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Title: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on July 21, 2017, 02:30:42 PM
Let`s proceed here please.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on July 21, 2017, 02:32:17 PM
Only 1 month to go...  :laziostend:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on July 21, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
Was wondering about Fiorentina, their team is crippled so far.

I wonder if they will go on a shopping spree once they get the money from the sale of Bernardeschi.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: dimascio on July 21, 2017, 03:33:37 PM
Schedule is released today I think.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on July 21, 2017, 03:44:17 PM
The lack of a schedule is an absolute farce.

I'll be in Italy for the first round and would love to know where we are playing that week. Not that it can really alter my travel plans but it should be planned more than a month out from the start of the season.

The A-League isn't exactly well run but its schedule was released about a month ago and the season doesn't begin until October. Surely no major European league cuts it this fine.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 21, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
The lack of a schedule is an absolute farce.

I'll be in Italy for the first round and would love to know where we are playing that week. Not that it can really alter my travel plans but it should be planned more than a month out from the start of the season.

It's definitely an inconvenience for foreigners, no doubt. At the very least, they could provide info on who is playing at home in advance. If they know the dates - which they do - not exactly difficult.

Schedule isn't until 26 July, to make matters worse.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on July 21, 2017, 03:51:54 PM
The lack of a schedule is an absolute farce.

I'll be in Italy for the first round and would love to know where we are playing that week. Not that it can really alter my travel plans but it should be planned more than a month out from the start of the season.

It's definitely an inconvenience for foreigners, no doubt. At the very least, they could provide info on who is playing at home in advance. If they know the dates - which they do - not exactly difficult.

Schedule isn't until 26 July, to make matters worse.

It would be an inconvenience for Italians too I'd imagine, if they don't live in the city (maybe even if they do), as August is when the country goes on holiday and perhaps people would like to know whether to stay in Rome/Napoli/Milan/Genova/etc for that weekend or whether to go to a resort in Tropea.

If we get a home game or a reasonably close away game, such as in Napoli or Benevento I'll probably head along. It'd be nice not to have to wait another five days to find out whether I've got a game to look forward too though.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 21, 2017, 03:55:32 PM
It would be an inconvenience for Italians too I'd imagine, if they don't live in the city (maybe even if they do), as August is when the country goes on holiday and perhaps people would like to know whether to stay in Rome/Napoli/Milan/Genova/etc for that weekend or whether to go to a resort in Tropea.

Forgive me if I think the resort in Tropea is foremost in the minds  :razz:

But in terms of scheduling with regard to the Italians, the fact dates and times are up for discussion until relatively close to kick-off is probably more of a concern. And that's also an inconvenience for foreigners, albeit only if you've picked out a certain game.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on July 21, 2017, 03:56:38 PM
I know that clubs that share stadiums rotates first round home tie every season. This season should be our start at Olimpico.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on July 21, 2017, 04:13:56 PM
It would be an inconvenience for Italians too I'd imagine, if they don't live in the city (maybe even if they do), as August is when the country goes on holiday and perhaps people would like to know whether to stay in Rome/Napoli/Milan/Genova/etc for that weekend or whether to go to a resort in Tropea.

Forgive me if I think the resort in Tropea is foremost in the minds  :razz:

But in terms of scheduling with regard to the Italians, the fact dates and times are up for discussion until relatively close to kick-off is probably more of a concern. And that's also an inconvenience for foreigners, albeit only if you've picked out a certain game.

If they don't think it has an effect on the league's overall marketability and therefore international competitiveness, they're having a laugh.

I know that clubs that share stadiums rotates first round home tie every season. This season should be our start at Olimpico.

This is what I'm banking on but I don't want to pre-empt what the Italians may decide. :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on July 22, 2017, 01:27:10 PM
Pre season matches ar hardly anything to focus too much on but Milan whopping a full strenght Bayern with 4-0 is quite impressing.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 22, 2017, 01:49:15 PM
Pre season matches ar hardly anything to focus too much on but Milan whopping a full strenght Bayern with 4-0 is quite impressing.

