5million with installments.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 26, 2014, 03:00:54 PM
At has been reported that if Djordjevic signs his contract for this summer he will be getting 2.5mill per season!  This would make him the highest paid player in the squad.  Now it's Klose with 2.1mill.
I'm finding this a bit shocking, i mean Klose had nothing to prove, Djordjevic made name for himself at Nantes but that's it ....
It's brutto, not netto. So in real life, it's 1,25 million euro per season.

Aha, thanks for clearing this out for me.  My Italian is really not good enough but i try. 
But looking at the other wages in comparisen this is a reasonably high wage to start at Lazio, considiring he's unproven in Italy, this also means Lotito expects a lot from him?

I read know that Djordjevic will have a 25mill buyout clause in his contract, again meaning he's highly regarded?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 26, 2014, 03:02:17 PM
If Lotito is saying we need to sell before buy, where is the money he wanted to spend on Yilmaz? If that deal broke up in the final stages, it means he had those money and he didn't spend them on anybody else. So where is those money?

Under a pile of moths... :supsmile: Not sure what money Lotito would have handed over for Yilmaz tbh, probably only about 3-5million with installments.

Yes and the money that was available went in to the sigining of Biglia and Anderson (7mill and 9mill).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 26, 2014, 03:08:01 PM
According to Jospeh Lee, Hernanes' agent there is only 200k difference a the moment regarding to renewing his contract.  And as Lotito is saying he is not for sale we can assume this 200k difference will be met and Hernanes will stay at Lazio?

The sooner this is confirmed the better, Hernanes is blooming again under Reja, he can always deliver that little bit extra the squad is missing.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 03:11:06 PM
According to Jospeh Lee, Hernanes' agent there is only 200k difference a the moment regarding to renewing his contract.  And as Lotito is saying he is not for sale we can assume this 200k difference will be met and Hernanes will stay at Lazio?

The sooner this is confirmed the better, Hernanes is blooming again under Reja, he can always deliver that little bit extra the squad is missing.

Thing is, even if Hernanes is going to be sold we should get him to sign a new contract to keep his value. However having said that it depends on what the signing on fee will be and what we have to pay his agent.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 26, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
I think we all should come to terms with the fact we won't get any players in this mercato and no one will leave.

Ciani is injured, no one will buy him now. he might not even be fit in the next week

Lotito seems too stubborn to let Floccari go unless a club pays overprice for him or we're guaranteed to get someone else.

I think for once there's no reason to be online on the last day of the mercato for us, because we're the last club in Italy right now, who is going to buy players.

Out of all the big clubs we have the worst team in terms of starting 11. I can't believe Lotito can't see this.

We can catch up with Verona, but I don't see us keeping up with the other big teams. I think we will end 7th
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 26, 2014, 04:24:08 PM
Dont understand why Djordjevic somehow will get a salary of 2.7 million per annum while marchetti our best player is being benched in favour of some random piece of garbage because he wants a fair raise of 2.5 million.  Disturbing.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 26, 2014, 04:29:50 PM
Dont understand why Djordjevic somehow will get a salary of 2.7 million per annum while marchetti our best player is being benched in favour of some random piece of garbage because he wants a fair raise of 2.5 million.  Disturbing.
That is brutto. Netto will be around 1,5 milion. Like Ledesma and Hernanes, similar.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Dont understand why Djordjevic somehow will get a salary of 2.7 million per annum while marchetti our best player is being benched in favour of some random piece of garbage because he wants a fair raise of 2.5 million.  Disturbing.
That is brutto. Netto will be around 1,5 milion. Like Ledesma and Hernanes, similar.

I don't follow, are all wages not brutto?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 26, 2014, 04:56:18 PM
Dont understand why Djordjevic somehow will get a salary of 2.7 million per annum while marchetti our best player is being benched in favour of some random piece of garbage because he wants a fair raise of 2.5 million.  Disturbing.
That is brutto. Netto will be around 1,5 milion. Like Ledesma and Hernanes, similar.

I don't follow, are all wages not brutto?

Well usually at least in Italy the wages are said in netto, so for example we pay Hernanes 1,7 millions but overall we pay around 3,4 millions as ~50 % will go to taxes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 26, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
Cnon said the point.

Overall for Djordjevic is 2,5 milion. But, he will get around 1,5 milion, actually. Rest are taxes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
Cnon said the point.

Overall for Djordjevic is 2,5 milion. But, he will get around 1,5 milion, actually. Rest are taxes.

No I get that, but when any wage is declared in football it is the gross amount (brutto). Hernanes is not paid 3.4million Euros before tax. He is paid 1.7m before tax. Therefore his net wage is (roughly) 850k before national insurance deductions and whatever.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 26, 2014, 06:15:30 PM
Cnon said the point.

Overall for Djordjevic is 2,5 milion. But, he will get around 1,5 milion, actually. Rest are taxes.

No I get that, but when any wage is declared in football it is the gross amount (brutto). Hernanes is not paid 3.4million Euros before tax. He is paid 1.7m before tax. Therefore his net wage is (roughly) 850k before national insurance deductions and whatever.

No, Hernanes and football players in general make deals how much they earn and the club has to pay them that much + the taxes. I mean for example players change countries where they play so for example somewhere 10 M in brutto might be worse than 8 M in brutto somewhere. For example Zlatan said that he wanted 15 M in netto when he moved to PSG.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 26, 2014, 06:16:41 PM
Cnon said the point.

Overall for Djordjevic is 2,5 milion. But, he will get around 1,5 milion, actually. Rest are taxes.

No I get that, but when any wage is declared in football it is the gross amount (brutto). Hernanes is not paid 3.4million Euros before tax. He is paid 1.7m before tax. Therefore his net wage is (roughly) 850k before national insurance deductions and whatever.

hmm i think  he's paid 1.7 after tax, Gazzetta released the player salaries a few years ago and it was labelled as net. hernanes was at 1.7 mill
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 26, 2014, 06:18:51 PM
Don't believe that is that kind of situation. Newspapers had net wage. Gazzeta publishes every year, and believe that is net wage.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 26, 2014, 06:20:19 PM
http://tifosobilanciato.it/en/2013/09/09/stipendi-della-serie-a-201314-ecco-le-tabelle-della-gazzetta/ (http://tifosobilanciato.it/en/2013/09/09/stipendi-della-serie-a-201314-ecco-le-tabelle-della-gazzetta/)

serie A salaries as of this year, net
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 26, 2014, 06:20:51 PM
Maybe these help, I don't know as I don't understand Italian good enough.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/29w4em8.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/w06pll.jpg)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 26, 2014, 06:45:27 PM
I get what Gio is saying. The question here is why all salaries is stated in netto and all of a sudden Djordjevic salary is in brutto as you guys claim it is. Doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 06:50:56 PM
Certainly according to that report, the total team salary is before tax but the individual player's salaries are after tax.

Weird still that they report Djordjevic before tax. Hope it is the before tax figure...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 26, 2014, 06:52:07 PM
Djordjevic salary is expressed in brutto, that stand in text on LLSN. But, why, I do not know. :supsmile:
Doesn't have sense to give him so much money immediately. Will see when he put signature or in summer, when Gazzeta publishes again salary cap.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 26, 2014, 06:56:27 PM
Djordjevic salary is expressed in brutto, that stand in text on LLSN. But, why, I do not know. :supsmile:
Doesn't have sense to give him so much money immediately. Will see when he put signature or in summer, when Gazzeta publishes again salary cap.  :supsmile:

I think I can breathe easy again, thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 27, 2014, 09:27:20 AM
I missed the past 10 pages and I don't have the nerves to check all of them... can someone tell me what I've missed? Who is the new target? Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 09:39:47 AM
I missed the past 10 pages and I don't have the nerves to check all of them... can someone tell me what I've missed? Who is the new target? Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink?

Close  :bravo: Anelka!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 09:42:52 AM
So, apparently we are negotiating again Hernanes's renewal at 2.2 mil per season and a release clause of 30-40 mil.

We are very close to selling Floc to Sassuolo for 1.8 mil - a good amount for a contract expiring 32 yo striker in my opinion.

There are various rumors about us trying to get Anelka for 6 months. Jesus!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 27, 2014, 10:04:55 AM
 New contract for Hernanes will be perfect.After last match we saw that he isn't for sale.
 Anelka ? - To good to be true  :vcool:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Done on January 27, 2014, 10:34:40 AM
I remember Cragnotti badly wanted to sign Anelka at 20 ... But, at this stage of his carrer, I mean wtf!?  :sevil: 
Spend some cash, you fuker, we only need one defender (P.Cannavaro) and one class striker. MIdfield is complete, will gel, and will be among the best in the league.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 27, 2014, 11:10:50 AM
winter transfer are more expensive than summer ones! have than in mind and the spending qualities of our president :)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 11:27:21 AM
Berisha failed to impress me and his positioning is pretty poor. I would say that his mistake costed us the win on Saturday, I know that some people will disagree and I accept that he pulled out some good saves too. I think he is not yet mature and we need to keep Marchetti as main goalie.

The defense looked pretty ok too but we have to consider there that Biava and Dias will not make it throught the season and will get eventually injured. So especially with Ciani leaving and the fact that Nova is not at a certain standard (yet), we need a defender. Good signals from Elez, but I think he is used more as DM. Good performance by Cana as defender on Saturday.

Especially after seeing that Ledesma can work with Biglia almost perfectly, I would say that our current midfield is more than enough.

The attack is the question mark for me. Klose seems pretty determined to stay injury free and to impress so that he secures his NT place. Perea seemed ready to come in when needed. And Keita had some good actions on Saturday but Reja uses him more as AM. I've heard that Sculli is back in training. I hoped not to see the guy anymore around Lazio. Anyhow, I would say that if Floc leaves an addition would be good. We can probably do without anybody, but if we want to progress might be useful to have somebody new.

All in all, we are in pretty ok shape and I dont understand people screaming for Lotito to make transfers and to spend cash. If anybody leaves, sure, we can try to find replacements. I would prefer to look into solutions for future like Djordjevic or Pasalic rather than 6 months deals like Anelka.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 11:30:34 AM
It's reported that Lotito has raised his bid for Mario Pasalic (Hajduk) to 2.8mill, he must really want this youth-player?

Also vage rumours about Lazio interest for Schalke-talent MF Leon Goretzka.  Huge talent, to good te be true i guess?

It seems Lotito asked Real for Morata on loan, it was a clear no, so now Lotito might bring back Rozzi to Lazio who is on loan there?

And Anelka is a definit NO, pfff, luckely?

Still rumours about Lotito pushing for Bendtner tough?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 27, 2014, 11:41:38 AM
It's reported that Lotito has raised his bid for Mario Pasalic (Hajduk) to 2.8mill, he must really want this youth-player?

Also vage rumours about Lazio interest for Schalke-talent MF Leon Goretzka.  Huge talent, to good te be true i guess?

It seems Lotito asked Real for Morata on loan, it was a clear no, so now Lotito might bring back Rozzi to Lazio who is on loan there?

And Anelka is a definit NO, pfff, luckely?

Still rumours about Lotito pushing for Bendtner tough?

I'd rather have Bendtner than Anelka and that says alot!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 27, 2014, 11:49:52 AM
Berisha failed to impress me and his positioning is pretty poor. I would say that his mistake costed us the win on Saturday,

Give up already draz, you're the only one he failed to impress yet. He didn't do a mistake against juve, no goalie in the world would've saved that if he didn't stand by the back post. And that would've been wrong positioning.

It sounds like you have something against the guy since you bring up your dissapointent over Berisha very randomly. Critisize him in his thread if you must, but offtopic without reason in Transfers & Rumours?

Jese Rodriguez, the new name for our attacking department. Mission impossible.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
Berisha failed to impress me and his positioning is pretty poor. I would say that his mistake costed us the win on Saturday,

Give up already draz, you're the only one he failed to impress yet. He didn't do a mistake against juve, no goalie in the world would've saved that if he didn't stand by the back post. And that would've been wrong positioning.

It sounds like you have something against the guy since you bring up your dissapointent over Berisha very randomly. Critisize him in his thread if you must, but offtopic without reason in Transfers & Rumours?

Jese Rodriguez, the new name for our attacking department. Mission impossible.

My point was that we cant sell Marchetti and rely on Berisha. That is a transfer thing if you ask me. Anyhow, I won't go on with this.

A lot of names mentioned now:

Livaja (Atalanta) as a loan + 5.5 mil riscatto
Jese Rodriguez (Real) but for loan + 15 mil riscatto + 20 mil buy back clause it is mission impossible indeed
Lakic (Frankfurt) 30 yo friend of Tare
Pasalic (Hajduk) for 2.8 mil
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 12:24:12 PM

A lot of names mentioned now:
Livaja (Atalanta) as a loan + 5.5 mil riscatto
Jese Rodriguez (Real) but for loan + 15 mil riscatto + 20 mil buy back clause it is mission impossible indeed
Lakic (Frankfurt) 30 yo friend of Tare
Pasalic (Hajduk) for 2.8 mil
[/quote]

Lakic, 'oh my god', this guy is not even half the player Floccari is!
Friend of Tare, says a lot ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 27, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
Berisha failed to impress me and his positioning is pretty poor. I would say that his mistake costed us the win on Saturday,

Give up already draz, you're the only one he failed to impress yet. He didn't do a mistake against juve, no goalie in the world would've saved that if he didn't stand by the back post. And that would've been wrong positioning.

It sounds like you have something against the guy since you bring up your dissapointent over Berisha very randomly. Critisize him in his thread if you must, but offtopic without reason in Transfers & Rumours?

Jese Rodriguez, the new name for our attacking department. Mission impossible.

Completely right. Any goalkeeper worth his salt would, when faced with a near post cross, be positioned at the near post. Llorente's header was a freak of nature  :supsmile: it not only found the top corner but did so after going almost 20 feet in the air.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 27, 2014, 12:49:16 PM
Anelka, Lakic, Jese, Morata? Has Lotito gone crazy?  :what:
The first two are Serie C material while the other two will never come to a club like Lazio. Morata was and still is wanted at Arsenal and Real won't let him go so why should they let him come to Rome? Jese is one of their rising stars and it would be pure stupidity to let that kid go and I'm 100% sure that they won't do that.

Livaja? He used to be a great talent but in the past couple of years he has shown nothing. He got his chances at Atalanta and didn't amaze me or anyone else. I'd rather give a chance to Tounkara.

If Lazio are planning to buy a striker it should be someone who is reliable and knows how to score goals. We can't find another Klose but someone close to his great skills will be awesome. Non of the reported strikers that Lazio are looking at have the qualities to play next to Klose and can never replace him as Lazio's new top striker.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: H A S on January 27, 2014, 01:12:12 PM
Media is reaching after every name they can come up with. It's always like this when we are passive in the marcato. I mean how many names have'nt they associated with us? Anelka, Lakic, Morata, Jesé, Pasalic, Zaza, Gilardino and so on.

The only reasonable rumours are about Djorjevic and Pasalic. And both of them would come in july.

Are Pasalic a midfielder or attacker? When we bought Elez, I thought that he was a CB. My hope was that he would get primavera action and be ready for the senior squad in 2014-2015. But now I see that Inzaghi is using him as a midfielder. Very confusing.   

 
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 27, 2014, 01:32:09 PM
I saw the stuff about Leon Goretzka as well. This isn't a " rumour " but instead a Lazio fan page who makes a long list of suggested players we should look at, especially big talents. Leon Goretzka IS big talent but he would never come here, would be a step down in his career at this stage.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 27, 2014, 01:35:43 PM
Berisha failed to impress me and his positioning is pretty poor. I would say that his mistake costed us the win on Saturday...


Find one newspaper or commentator who agrees with you and I will leave this forum for good.
Lorente`s shot was absolutely impossible to predict. Even Biava who was there with Lorente and guarding him was left stunned when the ball went it.

You guys sometime fail to comprehend that football is sometimes not mathematics but a strike of luck, a strike of genious.

Mentioning his "mistake" as you call it and failure to mention Berisha`s stunning save and excellent positions on Llorente`s shot (35th minute) tells that you either fancy too much Marchetti or simply don`t like Berisha at all.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Are Pasalic a midfielder or attacker? When we bought Elez, I thought that he was a CB. My hope was that he would get primavera action and be ready for the senior squad in 2014-2015. But now I see that Inzaghi is using him as a midfielder. Very confusing.   

Well, Mario Pasalic is an central midfielder with a more forward nature then defensive.
But i think this kid would probably join Elez in the primavera for a few runs?

Josip Elez is indeed a CB also bought from Hajduk.  Altough in the primavera he immediately stood up as a leader-figure and was posted as a defensive midfielder because of his strength, elegacence of play and very good technic.  A real prospect this one!

Instead of Pasalic i would have expected Lotito would have gone for Antonio Milic (CB, also Hajduk).
A good CB-prospect that would have been more logical regarding to our old defense.
He was followed last mercato, don't know why Lazio doesn't want him anymore?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Ed on January 27, 2014, 01:52:09 PM
With the complete direness of most "rumours", I reckon it's best for continued good health to forget about transfers and enjoy the rest of the week safe in the knowledge that there will always be the traditional meltdown on the deadline day at ATA Hotel to go crazy about! 

It reminds me of a moment in a great Vic and Bob sketch "The Club" where one character was excited about who the new compere was going to be;

Paul "I have in my hand the contract"
Tony "Who's it gonna be Paul?"
Paul "For one night only.... Les Dennis!"
Tony "Les Dennis? Who e he?!"

The look of complete and utter bewilderment and disappointment on Tony's face is a picture and just what I can imagine us all looking like as some unknown last minute deal is completed!  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 27, 2014, 02:17:15 PM
Never thought I'd see the name Les Dennis in a Lazio forum.  :wow:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 04:01:03 PM
Apparently we have signed Pasalic for 2.8 mil. Attacking midfielder, ready for the first team. Good promise for the future and a good investment if you ask me. Some compare him with Stankovic.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 27, 2014, 04:29:24 PM
Draz: Where do you see that? the latest I saw was that the garbage men were trying to sign him too, but that he was more focused on us. Is there anything official..or is it still just " official " ?  :whistle:

Also:

nicolas anelka ‏@anelkaofficiel 26m
Thanks to Lazio & all the others clubs who wanted to sign me this last days. See you this summer if I decide to continue...
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Thank the fuc king gods..now I can go to sleep tonight with a lower blood pressure than usual...This club will kill me one day.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 27, 2014, 04:37:49 PM
 We still have time four days.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
Draz: Where do you see that? the latest I saw was that the garbage men were trying to sign him too, but that he was more focused on us. Is there anything official..or is it still just " official " ?  :whistle:

Also:

nicolas anelka ‏@anelkaofficiel 26m
Thanks to Lazio & all the others clubs who wanted to sign me this last days. See you this summer if I decide to continue...
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Thank the fuc king gods..now I can go to sleep tonight with a lower blood pressure than usual...This club will kill me one day.

econdo indiscrezioni raccolte in Esclusiva dalla nostra redazione, l'Hajduk ha accettato la proposta da 2.8 milioni del club biancoceleste e l'affare verrà ratificato nelle prossime ore. Restano da limare alcuni dettagli con il calciatore, ma ormai la fumata bianca è a un passo.

and yes, praise the Lord for Anelka! I was so afraid that we will get a new Saha!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 27, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
About Mario Pašalić, I hope the idea is to NOT put him on the primavera.

And honestly..just promote Elez already..use Elez and this new kid in the Serie A..rather that than buying +30 year old players. This season might be over soon for us anyway, in the Serie A I mean.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 27, 2014, 04:44:55 PM
I think Pasalic is too god for Primavera. He (unlike the others) plays already in the senior team at Hajduk. He is considered better than Kovacic. I'm not gonna say I know this guy cause I don't. But from what I read he might be a great transfer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 27, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
Pasalic is scoring goals for fun in Croatia, whereas Elez had played something like 100 minutes of professional football before he joined us. No comparison. I never understood why anyone thought he was ever intended for the first team - clearly not good enough. Also bear in mind that in the summer, Reja said in an interview that Elez was not Lazio standard (he's coached him, let's not forget) - do not expect him to ever play for us.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 27, 2014, 05:04:16 PM
Pasalic? Hajduk Split is one of best clubs in Europe producing talent (meaning they have serious school) and playing in Italy is very close to home in all aspects, so why not? 

Floccari? In contrary to what other voices may suggest I say let him stay because we 1- Lack of strikers 2- Whoever will come in instead might be even bigger gamble 3- When Klose breaks you want to be left with the kids? Please

Lotito is one very strange human being, coughing up crazy sums for mediocre pieces and loosing millions on stubbornness

I (don't believe it will happen but) personally think the priority now should be to get Antonelli this week because Radu/Konko/Pere are made of glass and DO NOT SELL anyone except Ciani (I don't think Lotare will be able to sell/bring anyone else anyway before deadline) leaving us with an ok/good setup until summer;

Marchetti, Berisha

Radu, Konko, Biava, Cana, Dias, Nova, Pere, Luis

Mauri, Lulic, Biglia, Ledesma, Hernanes, Anderson, Tata, Candreva

Klose, Flocc, Perea, Keita 
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 27, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
...Reja said in an interview that Elez was not Lazio standard (he's coached him, let's not forget) - do not expect him to ever play for us.


Well you rush on this one here Cathal.

Reja is not a saint to know how one player may develop in the future and may have it wrong here or there.
Since his arrival only good things have been spoken of Elez and if he continues like this I would not be surprised one bit if he is called for an entire summer camp with the senior team come July
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 27, 2014, 05:09:02 PM
From reports about our primavera matches, Elez is the name that is mentioned along with Fiore, Tounkara and of course Keita whenever he plays. I pray he is given a chance in the first team.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 05:21:16 PM
...Reja said in an interview that Elez was not Lazio standard (he's coached him, let's not forget) - do not expect him to ever play for us.


Well you rush on this one here Cathal.

Reja is not a saint to know how one player may develop in the future and may have it wrong here or there.
Since his arrival only good things have been spoken of Elez and if he continues like this I would not be surprised one bit if he is called for an entire summer camp with the senior team come July

It's true that when Elez was signed he was according to 'the experts' not ready for the first team, wich is hard to disagree with?
But it has also been said that he made 'enormous' progress playing with the primavera regulating MF with elegance and technic. 
So you actually might get a shot in the first team very soon?

It seems quit sure that Elez, Keita and Tounkara will be regular first team players in the near future?
God forbid Lotito sells either one!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
Apparently we have signed Pasalic for 2.8 mil. Attacking midfielder, ready for the first team. Good promise for the future and a good investment if you ask me. Some compare him with Stankovic.

It looks that way but nothing has been confirmed whatsoever?
Today it has only been made clear (via Hajduk) that Lazio is getting competition from Frankfurt in signing this kid, but that Lazio are in the 'lead' to sign him with there current bid.
There is also still a chance he might actually come to Lazio on loan first, before actually being sold?
So if he puts pen to paper with Lazio he should arrive this summer 'on loan' or are immediatly 'permanent'.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Rumour going around this afternoon that Hernanes has agreed 'personal terms' with Inter!
This would be contradicting himself, saying just this weekend he's committed to Lazio and not thinking about leaving?  If there's some truth in this (and i clearly say IF) it would be disappointing from him as a person and Lazio-icon.

We really need to keep him on (if he's motivated offcourse?), for competing still on 3 fronts.
It's also said, no agreement with Lotito 'yet', so knowing our president this will not happen just like that unless Inter are putting up a 'ridiculous' amount?

Inter would be keen on involving Icardi, Andreolli and Livaja in this deal, Lotito however recently said he only wants money from Inter.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 27, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
Rumour going around this afternoon that Hernanes has agreed 'personal terms' with Inter!
This would be contradicting himself, saying just this weekend he's committed to Lazio and not thinking about leaving?  If there's some truth in this (and i clearly say IF) it would be disappointing from him as a person and Lazio-icon.

We really need to keep him on (if he's motivated offcourse?), for competing still on 3 fronts.
It's also said, no agreement with Lotito 'yet', so knowing our president this will not happen just like that unless Inter are putting up a 'ridiculous' amount?

Inter would be keen on involving Icardi, Andreolli and Livaja in this deal, Lotito however recently said he only wants money from Inter.

i had a weird dream that we sold Hernanes for a 60 m $ to inter !! :razz: :razz:
lotito's argument that he couldn't say no to that offer!  i just woke up and jumped to my pc to see what's happening and i found this...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 05:53:40 PM
Rumour going around this afternoon that Hernanes has agreed 'personal terms' with Inter!
This would be contradicting himself, saying just this weekend he's committed to Lazio and not thinking about leaving?  If there's some truth in this (and i clearly say IF) it would be disappointing from him as a person and Lazio-icon.

We really need to keep him on (if he's motivated offcourse?), for competing still on 3 fronts.
It's also said, no agreement with Lotito 'yet', so knowing our president this will not happen just like that unless Inter are putting up a 'ridiculous' amount?

Inter would be keen on involving Icardi, Andreolli and Livaja in this deal, Lotito however recently said he only wants money from Inter.

i had a weird dream that we sold Hernanes for a 60 m $ to inter !! :razz: :razz:
lotito's argument that he couldn't say no to that offer!  i just woke up and jumped to my pc to see what's happening and i found this...

Well i'm sorry to disappoint you, yes 60mill can't be refused that's true!
Butt then again, don't you wonder what Lotito would do with that money, he might get a couple of 'star-33y olds'???
I think we are better of having Hernanes on our squad!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 27, 2014, 05:57:14 PM
i was so happy man not disappointed at all !! it's just a dream like when you wake up thinking you have a ferrari and ending up with ur mediocre car !! hahahhah :whistle:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: rich on January 27, 2014, 06:05:28 PM
Football italia report the rumor as well

http://www.football-italia.net/44400/hernanes-yes-inter-but%E2%80%A6 (http://www.football-italia.net/44400/hernanes-yes-inter-but%E2%80%A6)









Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 27, 2014, 06:19:08 PM
Now I am super confused.

lets first focus on the negative side of this. If this transfer happens then I will be seriously pissed off with Hernanes and Lotito...stop feeding the fans with bullshit. If Hernanes leaves for Inter then he is just another addition to a group of players I despise..not for joining Inter, but for being full of shit and for lying to people who chant his name and support him.

Secondly...how the hell can they even have an agreement with Hernanes without having agreed with us. That's a violation of Fifa/Uefa rules..if they contacted Hernanes without us giving them the go ahead for it. Sue the pricks if that is the case.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 27, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
Now I am super confused.

lets first focus on the negative side of this. If this transfer happens then I will be seriously pissed off with Hernanes and Lotito...stop feeding the fans with bullshit. If Hernanes leaves for Inter then he is just another addition to a group of players I despise..not for joining Inter, but for being full of shit and for lying to people who chant his name and support him.

Secondly...how the hell can they even have an agreement with Hernanes without having agreed with us. That's a violation of Fifa/Uefa rules..if they contacted Hernanes without us giving them the go ahead for it. Sue the pricks if that is the case.

See, this part confuses me. We read it quite often these days. We apparently agreed terms with Quagliarella a few weeks ago yet Juve rejected any (reported) proposals.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 27, 2014, 07:28:44 PM
I suppose (if it's true) there's perhaps been contact between representatives of Inter & Hernanes agent or someone linked to him. I doubt anything'll be set in stone but they'll have maybe talked wages and if Hernanes would be interested in a move. I mean there's no point in trying to negotiate a fee and everything at club level if the player's going to turn round and refuse to move.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 07:44:36 PM
Secondly...how the hell can they even have an agreement with Hernanes without having agreed with us. That's a violation of Fifa/Uefa rules..if they contacted Hernanes without us giving them the go ahead for it. Sue the pricks if that is the case.

Well i would not be surprised Inter would try this (if the rumour has truth offcours?).  That's clearly how they work,  they tried to sign Djordjevic as well did'nt they?  They watch other clubs complete negotiations and do all the work and scouting, and then when there is almost an agreement they step in and add a little bit extra to the proposed salary?  Remember that youth-talent Laxalt, thesame thing ass what almost happened with Djordjevic!
I personnaly do not want any businnes whatsoever with that club, Lotito might still think thesame way after what they tried with Djordjevic?  And we al know the man is pretty stubborn?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 07:54:39 PM
OMG, that horror-rumour from yesterday has been confirmed, Lakic acknowledges contact with Lazio!
30y old striker, who fails everywhere he goes (a friend of Tare?).
Please lord almighty, don't let this happen, let it be a 'shameless' rumour?
This is even worse then the Anelka-thing.

And on brighter news (almost an hour ago), Lotito 'warns' Inter - Hernanes NOT for sale !!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 27, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
It's becoming clear that there are not many strikers available across Europe and that we are failing miserably to lure anyone in.

This may deserve a topic of its own, but I cannot believe Lotito attempted to sign Anelka. Talk about trying to destroy any international reputation that we have left? That would have been catastrophic.

Also, the fact there are a number of Croatians claiming we have been in contact with them makes me think there's something more sinister going on. Could we be lining up Igor Tudor as our next manager (Hajduk Split coach, Edy Reja's old assistant, 9 years Serie A experience as a player)? Purely speculating, but nobody pursues so many Croatians without having a clear reason for doing so...

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 27, 2014, 08:38:53 PM
I doubt it's anything as sinister as that, we're probably going for them because their quite cheap and Croatia recently joined the EU, all of a sudden these kids don't count towards our non EU quota.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 27, 2014, 08:45:07 PM
I doubt it's anything as sinister as that, we're probably going for them because their quite cheap and Croatia recently joined the EU, all of a sudden these kids don't count towards our non EU quota.

Santini and Lakic are neither cheap (both owned by German clubs) or good enough at this moment in time. If it's nothing sinister, it's very lazy.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 27, 2014, 08:49:04 PM
Inter is about to panic with their late results so Thorir/Inter might actually push the panic button and give Mazzarri what he really wants - Hernanes. Lotito plays hardball with them but that way we actually could get a decent compensation. Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 27, 2014, 09:16:37 PM
Inter is about to panic with their late results so Thorir/Inter might actually push the panic button and give Mazzarri what he really wants - Hernanes. Lotito plays hardball with them but that way we actually could get a decent compensation. Let's wait and see.

makes very much sense putting it this way plus this rumors of Pasilic (replacement?) already "done" you might have something there. Hernanes (and the vultures feeding off him) may get an offer they simply "can't" refuse. On the other hand, Reja might again be very furious having to cope without profeta (unless Pasalic was his own idea for replacement, but I doubt) then it'll turn out ugly 
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 10:08:03 PM

makes very much sense putting it this way plus this rumors of Pasilic (replacement?) already "done" you might have something there. Hernanes (and the vultures feeding off him) may get an offer they simply "can't" refuse. On the other hand, Reja might again be very furious having to cope without profeta (unless Pasalic was his own idea for replacement, but I doubt) then it'll turn out ugly
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I don't think for one second Pasalic is Reja's idea of a replacement for Hernanes, this would be quit naieve.  I'm very sure Reja is counting on Hernanes so yes things could get very ugly if Lotito were to be dazzled by some huge Inter bid.  But i doubt Inter will come up with 25mill or more to create any doubt?  And offcourse 'beside the rumour' there is no real confirmation that Hernanes wants to leave or go to Inter?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Miro on January 27, 2014, 10:42:40 PM
Football italia report the rumor as well

[url]http://www.football-italia.net/44400/hernanes-yes-inter-but%E2%80%A6[/url] ([url]http://www.football-italia.net/44400/hernanes-yes-inter-but%E2%80%A6[/url])


Well if this is true and Inter is negotiating with Lotito, he should ask only for money or Kovacic plus money.We shouldn't settle for their second rate talent like Icardi and Livaja.Kovacic would be great replacement for Hernanes.He is only 19 and has world class potential.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2014, 10:48:31 PM
OMG, that horror-rumour from yesterday has been confirmed, Lakic acknowledges contact with Lazio!
30y old striker, who fails everywhere he goes (a friend of Tare?).
Please lord almighty, don't let this happen, let it be a 'shameless' rumour?
This is even worse then the Anelka-thing.

There are claims (lazio24news) that Lakic is already a done deal and Floccari is on his way to Sassuolo?
I'm not 100% sure, it's all in italian, i can't make everything out.
Really hope this is not correct, a nightmare.  We are already a laughing stock with this approach to Anelka and then him even refusing to come, it's on all the usual sites.  So demeaning .....  :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 27, 2014, 11:32:09 PM
Anyone knows how reliable Il Tiempo usually is?

They claim Tare said he is looking at one of Huntelaar, Altintop and this guy:

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/mohammed-abdellaoue/profil/spieler_61901.html (http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/mohammed-abdellaoue/profil/spieler_61901.html)

look at his injury list  :bravo:

He never mentioned Lakic though
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 27, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
look at Srđan Lakićs scoring record, it's awful in bad clubs.

If we sign him as a replacement for Floc then we're actually getting worse than we were before.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 12:35:02 AM
look at Srđan Lakićs scoring record, it's awful in bad clubs.

This is why I am convinced there's something going on with this excessive interest in Croatians.

It has been confirmed one way or the other that we are or have been in negotiations with Lakic, Santini and Pasalic and today, we have been linked heavily with Livaja. The only other player/agent/president to claim we have been contacted by Lazio (to my knowledge) is Anelka. So 3/4 of our confirmed targets are Croatian.

Reja knows Pasalic and Livaja from his brief few months with Hajduk Split, but that doesn't suffice as an explanation.

The reason why I am suspicious is because we know Lotito and Tare tend to deal with a limited amount of contacts. If we're chasing a bunch of Croatians, there is a common denominator - it's just not clear yet who or what that is.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 28, 2014, 01:00:18 AM
Another name being linked to us is Helder Postiga. I know he's only 31 but he looks well past it, 3 goals in 15 league games (9) starts isn't encouraging.

The only time I've seen him over 90 mins this season was Valencia's EL game against Swansea, probably not the best one to judge him from as they spent most of the game with 10 men and got whipped 3-0, but when Valencia did go forward he looked hopeless, a big lumbering lump that was easily closed down and anticipated by Swansea's defense.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 28, 2014, 02:13:08 AM
The names we have been linked with over the last few weeks have made me want to facepalm all the time. It's just unbearable watching all the other top sides in Italy sign players (or at least trying to) while all we have is speculation about players that I never want to see come here. Lakic, Anelka and Bendtner might combine for a total of 5 goals for the rest of the season. Just sign Djordjevic and get us a defender Lotito; it's really that simple.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 04:57:34 AM
look at Srđan Lakićs scoring record, it's awful in bad clubs.

This is why I am convinced there's something going on with this excessive interest in Croatians.

It has been confirmed one way or the other that we are or have been in negotiations with Lakic, Santini and Pasalic and today, we have been linked heavily with Livaja. The only other player/agent/president to claim we have been contacted by Lazio (to my knowledge) is Anelka. So 3/4 of our confirmed targets are Croatian.

Reja knows Pasalic and Livaja from his brief few months with Hajduk Split, but that doesn't suffice as an explanation.

The reason why I am suspicious is because we know Lotito and Tare tend to deal with a limited amount of contacts. If we're chasing a bunch of Croatians, there is a common denominator - it's just not clear yet who or what that is.

Bit like the Vinicius signing, eh?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 28, 2014, 05:04:51 AM
it's really becoming woefully annoying !!
ok pasalic maybe due to the potential he MIGHT have... but this lakic !! santini .... anelkaaa...i cannot tolerate this chit no more ...
read smthg about huntelaar but that's definitely a hard shot ..anyhow..

I'm really fed up with all these bullshit names...
give us cannavaro and guag or none !!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: nesta13 on January 28, 2014, 05:21:22 AM
LOLITOOO AND FRENDS OUT!!!

He is very very lack of ambitions and knows nothing about football. sigh...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 28, 2014, 06:49:32 AM
I really don't care about this gemellaggio Lazio ultras have with Inter, so I say fuk Inter, I hate that club as much as Milan. Why do they always look at Lazio and our players when they want to sign somebody. Veron, Crespo, Pandev, Stankovic, Favalli, Almeyda, Vieri, Conceição, Ballotta, Mihajlovic etc etc. Hands off Hernanes, Lazio is not feeder club to that ugly club.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 08:22:06 AM
So, today we are pretty close to Helder Postiga of Valencia.


Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 28, 2014, 09:29:14 AM
From all the strange names I read that Lazio want Postiga looks like the best choice. He is a Portugal NT player, he can score goals and won't be expensive.

All the other players - Lakic, Abdellaoue, Altintop, Huntelaar, Anelka, Santini and all the other know and unknown strikers aren't a good choice for Lazio for one reason or another - some aren't good strikers while others are injury prone.

If a striker has to come then I'll be happy to see Postiga at Lazio but honestly I'd rather give Tounkara and Keita more playing time.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 28, 2014, 09:42:08 AM
Isn't Postiga 32 years old? He's an interesting option but how would that help us in the future? Is lotito only looking to secure the coming two seasons or what?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 09:55:59 AM
Isn't Postiga 32 years old? He's an interesting option but how would that help us in the future? Is lotito only looking to secure the coming two seasons or what?

It seems Lotito wants to rent Postiga till end of season with an option to buy?
Valencia is reported to be willing to go along, it's probably just about convincing Postiga himself?
This news today seems a bit more concrete then all the crap we had to swallow the last few days.
I think he's the 'less' worst option that's been linked to us this week.
He really can score a decisive goal but does not contribute much to the gameplay.

I'm also very glad the read today that this B-player Lakic is more out of our rader, luckely!
Also happy to hear that the interest in Livaja was mostly smoke, we are not interested due to his character?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 09:58:06 AM
Again today Lotito stated 'Hernanes not for sale', unless a 'dazzling' bid should come in then only i will think about it, nothing more!
I think Lotito is also fed up with Inter's 'sneaky' businnes, i hope so to, hate them even more then Milan personally.  Lotito is a stubborn one and won't forget they stole away that Laxalt-kid last year and recently tried to grab Djordjevic out of our hands and also according to yesterday's rumours they tried to take Pasalic as well?
I want Hernanes here at Lazio or only sold for a 'huge' amount to a club outside of Italy!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 10:02:08 AM
A lot of talk today that Marchetti is 'actually' staying on the bench the last games and probably again tomorrow because of an upcoming transferdeal?
It's said that Andujar then would arrive on loan after Napoli buy him from Catania this mercato?

Big question this ???
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 10:04:55 AM
An interesting rumor concerned the goalkeeper Andujar.

For those who do not know: Napoli already bought Andujar for next season because Reina will leave the club (probably Barca) after the loan expires.

So, Napoli is left with Rafael and Andujar, but probably neither very convincing.

So, they could give us Andujar + money for Marchetti for next season. But this is just my hunch.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 28, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
So, I searched youtube for Pasalic and this is what I got:

Tatjana Pasalic - WPT Poker Magazine Photoshoot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8j5mojGip8#)

Interesting prospect.. anyone not willing to welcome Pasalic with open arms?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
So, I searched youtube for Pasalic and this is what I got:

Tatjana Pasalic - WPT Poker Magazine Photoshoot ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8j5mojGip8#[/url])

Interesting prospect.. anyone not willing to welcome Pasalic with open arms?


Defenitly ready for the first team!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 28, 2014, 10:51:59 AM
So, Floccari is a 'done deal' apparently, emptied his locker and on his way to Sassuolo.

If we let Floccari go, I'm almost positive Lotito has a replacement lined up and probably/hopefully not anyone we've been linked to so far. He always seems to pull one out of the hat so I'd guess a benchwarmer from Ligue 1 or maybe La Liga will come.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 10:56:49 AM
Well Floccari seems on his way to Sassuolo and has already cleared the lockers at Formello and he is expected to sign in the afternoon hours.


This probably means we already have a striker signed or a deal in hands.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 28, 2014, 10:58:21 AM
^^, so pretty much what I said  :fingerup:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 11:05:45 AM
Now Lotito is 'advertising' Hernanes via the press:

"If a big offer arrives..."

"Hernanes isn't on the transfer market but we are willing to evaluate a big offer for the Brazilian midfielder if it comes until the end of the transfer window.", Lotito said on Rai Sport.

"At the moment there are no offers that may make us sell him. What is his price? He is a great player, a Brazilian international and a perfect professional."
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 11:19:09 AM
So Floccari is apperently packing his bags today bringing in 1.8mill to Lazio?
It seems most likely Postiga is on his way to replace him (on loan)?

Pasalic is reported to be a certainty for new acquisition and should start trying out in Inzaghi's primavera?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 28, 2014, 11:21:32 AM
so we are waiting for the new forward in the upcoming days....

best wishes to floc! a very very good professional! never bitched about being a sub and always tried his best! GOOD LUCK SERGIO!!!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 28, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
So Postiga will come as a replacement for Floccari and Rozzi most probably will come back from Real Madrid "B". Klose, Perea, Postiga, Rozzi - not a bad attack. I only hope Perea to have more space to play.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 11:27:58 AM
1.8 million euro for Floccari who's almost out of contract from a non-rival is a fantastic deal. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the way the guy's conducted himself since the day he joined us four years ago.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 11:29:42 AM
From the moment Sassuolo confirmed their interest in Floccari, he was going to become a Sassuolo player. They have the money to invest in a 32 year-old for 6 months in the hope he ensures survival and I wish Floccari all the luck in the world and I really would like to see him keep them up. Why not.

About Marchetti, I really don't believe we have been keeping him out for market reasons. There hasn't been any significant interest this winter, so that doesn't make sense. What would make sense is if Andujar is an insurance policy - there's been rumours that Marchetti has been carrying an injury all season and if correct, he is now carrying an injury and a virus. If anything happens to Berisha, we could be left with Strakosha or Guerrieri. Andujar would just cover our backsides.

I just do not understand why we would draft in Postiga when we have Perea and I wouldn't expect Postiga to be the only striker to come in. Could Quagliarella still come? Lotito said the Quagliarella move depends on Quagliarella and Juventus are all in for Osvaldo this morning. Just saying...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 11:36:46 AM
Andujar is a Napoli player, no? So there would be a stupid deal to train their goalie for 6 months (on loan)....I mean from summer he will become their number one goalie leaving us uncovered.

Postiga is one of those players that always score. Good experience, always at high level. Reasonable age, not injury prone. Will want to prove before the World Cup. In my opinion if he comes cheap it can be a golden deal. I mean for 1.5 mil we get a top player in place of Floc. But I dont really believe in all these rumors.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 11:42:24 AM
Andujar is a Napoli player, no? So there would be a stupid deal to train their goalie for 6 months (on loan)....I mean from summer he will become their number one goalie leaving us uncovered.

Postiga is one of those players that always score. Good experience, always at high level. Reasonable age, not injury prone. Will want to prove before the World Cup. In my opinion if he comes cheap it can be a golden deal. I mean for 1.5 mil we get a top player in place of Floc. But I dont really believe in all these rumors.

Andujar is not being talked up as a replacement for Marchetti, but as a 3rd choice for 6 months.

The Postiga deal is insane; 2-3 million fee and we are prepared to match his 2 million euro salary for 6 months at least. It's not even a done deal, as we are apparently going to do it in Milan on Thursday.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 11:46:01 AM
Have to agree with Caxi on Postiga. Don't see him being an encouraging signing.

For a guy who "always scores goals", you'd expect him to have more than 3 good seasons under his belt over a 10 year career. Maybe a ray of positivity is the best season of his career was last season.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 11:57:36 AM
Have to agree with Caxi on Postiga. Don't see him being an encouraging signing.

For a guy who "always scores goals", you'd expect him to have more than 3 good seasons under his belt over a 10 year career. Maybe a ray of positivity is the best season of his career was last season.

He's a decent player and a decent back-up for Klose on paper, but he's 31 and flopped in England (which makes me worry about adapting to Serie A) and we're prepared to spend more than we are getting from Sassuolo for Floccari. That just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 11:59:50 AM
Andujar is a Napoli player, no? So there would be a stupid deal to train their goalie for 6 months (on loan)....I mean from summer he will become their number one goalie leaving us uncovered.

Postiga is one of those players that always score. Good experience, always at high level. Reasonable age, not injury prone. Will want to prove before the World Cup. In my opinion if he comes cheap it can be a golden deal. I mean for 1.5 mil we get a top player in place of Floc. But I dont really believe in all these rumors.

Andujar is not being talked up as a replacement for Marchetti, but as a 3rd choice for 6 months.

The Postiga deal is insane; 2-3 million fee and we are prepared to match his 2 million euro salary for 6 months at least. It's not even a done deal, as we are apparently going to do it in Milan on Thursday.

Again, what would be the point of bringing Andujar for 6 months when you know that he will go to Napoli in summer? 3rd choice? Useless if you ask me.

About Postiga, I think it's not insane. I liked the guy 3-4 years ago, I think he is a good technical player. He is not that old, he has good experience and can help us. We will not pay that much as it is a loan with buy clause. We can test him for 6 months and then decide. I think it is way better than other options and might even prove excellent. He wants to make it to the World Cup, if he can help us we might end up with a good player. I mean Klose came at 31 too.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 12:02:10 PM
Have to agree with Caxi on Postiga. Don't see him being an encouraging signing.

For a guy who "always scores goals", you'd expect him to have more than 3 good seasons under his belt over a 10 year career. Maybe a ray of positivity is the best season of his career was last season.

He's a decent player and a decent back-up for Klose on paper, but he's 31 and flopped in England (which makes me worry about adapting to Serie A) and we're prepared to spend more than we are getting from Sassuolo for Floccari. That just doesn't make sense.

I wouldn't really judge his Premier league adventure, look at all the Italians who went there last summer  :supsmile: Postiga doesn't excite me, I would take Quagliarella any day of the week over him. Hope you are right Caxi and Lotito has him up his sleeve.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 12:08:09 PM
I dont think a Quag at 7 mil would be better than Postiga at 3.5 (the amount mentioned). But on the other hand any of them would be an improvement from Floc so I am fine.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
I dont think a Quag at 7 mil would be better than Postiga at 3.5 (the amount mentioned). But on the other hand any of them would be an improvement from Floc so I am fine.

I agree with that, but I'm sure if we signed Quags it wouldn't be for 7m. I think a 5.5m Quags is better than a 3.5m Postiga. He is a year younger and there's no risk in him adapting.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 12:15:51 PM
God forbid we sign someone under 30 for the starting 11.

Postiga isn't better than floccari. Lotito is a moron...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
I dont think a Quag at 7 mil would be better than Postiga at 3.5 (the amount mentioned). But on the other hand any of them would be an improvement from Floc so I am fine.

I'd stop short of calling Postiga better than Floccari. 4 goals in 23 games for Postiga this season? Should he start regularly for Sassuolo, Floccari will hit 4 goals by the end of the season.

I agree with that, but I'm sure if we signed Quags it wouldn't be for 7m. I think a 5.5m Quags is better than a 3.5m Postiga. He is a year younger and there's no risk in him adapting.

Quagliarella is not worth 7 million and Postiga ain't worth 3.5 million. Floccari is worth 1.8 million, but it is an incredible deal given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 12:22:15 PM
I dont think a Quag at 7 mil would be better than Postiga at 3.5 (the amount mentioned). But on the other hand any of them would be an improvement from Floc so I am fine.

I'd stop short of calling Postiga better than Floccari. 4 goals in 23 games for Postiga this season? Should he start regularly for Sassuolo, Floccari will hit 4 goals by the end of the season.

I agree with that, but I'm sure if we signed Quags it wouldn't be for 7m. I think a 5.5m Quags is better than a 3.5m Postiga. He is a year younger and there's no risk in him adapting.

Quagliarella is not worth 7 million and Postiga ain't worth 3.5 million. Floccari is worth 1.8 million, but it is an incredible deal given the circumstances.

See this is why I am puzzled by our 'transfer strategy' this winter. I would have thought if we were to sell Floccari we wouldn't just bring in someone his age (or older in some cases) for a higher price. What is the point? Why not just offer Floccari an extension?

In my opinion we should either buy someone who will bench Klose or someone who has immense promise and will be third choice behind Perea. Anything in the middle is completely pointless imo.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 12:25:32 PM

In my opinion we should either buy someone who will bench Klose or someone who has immense promise and will be third choice behind Perea. Anything in the middle is completely pointless imo.

Precisely this. The only thing I can think of is the club has locked, or expects to lock, Djordjevic away and wants someone around til June to just make up the numbers that isn't as bad as Alfaro.

Economically, it still doesn't stack up though if we have to pay the guy's wages.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 12:29:09 PM

In my opinion we should either buy someone who will bench Klose or someone who has immense promise and will be third choice behind Perea. Anything in the middle is completely pointless imo.

Precisely this. The only thing I can think of is the club has locked, or expects to lock, Djordjevic away and wants someone around til June to just make up the numbers that isn't as bad as Alfaro.

Economically, it still doesn't stack up though if we have to pay the guy's wages.

It does stack up economically, if Postiga is on loan for 6 months and 6 months only and then Djordjevic comes in. Sassuolo pay us 1.8 million to have Floccari for 4 months and we avoid paying his salary for 4 months, while we pay Postiga about 700k and then we're done with him.

It's a good deal economically if Floccari has turned around and told us there is no chance of an extension.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 12:31:53 PM

In my opinion we should either buy someone who will bench Klose or someone who has immense promise and will be third choice behind Perea. Anything in the middle is completely pointless imo.

Precisely this. The only thing I can think of is the club has locked, or expects to lock, Djordjevic away and wants someone around til June to just make up the numbers that isn't as bad as Alfaro.

Economically, it still doesn't stack up though if we have to pay the guy's wages.

It does stack up economically, if Postiga is on loan for 6 months and 6 months only and then Djordjevic comes in. Sassuolo pay us 1.8 million to have Floccari for 4 months and we avoid paying his salary for 4 months, while we pay Postiga about 700k and then we're done with him.

It's a good deal economically if Floccari has turned around and told us there is no chance of an extension.

But it may halt the growth of Perea. That's why I think anything in the middle is pointless.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
Guys guys. Let's think about it for a minute.

Why do we replace Floc? Cause he wants to play and we cannot offer him that. Cause when he played he was not good enough. Cause his contract is expiring in summer and this is the last chance to get something back from those 9 mil spent on him (1.8 mil + 0.8 or so in salary = 2.6 mil - not bad).

Is Postiga an improvement? We are talking of a NT player (27 goals and 65 games in the NT), played at last 3 major tournaments with Portugal. We are talking about a player who will be there at the WC and wants to prove that he should be a starter. 4 goals this season might not seem much, but 2 of those were against Barca and I've seen that game and I can tell you that Postiga was great. We are talking about a player who played in CL and EL. Who is not injury prone. No doubt an improvement to Floc.

In my opinion, and again - In my opinion - a good replacement for Klose and with the potential to becoma great. And remember that we will not pay 3.5 mil, we will test him for 6 months for 1 mil or so andif he succeds then we will pay. Imagine that in summer we have a proven Postiga, Djordjevic and Perea. Wouldnt you feel ok with it?

Halt the development of Perea? The current system halts the development of Perea. Bringing a new starter would mean that we will have to play with 2 strikers which means that instead of waiting for one striker to get tired Perea will get double chances. If anything, another top striker should be a good sign for Perea.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 12:37:13 PM
Imagine that in summer we have a proven Postiga, Djordjevic and Perea. Wouldnt you feel ok with it?

No. Good luck finding anyone on this forum or elsewhere who is ok with that,
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 12:43:20 PM

In my opinion we should either buy someone who will bench Klose or someone who has immense promise and will be third choice behind Perea. Anything in the middle is completely pointless imo.

Precisely this. The only thing I can think of is the club has locked, or expects to lock, Djordjevic away and wants someone around til June to just make up the numbers that isn't as bad as Alfaro.

Economically, it still doesn't stack up though if we have to pay the guy's wages.

It does stack up economically, if Postiga is on loan for 6 months and 6 months only and then Djordjevic comes in. Sassuolo pay us 1.8 million to have Floccari for 4 months and we avoid paying his salary for 4 months, while we pay Postiga about 700k and then we're done with him.

It's a good deal economically if Floccari has turned around and told us there is no chance of an extension.

700k plus a 1 million euro fee is not a huge amount less than if we kept Floccari. He'd have to prove better than Sergio for it to be really worthwhile.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 12:44:35 PM
In the last 10 or so minutes, it has emerged that Lotito and Thohir are spending time together in a hotel in Milan. Now, there's two possible reasons for this; one explanation scars me for life, the other explanation involves Hernanes...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 28, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
Own goal, drazvan.... :razz:
I'm not a big fan of Djordjevic, and not a fan of Postiga.
Djordjevic ... ok ... we will have to wait and see what he can do, but for a Klose replacement i wait for more than Postiga.

Media often claimed that Lazio was after Ibisevic. I would be really excited if that story would get hot again in the summer!
If people are ready to bring Quagliarella for 7 mill., then i would move more for Ibisevic. Should be around 8 mill.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 12:49:35 PM
In the last 10 or so minutes, it has emerged that Lotito and Thohir are spending time together in a hotel in Milan. Now, there's two possible reasons for this; one explanation scars me for life, the other explanation involves Hernanes...

I wonder what players are being discussed coming in the other direction?

At least if the former is correct Caxi, Lotito will have another president in the league who likes him.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 12:53:13 PM
Imagine that in summer we have a proven Postiga, Djordjevic and Perea. Wouldnt you feel ok with it?


No. Good luck finding anyone on this forum or elsewhere who is ok with that,


read again. I say a proven Postiga, Djordjevic and Perea.

own goal? this?
HELDER POSTIGA AMAZING GOAL VS BARCELONA 01-09-2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KidljoLfwZ8#)

I am convinced that Postiga can succed. But I am not going to try to convince you since we cannot predict future and anything can happen. Moreover, I dont really trust this kind of "big news".
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
In the last 10 or so minutes, it has emerged that Lotito and Thohir are spending time together in a hotel in Milan. Now, there's two possible reasons for this; one explanation scars me for life, the other explanation involves Hernanes...

I wonder what players are being discussed coming in the other direction?

At least if the former is correct Caxi, Lotito will have another president in the league who likes him.  :supsmile:

Maybe a loan exchange Carrizo - Hernanes?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 12:57:47 PM
One last thing...
Players from La Liga succeded well in Serie A recently (Borja Valero, Rodriguez, Rossi).
Players succeding in Serie A were rather poor in England (Borini, Giaccherini, etc).

The fact that Postiga failed in England and succeded in La Liga (look at past season) might be an indication.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 01:00:09 PM
Here's the story (http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2085) for anyone who is interested or missed the above.

I'm willing to bet that if players are involved, it will be Kovacic and 50% of Livaja. Don't know what the sudden intrigue in anyone with a Croatian passport is about, but I'm expecting the trend to continue.

The fact that Postiga failed in England and succeded in La Liga (look at past season) might be an indication.


I think any player can succeed in any league, the problem is, Postiga has a track record of not being able to adapt.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 28, 2014, 01:12:47 PM
Don't know what the sudden intrigue in anyone with a Croatian passport is about, but I'm expecting the trend to continue.



so many guys in here stated that Croatian players are no longer non EU listed, plus their ok market considering Europe..
so that must be it...
or some other analysis that link us with a scout or so... who knows....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 28, 2014, 01:13:17 PM
Hernanes - Kovacic swap? I'm OK with that, i like Kovacic a lot.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 28, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
In the last 10 or so minutes, it has emerged that Lotito and Thohir are spending time together in a hotel in Milan. Now, there's two possible reasons for this; one explanation scars me for life, the other explanation involves Hernanes...

What's the first explanation?


I've always laughed at Postiga, as with every other central striker Portugal comes up with. Now he's linked with us and for me, his name is the most exciting of them all. That's sums it up pretty good for me. Postiga should be kept as far away from us as possible. Totally useless player. I'd rather play Tounkara.

If we end up with Postiga, Djordjevic and Perea for next season I don't know what to do. Would be so far from ok as possible.
O<-------------------------[another dimension]--------------------------->K.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 28, 2014, 01:22:04 PM
Vinicius to Padova on loan, Right?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 01:28:59 PM
Vinicius to Padova on loan, Right?


It appears very close
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 01:31:18 PM
Interesting quote from Reja (who is now giving a press conference)


On Postiga:

"He is technically good and can see the goal. I don`t know if they managed it, but yesterday it appeared as he was coming. If he comes, I will be satisfied.".


Based on this, Reja is rather OK with Postiga
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 01:34:15 PM
Reja just gave everything away in the press conference (http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2086)

- Hernanes and Klose are not fit to start tomorrow and Reja said his 'only alternatives' are Keita and Perea. Floccari is definitely gone.

- Reja said we've been following Postiga for a week and he does not know if it's a done deal, but he felt it pretty much was last night. Reja wants Postiga.

- Reja said the Anelka rumour was a fake story, seemed to suggest we deliberately leaked that to hide the Postiga interest.

- Reja promises that Marchetti will not be sold before the summer.

- Reja said he wants three goalkeepers of the same level and that he does not consider Strakosha to be ready and so we are looking for a new goalkeeper in the coming days.

- Reja says we are negotiating for Pasalic, but he's not convinced Pasalic would be ready for the first team.

- Reja says we are not in the market for a centre-back but should someone leave, Cannavaro would interest him.

So to summarise:

Floccari out, Hernanes maybe, Ciani maybe
Postiga in, Pasalic maybe, Andujar maybe
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 28, 2014, 01:34:20 PM
A lot of great talents are born in Croatia and that is not from today or a month ago so it is quite normal for clubs to start buying more players from that country when they joined the EU.

I'm not a huge fan of Postiga but as drazvan pointed out he is better than Floccari. He has more international experience and has played CL and EL football (won EL with Porto). He might be 32, his current season might not be that good but I'd welcome a loan deal. Floccari is a great professional and never complained but this season hasn't been good for him and if he doesn't want to resign his contract it's better to sell him and take another player on loan. No risk at all. If Postiga flops he won't be signed. Simple as that.

Kovacic to Lazio? I'd like to see that happen. This kid has a lot of talent and isn't getting too  much playing time at Inter. Livaja on the other hand is someone I don't want to see in Rome. He is a troublemaker and in the last seasons he showed nothing good. Kovacic + money or only cash for Hernanes would be a good deal in my eyes.

Andujar as a third choice keeper? That is strange. Are Marchetti's problems that big? Ok, he is injured and has a virus... he should be ok in a couple weeks? Why sign another keeper. If Marchetti isn't ok, if Berisha gets injured or sent off Strakosha can always get his chance to show what he can do. That is the reason why teams has youth systems.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
A lot of great talents are born in Croatia and that is not from today or a month ago so it is quite normal for clubs to start buying more players from that country when they joined the EU.

Prior to Croatia joining the EU, Livaja was an EU player as he was already in Italy, Lakic was eligible for a German passport and Pasalic was born in Germany and therefore eligible for a German passport. Us chasing these players has absolutely nothing to do with Croatia's EU status.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 01:43:42 PM
Kovacic to Lazio would not be great IMO. Not because he's a bad player but because the only way we'd get him is by giving up Hernanes. The kid already earns 2.5 million euro a year and as he develops his wage demands will only increase so we'd find ourselves much like our cousins across the river did with Lamela: simply unable to keep him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: blue-white on January 28, 2014, 01:53:12 PM
I don't know Caput - if Kovacic is not that stupid he will know that he will play regular at Lazio. And in my opinion, Hernanes is also difficult to keep, especially his running out contract.

We all can't take a look into the future, but i personally would be more than happy if we would get Kovacic. Maybe a risk, but who is not?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 28, 2014, 01:56:38 PM
I don't understand the fuss about Kovacic. In my opinion he's just a younger version of Biglia and in my opinion we don't need another one that kind but more like a true attacking midfielder/trequartista.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 02:00:39 PM
Kovacic is excellent player, but a player with such carachteristics is the least of our worries (Ledesma, Biglia, Onaz) as things stand.


We need a high quality striker or a wide offensive player, Insigne, Gervinho types capable of attacking from the wing and creating spaces for Klose.


So, even if Inter offers something, I would not go for Kovacic.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 02:02:54 PM
Kovacic or no other Inter players are linked as part of the negotiation, maybe should underline that before I get too carried away.

But like I said, this whole pursuit of Croatians means something and I think it relates to Igor Tudor. Tudor is out of contract at Hajduk in June and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he comes in as Reja's assistant, Bollini goes back to Primavera, and we groom him to be our next manager. Reja has said today that he is in contact with Tudor about Pasalic - despite the fact the deal is being done through Tare and their reps. There's no need for Reja and Tudor to be in conversation, but they are.

We're basically on the verge of signing two of Hajduk Split's best prospects in the space of 6 months and we've been linked heavily in recent days to two other players who have played for Hajduk Split. This isn't coincidental.

I don't want to keep banging on about it, but there are 7,000,000,000 people in the world and 3 out of 5 or 6 of our most likely signings have a connection to a city of 175,000 people.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 02:12:22 PM
It seems that Ciani to Norwich is still on the books and according to Reja there's also still a chance of signing Cannavaro as his replacement?

This would make my mercato ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 28, 2014, 02:25:06 PM
Kovacic or no other Inter players are linked as part of the negotiation, maybe should underline that before I get too carried away.

But like I said, this whole pursuit of Croatians means something and I think it relates to Igor Tudor. Tudor is out of contract at Hajduk in June and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he comes in as Reja's assistant, Bollini goes back to Primavera, and we groom him to be our next manager. Reja has said today that he is in contact with Tudor about Pasalic - despite the fact the deal is being done through Tare and their reps. There's no need for Reja and Tudor to be in conversation, but they are.

We're basically on the verge of signing two of Hajduk Split's best prospects in the space of 6 months and we've been linked heavily in recent days to two other players who have played for Hajduk Split. This isn't coincidental.

I don't want to keep banging on about it, but there are 7,000,000,000 people in the world and 3 out of 5 or 6 of our most likely signings have a connection to a city of 175,000 people.

I don't actually mind the idea to be honest. It's a project and shows some kind of forward thinking. Tudor has plenty of Serie A experience.

My understanding is though, which doesn't discount your theory at all mind you, that Hajduk unlike Dinamo Zagreb is pretty weak financially and is fertile ground for a club like us to come along poaching players.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 28, 2014, 02:28:13 PM
Yes, Hajduk have financial problems and are willing to listen to any offers for their players while a club like Dinamo wouldn't hurry to sell their talents unless they get the money they want.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
My understanding is though, which doesn't discount your theory at all mind you, that Hajduk unlike Dinamo Zagreb is pretty weak financially and is fertile ground for a club like us to come along poaching players.

Yes, Hajduk have financial problems and are willing to listen to any offers for their players while a club like Dinamo wouldn't hurry to sell their talents unless they get the money they want.

Well yesterday, you had Srdan Lakic claiming we were talking to him and since the news has broke on Postiga, that's gone quiet. Lakic has spent the last 8 years in Germany, so we were not chasing him because of Hajduk Split's financial situation. Interestingly though, his first ever club was Hajduk Split. Reja says Anelka was a smokescreen - was Lakic a smokescreen? And if so, who made that happen?

Ivan Santini said we were talking to his agent, but he has absolutely no link to Hajduk Split. It seems to more about nationality than anything else.

There's a few reasons why I am suspicious. 1) Reja knows Hajduk Split, Tudor, Elez, Pasalic and Livaja. 2) Tare surely knows Lakic and Tudor - he has played against Tudor for years and Lakic made a name for himself at Kaiserslautern (Klose probably knows him too). 3) Tudor almost transferred to us in 2006, 2007? So Lotito probably knows him from that experience.

We all know that our policies are like joining the dots and I'm just seeing flashing red lights here. We signed Lulic, he has a terrific season, we bring in his ex-coach. We sign or try to sign a bunch of Croatians...

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
In the summer mercato we didn't sign a single player that made our starting 11 stronger. We signed talents and fringe players...yes I consider Biglia a fringe player for now.

Now we're going to keep doing the same...again?

Postiga would be a bench player..there's no reason to sign a +30 year old player on a high wage unless he walks directly into the starting 11.

Of course, all of this stuff with signing talents would be fantastic..IF THAT IDIOT LOTITO COULD GO OUT AND TELL US WHAT THE STORY IS WITH THE MERCATOS AND THE FUTURE. Go out and say that you are potentially sacrificing this serie A season to build a team for the future.

If he did that I would welcome all these talents and I'd encourage him to buy more..sometimes there needs to be a change in a club in terms of age and generation.

But as always Lotito doesn't understand how much power he could potentially have via the media..because he is a clown..and clowns act like..clowns. He choses to talk in riddles and keep boasting about stuff that is unrealistic.

How is Postiga going to help us with anything? i'd say Floc is equally as good, mainly because he knows how to score goals in the Serie A. Postiga has flop written all over him.

Lotito makes me want to puke  :wuzz:

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
Postiga a bench player? I don't think so. Even Reja said he would be a good addition. In my opinion we chose him for his technical abilities and that should be good enough.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
Yeah, I think we need to cut Lotito some slack. Reja wants Postiga. Reja wants Pasalic. Reja wants a 3rd goalkeeper. Reja feels we are adequately covered in defence. Judge Lotito on how successful he is at meeting these objectives rather than how successful he is at giving the fans what they want. The fans do not manage this team on a day-to-day basis.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 28, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
SS Lazio: La Prima Squadra Della Hajduk.


Kovacic is a genius, while Ranocchia is a sleeping giant (literally) with regards to his potential. Both players for Hernanes would be a great deal;  Kovacic will be valued at €30m+  if he has an impact at the World Cup, so it's be a shrewd move to get our hands on him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 28, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
Rannochia + Cash or bust!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Juzko on January 28, 2014, 03:29:27 PM
Sassuolo fired their coach so let's see if that will effect on Floccari's proposed move there..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
Rannochia + Cash or bust!

Almost sure that Rannochia is going to Dortmund?
He wants to himself appertently, Inter even lowered his price to 8-9mill to fit Dortmund's wishes.

But sure yes, Rannochia would also be on my list.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 03:43:12 PM
Sassuolo fired their coach so let's see if that will effect on Floccari's proposed move there..

I don't much worry about that, sacking Di Francesco was probably not an overnight decision?
Floccari would be included in their plans i presume?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 03:48:07 PM
Postiga a bench player? I don't think so. Even Reja said he would be a good addition. In my opinion we chose him for his technical abilities and that should be good enough.

Do you think he would put Klose on the bench? Postiga is not a 2nd striker and we only play with one striker. I just can't see him playing unless Klose is out injured..which isn't entirely impossible obviously.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Postiga a bench player? I don't think so. Even Reja said he would be a good addition. In my opinion we chose him for his technical abilities and that should be good enough.

Do you think he would put Klose on the bench? Postiga is not a 2nd striker and we only play with one striker. I just can't see him playing unless Klose is out injured..which isn't entirely impossible obviously.

Reja clearly said Postiga is good enough to compete with Klose and play alongside him. I agree Postiga is not a second striker, but it's not about me, it's about Reja.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
I don't understand all the negativism regarding Postiga. Really. Reja said that he wants an nt player with experience that he thinks he can play next to klose and Reja said that Postiga fits the picture. People already calling him a flop really reminds me of people screaming about why we need a 31yo Klose. I think Postiga is by far the best option mentioned so far, Quag excluded cause he does not want to come.

Kovacic and Rannocchia for Hernanes? I will kiss the Indonesian guy if it happens but I seriously doubt it.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 04:00:51 PM
Reja contradicting all the rumours about a Hernanes transfer again in an interview this afternoon.
Als about him wanting to add Postiga to the squad, and still not at all confirming Floccari's leave.

Edy Reja has insisted that Hernanes will not leave Lazio before the transfer window shuts at the end of the week.

The deadline from January transfers is Friday, and the Brazilian playmaker has been linked with a move away from Stadio Olimpico – Inter are the latest club rumoured to be keen on his services.

However, ahead of their Coppa Italia match with Napoli, the Biancocelesti Coach has claimed that his playmaker is going nowhere.

“Hernanes? I can guarantee you he isn’t moving,” Reja said, before moving on to targets he’d like to bring in and the injury crisis his squad is going through.

“[Helder] Postiga is a guy we’ve been following for a while. He’s a striker with international experience and has scored goals wherever he’s been.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Reja contradicting all the rumours about a Hernanes transfer again in an interview this afternoon.
Als about him wanting to add Postiga to the squad, and still not at all confirming Floccari's leave.

Edy Reja has insisted that Hernanes will not leave Lazio before the transfer window shuts at the end of the week.

The deadline from January transfers is Friday, and the Brazilian playmaker has been linked with a move away from Stadio Olimpico – Inter are the latest club rumoured to be keen on his services.

However, ahead of their Coppa Italia match with Napoli, the Biancocelesti Coach has claimed that his playmaker is going nowhere.

“Hernanes? I can guarantee you he isn’t moving,” Reja said, before moving on to targets he’d like to bring in and the injury crisis his squad is going through.

“[Helder] Postiga is a guy we’ve been following for a while. He’s a striker with international experience and has scored goals wherever he’s been.


Where did you find this? Reja guaranteed that Marchetti wouldn't move, but I saw nothing to suggest he said the same about Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 04:17:21 PM
Where did you find this? Reja guaranteed that Marchetti wouldn't move, but I saw nothing to suggest he said the same about Hernanes.


http://www.football-italia.net/44445/reja-hernanes-wont-leave (http://www.football-italia.net/44445/reja-hernanes-wont-leave)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
I'm not excited by Postiga either. He failed big in Greece and Panathinaikos scorin 2 goals in 13 matches...

I'm totally unhappy if Postiga comes and Floccari leaves. I can't see what different can Postiga offer...

Hernanes,Marchetti leaving? Lotito said on his own words ( Lazio NEVER sell their star players)

Another goalkeeper? Can't agree more,I'd like to see another goalie in the squad.


Look at Lotito's choices for Lazio in the last years... Cisse,Saha,now Postiga...


I'd prefer not a single transfer from those names and promote Tounkara in the first team as a striker.

Since Floccari is very good and can replace Klose and he wants to leave for first team action,I would prefer Tounkara anyday from Postiga. A youngster can develop,he can't be who he is like a 31 year old striker...

Totally unhappy...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
I'd prefer not a single transfer from those names and promote Tounkara in the first team as a striker.

Since Floccari is very good and can replace Klose and he wants to leave for first team action,I would prefer Tounkara anyday from Postiga. A youngster can develop,he can't be who he is like a 31 year old striker...

Totally unhappy...

Tounkara is injured.

Fwiw, Floccari has not been called up to the squad tomorrow so if Reja's refusal to talk about him wasn't enough of an indication, that surely is.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
I'd prefer not a single transfer from those names and promote Tounkara in the first team as a striker.

Since Floccari is very good and can replace Klose and he wants to leave for first team action,I would prefer Tounkara anyday from Postiga. A youngster can develop,he can't be who he is like a 31 year old striker...

Totally unhappy...

Tounkara is injured.

Fwiw, Floccari has not been called up to the squad tomorrow so if Reja's refusal to talk about him wasn't enough of an indication, that surely is.

I can't understand this. Even if he leaves,there is no better option than him for tommorow...

I know Tounkara is injured but I still prefer Floc over Postiga...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 04:37:24 PM
I know Tounkara is injured but I still prefer Floc over Postiga...

If Floccari wants to stay at Lazio, he can for another 6 months and nobody can stop him. He won't stay, because he wants to play regularly. His Lazio career has come to a natural end and I know you admire him, but once official, simply thank him for all he has done, wish him luck and move on. He's been a great servant to us, but it cannot go on for ever.

Maybe people think I'm overly harsh, but this is a business and a sport. To be competitive, you need to make money and spend the money you have wisely. The offer we are getting for Floccari is very generous given the circumstances and so I've no problem letting him go.

If Reja wants Postiga, I respect that - he's the manager. I might disagree and I probably do, but since we have put him in charge, let him get his way. Reja sent Floccari off when he was here 2-3 years ago, so suffice to say, he's not going to be overly hot on him when he is 2-3 years past his peak. It's time to move on.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
I agree that Lazio needs to move on and Floccari was great for Lazio,he is getting older and he can't get first team football in a team like ours. I understand that.

What I can't understand is what Postiga can offer more from Cisse and Saha. Both came for 6 months. The only one who really offered something to Lazio was Cisse. Since he left,there is no cover for an ageeing Klose.

You might say that Perea is the replacement but ask yourself if Perea can do something to Napoli all alone in the attack... It's something Klose or Floccari could do...

I am a big fan of Perea and I even personally considered him myself as the next Radamel Falcao... This is the faith I have for him. But he is still young and we can't burn him by putting him in big matches. Step by step. His time will come if he plays with the smaller teams and he will grow from this...

Postiga... I ain't a big fan but I'm not either judging him without seeing him at Lazio.

As you said Cathal, Djordevic,Postiga,Perea,Tounkara at the summer is not something that I can be excited about... Our attack line is getting worse year by year...

There will be no Pandev-Rocchi never ever again...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
I don't mind the fact Floccari is leaving, I understand if he wants to go and he has already helped us several times when people ( including myself ) thought he was done.

But we have forwards in the italian league who are experienced and who knows the italian league better than any strikers from outside.

Gilardinho
Matri ( Yes I mention him eventhough I was never a big fan of him, I'd prefer him over Postiga )
Diamanti
Sau

all of the players above would be within our financial limits and I'd trust them more than Postiga.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 05:34:58 PM
Gilardinho
Matri ( Yes I mention him eventhough I was never a big fan of him, I'd prefer him over Postiga )
Diamanti
Sau

all of the players above would be within our financial limits and I'd trust them more than Postiga.

Nobody knows our financial limits. Gilardino would be about 6 million, Matri 10 million, Diamanti 10 million, Sau 10 million.

Postiga will cost us a fraction of that, so it's not a fair comparison.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 05:37:07 PM
Gilardinho
Matri ( Yes I mention him eventhough I was never a big fan of him, I'd prefer him over Postiga )
Diamanti
Sau

all of the players above would be within our financial limits and I'd trust them more than Postiga.

Nobody knows our financial limits. Gilardino would be about 6 million, Matri 10 million, Diamanti 10 million, Sau 10 million.

Postiga will cost us a fraction of that, so it's not a fair comparison.

How much will Postiga actually cost us?

the guy has a year left on his contract still and from his stats this season, he plays quite regularly
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 05:41:30 PM
A new name that popped up now, Inter will offer us money plus Mbaye for Hernanes.

Who?

A defender on loan at Livorno, 19 years old.

Seems like the usual bullshit
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
How much will Postiga actually cost us?

the guy has a year left on his contract still and from his stats this season, he plays quite regularly

He's on nearly 2 million a year at Valencia and given their debts, they want rid of him. There was talk of a fee of 2-3 million before it became clear we only want him for 6 months. Now everything is up in the air.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 05:58:42 PM
Our management must be real high...

Ederson is injured and out for the rest of the season - no temporary replacement.

Radu always out injured - not a real backup left back.

Konko misses the half of the season - Cavanda is his replacement(the guy is a winger,not a right back)

I can't really see something positive,not even if I wear Lotito's glasses.

The only positive thing,maybe the future.

Keita,Perea,Tounkara,Elez,Crecco,Rozzi,Onazi,Strakosha,Vinicius... I believe in those kids...

I hope they will be the next big thing for Lazio.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Addi1900 on January 28, 2014, 06:07:39 PM
Kovacic and Ranocchia for Hernanes and some cash. Would be ideal in my opinion. That way Ciani can leave and we get two players who can contribute for the next 5 years. Would hate to see Ranocchia go to the Bundesliga.
Postiga would be decent, he has a good record for Portugal and would be a good option for 6 months.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 06:11:24 PM


Keita,Perea,Tounkara,Elez,Crecco,Rozzi,Onazi,Strakosha,Vinicius... I believe in those kids...

I hope they will be the next big thing for Lazio.

Add the following names too

Lombardi
Fiore
Cataldi ( he has shown a lot of promise in the Serie B )


And we really should try and sign Marin from Juventus, we need a backup LB and he wants to come back and play for us.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jimmy on January 28, 2014, 06:13:40 PM
I don`t rly get the negativity torwards a Postiga transfer. If we manage to pull it off on a 6month loan + option it will be a norisk purchase. We get a routined striker, who will be motivated to reach good form for the WC. He may not be the best forward out there, but his contribution as a sub player is quite good. Manages to get a small spark and moves the attacking sequences quite nicely. With an occasionall start here and there he will bang a few goals and also help Perea develop further.

Lets be realistic. As high as we rate him or Tounkara, none of them is really ready to carry us on his back for a prolongued period  of time. Tounkara is even considered not ready for the first team, and if we hold him on par with Keita or not is irrelevant for the people that actually make a living with football. His chances will come sooner or later and he will be ready for them, no need to rush things.

As for Hernanes .. I hope we manage to get cash for him. Kovacic or Rannochia are both decent, but if they were actually any good Inter wouldn`t want to trade them for a player who is clearly on the decline, for whatever reasons he may have. Having that in mind anything over 15mil would be awesome for Hernanes, then we can spend some in the summer and find our very own flops, instead of gambling on Inters.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 28, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
Our management must be real high...

Ederson is injured and out for the rest of the season - no temporary replacement.

Radu always out injured - not a real backup left back.

Konko misses the half of the season - Cavanda is his replacement(the guy is a winger,not a right back)

I can't really see something positive,not even if I wear Lotito's glasses.

The only positive thing,maybe the future.

Keita,Perea,Tounkara,Elez,Crecco,Rozzi,Onazi,Strakosha,Vinicius... I believe in those kids...

I hope they will be the next big thing for Lazio.
wear reja's glasses, not lotito's glasses, when as caxi mentioned pasalic, postiga are requested by reja, and that reja did not request any defensive names from his prior interview
Who's real high here? I bet when lotito satisfied all reja's requests and those names failed we'll crucify lotito only for this.
funny as hell
lotito followed reja's orders like a dog, and we're dissatisfied as when lotito's making his own decisions... please, i'm gonna cry, where in the world other than lazioland can we find such amount of !!!!!s?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Apparently the real reason we are looking for a new goalkeeper is because we are anticipating that Berisha will be suspended (http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2087) for the situation that arose with Chievo over the summer.

So we're now in for Gabriel of Milan.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 07:07:36 PM
Apparently the real reason we are looking for a new goalkeeper is because we are anticipating that Berisha will be suspended ([url]http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2087[/url]) for the situation that arose with Chievo over the summer.

So we're now in for Gabriel of Milan.


This i can relate to, sounds logical?
Why else would we look for a 6month loan-goalkeeper, nothing makes sense otherwise ...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 07:12:20 PM
Regarding the Hernanes rumors:

Di Marzio says something like this: money + Mbaye for Hernanes. Manca OK di Lotito.

Now this last part is relevant because if the Lotito did not agree to this deal, whom did Inter spoke to?? Do you get me!!

Rather bizzare journalism I would say
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Unconfirmed report that Napoli is on the verge of signing Henrique, a CB form Palmeiras?
Very decent player this, he cost's 6mill. 

So yes, why should Lazio look at him, he might actually be a good transfer who can be used in central defense right away, but no ........  (detecting the sarcasm???)

The thing is, with this guy 'possibly' arriving in Napels, could make Cannavaro more availalbe to us.
If Ciani can be offloaded to Norwich, i'm sure Reja will still want him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
Regarding the Hernanes rumors:

Di Marzio says something like this: money + Mbaye for Hernanes. Manca OK di Lotito.

Now this last part is relevant because if the Lotito did not agree to this deal, whom did Inter spoke to?? Do you get me!!

Rather bizzare journalism I would say

I'm missing something, Amir, can you elaborate? Not really sure what your point is.

Di Marzio is incredibly hit and miss anyway.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
Regarding the Hernanes rumors:

Di Marzio says something like this: money + Mbaye for Hernanes. Manca OK di Lotito.

Now this last part is relevant because if the Lotito did not agree to this deal, whom did Inter spoke to?? Do you get me!!

Rather bizzare journalism I would say

Never heard of this Mbaye-kid?
And this with Reja demanding te keep Hernanes as his playmaker (interview today), wonder how this would come over?
I'm not buying this, these kind of deals have been thrown at us for days now!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 07:18:46 PM
And this with Reja demanding te keep Hernanes as his playmaker (interview today), wonder how this would come over?

As I said earlier, I think you got that wrong. Reja guaranteed we would keep Marchetti, but he wasn't asked about Hernanes as I understand it.

Mbaye is Livorno's regular left-back, on loan from Inter.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 07:26:43 PM
LLSN report Inter offered 10m + M'Bye for Hernanes. Dream on.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 07:28:04 PM
Regarding the Hernanes rumors:

Di Marzio says something like this: money + Mbaye for Hernanes. Manca OK di Lotito.

Now this last part is relevant because if the Lotito did not agree to this deal, whom did Inter spoke to?? Do you get me!!

Rather bizzare journalism I would say

I'm missing something, Amir, can you elaborate? Not really sure what your point is.

Di Marzio is incredibly hit and miss anyway.


Ok, Di Marzio tweeted that the deal is done, but pending Lotito`s ok of the deal.

Now, how can someone declare the deal as reached without Lotito giving his consent to the same!??
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
And this with Reja demanding te keep Hernanes as his playmaker (interview today), wonder how this would come over?

As I said earlier, I think you got that wrong. Reja guaranteed we would keep Marchetti, but he wasn't asked about Hernanes as I understand it.

Mbaye is Livorno's regular left-back, on loan from Inter.

No i'm sure, it can't be more clear then this:

Edy Reja has insisted that Hernanes will not leave Lazio before the transfer window shuts at the end of the week.
Ahead of their Coppa Italia match with Napoli, the Biancocelesti Coach has claimed that his playmaker is going nowhere.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 28, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
Yes, Reja locked down Hernanes today.

This is journals fantasies.

This time, Di Marzio missed the target very wide.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional. Imagine in the future wanting to sign a new contract with Lazio,sign a pre-contract and cuddently someone signs Berisha instead of Lazio.

I am not behind this in this one.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
The latest reports are that Mbaye and Hernanes' agents are not even involved in the deal at the moment and that Lotito wants another 5 million on the table. Also reports he tried to get Guarin into the deal, but Guarin ain't interested.

how can someone declare the deal as reached without Lotito giving his consent to the same!??

Just Di Marzio jumping the gun and everyone else following suit. As per usual.

Edy Reja has insisted that Hernanes will not leave Lazio before the transfer window shuts at the end of the week.
Ahead of their Coppa Italia match with Napoli, the Biancocelesti Coach has claimed that his playmaker is going nowhere.


Have you got an Italian source? Pretty sure wherever you are getting this from is mistaken...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 28, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
I'm not excited by Postiga either. He failed big in Greece and Panathinaikos scorin 2 goals in 13 matches...

I'm totally unhappy if Postiga comes and Floccari leaves. I can't see what different can Postiga offer...

Hernanes,Marchetti leaving? Lotito said on his own words ( Lazio NEVER sell their star players)

Another goalkeeper? Can't agree more,I'd like to see another goalie in the squad.


Look at Lotito's choices for Lazio in the last years... Cisse,Saha,now Postiga...


I'd prefer not a single transfer from those names and promote Tounkara in the first team as a striker.

Since Floccari is very good and can replace Klose and he wants to leave for first team action,I would prefer Tounkara anyday from Postiga. A youngster can develop,he can't be who he is like a 31 year old striker...

Totally unhappy...

I second your sentiments, Postiga is total crap. Never succeeded anywhere he went outside of portugal.  Waste of a transfer , money, etc etc. Anyone who see's any positives from this move is un naturally high.

All we needed were simple transfers in each position that could have been finalized weeks ago.

Cannavro for the D
Matri/ Quagliarella/ Gila offense
and a decent full back that can back up our usuals that are made of glass.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
10 mill and mbaye for her hands would be retarded
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 28, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
10 mill and mbaye for her hands would be retarded

Depends on whose hands really.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 07:47:29 PM
Damn autocorrect  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 28, 2014, 08:11:21 PM
10 mln + Mbaye? This is some sort of a joke, right? Mbaye might be a young talent but he is nothing that special to make me want him at Lazio. I'd rather stick with an injury-prone Radu.

15 mln + a better player would be ok.

Someone mentioned Rannochia and Kovacic + cash for Hernanes? This is crazy - do you guys think that the Brazilian is worth 30-40 mln? Inter aren't that stupid to offer so much for Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 28, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional...


Buddy, I already posted what his agent declared in relation to this matter (few months back).
He said that Etrit was given to sign a document which he did not even understand and which cannot be regarded official by any means. Etrit does not speak Italian and his English is poor either. He speaks Albanian and Swedish and the document was in neither language.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 28, 2014, 08:24:14 PM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional...


Buddy, I already posted what his agent declared in relation to this matter (few months back).
He said that Etrit was given to sign a document which he did not even understand and which cannot be regarded official by any means. Etrit does not speak Italian and his English is poor either. He speaks Albanian and Swedish and the document was in neither language.

Why the hell did he sign it then? Not really an excuse, makes him look pretty silly if you ask me.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 28, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
So why did he sign something that he couldn't understand? That makes me think he isn't a smart person. I hope that he won't be punished because he is playing good at the moment and needs more playing time to adapt to Italian football and Lazio's style.

Quote
Fabio Quagliarella will not join Lazio as declared by the same sport director of the club, Igli Tare: "I can declared that he will not arrive at 100%".

Looks like we won't see Quags in Rome. If someone had hopes now it looks like everything is finished according to this information from transfermarketweb.com
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: EstiKornél on January 28, 2014, 08:39:40 PM
The latest reports are that Mbaye and Hernanes' agents are not even involved in the deal at the moment and that Lotito wants another 5 million on the table. Also reports he tried to get Guarin into the deal, but Guarin ain't interested.

how can someone declare the deal as reached without Lotito giving his consent to the same!??


Just Di Marzio jumping the gun and everyone else following suit. As per usual.

Edy Reja has insisted that Hernanes will not leave Lazio before the transfer window shuts at the end of the week.
Ahead of their Coppa Italia match with Napoli, the Biancocelesti Coach has claimed that his playmaker is going nowhere.



Have you got an Italian source? Pretty sure wherever you are getting this from is mistaken...

Here is the italian report, with Reja: http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/editoriale/rivivi-la-diretta-reja-col-napoli-alla-pari-hernanes-e-marchetti-non-vanno-via-40998 (http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/editoriale/rivivi-la-diretta-reja-col-napoli-alla-pari-hernanes-e-marchetti-non-vanno-via-40998)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 28, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
So why did he sign something that he couldn't understand? That makes me think he isn't a smart person. I hope that he won't be punished because he is playing good at the moment and needs more playing time to adapt to Italian football and Lazio's style.

Quote
Fabio Quagliarella will not join Lazio as declared by the same sport director of the club, Igli Tare: "I can declared that he will not arrive at 100%".

Looks like we won't see Quags in Rome. If someone had hopes now it looks like everything is finished according to this information from transfermarketweb.com

i saw this morning. was gutted.  :um_face:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 08:48:50 PM
So with the discussion about postiga and a goalie we forgot that our priority was a defender? In my opinion postiga will do fine, any goalie will be fine just in case. But how about the defense? Biava and dias will get injued eventually and from then on is cana and nova and maybe ciani if still here.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
Lets say the stuff about Hernanes is true...if there's one thing we all learned it is not not trust Lotito.

Ederson is out injured, Anderson still hasn't proven himself. What's the idea if Hernanes leaves?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Ed on January 28, 2014, 09:00:58 PM
Postiga is absolutely useless, we swap an admittedly waning Flocc for this joke? Outside of Porto, Postiga has only ever scored double figures in the league once at Zaragoza. Twelve league goals in three seasons at Sporting says it all. Completely Rejadiculous if this goes through...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 09:13:12 PM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional...


Buddy, I already posted what his agent declared in relation to this matter (few months back).
He said that Etrit was given to sign a document which he did not even understand and which cannot be regarded official by any means. Etrit does not speak Italian and his English is poor either. He speaks Albanian and Swedish and the document was in neither language.

If he signed something without even reading it,well that makes him retarded...

Too bad because it's real that he plays well at the moment but he is too stupid not to translate the contract... He's either lying not to have read it or he had a better offer from a bigger club and wanted to join.

He's either stupid or unproffesional. Choose one.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2014, 09:30:03 PM
It's getting to look like this whole Hernanes-Mbaye+money deal is total crap released by some mediacrazed journalist, as it so often happens?

It's just to stupid to be true?
Lotito laughing at a 17mill bid and then suddenly changing his mind for a 10mill bid + a youthplayer?
And this Mbaye is not even needed, another LB prospect to join Vinicius and Crecco on the bench?

Being able to bargain for Hernanes and if Inter really desperitly want him it's THE chance to get Kovacic or Rannochia, someone who is an immediate reinforcement.

Otherwise just big money, he should never go for less then 20mill!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 09:33:50 PM
Postiga is absolutely useless, we swap an admittedly waning Flocc for this joke? Outside of Porto, Postiga has only ever scored double figures in the league once at Zaragoza. Twelve league goals in three seasons at Sporting says it all. Completely Rejadiculous if this goes through...

Same thing people said about klose at that time...i say lets wait and see. There is a reason reja likes him and he is an nt player. I mean he cannot be that useless...:)

On another note, now we are interested in Agazzi...are u so sure about Berisha's suspension that we take the risk of 3 good goalies?

About Hernanes, I would take 20 mil or 12 mil plus Rannochia for him. Nothing else. But 100% sure that rannochia will not want to join us. Same as guarin.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 09:36:19 PM
It's getting to look like this whole Hernanes-Mbaye+money deal is total crap released by some mediacrazed journalist, as it so often happens?

It's just to stupid to be true?
Lotito laughing at a 17mill bid and then suddenly changing his mind for a 10mill bid + a youthplayer?
And this Mbaye is not even needed, another LB prospect to join Vinicius and Crecco on the bench?

Being able to bargain for Hernanes and if Inter really desperitly want him it's THE chance to get Kovacevic or Rannochia, someone who is an immediate reinforcement.

Otherwise just big money, he should never go for less then 20mill!

Kovacevic? He is like 45!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 28, 2014, 09:57:13 PM
Helder Postiga is a player of Lazio in the greek news and the only thing missing is the official announcement...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
Helder Postiga is a player of Lazio in the greek news and the only thing missing is the official announcement...

I am welcoming him! I know that he does not seem like much now, but I trust that he brings good experience and will help us.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: dimascio on January 28, 2014, 10:29:09 PM
Postiga is Portugal's #1 Forward.  Shit or not he must be doing something right.  I don't care what you say playing alongside world class players like Ronaldo and Nani being fed balls eventually rubs off.  That being said he's not particular world class but he's no shit bag either.  Reja rates him highly...and guess what I rate Reja highly so if Reja likes him so do I!

Valencia is only looking to offload him because they are in financial difficulty.  He's going to cost us a fraction of what Matri would have costed us and at the end of the day if it doesn't work out we'll send him back b/c it's being reported as a loan deal.  We can't loose here.

Keep an open mind.  The man played under Mourinho at Porto and I watched him over the years for Sporting.  Unless he's had a colossal colapse in the last 2 years he is definitley a step above Floccari.  Not to mention he needs to play well for the World Cup coming up.  What does Floccari have to do? Oh yea fight relegation now with Sassuolo.

Postiga younger, cheaper, played in French, Spanish, EPL,and Portuguese leagues and more effective than Floccari.  Hands down.

On another note...Looks like we might need to look for another goalie.  Apparently Berisha could be suspended indefinitely b/c he illegally signed with us after he signed with Chievo in the summer.  Not to mention Marchetti is all but gone in the summer this could get ugly fast
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 28, 2014, 10:40:26 PM
I am just waiting for Lotito to sell Hernanes, bring in Postiga and that is it.

If that is his idea with the mercato then we're going to come out weaker than we were before. A crotian talent won't change that...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 28, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
Hernanes won't go anywhere, at least until summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 28, 2014, 10:53:31 PM
I am just waiting for Lotito to sell Hernanes, bring in Postiga and that is it.

If that is his idea with the mercato then we're going to come out weaker than we were before. A crotian talent won't change that...

Might very well be that we will sell Hernanes and dont buy absolutely anybody. If we manage a golaie, Pasalic, Postica and a defender, I wont be so sad. I suspect that Mbaye's name came in just because Lotito refused a striker (Belfodil), a midfielder (Kovacic or whatever)  and asked Inter for a defender and since Rannochia is out of our reach Mbaye was the only thing they could offer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Jofo on January 28, 2014, 11:32:37 PM
Lotito and his winter mercatos. Horror show.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 12:09:17 AM
**** Inter and their Mbaye!
I don't want to see another 15 mil in Lotitos pocket!

Hernanes should stay!
Like Inters supporters refused Vucinic we should also refuse to let our leader go!

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 29, 2014, 12:17:11 AM
it cant  be, there must be something we aren't being told. im sick of being kept in the dark and fed shit. mbaye blows. losing hernanes for anything but rannochia and cash blows. I hope we hear some good news, and fast.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 12:31:11 AM
Apparently Lee, Hernanes's agent, is also representing Guangzhou Evergrande, Lippi's club. He would have come anyway for Diamanti and Biabiany...there is still hope that the deal will not get through.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 12:35:28 AM
Apparently Lee, Hernanes's agent, is also representing Guangzhou Evergrande, Lippi's club. He would have come anyway for Diamanti and Biabiany...there is still hope that the deal will not get through.

Ranocchia + €10mln or Ranocchia+Kovacic and I hope the deal goes through  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 01:21:57 AM
Apparently Lee, Hernanes's agent, is also representing Guangzhou Evergrande, Lippi's club. He would have come anyway for Diamanti and Biabiany...there is still hope that the deal will not get through.

Ranocchia + €10mln or Ranocchia+Kovacic and I hope the deal goes through  :razz:

Dude, Inter value Ranocchia and Kovacic around as much as we do Hernanes.

They aren't going to offer the equivalent of 35 million euro for him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 29, 2014, 01:24:08 AM
Inter are willing to take €8m for Ranocchia yet have convinced Lotito that they rate Mbaye at €6m???

He's a talentless athlete like Cavanda, nothing more.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 01:27:25 AM
Postiga is Portugal's #1 Forward.  Shit or not he must be doing something right.  I don't care what you say playing alongside world class players like Ronaldo and Nani being fed balls eventually rubs off.  That being said he's not particular world class but he's no shit bag either.  Reja rates him highly...and guess what I rate Reja highly so if Reja likes him so do I!

Valencia is only looking to offload him because they are in financial difficulty.  He's going to cost us a fraction of what Matri would have costed us and at the end of the day if it doesn't work out we'll send him back b/c it's being reported as a loan deal.  We can't loose here.

Keep an open mind.  The man played under Mourinho at Porto and I watched him over the years for Sporting.  Unless he's had a colossal colapse in the last 2 years he is definitley a step above Floccari.  Not to mention he needs to play well for the World Cup coming up.  What does Floccari have to do? Oh yea fight relegation now with Sassuolo.

Postiga younger, cheaper, played in French, Spanish, EPL,and Portuguese leagues and more effective than Floccari.  Hands down.

Yeah, Portugal are known for their quality centre forwards. Hence why they give a chance to any Brazilian who can play the position, the way the English cricket team plumbs on any South African with an English granny.

He will cost a fraction of what Matri would cost because he's a fraction of his quality. All said and done though, the guy's nearly 32. He's no more a long term solution than Floccari was and if the intention is only to keep him as a backup for four months, well that's not so bad but there's no way we'll see the best of a journeyman striker who we aren't giving time to adapt or even regular football. I suspect that's what Reja has in mind and why he's happy.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 01:33:51 AM
Inter are willing to take €8m for Ranocchia yet have convinced Lotito that they rate Mbaye at €6m???

He's a talentless athlete like Cavanda, nothing more.

The racial discrimination is getting absurd now. Cavanda is a much, much, much, much better athlete than Ranocchia and even if he is a poor footballer, he is by no means talentless.

Also, Mbaye is 19 and is beginning to emerge as a Serie A regular. Ranocchia at 19 was playing for Arezzo in Serie C.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: dimascio on January 29, 2014, 01:37:26 AM
Postiga is Portugal's #1 Forward.  Shit or not he must be doing something right.  I don't care what you say playing alongside world class players like Ronaldo and Nani being fed balls eventually rubs off.  That being said he's not particular world class but he's no shit bag either.  Reja rates him highly...and guess what I rate Reja highly so if Reja likes him so do I!

Valencia is only looking to offload him because they are in financial difficulty.  He's going to cost us a fraction of what Matri would have costed us and at the end of the day if it doesn't work out we'll send him back b/c it's being reported as a loan deal.  We can't loose here.

Keep an open mind.  The man played under Mourinho at Porto and I watched him over the years for Sporting.  Unless he's had a colossal colapse in the last 2 years he is definitley a step above Floccari.  Not to mention he needs to play well for the World Cup coming up.  What does Floccari have to do? Oh yea fight relegation now with Sassuolo.

Postiga younger, cheaper, played in French, Spanish, EPL,and Portuguese leagues and more effective than Floccari.  Hands down.

Yeah, Portugal are known for their quality centre forwards. Hence why they give a chance to any Brazilian who can play the position, the way the English cricket team plumbs on any South African with an English granny.

He will cost a fraction of what Matri would cost because he's a fraction of his quality. All said and done though, the guy's nearly 32. He's no more a long term solution than Floccari was and if the intention is only to keep him as a backup for four months, well that's not so bad but there's no way we'll see the best of a journeyman striker who we aren't giving time to adapt or even regular football. I suspect that's what Reja has in mind and why he's happy.

Nobody said he was going to come in and solve all the problems but he's more useful than Floccarii right now
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 29, 2014, 02:06:01 AM
Inter are willing to take €8m for Ranocchia yet have convinced Lotito that they rate Mbaye at €6m???

He's a talentless athlete like Cavanda, nothing more.

The racial discrimination is getting absurd now. Cavanda is a much, much, much, much better athlete than Ranocchia and even if he is a poor footballer, he is by no means talentless.

Also, Mbaye is 19 and is beginning to emerge as a Serie A regular. Ranocchia at 19 was playing for Arezzo in Serie C.

Mo farah is also a better athlete than Ranocchia, but you wouldn't pay him to play football. It's nothing to do with race,  it's  the fact that they're both fullbacks who can run, offering little else. Have you actually seen Mbaye play? He's poor. Beyond that, would you rather sign him or take €2m less cash and Ranocchia instead?

Had the pleasure of watching Marco Faraoni live on Saturday, he was fantastic,  a standout performer in a great team performance from Watford.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 02:24:17 AM
Mo farah is also a better athlete than Ranocchia, but you wouldn't pay him to play football. It's nothing to do with race,  it's  the fact that they're both fullbacks who can run, offering little else. Have you actually seen Mbaye play? He's poor. Beyond that, would you rather sign him or take €2m less cash and Ranocchia instead?

Had the pleasure of watching Marco Faraoni live on Saturday, he was fantastic,  a standout performer in a great team performance from Watford.

I'm confident that if Mbaye changed his image to resemble that of the stereotypical Italian, changed his name to Mattia De Sciglio or something and got his hands on an Italian passport, your opinion would be very different. I mean, you are lauding an Italian kid who couldn't cut it in Serie A over a younger Senegalese kid who is cutting it in Serie A. Speaks volumes.

He might not be worth 6 million euro, but the media are the only ones putting that tag on him. He has a bit of pace, he can tackle, and he is 19 and holding his own in the league. We could do a lot worse.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: birulangit on January 29, 2014, 02:51:53 AM

wear reja's glasses, not lotito's glasses, when as caxi mentioned pasalic, postiga are requested by reja,

Quote from: lazioland
Asked about the club's interest in Pasalic:

"I know him [Pasalic], I have good memories of him and every so often, I go to the games. Good on a technical level, less so tactically. Good player, an all-round midfielder, not very fast, but elegant. 18 years-old, might be suitable for the Primavera, not sure he is ready for the first team. If the company take him having watched him, I will be happy."

postiga yes.. reja is happy with it.. it might be his choice
but not this pasalic kid..

i dont really care about midfield nor forward..
all i want for CHINESE NEW YEAR is a GOOD PROSPEROUS DEFENDER.. like cannavaro..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 29, 2014, 02:59:28 AM
Can anybody clarify if Djordjevic going to stay at Nantes until the summer?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: birulangit on January 29, 2014, 03:07:28 AM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional...


Buddy, I already posted what his agent declared in relation to this matter (few months back).
He said that Etrit was given to sign a document which he did not even understand and which cannot be regarded official by any means. Etrit does not speak Italian and his English is poor either. He speaks Albanian and Swedish and the document was in neither language.

If he signed something without even reading it,well that makes him retarded...

Too bad because it's real that he plays well at the moment but he is too stupid not to translate the contract... He's either lying not to have read it or he had a better offer from a bigger club and wanted to join.

He's either stupid or unproffesional. Choose one.

i dont care if he is stupid or unproffesional..
bottom line is
im glad he is ours not chievo's
regardless of the 6 months ban or not..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Terzino on January 29, 2014, 04:38:11 AM
Can anybody clarify if Djordjevic going to stay at Nantes until the summer?
Unless something drastic happens, then yes, he'll be at Nantes until his contracts done in the summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 29, 2014, 04:54:06 AM

And we really should try and sign Marin from Juventus, we need a backup LB and he wants to come back and play for us.

wasn't he signed by Mancini for Man City ??!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 05:12:30 AM

And we really should try and sign Marin from Juventus, we need a backup LB and he wants to come back and play for us.

wasn't he signed by Mancini for Man City ??!

Moved to Juve in the summer after he couldn't get a UK work permit.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 29, 2014, 05:19:10 AM
LLSN report Inter offered 10m + M'Bye for Hernanes. Dream on.

i think we should somehow give them hernanes, get M'bye bye byoo !! and maybe give them some cash !! is weed legal these days in Italy? or does Mr thohir get some freak herbals instead of his morning tea!!

Lotito and his winter mercatos. Horror show.

 :wuzz: :wuzz: :wuzz:  Lotito should have the nickname of: 'deconstruct-er'



Like Inters supporters refused Vucinic we should also refuse to let our leader go!

and how can we do so?? what would be our means of rejecting this?



Had the pleasure of watching Marco Faraoni live on Saturday, he was fantastic,  a standout performer in a great team performance from Watford.

he was in our primavera right? and then !! what happened to him. went to inter i suppose ..please refresh my memory on this. thanks
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ArmLaziale on January 29, 2014, 08:25:56 AM
It's not like I am against Hernanes leaving, but Mbaye? Give me Kovachich and 8-9mln and you can have Hernanes served in the centre of Meazza personally by me. Postga/Floccari is a good deal since we sell Floccari and HIRE Postiga to carry on the season, so it's a win win situation, apart from the fact that I have huge respect for Floccari and not very excited to see him leave.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 29, 2014, 08:49:22 AM
Inter aren't stupid, their certainly not going to offer money and a player who's about as good as Hernanes already and his the potential to become world class.

Their youth products have a happy knack of developing into Serie A caliber players once they leave Inter so Mbaye isn't a terrible option, plus he fills a gap in the squad - a backup LB that's actually Serie A standard in that position.

Remember all the stuff about Ranocchia possibly going to Dortmund? Turns out (not surprisingly) it's not been reported anywhere in Germany and appears to have been totally made up by the Italian media.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 08:56:51 AM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional...


Buddy, I already posted what his agent declared in relation to this matter (few months back).
He said that Etrit was given to sign a document which he did not even understand and which cannot be regarded official by any means. Etrit does not speak Italian and his English is poor either. He speaks Albanian and Swedish and the document was in neither language.

Why the hell did he sign it then? Not really an excuse, makes him look pretty silly if you ask me.


Ok then, how does Chievo look like in this negotiation?

What is more, Chievo went behind Kalmar`s back to sign Berisha while on the other hand Tare made everything in proper channels by first asking permission from Berisha`s former club. After he got the permission and had an agreement with the goalie, Tare then negotiated the release clause with the Swedish club and everything was settled as it should.

Further, his suspension is simply a rumor for the time being because noone knows for sure of Chievo went ahead to report the case to FIFA / Italian Federation.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 09:09:56 AM
If Berisha really did this,I mean signed an agreement with Chievo and then signed for us,this is totally unproffesional...


Buddy, I already posted what his agent declared in relation to this matter (few months back).
He said that Etrit was given to sign a document which he did not even understand and which cannot be regarded official by any means. Etrit does not speak Italian and his English is poor either. He speaks Albanian and Swedish and the document was in neither language.

Why the hell did he sign it then? Not really an excuse, makes him look pretty silly if you ask me.


Ok then, how does Chievo look like in this negotiation?

What is more, Chievo went behind Kalmar`s back to sign Berisha while on the other hand Tare made everything in proper channels by first asking permission from Berisha`s former club. After he got the permission and had an agreement with the goalie, Tare then negotiated the release clause with the Swedish club and everything was settled as it should.

Further, his suspension is simply a rumor for the time being because noone knows for sure of Chievo went ahead to report the case to FIFA / Italian Federation.

Berisha had less then 6 months on his Kalmar contract so there was nothing stopping Chievo to talk directly to Berisha. We wanted him in the summer already so had to find an agreement with the club.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
I cant believe that we are going for this deal...simply speachless. after all the "with  13 mil they can buy hernanes's left shoe, etc", now we are going for 13 mil + a Primavera player? after we refused Icardi or Belfodil? really beats me.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
Apparently Lee, Hernanes's agent, is also representing Guangzhou Evergrande, Lippi's club. He would have come anyway for Diamanti and Biabiany...there is still hope that the deal will not get through.

Ranocchia + €10mln or Ranocchia+Kovacic and I hope the deal goes through  :razz:

Dude, Inter value Ranocchia and Kovacic around as much as we do Hernanes.

They aren't going to offer the equivalent of 35 million euro for him.

It was in the news that Inter would settle for 8-9mil for Ranocchia. Add 10mil cash and thats what Lotito is looking for. Kovacic was bought for 14mil, they hardly play him and if they want Hernanes and their money back for Kovacic then its not an outrageous offer. 8+14=22. Hard cash is worth more then a player so both my suggestions were pretty equal.

Dude, where u got 35mil from?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 09:18:54 AM
I cant believe that we are going for this deal...simply speachless. after all the "with  13 mil they can buy hernanes's left shoe, etc", now we are going for 13 mil + a Primavera player? after we refused Icardi or Belfodil? really beats me.

Well no one from either club has confirmed that Belfodil, Icardi or anyone else has been offered to us but Lotito should ask for a better player then Mbaye if its true we settle for him.

Just take cash ffs. Mbaye is no way near good enough for us. Not now, not ever. Use the money on Antonelli instead.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 09:23:08 AM
It was in the news that Inter would settle for 8-9mil for Ranocchia. Add 10mil cash and thats what Lotito is looking for. Kovacic was bought for 14mil, they hardly play him and if they want Hernanes and their money back for Kovacic then its not an outrageous offer. 8+14=22. Hard cash is worth more then a player so both my suggestions were pretty equal.

Ranocchia + 10mill ?
That would seem reasonable for Hernanes is suppose?
Either all cash or cash + a usefull reinforcement, that's the only logical deal possible?

But is still think Hernanes is not going anywhere, these are all 'mostly' italian media rumours.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 09:25:55 AM
thing is that WE asked for Mbaye and Inter did not want to offer him at the begining. They have sort of advantage in the negotiations since it looks now like they make us a favor by offering us a player we wanted. Kovacic, Rannoccchia, Guarin, etc...I dont think they would ever accept to come here.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 29, 2014, 09:26:41 AM
i think we can scratch off ranocchia as he is heading to galatasaray more likely
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 09:27:04 AM
It was in the news that Inter would settle for 8-9mil for Ranocchia. Add 10mil cash and thats what Lotito is looking for. Kovacic was bought for 14mil, they hardly play him and if they want Hernanes and their money back for Kovacic then its not an outrageous offer. 8+14=22. Hard cash is worth more then a player so both my suggestions were pretty equal.

Ranocchia + 10mill ?
That would seem reasonable for Hernanes is suppose?
Either all cash or cash + a usefull reinforcement, that's the only logical deal possible?

There's loads of unlogical deals as well ofcourse but I'm not really sure what you mean with all those questionmarks.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 09:30:54 AM
thing is that WE asked for Mbaye and Inter did not want to offer him at the begining. They have sort of advantage in the negotiations since it looks now like they make us a favor by offering us a player we wanted. Kovacic, Rannoccchia, Guarin, etc...I dont think they would ever accept to come here.

Can Inter just bring him back from Livorno however they want and give him to us? If Livorno has a buy out clause then it would be impossible either they want to meeting it or not cause they'd have until summer to decide.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 09:31:43 AM
15 million Euros + Mbaye is absolutely logical, in light of the fact that Hernane`s value is at around 20 millions.

Consider here his age (28) and the fact that he will run out of contract with us in 15 months time basically and we have a good deal here.

Add to that Hernane`s poor season so far and we are in business as far as I am concerned.

If Mbaye comes, Konko can be sold right away and here we can cash in some 3-4 millions at least and save money in salary.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 09:33:11 AM
There must be something good with this Mbaye...aparently Monaco offered 5 mil for him in summer and Sunderland a similar amount. I did not really notice him, though I've watched Livorno several times this year. Anybody can say more about him?

If I look at the way he plays, I think he would be more of a Radu replacement and in that case Radu could move central. Thing is that he would come in summer, so he will not help us now.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 09:39:49 AM
Apparently Postiga is coming for a medical today/tomorrow. This seems pretty serious. Again, a good deal in my opinion. We basically exchange Floc for Postiga.

Rumors are that if Hernanes is sold, we will try to get Dzemaili from Napoli. Good player, but I thought that if Hernanes leaves Mauri and Felipe Anderson will take his place.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 09:42:08 AM
There must be something good with this Mbaye...aparently Monaco offered 5 mil for him in summer and Sunderland a similar amount. I did not really notice him, though I've watched Livorno several times this year. Anybody can say more about him?

If I look at the way he plays, I think he would be more of a Radu replacement and in that case Radu could move central. Thing is that he would come in summer, so he will not help us now.


He should be good, there is an Africa Italian mercato expert who rights at TMW and he said that getting Hernanes is OK by Inter giving away Mbaye in this deal is very wrong.

Further, a quick check at transfermarket has his value climb from 1 mill Euros last summer to 2,5 now in January which is (150% raise in 5-6 months time).

So, this one appears to be a future ace, just like Keita.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 09:47:06 AM
There must be something good with this Mbaye...aparently Monaco offered 5 mil for him in summer and Sunderland a similar amount. I did not really notice him, though I've watched Livorno several times this year. Anybody can say more about him?

Inter had arguably the best Primavera team around and he was one of their best players. Stramaccioni promoted him to the first team but never used him, so he was offloaded to Livorno.

MCR says he's poor, but everyone at Livorno is poor in relation to the other teams and players in Serie A. Fact is, he's one of three Inter-owned players on loan at Livorno (Benassi and Duncan are the others), he seems to be the more consistent performer and more regular starter and he's arguably being played out-of position (plays everywhere but left-back, which is his role).

MCR said he was impressed by Benassi a couple of weeks ago, and if this guy had an Italian passport, he wouldn't be trying to convince everyone he is poor.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 09:53:03 AM

It was in the news that Inter would settle for 8-9mil for Ranocchia. Add 10mil cash and thats what Lotito is looking for. Kovacic was bought for 14mil, they hardly play him and if they want Hernanes and their money back for Kovacic then its not an outrageous offer. 8+14=22. Hard cash is worth more then a player so both my suggestions were pretty equal.

Dude, where u got 35mil from?

Yeah, fair enough, 35 was an exaggeration but that's still more than what we can realistically expect to be getting for Hernanes.

Inter may have paid 14 for Kovacic but factor in his age and how close Hernanes is to the end of his contract (plus his age and form) and I can't see those proposals being realistic. That's before factoring in that we can't really afford Kovacic's wages, which start at 2.5 million euro a season.

As always, unless a Man City or PSG comes to play, what Lotito looks for and what clubs will offer are two different things. Reja said Hernanes is staying too so if his other words were accurate, we probably won't sell him until the summer at least.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
There's loads of unlogical deals as well ofcourse but I'm not really sure what you mean with all those questionmarks.

Questionmarks, because nothing is confirmed, it's all italian media rumours.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 29, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
There must be something good with this Mbaye...aparently Monaco offered 5 mil for him in summer and Sunderland a similar amount. I did not really notice him, though I've watched Livorno several times this year. Anybody can say more about him?

Inter had arguably the best Primavera team around and he was one of their best players. Stramaccioni promoted him to the first team but never used him, so he was offloaded to Livorno.

MCR says he's poor, but everyone at Livorno is poor in relation to the other teams and players in Serie A. Fact is, he's one of three Inter-owned players on loan at Livorno (Benassi and Duncan are the others), he seems to be the more consistent performer and more regular starter and he's arguably being played out-of position (plays everywhere but left-back, which is his role).

MCR said he was impressed by Benassi a couple of weeks ago, and if this guy had an Italian passport, he wouldn't be trying to convince everyone he is poor.

Yesterday I did a quick comparison between Cavanda and Mbaye and it seemed that Mbaye was just younger and worse version of Cavanda (and left side vs right side ofc). Now I checked again and in whoscored Mbaye had the 3rd best overall score from defensive stats in Livorno. So I guess, he could be better when playing in a better team. But still, in transfermarkt and in whoscored, they said he's a left midfielder, and I just can't really trust a LM playing as a LB.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 09:59:25 AM

It was in the news that Inter would settle for 8-9mil for Ranocchia. Add 10mil cash and thats what Lotito is looking for. Kovacic was bought for 14mil, they hardly play him and if they want Hernanes and their money back for Kovacic then its not an outrageous offer. 8+14=22. Hard cash is worth more then a player so both my suggestions were pretty equal.

Dude, where u got 35mil from?

My post was just a direct answer to drazvan about him not wanting the deal to go through. If we got any of those 2 juicy bids I suggested I'd hope it did go through. And with the chaos at Inter, Thorir want to save face and give Mazzarri what he want, the two deals were not crazy. We just saw Bale move for €100 mil so anything is possible  :razz:

Lotito probably 'promised' to Reja that Hernanes would'nt be sold but we know Lotito, if a good enough offer is on the table then Ciao Profeta!
Yeah, fair enough, 35 was an exaggeration but that's still more than what we can realistically expect to be getting for Hernanes.

Inter may have paid 14 for Kovacic but factor in his age and how close Hernanes is to the end of his contract (plus his age and form) and I can't see those proposals being realistic. That's before factoring in that we can't really afford Kovacic's wages, which start at 2.5 million euro a season.

As always, unless a Man City or PSG comes to play, what Lotito looks for and what clubs will offer are two different things. Reja said Hernanes is staying too so if his other words were accurate, we probably won't sell him until the summer at least.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
There must be something good with this Mbaye...aparently Monaco offered 5 mil for him in summer and Sunderland a similar amount. I did not really notice him, though I've watched Livorno several times this year. Anybody can say more about him?

Inter had arguably the best Primavera team around and he was one of their best players. Stramaccioni promoted him to the first team but never used him, so he was offloaded to Livorno.

MCR says he's poor, but everyone at Livorno is poor in relation to the other teams and players in Serie A. Fact is, he's one of three Inter-owned players on loan at Livorno (Benassi and Duncan are the others), he seems to be the more consistent performer and more regular starter and he's arguably being played out-of position (plays everywhere but left-back, which is his role).

MCR said he was impressed by Benassi a couple of weeks ago, and if this guy had an Italian passport, he wouldn't be trying to convince everyone he is poor.

Well, I also said that Mbaye is poor and not good enough, and I'm not horny on Italians  :fingerup:

I've only seen Mbaye at Livorno and maybe it's not fair to judge him solely on that, but there's where I've seen him and he's been very poor. Looked uncomfortable on the ball and a little lost when off it. Maybe it's because he's played out of position, as wingback and not fullback, but he has alot to work on to become a regular starter on our left side.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 10:05:15 AM
There's obviously something going on when Lotito is in Milan and Inter are obviously intent on doing business since Thohir has come over especially to conclude transfers.

Unlikely, but there is a chance this deal will be concluded now for the summer. Mbaye is on loan at Livorno, so unless we are willing to leave him there for the remainder of the season and send Hernanes off for a fee that the fans probably won't take kind to, it's going to be difficult to include. The irony, of course, is that if Hernanes was sold for 10-15 million 2-3 weeks ago, there would have been few complaints.

Also unlikely, but there's a chance that Lotito is trying to screw up Inter's mercato knowing they are a direct rival for what is likely to be the last remaining Europa League spot.

We've seen this all before though. There's so many players who were not for sale, who Lotito insisted wouldn't be sold in the current window and the next day, they were wearing a different shirt and holding some scarf up to a camera.

Yesterday I did a quick comparison between Cavanda and Mbaye and it seemed that Mbaye was just younger and worse version of Cavanda (and left side vs right side ofc). Now I checked again and in whoscored Mbaye had the 3rd best overall score from defensive stats in Livorno. So I guess, he could be better when playing in a better team. But still, in transfermarkt and in whoscored, they said he's a left midfielder, and I just can't really trust a LM playing as a LB.

Livorno have played with a back three all season long and so he's down as a LM in those sites because that's where he has been playing. At the weekend, Livorno played him a RM.

Like I said, he's 19 and he's playing regularly in a variety of positions. Cavanda is 23 and at the age of 20-21, had two failed loan spells in Serie B. Mbaye is on a completely different trajectory, the question is, where is the ceiling with his talent?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
Apparently Postiga is coming for a medical today/tomorrow. This seems pretty serious. Again, a good deal in my opinion. We basically exchange Floc for Postiga.

Rumors are that if Hernanes is sold, we will try to get Dzemaili from Napoli. Good player, but I thought that if Hernanes leaves Mauri and Felipe Anderson will take his place.


Well this could be something, Benitez apparently wants to replace Dzemaili.
He would be ideal offcours for Reja's 3-4-2-1/3-5-2.
Reja wants 3 controling MF's with 2 AM's in front of them, those are the positions for Anderson and Mauri.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 10:07:05 AM
Yesterday I did a quick comparison between Cavanda and Mbaye and it seemed that Mbaye was just younger and worse version of Cavanda (and left side vs right side ofc). Now I checked again and in whoscored Mbaye had the 3rd best overall score from defensive stats in Livorno. So I guess, he could be better when playing in a better team. But still, in transfermarkt and in whoscored, they said he's a left midfielder, and I just can't really trust a LM playing as a LB.

Well, the defensive part on whoscored only covers tackles. So he's the 3rd most tackler in the team. If you see overall stats, he's just 5th of the defenders. And Livorno plays with 5 defenders  :whistle:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 10:10:22 AM
He seems decent but I think he would help us more now rather than in summer. I mean with him on left, we could move Radu in the centre (I have some doubts about that, as you know - but lets see) and we would solve our defence problems. I dont think that he will be a replacement for Konko, it would mean that Konko and Cavanda can concentrate on the right wing. Send Vinicius on loan. Would make sense.

Reports go insane now. Some say that Inter's offer is 10 mil + Mbaye, some 13.5 + Mbaye and some 15 + Mbaye. Huge differences. Anyway, the fact that Hernanes's salary at Inter is already known (if true) would mean to me that the deal is already done and we are deciding now the details...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 10:11:10 AM
If Mbaye comes, Konko can be sold right away and here we can cash in some 3-4 millions at least and save money in salary.


Sell Konko!  I know he's injured a lot, but when he is fit it's the only decent fullback who can play either right or left, i don't think Mbaye will deliver thesame quality.  Also he's a pure leftfooter, so not a very good choice for a 1st team RB.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 10:11:46 AM
Corriere dello Sport's front page assesses the likelihood of transfers in and out of Inter. They rate the chance of Hernanes going to Inter at 70%.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 29, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Yesterday I did a quick comparison between Cavanda and Mbaye and it seemed that Mbaye was just younger and worse version of Cavanda (and left side vs right side ofc). Now I checked again and in whoscored Mbaye had the 3rd best overall score from defensive stats in Livorno. So I guess, he could be better when playing in a better team. But still, in transfermarkt and in whoscored, they said he's a left midfielder, and I just can't really trust a LM playing as a LB.

Well, the defensive part on whoscored only covers tackles. So he's the 3rd most tackler in the team. If you see overall stats, he's just 5th of the defenders. And Livorno plays with 5 defenders  :whistle:

Haha, indeed. Haven't really used whoscored that much so I missed that... :)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
Corriere dello Sport's front page assesses the likelihood of transfers in and out of Inter. They rate the chance of Hernanes going to Inter at 70%.


And GdS has this great frontpage!

(http://football-italia.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/todays_papers/todayspapers/gazzetta-jan29.png)

I'll miss Hernanes goal celebrations. But hey, I've missed them all season anyway  :rolley:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 10:36:17 AM
I read that regardless of whether the deal goes through, we'd let Mbaye stay at Livorno til season's end.

What of the rumour of Dzemaili to Lazio? Do the transfer gurus of the forum read much into that one?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 29, 2014, 10:38:01 AM
So 15-16 M + Mbaye is the latest information.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 10:41:25 AM
I think the Hernanes deal is too public to fail at this point...unfortunatelly...sort of sad to see Hernanes go though he certainly gave me some white hair this season...i feel like we are losing our leader...i compare the sale of Hernanes to that of Veron, Nedved and later on Nesta...maybe I am too sentimentalist.

About Dzemaili...I doubt that he will come. his price is supposed to be 10 mil and I dont see Lotito spending all the money he gets for Hernanes for Dzemaili. Drawing the line, Hernanes for Dzemaili + Mbaye would not be such an impressive deal in my opinion...we give a top, leader style, settled player for one good but anonimous player and one promise that might or might not work and that might cause trouble when PL clubs start chase him. Our quality would not significantly improve.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
1. I read that regardless of whether the deal goes through, we'd let Mbaye stay at Livorno til season's end.

2. What of the rumour of Dzemaili to Lazio? Do the transfer gurus of the forum read much into that one?


1. That would be the best course of action.


2. Napoli would not let him go no worries about that. Otherwise, a splendid midfielder, box-to-box, capable of doing everything. Fantastic shot, good reading of the game. Simply, Napoli would not let him go, at least not in January.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
I read that regardless of whether the deal goes through, we'd let Mbaye stay at Livorno til season's end.

What of the rumour of Dzemaili to Lazio? Do the transfer gurus of the forum read much into that one?

Guys, Gurus, I'll answer this one.

Not enough time to get Dzemaili, nor do I think he would want to come here.

But maybe we can lure him into a Lazio shirt before tonights game and make him feel at home.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 10:44:11 AM
I read that regardless of whether the deal goes through, we'd let Mbaye stay at Livorno til season's end.

What of the rumour of Dzemaili to Lazio? Do the transfer gurus of the forum read much into that one?

Guys, Gurus, I'll answer this one.

Not enough time to get Dzemaili, nor do I think he would want to come here.

But maybe we can lure him into a Lazio shirt before tonights game and make him feel at home.

Hehe, maybe Petko can convince him!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
I think the Hernanes deal is too public to fail at this point...unfortunatelly...sort of sad to see Hernanes go though he certainly gave me some white hair this season...i feel like we are losing our leader...i compare the sale of Hernanes to that of Veron, Nedved and later on Nesta...maybe I am too sentimentalist.

I feel you, either what happens on this deal, for me it's a sad day to see him go!
Still hope Reja puts his foot down wanting him at least untill summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 10:51:53 AM
I read that regardless of whether the deal goes through, we'd let Mbaye stay at Livorno til season's end.

What of the rumour of Dzemaili to Lazio? Do the transfer gurus of the forum read much into that one?

Guys, Gurus, I'll answer this one.

Not enough time to get Dzemaili, nor do I think he would want to come here.

But maybe we can lure him into a Lazio shirt before tonights game and make him feel at home.

Hehe, maybe Petko can convince him!

Or Pandev recommend us!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
I think the Hernanes deal is too public to fail at this point...unfortunatelly...sort of sad to see Hernanes go though he certainly gave me some white hair this season...i feel like we are losing our leader...i compare the sale of Hernanes to that of Veron, Nedved and later on Nesta...maybe I am too sentimentalist.

I feel you, either what happens on this deal, for me it's a sad day to see him go!
Still hope Reja puts his foot down wanting him at least untill summer.


Yes, but what if Hernanes himself made it clear that he does not want to extend his contract with us or using a delay tactics?

So, don`t apriori blame everything on our management.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
I think the Hernanes deal is too public to fail at this point...unfortunatelly...sort of sad to see Hernanes go though he certainly gave me some white hair this season...i feel like we are losing our leader...i compare the sale of Hernanes to that of Veron, Nedved and later on Nesta...maybe I am too sentimentalist.

I feel you, either what happens on this deal, for me it's a sad day to see him go!
Still hope Reja puts his foot down wanting him at least untill summer.


Yes, but what if Hernanes himself made it clear that he does not want to extend his contract with us or using a delay tactics?

So, don`t apriori blame everything on our management.

True, Amir, we dont really know the details. It can be indeed that Hernanes wants a move. The salary he would get at Inter would be starting at 2.4 and reach 3.4 mil in 4 years. That is over 4 years 3 mil or so more than with us. Plus he has an age and if he wants to move, he should do it now or in summer. And if he does not want to extend, waiting till summer might be risky for us...So, indeed, there can be a business case behind it.

But for me, I am sad for 2 things:
-> one is that Hernanes meant something for us and he is our leader (I've said it before, I wont go into the sentimentalism again).
-> second is that Inter is not the best choice in my opinion for him. He desperately wants to play at the WC and I still think that leading us would have been a safer way to do it. At Inter there will be competition. Kovacic for one, Guarin if he stays. Kuzmanovic is still there. Taider, Alvarez, Botta, etc. I mean we all know that a few bad games and you go down fast in the pack there. Mazzari wanted him at Napoli too so that might be a good sign. But I think he takes a big risk.

Anyhow, that being said I also have to admit that I did not imagine that Hernanes will end his career at us and I knew that he would want to move on at some point. I hope we get the most out of it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 11:09:21 AM
Another interesting news:


Thohir was seen exit a hotel where he was having breakfast and asked about Hernanes he replied:

"Nothing has been decided yet"
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
What of the rumour of Dzemaili to Lazio? Do the transfer gurus of the forum read much into that one?

Not yet, at least. Funny, because when I saw his comments about tonight's game, I thought he's exactly the sort of player Reja would go for.

At Inter there will be competition. Kovacic for one, Guarin if he stays. Kuzmanovic is still there. Taider, Alvarez, Botta, etc. I mean we all know that a few bad games and you go down fast in the pack there. Mazzari wanted him at Napoli too so that might be a good sign. But I think he takes a big risk.

I don't. Mazzarri will play 3-4-2-1 and he will slot alongside Alvarez. Guarin is a goner, and at the moment they are playing Palacio out of position. Hernanes will come in and Palacio will replace Milito as the lone striker.

It's difficult to assess Hernanes' impact on the team. Reja had crafted us into a Top 8 side before he came here and we're at about the same place now as we were before he came along, but we were a top 5 side for a few years and you have to ask how much of a part his style of play and his stature in the dressing room has had in our development over the last few years.

I think losing him would be a blow, but it really depends on other players. If we stick with 3-4-2-1, Hernanes could be replaced in the short-term by Mauri and long-term by Felipe Anderson or Keita. Can any of those names and 15+ million make up for Hernanes?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Lazio_ade on January 29, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
Keita,Perea,Tounkara,Elez,Crecco,Rozzi,Onazi,Strakosha,Vinicius... I believe in those kids...

Have you seen Elez, Strakosha or Vinicius play?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 11:44:26 AM
I don't. Mazzarri will play 3-4-2-1 and he will slot alongside Alvarez. Guarin is a goner, and at the moment they are playing Palacio out of position. Hernanes will come in and Palacio will replace Milito as the lone striker.

So you mean Ricky Alvarez - Hernanes behind Palacio? Hmmm. So basically Hernanes vs Kovacic and Botta (assuming Guarin is gone). That might indeed be ok for Hernanes till summer. I doubt that Inter will work good like that. moreover, Mazzari likes 3-5-2 and 4-4-2, doesn't he?
I still think it is sort of a risk for Hernanes. I can easily see him leading Inter but I can also easily seem him left on the bench.

Latest rumors say that we are stuck: Inter is now offering 15 mil + Mbaye, but 2 mil for a 6 months loan and the rest + Mbaye in summer...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 11:52:20 AM
So you mean Ricky Alvarez - Hernanes behind Palacio? Hmmm. So basically Hernanes vs Kovacic and Botta (assuming Guarin is gone). That might indeed be ok for Hernanes till summer. I doubt that Inter will work good like that. moreover, Mazzari likes 3-5-2 and 4-4-2, doesn't he?

Mazzarri played 3-4-2-1 with Napoli last season and 3-4-2-1 with Inter this season as far as I am aware. Alvarez is arguably their best performer, Kovacic has been incredibly poor, so Hernanes ousts Kovacic. It is that simple.

Has they signed Vucinic, they probably would have gone for more of a 3-4-1-2 and left Hernanes alone, but now they face a situation where Guarin simply cannot stay and Vucinic is not a popular option with the already irritated fans, so they are pretty desperate to get their hands on Hernanes.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 11:52:38 AM
Apparently we've made an offer of 4 mil for Panagiotis Kone. Why the hell dont we just go for Diamanti if we want a replacement for Hernanes?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 12:02:02 PM
Apparently the real reason we are looking for a new goalkeeper is because we are anticipating that Berisha will be suspended ([url]http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2087[/url]) for the situation that arose with Chievo over the summer.

So we're now in for Gabriel of Milan.


Just as a funny note. Fotbollskanalen.se which is Sweden's biggest footballrelated site has the news about Berisha's potential supension as well, and they have Lazioland.com as source.

http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/italien/efter-infekterade-overgangen---nu-kan-han-stangas-av/ (http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/italien/efter-infekterade-overgangen---nu-kan-han-stangas-av/)

"Nu skriver Lazioland.com att...", "Now, Lazioland.com writes that..."  :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Just as a funny note. Fotbollskanalen.se which is Sweden's biggest footballrelated site has the news about Berisha's potential supension as well, and they have Lazioland.com as source.

[url]http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/italien/efter-infekterade-overgangen---nu-kan-han-stangas-av/[/url] ([url]http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/italien/efter-infekterade-overgangen---nu-kan-han-stangas-av/[/url])

"Nu skriver Lazioland.com att...", "Now, Lazioland.com writes that..."  :beer:


 :razz:

If they actually read the article, they would see that Radio Sei was the source, but we'll take the hits.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 12:11:16 PM
Apparently we've made an offer of 4 mil for Panagiotis Kone. Why the hell dont we just go for Diamanti if we want a replacement for Hernanes?

Well if this info is accurate, i am not surprised?
Have been waiting for this new for 3 mercato's now, Kone has been on the radar for a long time and spends time in the Lazio-dressingroom when Bologna and Lazio meet in the Serie a.

I think next to Diamanti, Kone is the best they have at Bologna.
Plus he's multi-positionable : CM/AM/RW
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 12:16:09 PM
Agreed, Kone would be a good addition and Reja liked him some time ago. I still wonder if a central defender would not be a better choice for some part of the money we get from Hernanes.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 12:19:48 PM
Agreed, Kone would be a good addition and Reja liked him some time ago. I still wonder if a central defender would not be a better choice for some part of the money we get from Hernanes.

Yes it would, no doubt about that whatsoever, we need a good CB that's all that matters.
But it's up to Reja, is he not asking?  Or is Cannavaro to be exptected in all silence?
Never the less, Kone would be great no matter what else happens ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 12:21:11 PM
We are very close to signing Postiga, the deal is a simple loan until June in which we would pay only his salary (1 mil per season). There is still a discussion on weather the deal includes the possibility to buy him for 2.5 mil or not. I'm wondering why wouldn't we want to include such a buyout in the loan? I mean if he succeds, 2.5 mil is a bargain. If he fails, we send him back. What if he succeds and then suddenly we need to negotiate a fee?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 12:28:01 PM
We are very close to signing Postiga, the deal is a simple loan until June in which we would pay only his salary (1 mil per season). There is still a discussion on weather the deal includes the possibility to buy him for 2.5 mil or not. I'm wondering why wouldn't we want to include such a buyout in the loan? I mean if he succeds, 2.5 mil is a bargain. If he fails, we send him back. What if he succeds and then suddenly we need to negotiate a fee?

2.5 million is not a bargain for a 32 year old striker.

On Kone, he earns peanuts and is 26 years old. He'd be a great addition; always rated the guy. It'd make it easier for us to consider the much spoken of shift of Candreva into the centre as well. I'm skeptical there's much chance of that though since Bologna would find themselves halfway to Serie B if they let him go.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 12:33:02 PM
2.5 million is not a bargain for a 32 year old striker.

On Kone, he earns peanuts and is 26 years old. He'd be a great addition; always rated the guy. It'd make it easier for us to consider the much spoken of shift of Candreva into the centre as well. I'm skeptical there's much chance of that though since Bologna would find themselves halfway to Serie B if they let him go.

If we stay with the 3-4-2-1, Kone and Candreva could/would play together and be able to switch positions within games and there's always the option of playing Kone in a midfield three or on the right wing.

Hernanes is very one-dimensional and there are signs in the last two games with the 3-4-2-1 that Reja is open to playing a more dynamic style. Selling Hernanes and bringing in Kone would be one way to go about changing the way we play.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 01:04:35 PM
For the record, Kone would be a super signing for 4-6 million Euros.

At 26 years old, he can play at least 3 good seasons. Hope we sign him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
2.5 mil for a 31yo striker with experience and NT player (Portugal, not Albania - sorry Amir) is a bargain. If Floccari with his contract almost expired is worth 1.8 mil, then Postiga is worth at least double that. In my opinion.

Nevertheless, it is still a strange deal: we take a player on a loan WITHOUT riscatto, meaning that if he does good we will have trouble signing him. Is this a sign that we are just waiting for djordjevic and that klose will renew for another year?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 01:13:48 PM
2.5 mil for a 31yo striker with experience and NT player (Portugal, not Albania - sorry Amir) is a bargain. If Floccari with his contract almost expired is worth 1.8 mil, then Postiga is worth at least double that. In my opinion. 


I agree with what you say here razvan. I really.

/Why sorry Amir//??
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 01:26:39 PM
Floccari was only worth what we got for him because he is proven in this league and the club which signed him is cashed up.

Apart from a very good season last year, Postiga is the guy who only scored 12 goals in 71 league games for Sporting, had a few mediocre years at Porto and flopped in Greece with PAO when he should've been close to the peak of his powers.

Scoring a few goals for Portugal against Luxembourg and Estonia doesn't make him a world beater either. If Floccari were Portuguese, don't you think he'd have been to a few major tournaments as well?

Postiga will be 32 come August. I'm fine for him to come as a stop gap 'cause, yes, his experience may count where Perea's inexperience leaves us short but you're posting as if he's one for the future.

If there's no option to buy him out, that's probably because the club (for once) is smart enough to realise this is a short term patch only.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: laziocaribbean on January 29, 2014, 01:38:15 PM
La gazzetta are reporting that Inter are close to a 13m deal for Hernanes!! This better not be true, Liverpool are reportedly offering twice that for konoplyanka who is unproven at a top level. Plus, Inter are one of our direct rivals!!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 29, 2014, 01:39:35 PM
I aswell think getting Postiga to patch Floccari for 6 months is a good deal. It's not like he's going to play every game, but maybe few games as a starter and then handful of games as a substitute.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 01:45:58 PM
Reports form today saying the Norwich are back for Ciani. 
They won't him on loan with a buyout clause.

I fear Reja/Lotito will say no because of the short time to get a replacement?
Unless they have Cannavaro ready ...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 01:48:34 PM
2.5 mil for a 31yo striker with experience and NT player (Portugal, not Albania - sorry Amir) is a bargain. If Floccari with his contract almost expired is worth 1.8 mil, then Postiga is worth at least double that. In my opinion. 


I agree with what you say here razvan. I really.

/Why sorry Amir//??

I know that you tend to protect the albanians and my remark  that a portuguese NT is more valuable than an albanian NT might have been considered sarcasm - none intended.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 01:52:24 PM
Floccari was only worth what we got for him because he is proven in this league and the club which signed him is cashed up.

Apart from a very good season last year, Postiga is the guy who only scored 12 goals in 71 league games for Sporting, had a few mediocre years at Porto and flopped in Greece with PAO when he should've been close to the peak of his powers.

Scoring a few goals for Portugal against Luxembourg and Estonia doesn't make him a world beater either. If Floccari were Portuguese, don't you think he'd have been to a few major tournaments as well?

Postiga will be 32 come August. I'm fine for him to come as a stop gap 'cause, yes, his experience may count where Perea's inexperience leaves us short but you're posting as if he's one for the future.

If there's no option to buy him out, that's probably because the club (for once) is smart enough to realise this is a short term patch only.

Yeah but why no option? I mean we save 2-300k? What I understand is that if we put an option, we need to pay 2-300k to get him. Without the option it is just a loan and a shared risk: they risk of getting him back in poor shape, we risk to lose him in top shape. No costs. So it's really like saying: we take him but he is not good enough to stay. I think that either Klose is staying or that Reja trusts that Perea will do good. In that sense, Postiga might be the 3rd in the pack and this is why we know that he is only a backup.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
Ok so apparently Mbaye refused us because he wants to join Monaco :) This is getting hilarious. I think it's time to bring up the Dumb&Dumber photo again! It is that moment of the mercato!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
Ok so apparently Mbaye refused us because he wants to join Monaco :) This is getting hilarious. I think it's time to bring up the Dumb&Dumber photo again! It is that moment of the mercato!

Well problem solved then, could not be better.
Guarin, Kovacic and Ranocchia will probably not be interested to switch with Hernanes, so al the more reason the aks for the whole amount in cash, 17-20mill. 
To invest in players for a position we need?
And when Inter don't have that money for Hernanes, then he stays at Lazio - simple ......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 02:09:34 PM
nothing is simple with lotare!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 29, 2014, 02:15:26 PM
It's a good time to remember there's a good chance we could be targeting someone the reporters haven't mentioned at all yet. They don't always get it right.

Likewise, we might have a surprise sale on our hands.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 02:18:18 PM
nothing is simple with lotare!

Yep, that's definitly true.
Rumour is starting up from english press that Inter started negotiations today with Man Utd regarding Nani.
Not confirmed offcourse, maybe they are backing of Hernanes?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: laziocaribbean on January 29, 2014, 02:21:47 PM
Why the f*** are we selling Hernanes to Inter!? One of our best players to a direct rival!! Inter are not what they used to be, if it was Juve I would understand but why strengthen a team who we finished close to in recent years?

Does anyone know when is Hernanes' contract up?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 29, 2014, 02:29:08 PM
Next summer, as in 2015. So we either have to extend or cash in now.

The real question is..why does Hernanes want to go there. He will be in a club that is an even bigger circus than ours. Does he think being there gives him a better chance playing for the selecao during the World cup?

My main concern with letting Hernanes go is the fact we're selling our biggest star and it will have a huge impact on our confidence and there will be a drop in morale in the club..no doubt about that.

Lotito won't use the money in this mercato I suspect. I think Postiga will be our only signing in this mercato, regardless of whether Hernanes leaves or not.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
Floccari was only worth what we got for him because he is proven in this league and the club which signed him is cashed up.

Apart from a very good season last year, Postiga is the guy who only scored 12 goals in 71 league games for Sporting, had a few mediocre years at Porto and flopped in Greece with PAO when he should've been close to the peak of his powers.

Scoring a few goals for Portugal against Luxembourg and Estonia doesn't make him a world beater either. If Floccari were Portuguese, don't you think he'd have been to a few major tournaments as well?

Postiga will be 32 come August. I'm fine for him to come as a stop gap 'cause, yes, his experience may count where Perea's inexperience leaves us short but you're posting as if he's one for the future.

If there's no option to buy him out, that's probably because the club (for once) is smart enough to realise this is a short term patch only.

One of the more sensible posts, perfectly said. Also worth noting that Floccari has scored more goals this season in less games. We can all agree that we got a good price for Floccari and that we need to replace him.

It's a good time to remember there's a good chance we could be targeting someone the reporters haven't mentioned at all yet. They don't always get it right.

Likewise, we might have a surprise sale on our hands.

Worth pointing out indeed, because I am very suprised there have not be more offers for our players. Cavanda has a market in England and Edy Reja has had his issues there and I think it's safe to say Juventus are keen on Lulic and now is the perfect time to test our resolve. When you add the sudden interest in Mbaye into the mix, I think a surprise sale is by no means out of the question.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
Man just stop it with how good Floccari is. He is a decent player for a low table team and he knows it. We all like the way he works hard, etc. But that does not excuse the fact that he was oveall a big flop: brought here to replace Rocchi, to score 15 goals+ per season never did that. Remember that we've paid 9 mil euro for him. You keep telling that Floccari is better than this or that or whatever. Maybe. but at this point he is NOT good enough for Lazio and that's it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 29, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
Man just stop it with how good Floccari is. He is a decent player for a low table team and he knows it. We all like the way he works hard, etc. But that does not excuse the fact that he was oveall a big flop: brought here to replace Rocchi, to score 15 goals+ per season never did that. Remember that we've paid 9 mil euro for him. You keep telling that Floccari is better than this or that or whatever. Maybe. but at this point he is NOT good enough for Lazio and that's it.

Neither is Postiga though.

Mark my words, Postiga will be a huge flop.

Take a striker who has flopped in every other league he played in...bring him to the league in the world that is the arguably hardest to score in..and you have a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 02:50:42 PM
Man just stop it with how good Floccari is. He is a decent player for a low table team and he knows it. We all like the way he works hard, etc. But that does not excuse the fact that he was oveall a big flop: brought here to replace Rocchi, to score 15 goals+ per season never did that. Remember that we've paid 9 mil euro for him. You keep telling that Floccari is better than this or that or whatever. Maybe. but at this point he is NOT good enough for Lazio and that's it.

Neither is Postiga though.

Mark my words, Postiga will be a huge flop.

Take a striker who has flopped in every other league he played in...bring him to the league in the world that is the arguably hardest to score in..and you have a recipe for disaster.

We do not know this and Postiga will in any case be a less flop than Floc because we will not pay 9 mil euro for him. Thats all. One thing is your feeling that a player that comes for free will be a flop and one thing is a proven flop. I'm not talking here about how good Postiga is or not - i have my opinion, you have yours. Time will tell us. I talk just about unjustified praise of a mediocre player like Floccari. I'm tired of hearing about how good is he and how hard he works. The world is full of hard working players. I want to have a lazy one scoring 15+ per season.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 02:52:52 PM
Man just stop it with how good Floccari is. He is a decent player for a low table team and he knows it. We all like the way he works hard, etc. But that does not excuse the fact that he was oveall a big flop: brought here to replace Rocchi, to score 15 goals+ per season never did that. Remember that we've paid 9 mil euro for him. You keep telling that Floccari is better than this or that or whatever. Maybe. but at this point he is NOT good enough for Lazio and that's it.

As I hit post, I was warned of a new post only to find someone has said exactly what I had typed.

Neither is Postiga though.

He's a decent player for a low table team and he knows it. Valencia are in a relegation battle and they cannot wait to get rid of Postiga for free despite spending over 3 million euro on him 5 months ago. Does that not tell you something?

I've watched Valencia quite a bit this season as they are my favourite team in Spain and I know exactly how good Postiga is and if I had my own Serie A club and were told to pick between the two, I'd opt for Floccari. Tough call, but I go with the guy who is among the top goalscorers in Europa League and who has a history of hitting 8-12 Serie A goals a season.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
I think this was already answered, no? Valencia is in financial trouble and they get rid of highly paid players like Pabon, Rami or Postiga.

Again, I am not saying that Postiga will score 20 goals. But, unlike Floccari who was bought to replace Rocchi and failed, he is not brought in to score 20 goals. He is brought in to (and this is what Reja said) bring some top level experience next to Klose. I think he can do that.

Why I like him more than Floccari? Because with him there is a bit of hope that he can surprise us do a great job.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 03:12:55 PM
Lotito: "Io non ho venduto Hernanes e non ho nessuna intenzione di venderlo. Ce lo teniamo stretto, lo deve dire lui se ha voglia di lasciare la Lazio. Noi non l'abbiamo messo in vendita"

(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/dumb-and-dumber-sequel-jim-carrey.jpeg)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 03:18:06 PM
I think this was already answered, no? Valencia is in financial trouble and they get rid of highly paid players like Rami or Postiga.

Valencia were in financial trouble 5 months ago when they spent over 3 million euro on him and offered him a salary of 2 million euro per year. Given he had a great season at Real Zaragoza, they felt he could adequately replace Soldado. 5 months on, they want to take a 3 million euro loss to save money? Nonsense. They brought Eduardo Vargas in on loan because they feel he is going to score the goals that will keep them up and that Postiga has not been able to score and he will do so for the price it would take to keep Postiga at the club until June.

Again, I am not saying that Postiga will score 20 goals. But, unlike Floccari who was bought to replace Rocchi and failed, he is not brought in to score 20 goals. He is brought in to (and this is what Reja said) bring some top level experience next to Klose. I think he can do that.

Why I like him more than Floccari? Because with him there is a bit of hope that he can surprise us do a great job.

Postiga started 38 games last season, came off the bench once and hit 14 goals. Floccari started 19 games last season, came off the bench 16 times and scored 10 goals.

That's pretty comparable. Floccari started half the games Postiga did but scored more than half Postiga's tally, but then he did come off the bench quite regularly.

Still, I go for the guy who is proven goalscorer in Serie A and the Europa League. Postiga is the better option should the region of Lazio break free from Italy and form an international team and find themselves in a qualification group with Andorra and Luxembourg. Maybe then we make Postiga a citizen
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 03:24:05 PM
Please stop comparing Floccari with Postiga.

Floccari was a flop for us and we already agreed to sell him. Agreed?

Now, we want a new striker. Reja said that he is looking for a specific role: he wants not a striker that will bag 100 goals, he needs an experienced, top, NT striker that can work together with Klose and that Postiga fits this with 0 costs. That is the real deal.

It is not replacing Floc cause we found a better Floc. It's getting rid of a player that did not bring enough satisfaction and costed quite some money and bring another striker that could help us on a specific role. That's my point and this is why I am so annoyed by people saying that Floccari is better than Postiga. Is like saying that an apple is better than an orange.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 03:43:42 PM
Please stop comparing Floccari with Postiga.

Why? Because I am proving a point?

Floccari was a flop for us and we already agreed to sell him. Agreed?

No. We spent 9 million on Floccari and through his loan to Parma and sale to Sassuolo, we will have recuperated about 3 million (possibly more), so Floccari has cost us, at most, 6 million plus salary. He has scored 45 goals for us and yet people are willing to pay 6 million plus a higher salary for Quagliarella who could never score 45 goals for Lazio because he simply doesn't have the time on his side. Add to that the fact Floccari's goals put us in Europe when Zarate went AWOL and saying Floccari is a flop is an incredibly short-sighted comment.

Now, we want a new striker. Reja said that he is looking for a specific role: he wants not a striker that will bag 100 goals, he needs an experienced, top, NT striker that can work together with Klose and that Postiga fits this with 0 costs. That is the real deal.

If Reja wants Postiga, that's fine, but Gavin Glinton is an experienced international striker that could in theory work with Klose and cost absolutely nothing. Is he the real deal?

The criteria is not important, what is important is the quality of the individual.

It is not replacing Floc cause we found a better Floc. It's getting rid of a player that did not bring enough satisfaction and costed quite some money and bring another striker that could help us on a specific role. That's my point and this is why I am so annoyed by people saying that Floccari is better than Postiga. Is like saying that an apple is better than an orange.

No it's not, it's like saying a new entrant into F1 from a different formula who have the same budget as Caterham are going to outperform Caterham in F1 despite having similar resources and materials. The main consideration is the fact that Caterham are on the grid - they have experience of going to all the venues, producing lap times and obtaining results. That's what Floccari has - he has experience in Serie A and playing in towns and cities Postiga hasn't heard off, and he has scored the goals there and picked up points for us.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 29, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Please stop comparing Floccari with Postiga.

Floccari was a flop for us and we already agreed to sell him. Agreed?

Now, we want a new striker. Reja said that he is looking for a specific role: he wants not a striker that will bag 100 goals, he needs an experienced, top, NT striker that can work together with Klose and that Postiga fits this with 0 costs. That is the real deal.

It is not replacing Floc cause we found a better Floc. It's getting rid of a player that did not bring enough satisfaction and costed quite some money and bring another striker that could help us on a specific role. That's my point and this is why I am so annoyed by people saying that Floccari is better than Postiga. Is like saying that an apple is better than an orange.

No no he is, you're deluded (as per usual) with your analysis and comparison.

Postigas record is terrible and during his whole career he's hit double digits twice and once in a big league like spain. We all know how world class the defending is in the spanish league  :whistle:

FLoccari on the other hand has succeeded in Serie A and has remained consistent throughout.

Your futile remarks are making me angry and some how trying to convince everyone that Postiga is good enough for our team.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:05:27 PM
It's all about expectations and results. I can appreciate a hard-working player, but if he was brought to put goals in, not to do hard work and be decent I call him a flop. I've also called Cisse a flop and he was also decent and hard working. That being said, I cant ever agree that Floccari was a success. He was ok, helped us, but he did not do what he was brought in to do. That's all.

Cathal, let's not go further. We have differnt opinions on it, I can accept. You prefer the safety of Floccari, I prefer the risk but possible reward of Postiga. In the end, we have to live with the choices somebody else makes (Lotito, Tare, Reja) and see the results after some time.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 04:06:24 PM
I usually don`t agree too with razvan but this time the point he is trying to make is this:


We all know what Floccari can do! That is, little playing time this season and no goals scored in Serie A. He even lost his place and minutes to a young Perea.

On the other hand, Postiga might give us an element of surprise against the opposition as he has not played in Serie A and his acquisition can work.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:08:43 PM
Please stop comparing Floccari with Postiga.

Floccari was a flop for us and we already agreed to sell him. Agreed?

Now, we want a new striker. Reja said that he is looking for a specific role: he wants not a striker that will bag 100 goals, he needs an experienced, top, NT striker that can work together with Klose and that Postiga fits this with 0 costs. That is the real deal.

It is not replacing Floc cause we found a better Floc. It's getting rid of a player that did not bring enough satisfaction and costed quite some money and bring another striker that could help us on a specific role. That's my point and this is why I am so annoyed by people saying that Floccari is better than Postiga. Is like saying that an apple is better than an orange.

No no he is, you're deluded (as per usual) with your analysis and comparison.

Postigas record is terrible and during his whole career he's hit double digits twice and once in a big league like spain. We all know how world class the defending is in the spanish league  :whistle:

FLoccari on the other hand has succeeded in Serie A and has remained consistent throughout.

Your futile remarks are making me angry and some how trying to convince everyone that Postiga is good enough for our team.

I am not trying to convince anybody. I just say that while you can be sure that Floc will not score more than 4 goals in Serie A till summer (which even Perea or Keita will probably manage if they get time), there is a small chance out there that Postiga will. That's all I am saying. YOU are trying to convince me that he will not, which is impossible cause you can't really predict the future. 
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
I usually don`t agree too with razvan but this time the point he is trying to make is this:


We all know what Floccari can do! That is, little playing time this season and no goals scored in Serie A. He even lost his place and minutes to a young Perea.

On the other hand, Postiga might give us an element of surprise against the opposition as he has not played in Serie A and his acquisition can work.

Exactly, Amir. That combined with the fact that Floccari will certainly leave makes the discussion "is it better to keep Floc or get Postiga?" a bit useless. I think we can make much poorer choices than Postiga (Lakic is waiting for a call according to his agent....)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 29, 2014, 04:11:36 PM
Please stop comparing Floccari with Postiga.

Floccari was a flop for us and we already agreed to sell him. Agreed?

Now, we want a new striker. Reja said that he is looking for a specific role: he wants not a striker that will bag 100 goals, he needs an experienced, top, NT striker that can work together with Klose and that Postiga fits this with 0 costs. That is the real deal.

It is not replacing Floc cause we found a better Floc. It's getting rid of a player that did not bring enough satisfaction and costed quite some money and bring another striker that could help us on a specific role. That's my point and this is why I am so annoyed by people saying that Floccari is better than Postiga. Is like saying that an apple is better than an orange.

No no he is, you're deluded (as per usual) with your analysis and comparison.

Postigas record is terrible and during his whole career he's hit double digits twice and once in a big league like spain. We all know how world class the defending is in the spanish league  :whistle:

FLoccari on the other hand has succeeded in Serie A and has remained consistent throughout.

Your futile remarks are making me angry and some how trying to convince everyone that Postiga is good enough for our team.

I am not trying to convince anybody. I just say that while you can be sure that Floc will not score more than 4 goals in Serie A till summer (which even Perea or Keita will probably manage if they get time), there is a small chance out there that Postiga will. That's all I am saying. YOU are trying to convince me that he will not, which is impossible cause you can't really predict the future.

Yes we can. Postiga is arse , he never was good and it won't change for him at 32 years old.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
Ok, please tell me then a better signing that fits what Reja said "experienced at top level, proven NT player". With 0 costs. And please dont start that we should buy Quag or somebody else because we will get money from Hernanes: Lotito said 2 days ago that he will not spend 1 cent this mercato.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 04:17:52 PM
Floc will not score more than 4 goals in Serie A till summer [...] you can't really predict the future.

You said it.

I've seen Postiga play for 12 odd years and I was a fan of his back in the day, but not now, and I'm pretty certain he will not replace Floccari adequately, but as you say, different opinions and there's no need to go around in circles.

It would though have been interesting though if someone could have made a more reasoned argument than the fact he's different and that he scored a bicycle kick once when his team were losing 3-0 to Barcelona. Especially if it goes with the claim that Floccari is not as good as him...

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Well it's a chaos regarding this 'Hernanes to Inter' deal.
Today it was 'confirmed' Lazio made a 4mill bid on Kone, to replace Hernanes?

Then Lotito stated the following later today in a radio interview:

Despite reports that a deal has been agreed, Lazio President Claudio Lotito has rubbished suggestions that Hernanes will leave for Inter.
Sport Mediaset claimed earlier on Wednesday that the two clubs had come to an accord regarding the transfer of the Brazilian playmaker.
It was believed that the deal would see the Nerazzurri pay €10m for the trequartista, with Senegalese youngster Ibrahima Mbaye going the other way.
However, the capital side’s chief has said that is not the case.
“I have never put Hernanes up for sale,” Lotito told Radio Radio. “And I have no intention of doing so.
“We want to keep hold of him. But if he wants to leave, then he has to tell us so


I know Lotito is always 'completely silent' regarding to transferdeals, but this thing with Hernanes is getting a bit ridiculous.  Could this all be media-fantasy, and even this Kone bid?

I think it's going to be exactly like Reja said this week 'Hernanes is going nowhere'!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 29, 2014, 04:24:13 PM
Keita,Perea,Tounkara,Elez,Crecco,Rozzi,Onazi,Strakosha,Vinicius... I believe in those kids...

Have you seen Elez, Strakosha or Vinicius play?

I haven't but I'd love to get their chances since we won't bring anyone at the transfer market.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 29, 2014, 04:28:24 PM
Ok, please tell me then a better signing that fits what Reja said "experienced at top level, proven NT player". With 0 costs. And please dont start that we should buy Quag or somebody else because we will get money from Hernanes: Lotito said 2 days ago that he will not spend 1 cent this mercato.

Don't believe that to be the truth. Chances are we will spend and buy someone and Yes Quagliarella a player who you've many times said we dont need will be a massive upgrade to everything we have now
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 29, 2014, 04:29:18 PM
Postiga is pretty much the same as Flocc. There will be no some great positives from him this season, but nor Flocc will be positive. So, when you put both players side by side, and think about FINANCIAL aspect of this (Lazio will be in plus), that is all about.

Postiga or Floccari? Similar type, similar stats, all the same, just the name different. And think about financial plus of this. Money is important in this deal, not the quality of players. You are talking like the Postiga will plays some important role. No, will be the "Floccari numero duo". But cheaper. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
I haven't but I'd love to get their chances since we won't bring anyone at the transfer market.


...a lot of pessimism, but very little reality.


Well, this ain`t an unknown thing here!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 29, 2014, 04:33:23 PM
Opppp, instead of quoting Caxi I modified his post. Sorry mate.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:34:30 PM
Floc will not score more than 4 goals in Serie A till summer [...] you can't really predict the future.

You said it.

I've seen Postiga play for 12 odd years and I was a fan of his back in the day, but not now, and I'm pretty certain he will not replace Floccari adequately, but as you say, different opinions and there's no need to go around in circles.

It would though have been interesting though if someone could have made a more reasoned argument than the fact he's different and that he scored a bicycle kick once when his team were losing 3-0 to Barcelona. Especially if it goes with the claim that Floccari is not as good as him...

Floccari is leaving, get used to it. this is not a discussion if we keep Floccari or not. That has been already decided. This is a discussion about Postiga being good enough or not. I say that Postiga is a good experienced player that can pull some surprises. He is not that old (31 - ok 31 and a half). If I have to choose between Postiga, Anelka and Lakic I would choose Postiga anyday. It's as simple as that. Between all the assumptions made here, one thing is certain: Reja agrees with me and he is in charge. In my opinion that tells a lot.

We have to be realistic. This is not between signing Postiga or Cavani. This is between Postiga and Lakic & co and I think Postiga is in this view not bad at all.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 29, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
The last thing I'd accept is questioning Floccari's ability. Last year as usual,Klose was injured and the one who came in for Klose and scored 10 goals was Floccari.

Saying Floccari is worst than Postiga is a no brainer really. Floccari as far as I can remember costed us 8 million and we got 1.5 back from his loan at Parma plus the money we'll get from Sassuolo.

I won't judge Postiga since I see him in the field but even if Floccari is that bad as many people mention,Postiga wouldn't offer more than him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: dimascio on January 29, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
I have a lot of positive things to say about Postiga in terms of work rate and experience as I watched him for 2 years at Sporting. Unless it's a colossal collapse I think I know what we are getting from him. I was saving most of my knowledge on him for the North Curve on Saturday but I will say this:

I don't think this is about Floccari vs Postiga. This is about a transfer strategy as usual going south fast and us as a club picking from a short list of players that don't really include any sexy names. I get that. I'm just as upset as all of you that we must settle for Postiga.

I always thought that if the goal was a proven striker in Serie A like Reja requested we should have went for that head on. Once they realized Quagliarella was never coming they lowered their filter to just strikers with international experience. Thus we arrive at stop gaps like Anelka and then Postiga.

That being said, the money we are spending on Postiga coupled with everyone here's expectations of him, we can't loose.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 04:45:35 PM
Well, the whole transfer-epic involving Hernanes is published in chronological detail on lazio24news.
The last updat just a couple of minutes ago i stating that 'any possible' deal is completely off.
Lotito saying Hernanes is staying at Lazio and that he's the star player, that he did not ask to leave yet.
So Reja's words from a few days ago is now the endresult of this chaos of rumours, he's going nowhere!

Also published that the Pasalic-deal will be finalizing tomorrow for 2.4mill.
And Postiga is expected in Rome tomorrow for his medical.

So probably tomorrownight we will 'officialy' see the 2 new acquisition up till now in this mercato:
- Helder Postiga
- Mario Pasalic (probably to start of with the primavera?)

So 2 days left for Norwich to get Ciani and for Lotare to get his replacement?
It seems the Kone-bid could be pure media-fantasy, this would displease me very much ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:47:56 PM
I try to say it again and again: I am not saying that Postiga is better than Floccari or the other way around. What I've said was that Floccari was never the striker we expected him to be. He was hardworking, he helped us, I like him, sure. But he was never the striker meant to bring us forward. And I am not saying that Postiga is. But I am saying that knowing that Floccari leaves, Postiga is not a bad choice given what we want to spend. I think he is a good compromise that could deliver some surprises.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 29, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
Apparently we have offered a 5 years renewal with 2.2 mil per year to Hernanes. The ball is in his court now: does he want to stay and lead us or move on.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nando87 on January 29, 2014, 05:02:50 PM
Apparently we have offered a 5 years renewal with 2.2 mil per year to Hernanes. The ball is in his court now: does he want to stay and lead us or move on.

Didn't he want 2.5???? thats a good offer, he should take it.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 29, 2014, 05:05:05 PM
Apparently we have offered a 5 years renewal with 2.2 mil per year to Hernanes. The ball is in his court now: does he want to stay and lead us or move on.

Well, i would really like to see Kone with us, but i'd much rather want to see Hernanes in a lazio-shirt for the rest of his career!
I'm guessing then this Kone-thing is only a press-rumour and Lotare won't go for another MF with this Pasalic-kid also being confirmed?
(I dream of selling Cavanda-Pereirinha-Ciani and getting Kone and Cannavaro instead)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: The Undertaker on January 29, 2014, 05:06:58 PM
Apparently we have offered a 5 years renewal with 2.2 mil per year to Hernanes. The ball is in his court now: does he want to stay and lead us or move on.

Yep,he deserves that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Lazio_ade on January 29, 2014, 05:07:35 PM
Keita,Perea,Tounkara,Elez,Crecco,Rozzi,Onazi,Strakosha,Vinicius... I believe in those kids...


Have you seen Elez, Strakosha or Vinicius play?


I haven't but I'd love to get their chances since we won't bring anyone at the transfer market.


Fair play for being honest, but it's a huge leap of faith to say that you believe in players you have never seen play. For all we know, Vinicius could be this guy: http://www.4dfoot.com/2013/06/18/carlos-henrique-kaiser-footballs-greatest-liar/ (http://www.4dfoot.com/2013/06/18/carlos-henrique-kaiser-footballs-greatest-liar/)

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
Reading between the lines, I don't think the Postiga deal is anywhere close yet. Floccari hasn't officially left despite not being called up for tonight's game and original reports said Postiga's representatives would arrive in Milan on Thursday. I think much of what we've read in the last two days is fabricated to fill the inevitable silence.

Secondly, reports now that Juventus are trying to offload Quagliarella to bring in Osvaldo, something which I mentioned would happen 2 or 3 days ago. That may throw a spanner into our works.

Finally, Lotito says the Hernanes deal doesn't exist, Thohir suggests it does, papers say it's a done deal, then they say it's off. Something about the whole story doesn't add up.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 05:22:27 PM
Apparently we have offered a 5 years renewal with 2.2 mil per year to Hernanes. The ball is in his court now: does he want to stay and lead us or move on.

Yep,he deserves that.

Especially after his stellar season so far!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
Reading between the lines, I don't think the Postiga deal is anywhere close yet. Floccari hasn't officially left despite not being called up for tonight's game and original reports said Postiga's representatives would arrive in Milan on Thursday. I think much of what we've read in the last two days is fabricated to fill the inevitable silence.

Secondly, reports now that Juventus are trying to offload Quagliarella to bring in Osvaldo, something which I mentioned would happen 2 or 3 days ago. That may throw a spanner into our works.

Finally, Lotito says the Hernanes deal doesn't exist, Thohir suggests it does, papers say it's a done deal, then they say it's off. Something about the whole story doesn't add up.

Maybe Lotito doesn't want to spill the beans before the napoli game making the team loose morale and Reja go nuts and maybe even resign!  :what:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 29, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Why the heck did we not just sign Matri on loan??  :wow:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 29, 2014, 06:41:26 PM
hope he stays.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 29, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
Why the heck did we not just sign Matri on loan??  :wow:

iirc people were bagging on matri here. I wanted him, still do. Viola always comes up with great strikers.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 29, 2014, 06:48:11 PM
Mo farah is also a better athlete than Ranocchia, but nothing to you wouldn't pay him to play football. It's nothing to do with race,  it's  the fact that they're both fullbacks who can run, offering little else. Have you actually seen Mbaye play? He's poor. Beyond that, would you rather sign him or take €2m less cash and Ranocchia instead?

Had the pleasure of watching Marco Faraoni live on Saturday, he was fantastic,  a standout performer in a great team performance from Watford.

I'm confident that if Mbaye changed his image to resemble that of the stereotypical Italian, changed his nam


e to Mattia De Sciglio or something and got his hands on an Italian passport, your opinion would be very different. I mean, you are lauding an Italian kid who couldn't cut it in Serie A over a younger Senegalese kid who is cutting it in Serie A. Speaks volumes.

He might not be worth 6 million euro, but the media are the only ones putting that tag on him. He has a bit of pace, he can tackle, and he is 19 and holding his own in the league. We could do a lot worse.

I'm confident that if Mbaye had to compete with Basta, one of the best wingbacks in Serie A for the past 3 years, he'd have played even less football than Faraoni did at Udinese. Regarding Benassi,  the next 2 seasons will show what a talent he is. He'll flourish at Torino next season.

Do not slander me by suggesting I'm a racist because I compare one tecnically limited athletic fullback to another; Marco Branca and Igli Tare are comparable in their incompetence as Sporting Directors.

The most notable form of discrimination in modern football sees domestic players of equal or superior ability overlooked to accommodate foreigners, as is depicted by us exiling Floccari and replacing him with a mediocre Portuguese  of a similar age.  Canavaro at Napoli: Britos and Fernandez are suddenly better options after 2 years behind Paolo, coincidentally when a Spanish-speaking boss takes over. A capable Neapolitan being ousted from his hometown club because his manager prefers to speak his own language in a foreign land. This is backed up by him pulling the plug on the proposed signings of Astori and Antonelli.

I'm an advocate of Italian players at Lazio because it's a Roman club, without even acknowledging the fact that Italy is second only to Spain in terms of supremacy in European football, as the last 2 European Championships at senior and u21 level. At City, I want English players. That's what gives clubs their identity; defies the point of representing your country in European competition if you field 11 foreigners, as City have this year.

There is no argument to be had regarding availability or capability of Italians to Lazio; Parma and Torino are currently above us in the league with squads assembled for considerably less money than our overly cosmopolitan one, and both regularly field 7 Italian starters. We were linked with Berardi early last season, yet spent January pursuing Anderson for about 4 times as much. Look how that panned out.

Had we signed Cigarini or Parolo rather than Biglia in the summer, Gamberini rather than Novaretti,  Diamanti instead of Anderson, and spent the last 2 weeks of the summer window chasing Quagliarella, allowing Juve the time to get a replacement, than embarrassing the club in pursuit of Yilmaz, I think it's almost certain that we'd have been 6 points better off, at least. That's what Moggi would have done.

Ranocchia's failed move to Gala  and the fast approaching deadline means we can use their desire to get Hernanes to our advantage, and get the defender as part of a deal. Make it happen Lotito. Reja is the man to help him fulfil his potential. Given the age of both our first choice centrehalves, I'd also look to take Cannavaro. One of, if not both, Biava and Dias will be going in the summer, so why wait until the market is overly competitive.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: inhocsignovinces on January 29, 2014, 06:51:18 PM
Mo farah is also a better athlete than Ranocchia, but nothing to you wouldn't pay him to play football. It's nothing to do with race,  it's  the fact that they're both fullbacks who can run, offering little else. Have you actually seen Mbaye play? He's poor. Beyond that, would you rather sign him or take €2m less cash and Ranocchia instead?

Had the pleasure of watching Marco Faraoni live on Saturday, he was fantastic,  a standout performer in a great team performance from Watford.

I'm confident that if Mbaye changed his image to resemble that of the stereotypical Italian, changed his nam


e to Mattia De Sciglio or something and got his hands on an Italian passport, your opinion would be very different. I mean, you are lauding an Italian kid who couldn't cut it in Serie A over a younger Senegalese kid who is cutting it in Serie A. Speaks volumes.

He might not be worth 6 million euro, but the media are the only ones putting that tag on him. He has a bit of pace, he can tackle, and he is 19 and holding his own in the league. We could do a lot worse.

I'm confident that if Mbaye had to compete with Basta, one of the best wingbacks in Serie A for the past 3 years, he'd have played even less football than Faraoni did at Udinese. Regarding Benassi,  the next 2 seasons will show what a talent he is. He'll flourish at Torino next season.

Do not slander me by suggesting I'm a racist because I compare one tecnically limited athletic fullback to another; Marco Branca and Igli Tare are comparable in their incompetence as Sporting Directors.

The most notable form of discrimination in modern football sees domestic players of equal or superior ability overlooked to accommodate foreigners, as is depicted by us exiling Floccari and replacing him with a mediocre Portuguese  of a similar age.  Canavaro at Napoli: Britos and Fernandez are suddenly better options after 2 years behind Paolo, coincidentally when a Spanish-speaking boss takes over. A capable Neapolitan being ousted from his hometown club because his manager prefers to speak his own language in a foreign land. This is backed up by him pulling the plug on the proposed signings of Astori and Antonelli.

I'm an advocate of Italian players at Lazio because it's a Roman club, without even acknowledging the fact that Italy is second only to Spain in terms of supremacy in European football, as the last 2 European Championships at senior and u21 level. At City, I want English players. That's what gives clubs their identity; defies the point of representing your country in European competition if you field 11 foreigners, as City have this year.

There is no argument to be had regarding availability or capability of Italians to Lazio; Parma and Torino are currently above us in the league with squads assembled for considerably less money than our overly cosmopolitan one, and both regularly field 7 Italian starters. We were linked with Berardi early last season, yet spent January pursuing Anderson for about 4 times as much. Look how that panned out.

Had we signed Cigarini or Parolo rather than Biglia in the summer, Gamberini rather than Novaretti,  Diamanti instead of Anderson, and spent the last 2 weeks of the summer window chasing Quagliarella, allowing Juve the time to get a replacement, than embarrassing the club in pursuit of Yilmaz, I think it's almost certain that we'd have been 6 points better off, at least. That's what Moggi would have done.

Ranocchia's failed move to Gala  and the fast approaching deadline means we can use their desire to get Hernanes to our advantage, and get the defender as part of a deal. Make it happen Lotito. Reja is the man to help him fulfil his potential. Given the age of both our first choice centrehalves, I'd also look to take Cannavaro. One of, if not both, Biava and Dias will be going in the summer, so why wait until the market is overly competitive.

Italian football should stay majority Italian. Turkish football should stay majority turk. People who think that is racist need to get a clue.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 29, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
Do not slander me by suggesting I'm a racist because I compare one tecnically limited athletic fullback to another; Marco Branca and Igli Tare are comparable in their incompetence as Sporting Directors.

Never said you were a racist.

Italian football should stay majority Italian. Turkish football should stay majority turk. People who think that is racist need to get a clue.

Yet if the Italian and Turkish football associations applied rules that ensured Italians and Turkish players to be the dominant nationality in the league, would or wouldn't they be branded as racist or discriminatory? Think about it.

I'm just sick of these nationalistic posts. Any Italian in Serie A who is under 21 is someone we should sign, but if you tick the same boxes and you are considered not good enough and the only differences are your passport and skin colour, what exactly is that called?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 29, 2014, 07:51:31 PM
If you read M'Baye's agents interview it seems he is a wee dick. I don't want players like this at Lazio.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 29, 2014, 08:08:58 PM
If you read M'Baye's agents interview it seems he is a wee dick. I don't want players like this at Lazio.

You mean you don't want players with agents like that? M'Baye didn't say a thing so why should he be held responsible?  :rolley:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 29, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
If you read M'Baye's agents interview it seems he is a wee dick. I don't want players like this at Lazio.

You mean you don't want players with agents like that? M'Baye didn't say a thing so why should he be held responsible?  :rolley:

It was the agent quoting M'Baye i think. His comments on Mazzarri for a start, very unprofessional. Plus the fact he is demanding high wages...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 29, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
If you read M'Baye's agents interview it seems he is a wee dick. I don't want players like this at Lazio.

You mean you don't want players with agents like that? M'Baye didn't say a thing so why should he be held responsible?  :rolley:

It was the agent quoting M'Baye i think. His comments on Mazzarri for a start, very unprofessional. Plus the fact he is demanding high wages...

Do you have a link to the comments about us not being able to meet his wage demands?

Football Italia say something about it in the title of their piece but (typically) don't mention it in the main body of the text, moreover M'Baye's agent said he's meeting Tare tomorrow, so not sure how he knows what we'll offer...

Anyway, Livorno have brought in Mesbah on loan till the end of the season so their anticipating something happening.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Killer89 on January 29, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Sell Konko....! Time again to pay wage for nothing.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 29, 2014, 11:26:19 PM
According to italian media, now Juve offered us Quag. I am guessing because they want to sign Osvaldo.

Edit: apparently both us and Trabzonspor had a deal ready for him but he turned down both offers. He would prefer to go back to Sampdoria.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 30, 2014, 12:01:46 AM
Pasalic has refused our offer and now an english team is on him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 30, 2014, 12:41:46 AM
1- All players saying no to Lazio can go :fingerup: themselves as we don't want them either, well I don't anyway

2- All players that stayed and fought for their places, despite interests from titans, are heroes FOREVER! To this category goes also players that really wanted to stay but were forced out by the management!!

3- About Croatian links, I think it is as simple as this: 1- There's a huge fan-base in that area and Lotito wants to exploit it, make profits from it in every single way. He probably has (non-football) business going on in the city of Split and 2- Reja has a summerhouse in Split and still goes there to watch the games sometimes, speaks the language fluently as he is Slovene.

4- About nationality, in the end nothing matters, except the very here and very now. We are all mammals living through the moment and the rest are only limitations and confusions of the human mind. There are no borders in reality just like there are no sun reflections on the surface of a lake, your brain makes those up. So how could it matter what you are as long as you sold your body and flesh to the market of football? Your only duty is to be a soldier out on the field. The national thing is how clubs usually get fans from abroad, you recruit a player from that country. I FFS follow Swedish league because there are 2 Palestinians, and I think Livorno and Empoli are popular in Palestine just because their fans always wave Palestinian flags for some reason. It's all in the mind, but in reality, NOTHING MATTERS AT ALL

5- Oh yeah, me following the Allsvenskan in Sweden made me mention this before; In Berisha case Lazio did nothing wrong but maybe the player himself, that I'm not sure of, but the one thing I am is Kalmar FF is to blame. Imagine Djordjevic DID sign a pre-deal with us, coming for free in the summer, but say Inter offers a huge cash amount to Nantes they can't refuse only to snap him directly now in January, so Nantes sells him to Inter and the player himself gets a better salary there, now that is what happened with Berisha except in that case we were the Inter and Kalmar the Nantes, Chievo is the Lazio in my made up scenario. Would Lotito send Djordevic to court? Probably yes. For Kalmar it was only 10 games left (of 28) and we offered 300k wich for them is too huge amount to say no to, when they accepted Tares bid.

Peace

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 30, 2014, 01:13:48 AM
The reason nationality is unfortunately relevant to the discussion is some people outside Italy, believe it or not, choose to support our club based on some mistaken idea that the Lazio fanbase is a far right-wing crusade.


Anyway, the point before wasn't to compare Floccari and Postiga's abilities but to acknowledge that moving on from Floccari is hardly moving forward when the replacement is barely any younger than him.

The worst thing we can do in January is lumber ourselves with another player on a long contract who'll just join the ranks of the dead wood.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 30, 2014, 01:21:14 AM
Do not slander me by suggesting I'm a racist because I compare one tecnically limited athletic fullback to another; Marco Branca and Igli Tare are comparable in their incompetence as Sporting Directors.

Never said you were a racist.

Italian football should stay majority Italian. Turkish football should stay majority turk. People who think that is racist need to get a clue.

Yet if the Italian and Turkish football associations applied rules that ensured Italians and Turkish players to be the dominant nationality in the league, would or wouldn't they be branded as racist or discriminatory? Think about it.

I'm just sick of these nationalistic posts. Any Italian in Serie A who is under 21 is someone we should sign, but if you tick the same boxes and you are considered not good enough and the only differences are your passport and skin colour, what exactly is that called?

It is called prioritising the welfare and prosperity of your own people; I also believe the Senegalese national league should have certain criteria that sees their own players granted such opportunity.

The demonization of nationalism is amusing, and is simply the result of media manipulation. History shows that communism has killed infinitely more people than fascism, yet if Cristiano Lucarelli gave the Livorno fans a communist salute, it's fine, but if Di Canio embraces his people who share his ideology he is branded a thug. Furthermore, the hypocrisy of the left wing is that they're unwilling to allow people contrasting views, which in itself is a direct contradiction of their self-proclaimed liberal stance.

Extremism exists on both sides, and these people are just as bad as each other; the only difference is the left wing have the mass media power to project their ideology as the good cause and manipulate history, depicting anybody who defies their capitalist monopoly as murderous tyrants.

Everybody deserves to be treated with respect, but this also applies to the indigenous people of any country. Lazio and Napoli tonight featured TWO Italian player in the starting 22. Two of Italy's biggest clubs. Yet Italy is one of the greatest footballing nations in Europe and indeed the world, and considering the populations of Rome and Naples, let alone the overall population of Italy, and the downright mediocrity of some of our players on show, everything points towards discrimination against Italian players.

I'll present it to you like this; there is a famine, and food is scarce. You can just about stretch your resources to feed yourself and your 3 children, yet their friend comes to visit and is hungry. Do you make one of your own children starve to feed somebody else's? If you follow your instinct and prioritise feeding your own family, does that make you a bad person? Of course it doesn't.

In too many cases, Italian club presidents are starving their own of opportunity, giving instead to cheap imports. This in itself is unacceptable and tyranny, on a par with racism, homophobia and apartheid. National pride is there to be celebrated, hence the popularity of the World Cup and Olympic games.

Anyway, with a few days to go in the transfer window, it appears Lotare haven't learned their lesson. The most likely look unlikely to displace first-team players, just like the summer batch. Oh well.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Nass on January 30, 2014, 01:58:48 AM
Do not slander me by suggesting I'm a racist because I compare one tecnically limited athletic fullback to another; Marco Branca and Igli Tare are comparable in their incompetence as Sporting Directors.

Never said you were a racist.

Italian football should stay majority Italian. Turkish football should stay majority turk. People who think that is racist need to get a clue.

Yet if the Italian and Turkish football associations applied rules that ensured Italians and Turkish players to be the dominant nationality in the league, would or wouldn't they be branded as racist or discriminatory? Think about it.

I'm just sick of these nationalistic posts. Any Italian in Serie A who is under 21 is someone we should sign, but if you tick the same boxes and you are considered not good enough and the only differences are your passport and skin colour, what exactly is that called?

It is called prioritising the welfare and prosperity of your own people; I also believe the Senegalese national league should have certain criteria that sees their own players granted such opportunity.

The demonization of nationalism is amusing, and is simply the result of media manipulation. History shows that communism has killed infinitely more people than fascism, yet if Cristiano Lucarelli gave the Livorno fans a communist salute, it's fine, but if Di Canio embraces his people who share his ideology he is branded a thug. Furthermore, the hypocrisy of the left wing is that they're unwilling to allow people contrasting views, which in itself is a direct contradiction of their self-proclaimed liberal stance.

Extremism exists on both sides, and these people are just as bad as each other; the only difference is the left wing have the mass media power to project their ideology as the good cause and manipulate history, depicting anybody who defies their capitalist monopoly as murderous tyrants.

Everybody deserves to be treated with respect, but this also applies to the indigenous people of any country. Lazio and Napoli tonight featured TWO Italian player in the starting 22. Two of Italy's biggest clubs. Yet Italy is one of the greatest footballing nations in Europe and indeed the world, and considering the populations of Rome and Naples, let alone the overall population of Italy, and the downright mediocrity of some of our players on show, everything points towards discrimination against Italian players.

I'll present it to you like this; there is a famine, and food is scarce. You can just about stretch your resources to feed yourself and your 3 children, yet their friend comes to visit and is hungry. Do you make one of your own children starve to feed somebody else's? If you follow your instinct and prioritise feeding your own family, does that make you a bad person? Of course it doesn't.

In too many cases, Italian club presidents are starving their own of opportunity, giving instead to cheap imports. This in itself is unacceptable and tyranny, on a par with racism, homophobia and apartheid. National pride is there to be celebrated, hence the popularity of the World Cup and Olympic games.

Anyway, with a few days to go in the transfer window, it appears Lotare haven't learned their lesson. The most likely look unlikely to displace first-team players, just like the summer batch. Oh well.

Man, you are contradicting yourself in so many ways that it'll seem to take a lifetime to enlighten the darkened sides of the entire whole of what became to be the reality you speak of, as your vision only spotting a very restricted area of it, I teach my children to share every little they have, even if it was with an enemy- That's the only thing I'm going to say otherwise we will get into a huge politically loaded discussion way out off topic
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:16:55 AM
I dont really get the point of the above discussion. Should an Italian company decide that at least 50% of the staff should be Italian when the quota is currently much lower, it would be regarded as a racist move and discriminatory.

Reja basically confirmed Floccai out, Postiga in and his stance on Hernanes is suddenly lees convincing. The fact he discussed Felipe Anderson as a potential replacement is the biggest clue yet.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 30, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
Ha jeez. Comparing Italian clubs signing foreigners with apartheid ffs.

Not really sure where to begin since you're sounding like the aluminium-foil hat type but I'll delicately point out firstly; the mass media are almost entirely owned and controlled by tycoons who are out to maximise profits so they're about the furthest thing from left wing there is.

Even from there your point is confusing. You seem to live under some idea that Italian presidents have cooked up this plan to deliberately leave young Italians out in the cold. Discrimination is a huge word to use. Why would a bunch of Italians running Italian clubs discriminate against Italian players?

I'd just say it's more likely they're looking for good players in less wealthy countries that they can sell at a higher price. You know, the good ol' exploitation of cheaper labour? No different to a company hiring a bloke from Pakistan because he'll work for less money than a local would. True capitalism.

Promoting nationalism in the 21st century is as outdated as polarising the world in left v right terms, let alone applying those concepts to football.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 30, 2014, 02:55:25 AM
I don't know how the fans in Rome cope with the usual bullshit of the management !! but i'm really disgusted about the fact that we never look for what we WANT or what additions should we get...
we sign players according to the worse criteria in the world of football.

I'm really disappointed again and again and again !!

hey someone please tell lotito that there's a Lebanese players contract was terminated on a mutual consent with his team...and he got an EU passport... want to sign the 37 frog??? maybe he can waste some 500 k per 6 months before releasing him to a shameful retirement ...
what da **** are we doing ...
we do lack not only vision but the average sense of managing a football team....
and what if this management took control over our beloved club...
shame shame ...really i'm fed up with this chit.

i will be waiting for the latest from ata hotel due to the fact that it's the favorite place and time from our lazy fat chit president to do business.
and sorry for the language but I'm really MAD
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Aquile12 on January 30, 2014, 03:10:20 AM
Icardi is off the table, Inter have agreed a loan move to Monaco with an option to buy in the summer, and Floccari looks set to go to Sassuolo along with Antonio Sanabria from Barcelona. I have to say, I'm quite impressed with Sassuolo's scouts, Sanabria is a big talent.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: MCRLaziale on January 30, 2014, 06:47:15 AM
Ha jeez. Comparing Italian clubs signing foreigners with apartheid ffs.

Not really sure where to begin since you're sounding like the aluminium-foil hat type but I'll delicately point out firstly; the mass media are almost entirely owned and controlled by tycoons who are out to maximise profits so they're about the furthest thing from left wing there is.

Even from there your point is confusing. You seem to live under some idea that Italian presidents have cooked up this plan to deliberately leave young Italians out in the cold. Discrimination is a huge word to use. Why would a bunch of Italians running Italian clubs discriminate against Italian players?

I'd just say it's more likely they're looking for good players in less wealthy countries that they can sell at a higher price. You know, the good ol' exploitation of cheaper labour? No different to a company hiring a bloke from Pakistan because he'll work for less money than a local would. True capitalism.

Promoting nationalism in the 21st century is as outdated as polarising the world in left v right terms, let alone applying those concepts to football.

The 'left-wing' movement is a vehicle utilised by those tycoons you mention; it isn't liberal, its just a wolf in sheep's clothing. The ultimate goal is a global capitalist monopoly. What have all recent history's 'dictators' got in common? They all resist the dollar, their banks are nationalised, and refuse to hand over there national assets. Look into the Gaddafi situation; his biggest crime was imploring the rest of Africa to trade in gold (which America simply hasn't had for about 90 years) rather than the dollar. Under his ruling Libya went from one of the worlds poorest nations, to one of the most prosperous. He used their oil money to develop a prosperous social infrastructure. A cell of mercenaries invade his country under capitalist direction, he responds within his rights and mobilises his army, and NATO deems it an act of tyranny and backs these 'rebels'. Western media tells sensationalist lies, he is killed, and now these 'liberated' Libyans live in debt in a false democracy like the rest of us in the West. Guess who the Libyan bank and oil now belong to? Such contrasts in the reality of the situation and the one that Western history depicts raises question marks about the entire generally accepted truth of notorious events and villains. Nationalism is demonised because it protects it's people from capitalist control.
My political stance is more 'Right' with regards to home policy, but extremely 'Left' regarding foreign policy. I'm a paradox, therefore don't fit into any category. My Great granddad was a member of the original IRA, who defended their  families and land against British repression. I support the Palestinian cause. I'm neither racist or anti-immigration, as long as it doesn't impose on the quality of living of the indigenous people.

Anyway, enough of the monologues. Felipe Anderson is garbage. Our only hope is to loan him out and hope he improves significantly. If only we'd signed an Italian.......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Caput Mundi on January 30, 2014, 07:39:14 AM
There you go, we agree on a lot more than we thought.

Still don't agree on nationalism though. It's basically used by governments to drum up support for interventions people would otherwise oppose (ie. in Libya) or to distract people from real problems they face. It takes no understanding of the world or thought to wave a flag and cheer for the place you happen to have been born in.

Stir up enough boneheads, like the EDL, Tea Party fanatics or the Aussies who rioted at Cronulla, about Muslims or immigration and it only takes a couple of days to bury an issue that affects peoples lives in the here and now.

In football, people now complain that France's NT isn't French enough, Germany's isn't German enough but they overlook that back in the day a guy like Alfredo di Stefano played for three countries, Ferenc Puskas went to a World Cup playing for Spain (these days FIFA regs can prevent bona fide refugees from playing for their adopted nation). Likewise, Italy, which hardly has a national identity anyway, has always had a tradition of claiming the diaspora as its own even when they're barely Italian, ala Camoranesi.

Your main concern about club identity is the nationality of the players in our team. Fair enough. I'm concerned with identity too and I don't mind foreigners running around (if they're good) but I fume when I think of Lotito giving up the chance to have us play at the Flaminio for his own personal gain. I fume when Roman-born and bred laziali prefer to slag the club off and sit at home on the couch during a game because they spend too much time reading absolute drivel on Facebook.

And it brings me back to F. Anderson. We were both against his signing but you say 'if only it were an Italian.' You don't think we could've used a similar sum of money to find a different player somewhere in South America that could make a contribution. Seems to me the real issue is Tare relied on the word or advice of the wrong person. Why do you say Italian clubs discriminate against Italians; what would they have to gain from doing that?

NB: before a moderator comes along and bans me -  this debate is more interesting than following whatever two-bob rumours LLSN and Cittaceleste come out with. The transfer deadline will reveal all, tutto il resto e' noia. :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 30, 2014, 08:34:51 AM
Icardi is off the table, Inter have agreed a loan move to Monaco with an option to buy in the summer, and Floccari looks set to go to Sassuolo along with Antonio Sanabria from Barcelona. I have to say, I'm quite impressed with Sassuolo's scouts, Sanabria is a big talent.


It's merda who scouted Sanabria. They made a deal with Sassuolo and Sanabria will play there until the summer when he'll join merda. They also signed the Swedish 17y striker Berisha who looks to have a bright future.

Who do we sign?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Zouma on January 30, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
Icardi is off the table, Inter have agreed a loan move to Monaco with an option to buy in the summer, and Floccari looks set to go to Sassuolo along with Antonio Sanabria from Barcelona. I have to say, I'm quite impressed with Sassuolo's scouts, Sanabria is a big talent.


It's merda who scouted Sanabria. They made a deal with Sassuolo and Sanabria will play there until the summer when he'll join merda. They also signed the Swedish 17y striker Berisha who looks to have a bright future.

Who do we sign?

Was just about to say that!

With Lotito it's always going to be difficult, I mean Sanabria cost them €5m and if he does exeptionally well that could go up to €12m.

You can imagine the b*tching and crying on here if we'd spent that kinda money but more often than not that's what genuine young talent costs, even then it's a gamble if they'll actually amount to anything.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 30, 2014, 08:46:46 AM
Looks like the 'new' target is Kone if Hernanes leaves.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 09:58:06 AM
Ok so now we cannot even sign Pasalic (whom we were complaining that is too young, poor, whatever) because Chelsea wants him. So he is not so poor after all...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 10:52:04 AM
Yes, Pasalic refused Lazio. 
Chelsea is going to buy him, as usual just to put there brand-name on him and then sell him for double the price.  They don't even want to play him, it's just going to be like with De Bruyne and many other talents.  Not good enough for Chelsea, but they buy them anyway, put the Chelsea-stamp on them and then sell again to make profit.  It's just a business they are running nothing more.  I despise it, it's a cancer !

Also Cannavaro will leave Napoli because the brazilian Henrique will arrive there and looks like he's going to join Sassuolo, soon they will have a more competitive squad then we do ???

To 'supposed' Kone bid of 4mill seems to be media made-up, and this was the best 'rumour' we had.

So Lotito can't even sign a bench-sitting CB from Napoli who wants to leave and a 19y talent to join the primavera, once again we are the laughing stock in europe ......

At the end of this mercato we will have Postiga to replace Floccari.
Not surprising with Lotito, we are us to it ......      :bravo:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 10:52:09 AM
It is official:

Lazio signs Postiga
6 months loan with buyout clause.

ValenciaCF.com:

"Deals have also been reached, pending the relevant medicals, for the loans of Hélder Postiga to S.S. Lazio and Andrés Guardado to Bayer 04 Leverkusen, with both agreements holding an option to buy at the end of the current season.

Postiga and Guardado have today travelled to Rome and Leverkusen, respectively, to undergo their medicals with the permission of Valencia CF."

Good deal if you ask me
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 10:54:39 AM
Yes, Pasalic refused Lazio. 
Chelsea is going to buy him, as usual just to put there brand-name on him and then sell him for double the price.  They don't even want to play him, it's just going to be like with De Bruyne and many other talents.  Not good enough for Chelsea, but they buy them anyway, put the Chelsea-stamp on them and then sell again to make profit.  It's just a business they are running nothing more.  I despise it, it's a cancer !

Also Cannavaro will leave Napoli because the brazilian Henrique will arrive there and looks like he's going to join Sassuolo, soon they will have a more competitive squad then we do ???

To 'supposed' Kone bid of 4mill seems to be media made-up, and this was the best 'rumour' we had.

So Lotito can't even sign a bench-sitting CB from Napoli who wants to leave and a 19y talent to join the primavera, once again we are the laughing stock in europe ......

At the end of this mercato we will have Postiga to replace Floccari.
Not surprising with Lotito, we are us to it ......      :bravo:


Common, is not that bad. At the end of the day if we end up with Postiga instead of Floc and we dont sell Hernanes, is not that bad. I assume that the arrival of a defender depends on Ciani. If he leaves, we will buy. If not not.

And let's not make a big deal out of Pasalic. 99% of the members said that he was useless anyways. now suddenly he is a big talent.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 11:11:22 AM
Common, is not that bad. At the end of the day if we end up with Postiga instead of Floc and we dont sell Hernanes, is not that bad. I assume that the arrival of a defender depends on Ciani. If he leaves, we will buy. If not not.
And let's not make a big deal out of Pasalic. 99% of the members said that he was useless anyways. now suddenly he is a big talent.

Not me, i want prospects like Pasalic to be signed, but first to join the primavera.  Let's face it, they are the Lazio-future because reinforcing the first squad an making it competitive is what Lotito can never achieve. I think Pasalic is a missed opportunity.

Yes, Hernanes is probably staying and that is the best news for this mercato, now somebody just has to put a gun to his head and make him sign that new contract!

Personnaly i agree with you on Postiga, it's better to get him then stay on with Flocc, more experienced and i have seen him put in a few important goals.  He will not score more then Flocc but he just has that little bit extra if you aks me?  And also important, he's fits the lone striker position and Flocc did not.

With Hernanes staying (hopefully) and Postiga replacing Flocc it is indeed not a complete failiure this mercato, but still in my opinion a good CB had to be signed, a decent LB/RB sub and someone to replace Ederson, preferably Kone?  Because it was obvious last night, without Hernanes and Candreva on behind the striker we are not good enough?


Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on January 30, 2014, 11:14:19 AM
Hernanes' situation is still not clear, after offering 4 million for Kone - seemed was rejected, now we offer 7 million for Bonaventura.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
Hernanes' situation is still not clear, after offering 4 million for Kone - seemed was rejected, now we offer 7 million for Bonaventura.

The situation with Hernanes is that he has to decide today if he stays or not. We are willing to offer 5 years for 2.2-2.3 mil but he has to renew today/tomorrow. His agent is now negotiating both with us and Inter. If he wants to go, there will always be a solution to reach an agreement with Inter.

Kone, Bonaventura, etc are all media fantasy.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 30, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
So, Postiga cannot play in EL? he already represented Valencia in 5 matches:

http://cittaceleste.it/notizie/dal-mondo/notizia/16862-floccari-libera-un-posto-col-sassuolo-e-quasi-fatta-helder-postiga-in-orbita-lazio (http://cittaceleste.it/notizie/dal-mondo/notizia/16862-floccari-libera-un-posto-col-sassuolo-e-quasi-fatta-helder-postiga-in-orbita-lazio)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 30, 2014, 11:27:13 AM
The thing with Hernanes is that Lotito want Hernanes to publicly say that he wants to leave if that's the case, then Lotito won't be held responsible. Now Lotito went public with a new contract offer so he looks like the good guy.

If Hernanes wants Inter,  he needs to tell us fans or Lotito won't sell him. So unless Hernanes goes out and says he want to leave in the next 24h then expect him to stay.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 11:39:03 AM
Postiga arrived. Looks a bit like Messi :) Pitty he does not play like him...

http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/postiga-sbarca-a-roma-foto-esclusive-41006 (http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/postiga-sbarca-a-roma-foto-esclusive-41006)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 11:46:01 AM
It's hard to blame Lotito for this situation. We've got Postiga, but Pasalic appears to have chosen Chelsea over us. Can't really blame Lotito for that. As much as I am unconvinced by Postiga, I cannot think of a better player who was available for the price we sold Floccari at, so...  :bravo:

Also, we've handled this Hernanes situation beautifully in my opinion. With 18 months to go, we appear to have laid down an ultimatum - sign this deal, making you our highest earner or sign this deal with Inter, giving us lots of money. That's just great business  :bravo:

The only concern is that we're making great business decisions rather than footballing decisions. In the summer, it's got to be the other way around, but for now  :bravo:

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 30, 2014, 11:50:48 AM
But, if Postiga cannot participate in EL then it's stupid business IMO.. or do you guys anticipate he will take Klose's role in Serie A and Klose will take EL? Is he even that good of an attacker?

Also read that Floccari was sold for 2.2M not 1.8.. we made a great deal although he was on my favorite players.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 30, 2014, 11:54:00 AM
I think that Reja will give Perea a chance in EL and will use both Klose and Postiga in Serie A
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 30, 2014, 11:54:50 AM
Is Floccari official?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
Is Floccari official?

Official, no, but enough of a done deal for Reja to say that he's gone.

I think that Reja will give Perea a chance in EL and will use both Klose and Postiga in Serie A

Reja said last night that one of his 'objectives' is to get the most out of young players and build a team for the future. He said it in such a way that it sounds like he's only staying the summer and that it is an order from the hierarchy. With that in mind, Perea may get more outings than Postiga.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Rizmo on January 30, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
Postiga arrived. Looks a bit like Messi :) Pitty he does not play like him...

[url]http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/postiga-sbarca-a-roma-foto-esclusive-41006[/url] ([url]http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/postiga-sbarca-a-roma-foto-esclusive-41006[/url])


I'm guessing Lotito has to pay flight tickets since he arrived with Ryanair  :razz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 30, 2014, 12:01:29 PM
I guess we all can agree that Hernanes tried to work this contract thing like a professional, always saying he's happy in Rome and there is no rush to sign a new contract but now I see this turning upside down. I'm beginning to feel that he's an idiot who has had his thoughts in bigger clubs for quite some time and he is screwing the fans and Lazio hard. If we can't sell him now, I can see some whistling towards him. Why is it so hard for him to sign a bit longer contract with better salary and maybe buy-out clause? That way he could prove his words and if we would sell him we would get good compensation.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
No it is not stupid business. Reja concentrates on Serie A and not on EL. Probably Perea will play in EL anyway. Just like we've seen yesterday. I think the main objective was to find a good sub/partner for Klose in Serie A.

I hope Hernanes stays. Seems more and more likely since Inter decided today NOT to sell Mbaye. now the parts are suddenly far apart (20 mil asks Lotare, 13-14 offers Inter). And if Lotito manages to convince Hernanes to sign the extension on the way we end up with a brazilian NT player with a solid contract and at a very good age. Perfect situation if you ask me.

I like the way Lotito handled this mercato too, Cathal. The only extra move might be to sell Ciani today and get a decent defender tomorrow. We saw that Novaretti is useless, we might give him away too.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 12:04:05 PM
Postiga arrived. Looks a bit like Messi :) Pitty he does not play like him...

[url]http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/postiga-sbarca-a-roma-foto-esclusive-41006[/url] ([url]http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/primo-piano/postiga-sbarca-a-roma-foto-esclusive-41006[/url])


I'm guessing Lotito has to pay flight tickets since he arrived with Ryanair  :razz:


I'm guessing that also means Postiga is only staying for 6 months, since everyone knows that once you start booking luggage, Ryanair ain't so cheap anymore...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 30, 2014, 12:04:27 PM
Hernanes should sign the contract or be sold immediately.

Perea will get chance more than Postiga, I believe. Postiga is, simply, stop-gap until summer.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: 117bono117 on January 30, 2014, 12:43:23 PM
can a free player signs for the team after the transfer window? like reveillere did with napoli..
i'm landing in rome in a week..will get 30 in a couple of months...i will be as good as our new acquisitions as a striker... i promise... anyone can help the team pulling this amazing super deal? i will cope for 40 k per year  :beer:...
embarrassing transfer campaigns....
what's happening with the ultras? read something that's it's going nasty in rome..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 30, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
Not going to diss Postiga before he kicks a ball for Lazio but the theory that the only reason Valencia are selling him is because of financial issues is surely untrue since they have made a big for Osvaldo.

Either way I hope Postiga can settle well here.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 01:25:07 PM
Regarding Hernanes, fans asked Onazi in training what the story is and he simply said that Hernanes stays. Let's see...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 30, 2014, 01:30:50 PM
Regarding Hernanes, fans asked Onazi in training what the story is and he simply said that Hernanes stays. Let's see...

In the end imagine Onazi to go to Inter and Hernanes stays at Lazio  :beer:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Ed on January 30, 2014, 01:33:42 PM
I will be glad to praise Postiga if he does some good for us but I just can't see it at all. I can remember the number of times I've watched Portugal and thought "I wonder what they could do with a striker in their team". On paper they had one, his name was Postiga...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
I guess we all can agree that Hernanes tried to work this contract thing like a professional, always saying he's happy in Rome and there is no rush to sign a new contract but now I see this turning upside down. I'm beginning to feel that he's an idiot who has had his thoughts in bigger clubs for quite some time and he is screwing the fans and Lazio hard. If we can't sell him now, I can see some whistling towards him. Why is it so hard for him to sign a bit longer contract with better salary and maybe buy-out clause? That way he could prove his words and if we would sell him we would get good compensation.

Well, you cannot say that you are happy and want to stay BUT refuse to sign an extension. In today's world, you know that this has an impact on your price and therefore on your club. I think the problem is that he is happy here but that his agent keeps telling him that he can get a better salary somewhere else and that he should not sign. Apparently Lee has a 10% fee in case we sell Hernanes. Imagine the difference between getting 2 mil in one go or not. Of course Lee has his interest to sell Hernanes to Inter.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 01:45:12 PM
So now that Inter does not want to sell him, Mbaye's agent says that he would have liked to come and that Lazio is a good enough team. Yesterday he was saying that he prefers to move to Monaco or Sunderland. Funny these agents...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 30, 2014, 01:57:14 PM
Agents are scums from "this" side of the law.

Inter pull off Mbaye from the deal, so Lotito asks for 20 milion, only cash. That's the business.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
I find it really good to be on the other side of the negotiations with Lotito. I mean our usual scenario is that we chase a player for one mercatto, he is almost arriving, planes are about to take off, etc then the deal seems to go downhill and we eventually fail. For the first time in 3 years I feel good if a deal is failing! I like Hernanes and if he stays I will be happy! And I dont want to send him to a rival. Imagine that Inter's supporters are living now what we were living last summer with Yilmaz! One day left and no time to hunt somebody else!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:09:54 PM
Hernanes just left Formello in a flood of tears...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Hernanes just left Formello in a flood of tears...

WTF? I mean WTF? If Tare pushes him into going, then F.U.C.K. YOU TARE!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 30, 2014, 02:13:00 PM
(http://net-storage.tccstatic.com/storage/lalaziosiamonoi.it/img_notizie/thumb1/1b1f2b36f453ba5cd451d34f441c4132-41267-88574e39e8cc4c0aa47542b4aecaea0d.jpg)

Shit
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 30, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
It seems to me that he doesn't want to leave. He left the meeting with Tare in tears. I think he is being forced out the club. This would be a very sad day if true.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:16:09 PM
This image! So that fecking Albino and the obese arse are actually pushing Hernanes away while hoping to stay clear in front of the supporters by blaming him for leaving! That explains every single move that happened! Explains why Onazi and Reja are saying that they know that he wants to stay. because he wants to stay but the offer is a bullshit. They want to sell him. Vafancullo Lotare!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:18:11 PM
This image! So that fecking Albino and the obese arse are actually pushing Hernanes away while hoping to stay clear in front of the supporters by blaming him for leaving! That explains every single move that happened! Explains why Onazi and Reja are saying that they know that he wants to stay. because he wants to stay but the offer is a bullshit. They want to sell him. Vafancullo Lotare!

And the Quagliarella speculation hots up...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 02:18:58 PM
Well it seems it's very simple..either he extends or he leaves.

Why be in tears, if he doesn't want to extend?

Strange situation really, someone is lying.

Hernanes says he wants to stat
Lotito says he isn't for sale
The club delivers an ultimatum, extend or leave.

Who is the bad guy?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 30, 2014, 02:19:40 PM
my god, f.ucking unbelievable
i know some will be delighted hernanes is shipped out of lazio pronto, but we'll not have another chance to have such a player in our team in many years to come. parolo and stuff can go f,uck themselves, lotare can go f.uck themselves, unbelievable, simply unbelievable
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 30, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
Well it seems it's very simple..either he extends or he leaves.

Why be in tears, if he doesn't want to extend?

Strange situation really, someone is lying.

Hernanes says he wants to stat
Lotito says he isn't for sale
The club delivers an ultimatum, extend or leave.

Who is the bad guy?

Well he went into a meeting with Tare and left in tears. For all we know the contract extension offer was removed and he was told he will be sold.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 30, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
This is exactly the way Nesta left us.  :sevil:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 30, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
Well it seems it's very simple..either he extends or he leaves.

Why be in tears, if he doesn't want to extend?

Strange situation really, someone is lying.

Hernanes says he wants to stat
Lotito says he isn't for sale
The club delivers an ultimatum, extend or leave.

Who is the bad guy?

Well he went into a meeting with Tare and left in tears. For all we know the contract extension offer was removed and he was told he will be sold.
removed as in hernanes refused the contract or lotare unilaterally cancelled the offer?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
it must be this. i mean he is leaving Formello in tears. If he would have been allowed to stay he would have finished the training, etc. Leaving means that they want him in Milan!
Fecking arseholes!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
There's also the possibility that he wants to go to Inter, but is sad to leave the club. Let's not jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Arabic Laziale on January 30, 2014, 02:24:28 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1545882_10203082708252798_1070228883_n.jpg)

Welcome Postiga
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
Well it seems it's very simple..either he extends or he leaves.

Why be in tears, if he doesn't want to extend?

Strange situation really, someone is lying.

Hernanes says he wants to stat
Lotito says he isn't for sale
The club delivers an ultimatum, extend or leave.

Who is the bad guy?

Well he went into a meeting with Tare and left in tears. For all we know the contract extension offer was removed and he was told he will be sold.
removed as in hernanes refused the contract or lotare unilaterally cancelled the offer?

If he would have refused the contract he would not have left in tears. This is a guy, like the article says, that never shows such emotions. I mean he was put in a tough situation and kicked out. How long are we gonna accept these 2 clowns?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 30, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
Well it seems it's very simple..either he extends or he leaves.

Why be in tears, if he doesn't want to extend?

Strange situation really, someone is lying.

Hernanes says he wants to stat
Lotito says he isn't for sale
The club delivers an ultimatum, extend or leave.

Who is the bad guy?

Well he went into a meeting with Tare and left in tears. For all we know the contract extension offer was removed and he was told he will be sold.
removed as in hernanes refused the contract or lotare unilaterally cancelled the offer?

Suppose it could be either and we may not know like Nesta until a while later. Lotito will pin it on Hernanes and Hernanes can't say too much if he is to fit in at this new club.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 02:26:44 PM
Why the fu ck are our signings flying with ryan air...

W t f?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:26:50 PM
If I understand correctly, Di Marzio claims that our contract offer was rejected and there's no agreement with Inter, but there will be.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 02:27:15 PM
The only reason he should leave in tears if because they are not giving him a contract extension, that's the only logical thing.  He won't be crying in his car for wanting to go to Inter, that's bull.

He does not want to leave and wants to sign his new contract, that's the only truth possible.

Lotare are just bullshitting us and everybody all the way true this transfer-saga, wanting Hernanes to be the bad guy, the don't deserve to even be at this club for one second.

If i was in Rome i'd go help barricade Formello with those 2 clowns inside, this cannot be tolarated!

There goes our star-player, just shocking, i'm truely sick from this ......
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: LofL on January 30, 2014, 02:27:46 PM
This is exactly the way Nesta left us.  :sevil:

Nesta never planned to leave us as a bosman player. He made sure we got as much as possible for him.

Why so surprised? Many of us have said for two years now that we either have to extend or sell.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:28:52 PM
Vinicus to Padova is official.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:29:01 PM
There's also the possibility that he wants to go to Inter, but is sad to leave the club. Let's not jump to conclusions.

Then he would not have come to training today. Remember that this is a guy who is not easily pissed off.

I think we will hear the official variant from the fecking clowns: "We did our best to keep him, we offered a contract, but we could not match Inter's offer and all". The only thing that will not match will be Profeta's tears.

Reminds me of this:

"Nesta: I was not given time to collect my things when I left Lazio for AC Milan"
"I remember that day like it was yesterday. We were training in Formello and Massimo Cragnotti [son of former president Sergio] called us in because someone had to be sold. He handed me the phone and told me that I should agree [to a transfer] because Lazio needed money. He gave me no time to get my things and I ran to catch the plane to Milan. There was sort of presentation at San Siro before a friendly, and at one point I turned around to see [Hernan] Crespo. They had also sold him, to Inter!"
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Giolazio on January 30, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
What really bugs me is the timing. We sell our biggest asset with barely any time to bring other players in. We will end up panic buying or signing no one.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 02:35:22 PM
Yeah the timing is super bad, with Lotitos history in mind I doubt we will get anyone else but Postiga and that may very well be Lotitos plan...

I can't believe we're about to sell Hernanes without having someone to replace him...

If it happens today or tomorrow, then I will have lost the last respect I had for lotito. You don't sell your biggest star in the end of the mercato when it means you cannot replace him.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:35:29 PM
This is exactly the way Nesta left us.  :sevil:

Nesta never planned to leave us as a bosman player. He made sure we got as much as possible for him.

Why so surprised? Many of us have said for two years now that we either have to extend or sell.

Again, he would not cry for being pushed to sign a contract for 2.2 mil euro or for not being allowed to go to Inter (he said that he is comfortable in Rome, that he feels home, Reja said it too, Onazi said it just now). In that case he would feel angry and would leave like Zarate was leaving Formello with windows closed and pissed off. Hernanes never cries. It can be just that it was made clear that he is not wanted and he has to leave.

Moreover, this is creating a lot of distress. The players see him as a leader and think that he will stay and now the leader leaves in tears. Tells a lot about what the atmosphere will be!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
Then he would not have come to training today. Remember that this is a guy who is not easily pissed off.

I think we will hear the official variant from the fecking clowns: "We did our best to keep him, we offered a contract, but we could not match Inter's offer and all". The only thing that will not match will be Profeta's tears.

Reminds me of this:

"Nesta: I was not given time to collect my things when I left Lazio for AC Milan"
"I remember that day like it was yesterday. We were training in Formello and Massimo Cragnotti [son of former president Sergio] called us in because someone had to be sold. He handed me the phone and told me that I should agree [to a transfer] because Lazio needed money. He gave me no time to get my things and I ran to catch the plane to Milan. There was sort of presentation at San Siro before a friendly, and at one point I turned around to see [Hernan] Crespo. They had also sold him, to Inter!"

That's it, i agree.  I'm heartbroken here i really am, there goes another Lazio-star, to just be thrown away like a cheque to cash in.
History repeating itself and another darkblack day for the deticated fans!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Vinicus to Padova is official.

Maybe Hernanes is sad that Vinicius is leaving?

Sorry for the joke at the wrong timing, but making jokes is the only thing left in these moments.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 30, 2014, 02:42:58 PM
It's painful.. really painful..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
I am a Lazio-man in heart and soul, for the rest of my life no matter what.

But i've never understood this club.
Most of the talents and stars in Italy do not want to play here, only now and then a foreign prospect?
The stars and talents who are here, love the club and want to stay are forced out for money!

I mean what's to be achieved with this kind of management, only financiel health and for the rest NOTHING more ...   devestating for the fans ..............
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 30, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
Well it seems it's very simple..either he extends or he leaves.

Why be in tears, if he doesn't want to extend?

Strange situation really, someone is lying.

Hernanes says he wants to stat
Lotito says he isn't for sale
The club delivers an ultimatum, extend or leave.

Who is the bad guy?

Well he went into a meeting with Tare and left in tears. For all we know the contract extension offer was removed and he was told he will be sold.
removed as in hernanes refused the contract or lotare unilaterally cancelled the offer?

If he would have refused the contract he would not have left in tears. This is a guy, like the article says, that never shows such emotions. I mean he was put in a tough situation and kicked out. How long are we gonna accept these 2 clowns?
True, I'm more inclined to believe the latter. Hernanes may not be universally accepted here and people even preferred mediocre players over hernanes as long as they're italian, but damn, hernanes in tears, find me someone more loyal and with more affection to lazio.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 30, 2014, 02:48:11 PM
Not so sad if Hernanes go, but really sad to see him in tears. Makes me cry.   :wuzz:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 02:51:53 PM
Can someone clarify when the mercato ends, isn't it at 23 cet in Italy?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 02:53:05 PM
Not so sad if Hernanes go, but really sad to see him in tears. Makes me cry.   :wuzz:

He was very much underrated most of the time by fans and spectators, but mark my words, there will not be a talent like him in a lazio jersey again for the next decade or more .....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
This video is the saddest Lazio moment since Nesta left:

HERNANES lascia la LAZIO. Le sue lacrime uscendo da Formello (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npASETLRyRI#)
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 30, 2014, 02:56:26 PM
Why are you guys jumping on something that you don't know if it's true or not and why is it happening?

Hernanes left crying but nobody knows why. I've seen so many players who leave club in tears because they like the club and love the fans but that doesn't mean they want to stay. Hernanes might love the city, might love the fans and the players might think of him as a leader but if he wants to go to another team that is something different. Him wanting to go to Inter doesn't mean that he doesn't have to cry because he had some great moments at Lazio, the team was his first in Europe but maybe the time for a change has come.

I'm not on Lotito/Tare's side and I'm not on Hernanes' side. I'm just thinking why and what the problem could have been.

I don't think he is a leader, he might be a good friend to Onazi and the other players, he might be helpful from time to time but he is too inconsistent to be a leader.

The timing is really bad but I hope that Lotito has someone in mind.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
Why are you guys jumping on something that you don't know if it's true or not and why is it happening?

Hernanes left crying but nobody knows why. I've seen so many players who leave club in tears because they like the club and love the fans but that doesn't mean they want to stay. Hernanes might love the city, might love the fans and the players might think of him as a leader but if he wants to go to another team that is something different. Him wanting to go to Inter doesn't mean that he doesn't have to cry because he had some great moments at Lazio, the team was his first in Europe but maybe the time for a change has come.

I'm not on Lotito/Tare's side and I'm not on Hernanes' side. I'm just thinking why and what the problem could have been.

I don't think he is a leader, he might be a good friend to Onazi and the other players, he might be helpful from time to time but he is too inconsistent to be a leader.

The timing is really bad but I hope that Lotito has someone in mind.

Add to that the fact that all reports say he rejected our contract offer because he wants to leave and that at this moment, there's no agreement and no idea of how Lotito may react to the latest developments...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 03:01:00 PM
This video is the saddest Lazio moment since Nesta left:

HERNANES lascia la LAZIO. Le sue lacrime uscendo da Formello ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npASETLRyRI#[/url])


I just watched this now, can't bare to watch i again.
I mean this what i'm saying now, i was just crying along with hime, is swear .......
I don't care what happens next this mercato, i want it to over already.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 03:01:40 PM
Why are you guys jumping on something that you don't know if it's true or not and why is it happening?

Hernanes left crying but nobody knows why. I've seen so many players who leave club in tears because they like the club and love the fans but that doesn't mean they want to stay. Hernanes might love the city, might love the fans and the players might think of him as a leader but if he wants to go to another team that is something different. Him wanting to go to Inter doesn't mean that he doesn't have to cry because he had some great moments at Lazio, the team was his first in Europe but maybe the time for a change has come.

I'm not on Lotito/Tare's side and I'm not on Hernanes' side. I'm just thinking why and what the problem could have been.

I don't think he is a leader, he might be a good friend to Onazi and the other players, he might be helpful from time to time but he is too inconsistent to be a leader.

The timing is really bad but I hope that Lotito has someone in mind.

Because he participated in the training. That's the only reason I'm impressed by his tears. If he wanted to leave, he would have come, say good bye and leave. What was the point of joining the training and putting effort into it? Plus Onazi saying that he will stay makes me think that the players knew that he wanted to stay and that this is why he came as if nothing happened. Until the Albino came and kicked him out!

Now wait for the official story in which he did not want to renew and had to be sold. Blah Blah. I am sick at the thought that we did not extend Hernanes but keep paying 2 mil per year for Ederson to handle the Lazio twitter page.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Mark on January 30, 2014, 03:02:51 PM
There's also the possibility that he wants to go to Inter, but is sad to leave the club. Let's not jump to conclusions.

Seems to me the more likely interpretation of the situation.
Anybody who spents a few years in a job/environment he cares about would be sad to leave. This just shows that Hernanes has come to love Lazio over the years, which in this day and age is something special.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on January 30, 2014, 03:05:12 PM
Why are you guys jumping on something that you don't know if it's true or not and why is it happening?

Hernanes left crying but nobody knows why. I've seen so many players who leave club in tears because they like the club and love the fans but that doesn't mean they want to stay. Hernanes might love the city, might love the fans and the players might think of him as a leader but if he wants to go to another team that is something different. Him wanting to go to Inter doesn't mean that he doesn't have to cry because he had some great moments at Lazio, the team was his first in Europe but maybe the time for a change has come.

I'm not on Lotito/Tare's side and I'm not on Hernanes' side. I'm just thinking why and what the problem could have been.

I don't think he is a leader, he might be a good friend to Onazi and the other players, he might be helpful from time to time but he is too inconsistent to be a leader.

The timing is really bad but I hope that Lotito has someone in mind.

Agree with this. People make conclusion too fast without really knowing the situation.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Super Ram on January 30, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
This video is the saddest Lazio moment since Nesta left:

HERNANES lascia la LAZIO. Le sue lacrime uscendo da Formello ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npASETLRyRI#[/url])


I just watched this now, can't bare to watch i again.
I mean this what i'm saying now, i was just crying along with hime, is swear .......
I don't care what happens next this mercato, i want it to over already.

Thats so f.cking sad..
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 30, 2014, 03:07:26 PM
Where were all of you Hernanes lovers in the past couple of years? Nobody here showed that he loves this guy that much and that he means so much to the team. He showed some tears and all of you love him... yeah, right.

Don't get me wrong. I got touched from these tears but that won't change my oppinion about him. He is a good player but quite unconsistent. He plays well when he is in a good mood like all Brazilians do.

I wish him all the best if he leaves.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 30, 2014, 03:07:56 PM
Hope that Lotito and Tare have some good player in mind, now. Bonaventura, perhaps.

Don't want to blame any of this actors: Hernanes, Tare or Lotito. We must wait and hope for the best for Lazio, not for some of that three.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: usampa on January 30, 2014, 03:08:05 PM
The usual mercato crap :)

My version is : both parties want the transfer to happen. Lotare are playing that they want him to stay, new contract blah blaah, because of the fans, Hernanes on the other hand thinks it is time to leave and get the bigger paycheck, but is sentimental in front of the fans that surround his car.
For me as I said the usual mercato crap, at the end always the money win...

Sad that we loose key player in my opinion, but when we don't have the financial strength, what do you want...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 03:08:22 PM
Really I dont see how you guys still believe that Lotito is the good guy and that he does his best. he offered a new contract to Hernanes, it was all Hernanes's choice! Yeah right! Poor little fatty, he did his best and now he will come in tears at tv saying that he loves the club so much but we had to let our best player go cause he did not accept the extension.  Do you guys really buy this? That we have waited until the negotiations with Inter were almost complete to offer a contract extension to Hernanes? That he leaves in tears because he wants to go to Inter? Man oh man. And what now? We should be happy and wait for our superstar Ederson to come back?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Morts on January 30, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
Before we conclude anything we must know the facts, unfortunately I don't believe we will ever get to know the truth.. I've been a fan for too long

If it comes up that Hernanes (or anyone else who's useful to the club has been forced out of the club due to financial gain alone) I will highly encourage to everyone to show their disrespect to the management.. I'm not encouraging to violence or anything silly but but we already know that Lazio is Lotitos version of FM - he does whatever the duck suits him...

And don't even get me started on that little pale prick of a ginger (don't take it personal unless you're Igli Tare) he may have talent in sporting talents of the future, but isn't it on time he moved on!!

Ok, rant officially over now back to OT

Hernanes to Inter would be sad, very sad indeed (however we still don't know if it's official/his choice/clubs choice etc)

Postiga as a replacement fit Floccari? Since we already know that Floccari w a n t s to play more regularly I thinks the solution with Sassulo is the least we can do to show him respect for the close-to-50 goals he has netted for us! He has always been true to the team and never complained about being second (or 3/4) in line for our attack!

Postiga is a good player very similar to Floc with a tad more pace and (IMO) better at distributing the ball, could be a winner for us (but only time will tell)

Vinícius away for rest if season, -great solution for all parties involved

Now I'm just waiting for the next two days to pass so we know what's happening in this  club

Morts
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
Again, a player who comes for training first and then for a contract-talk does not want to leave!
He did not get his contract and that's it.

Later this afternoon and tomorrow we will be fed by bullshit from Lotito and Tare, wich some people will eat up and ask for seconds ............

I will never believe one word, he would have never joined training expecting to leave, that's not human.
And Hernanes is clearly very human!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 03:10:42 PM
Hope that Lotito and Tare have some good player in mind, now. Bonaventura, perhaps.

Don't want to blame any of this actors: Hernanes, Tare or Lotito. We must wait and hope for the best for Lazio, not for some of that three.

A good player? But we've signed Postiga! Do you really think that we will buy somebody in one day? Mauri is almost back and Ederson migh re-enter for the last games! Hilarious! Bonaventura? Yeah right!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 03:11:37 PM
That video is really heartbreaking.

If I was an Inter fan I would be wondering why the hell we were trying to sign a player who doesn't want to leave.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ForzaLazio on January 30, 2014, 03:13:49 PM
This video is the saddest Lazio moment since Nesta left:

HERNANES lascia la LAZIO. Le sue lacrime uscendo da Formello ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npASETLRyRI#[/url])


Oh **** i feel realy sad after seeing that video...  :wuzz: LOTITO VATENE
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 03:16:10 PM
A good player? But we've signed Postiga! Do you really think that we will buy somebody in one day? Mauri is almost back and Ederson migh re-enter for the last games! Hilarious! Bonaventura? Yeah right!

Exactly right, we are dealing with Lotare here, wake up guys!
Now with Hernanes gone and no replacement, i'm certain 6th place or a good EL run is already history.
No Ederson (wich doesn't matter really), Mauri has no matchrythm and Anderson and Keita are youthplayers for christ sake.  Candreva won't save the offensive MF on his owns?
We are done, simple as that ......

Inter will take the last EL spot, signed d'ambrosio today and very close to Hernanes and Cannavaro, they are set.
And lot's of other serie A teams have signed reinforcements today, no Lazio dough ;.....  :bravo:
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 03:16:32 PM
I'm just wondering when was the last time I've seen a player crying for these colors...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
Imagine being Reja right now. First he gets talked into taking over this circus of a club that Petkovic left in a horrible state, then his best player is leaving and we get no replacement.

At least with Hernanes gone maybe people will wake up and stop talking about top 6..which is impossible with this team now. One thing is the quality aspect of Hernanes leaving, but think of the drop in morale in the club and team.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 03:26:18 PM
The Ciani transfer to Norwich is off because Lotito has realised he may not have time to find a replacement.

Well what the fu ck did that retard expect..2nd last day of the mercato.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Roman_Eagle on January 30, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
I'm reading the past few pages and it makes me wonder are some of you that dumb? seriously !?

hernanes is crying therefore he doesn't want to leave? bullshit!

why don't you comment the start of the clip where he is all smiling and sh1t?

IT IS a normal reaction of a player that spend the past 4 season or something with one club to cry when he is leaving. he was a god here. it doesn't mean he doesn't want the inter move.

for me what personally happened is lotito presented his demanding to inter. inter didn't want to meet them, so hernanes was about to stay. today thohir woke up at the other side of the bed, deciding to meet lotito's demands and gave lotare a call, which happened to be in the middle of our training. tare called hernanes and told him inter are ready to pay for him and he can leave Lazio (as said in the press he already said yes to the personal conditions inter have offered him).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 03:30:01 PM
I think it's pretty obvious and has been that any Hernanes sale will fund a last ditch attempt to sign Quagliarella, but with Vucinic nearing the exit, we're running out of time.

Secondly, I also think that if we take a step back, we'll realise that Hernanes probably does want to go. He's been evading contract talks for 18 months, and a higher salary and probably more success awaits at Inter.

I very rarely cry, but one of the few times I have was after my first year at college when a few people I've only known for about three months we're departing and I was travelling back home for Christmas. I wanted to go home for Christmas, but it was difficult saying goodbye to these people who I have only known for three months of my life. Hernanes has know these folks for three years, so it's a completely natural reaction.

I would rather cherish it than point fingers. So many players have left this club and have not given a hoot and so many players will continue to do so. Time to embrace Hernanes for having a heart.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
The Ciani transfer to Norwich is off because Lotito has realised he may not have time to find a replacement.

Well what the fu ck did that retard expect..2nd last day of the mercato.

i know, it's just hilarious
everytime those same mistakes, i really think there's something missing in his head (possibly the other half of his brain) - wich is in Tare's head ....
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: martinese on January 30, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
Havent you guys seen emotional people? If you can give me a material which shows that Hernanes is desperate to stay at Lazio and somebody kicks him away from the team I'll believe it. People want to change, people want to do something new... but when the time comes to make such big changes you feel bad and might cry if you are an emotional person. People cry when they move away from their home to a new one, Hernanes might be crying for the same reason not because someone is kicking him out of the club. Nobody can forse him out. He has a contract for another 1.5 years and can stay in the club and be freezed if Lotito really wanted to sell him even though the player doesn't want to.

I'm not on either side here. I like Hernanes, I don't like Lotito and Tare but I'm looking at the things as a human being and I judge these reactions as one. You cry when you leave a place where you've been for a long time but you know it's time to move on and try something new.

Why should be always look from the bad side? Let's try and be a bit more positive. Lotito is Lazio's president, Tare is the DS, Postiga is the new signing... it is what it is.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 30, 2014, 03:43:43 PM
Waiting on the last day of mercato to sell our most valuable to a direct opponent without replacement is really great job by Lotare! I don't know why you complain, this is the correct way to handle the mercato. Now we will see the dynamic Ledesma-Biglia-Onazi midfield with good driblings, great movement and a lá Veron assists to a natural portugese goalscorer Postiga. Bravo Lotare :bravo:
The only thing I have against Lotare is that he hasn't yet sold Marchetti to Milan for 5 milion and half of some random youth primavera Milan player contract.




Lotare, picka vam materina!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Emko on January 30, 2014, 03:45:51 PM
So Lotito offered 2,5 per year, Inter - 3,3. Hernanes chose Inter. That's it.

I think that Hernanes is making a big mistake just before the World cup (and his dream to play for Brazil in the WC).
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 03:46:16 PM
Time to start reading between the lines.

- Ciani loan deal on hold, apparently, until Lazio bring in a replacement. The replacement Reja keeps talking about is Cannavaro. Mazzarri has made it clear that they are in for him, but think it is difficult. Can we beat Inter in that race? Doubt it. Can we find someone else?

- Hernanes agreement to be found. Vucinic has turned down Valencia and Arsenal as he wants to stay, meanwhile Juventus want Osvaldo but need to sell someone. That puts Quagliarella on the market with hours to go and we may be just about to come into some $$$$$.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cnon on January 30, 2014, 03:46:32 PM
Waiting on the last day of mercato to sell our most valuable to a direct opponent without replacement is really great job by Lotare! I don't know why you complain, this is the correct way to handle the mercato. Now we will see the dynamic Ledesma-Biglia-Onazi midfield with good driblings, great movement and a lá Veron assists to a natural portugese goalscorer Postiga. Bravo Lotare :bravo:
The only thing I have against Lotare is that he hasn't yet sold Marchetti to Milan for 5 milion and half of some random youth primavera Milan player contract.




Lotare, picka vam materina!

Don't worry mate. I'm sure we have already guaranteed Milan that they will get Marchetti in summer mercato. But the price might be a bit higher than that.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Evesto on January 30, 2014, 03:49:19 PM
My god, some fans are actually speculating on getting Bonaventura or Kone as a replacement for Hernanes today or tomorrow.

Snap out of it please, we are dealing with Lotare here, if they sign someone at the ATA hotel tomorrow on the deadline it will be an useless talentless benchwarmer, possibly 33 or 34y old!
Or a youthtalent for the primavera, if they don't go to Chelsea ???
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
Great, so we sell our most valuable asset and big star and we are about to invest most of that money in a 30 year old bench player...GREAT NEWS.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 03:53:29 PM
So Lotito offered 2,5 per year, Inter - 3,3. Hernanes chose Inter. That's it.

I think that Hernanes is making a big mistake just before the World cup (and his dream to play for Brazil in the WC).

Nope.

We offered 2.2 + bonus per year, Inter offered 2.5 (first year) UP TO 3.3 (last year, bonus included).
The difference is not that much.
But I see that Lotito's strategy starts working. People start saying that it was just a business decision for Hernanes.
Let me ask you this: suppose you want to quit your job from tomorrow, you already know you will get more money and you will move to a better company. What do you do today? Do you work as if nothing happen and AT THE END of the day talk to your manager and leave in tears or will you come in, say bye to all ur colleagues and leave immediately?

Reports say we are close to sell him for 15 mil cash, nothing more. No Mbaye. Quite a difference from yesterday when 17 mil would buy Hernanes's left shoe or when 15 + Mbaye was not enough.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 03:58:07 PM
What is Quags price..10-12 mill euros?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Prati on January 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
I don't care nowadays anymore about mercato's because I stopped following them closely about 1,5 - 2 years ago. But this makes me so sad that it's better to say it once again: Lotito pezzo di merda! If miracles don't happen this squad is remarkably weaker than before mercato which is a achievement in itself. bravo, bravo...

and those who analyse our and Inter's wage-offers should remember that it's all only rumours and we have no real knowledge how this all went. For me tears of Hernanes tell's that the whole story is not out there.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
I expect that in summer Candreva will leave (I dont see Lotito paying 10 mil to Udinese for half), Marchetti is obviously not happy (whatever Reja says) and it wont be long till Keita will start getting offers. but dont worry, Ederson will be back and Djordjevic will arrive!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 30, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
Reports say we are close to sell him for 15 mil cash, nothing more. No Mbaye. Quite a difference from yesterday when 17 mil would buy Hernanes's left shoe or when 15 + Mbaye was not enough.

15 milion is nothing. People claims Lotito is a great bussinesman, but you just have to look across the Tiber to find great bussines, when the others sold fuking Bradley for 8 milion. To a god damn Canadian football club! Hate to say that. 

Looking forward to Reja press conferance, two days ago he guarantee that Hernanes wouldn't be sold. Who is a puppet now?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 04:04:23 PM
Martorelli, ag. Bonaventura: "Nessun contatto con la Lazio" - to clarify that!

And our main clown: "Hernanes? Non mi risulta che sia stato venduto. Non so nulla: parliamo di chiacchiere." Vafancullo, you fat pig! Funny that the imbecile gave an interview for "FcInternews.it"...just join one session on our radio show, u jerk!
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 30, 2014, 04:05:45 PM
Reports say we are close to sell him for 15 mil cash, nothing more. No Mbaye. Quite a difference from yesterday when 17 mil would buy Hernanes's left shoe or when 15 + Mbaye was not enough.

15 milion is nothing. People claims Lotito is a great bussinesman, but you just have to look across the Tiber to find great bussines, when the others sold fuking Bradley for 8 milion. To a god damn Canadian football club! Hate to say that. 

Looking forward to Reja press conferance, two days ago he guarantee that Hernanes wouldn't be sold. Who is a puppet now?
shhhhhh you dont' wanna get ass f.ucked, it's all lotare's fault reja is merely the victim ok?
I'd resign if i were reja, fukkin lotare
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Amir on January 30, 2014, 04:07:47 PM
Time to start reading between the lines.

- Ciani loan deal on hold, apparently, until Lazio bring in a replacement. The replacement Reja keeps talking about is Cannavaro...


I think this deal is off because Norwich officially signed Yobo from Fenerbahce (central defnder).

I doubt they will sign another one. So I think Ciani is staying with us 99% - at leas as far as Norwchich is concenred.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: drazvan on January 30, 2014, 04:08:18 PM
Wondering if the fatass will get scared the same way Tohir got scared by the inter supporters and did not sell Guarin...
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 30, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
Hernanes won't go, relax.

Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 04:18:43 PM
Hernanes won't go, relax.

?
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 30, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
If Hernanes leaves and we only get Postiga I may actually kill myself...

No but seriously, why must it be such a painful experience being a Laziale. I am so damn fed up with all these disappointments. I can deal with on the pitch disappointments, but the fact this fat prick Lotito has decieved us so many times with empty promises, I've had enough basically.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: Cathal on January 30, 2014, 04:32:19 PM
Time to start reading between the lines.

- Ciani loan deal on hold, apparently, until Lazio bring in a replacement. The replacement Reja keeps talking about is Cannavaro...


I think this deal is off because Norwich officially signed Yobo from Fenerbahce (central defnder).

I doubt they will sign another one. So I think Ciani is staying with us 99% - at leas as far as Norwchich is concenred.

It could well be, Norwich don't like to talk about targets but they confirmed they are speaking to Yobo on their website.
Title: Re: Transfers and Rumors 2014 - part I
Post by: fausto on January 30, 2014, 04:32:36 PM
If Hernanes leaves and we only get Postiga I may actually kill myself...

No but seriously, why must it be such a painful experience being a Laziale. I am so damn fed up with all these disappointments. I can d