Milan play their first competitive game on Thursday - they need to be beating Bayern at this stage in pre-season.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: stefano_40 on July 22, 2017, 01:58:17 PM
Pre season matches ar hardly anything to focus too much on but Milan whopping a full strenght Bayern with 4-0 is quite impressing.

Milan play their first competitive game on Thursday - they need to be beating Bayern at this stage in pre-season.

Bayern lost to Arsenal too. Seeing as they regularly show up and hockey Arsenal year after year, they must be somewhat out of sorts  :wow:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on July 22, 2017, 03:18:48 PM
But rich Inda with mighty emperor Zig Zag still have Miranda, D'Ambrosio, Candreva and Ansaldi as unmovable starters?  :wow:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on July 22, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
But rich Inda with mighty emperor Zig Zag still have Miranda, D'Ambrosio, Candreva and Ansaldi as unmovable starters?  :wow:

 :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: dinhochester on July 22, 2017, 05:25:53 PM
Biglia starts in second half in the match in case anyone miss to watch our ex captain play.
From what I see, he plays same role to when he was at Lazio.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: rich on July 23, 2017, 05:34:56 PM
When does the fixtures get announced
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on July 23, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
26th
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: cap0 on July 24, 2017, 01:08:32 PM
Serie A is the only major league in europe that releases the schedule that late.
Premiere League for example gets released almost immediately after finishing the previous season.

Maybe italians tryin´ to prevent betting fraud or something at least in serie a  that way ...  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on July 24, 2017, 11:34:53 PM
 Btw, after the draw at Genoa.....did is still our turn to took 6 points this season against them  :whistle:
 6 against Crotone,probably 6 vs Benveneto(whatever)....
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: cap0 on July 26, 2017, 08:50:13 AM
When will the fixtures get announced today?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on July 26, 2017, 09:10:19 AM
When will the fixtures get announced today?

7PM
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 26, 2017, 07:28:04 PM
I had a gut feeling we'd get SPAL week one. I think, because Caput Mundi said he was in Italy for the first round and Crni Đorđe said it was likely to be a home tie and SPAL is the least interesting game you could have for week one. And low and behold...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on July 26, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
That's ok, it will be nice to open the season with a thumping win at home.
Meelan in third round
Derby in round 13 hehe
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on July 26, 2017, 08:14:21 PM
Now is already custom to play at San Siro during traditional foggy and misty Milan winter night.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on July 26, 2017, 08:17:58 PM
Yep, might treat myself to a springtime trip to Rome, it's been a while since the last derby
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on July 26, 2017, 08:35:05 PM
Relatively balanced schedule, but it's pointless to discuss impact of it without EL schedule on board - for example, where would we play after Juventus away - at Olimpico or Russia, because quickly after it two away streak in different parts of Italy (one in midweek).

But overall, we have five home matches after EL and only one away (immediately at beginning), which is good.

Also means merdeke will have it away during same rounds.  :whistle:

Quote
1^ Giornata: LAZIO-Spal (20/08/2017 - 06/01/2018)

2^ Giornata: Chievo Verona-LAZIO (27/08/2017 - 21/01/2018)

3^ Giornata: LAZIO-Milan (10/09/2017 - 28/01/2018)

4^ Giornata: Genoa-LAZIO (17/09/2017 - 04/02/2018)

5^ Giornata: LAZIO-Napoli (20/09/2017 - 11/02/2018)

6^ Giornata: Hellas Verona-LAZIO (24/09/2017 - 18/02/2018)

7^ Giornata: LAZIO-Sassuolo (01/10/2017 - 25/02/2018)

8^ Giornata: Juventus-LAZIO (15/10/2017 - 04/03/2018)

9^ Giornata: LAZIO-Cagliari (22/10/2017 - 11/03/2018)

10^ Giornata: Bologna-LAZIO (25/10/2017 - 18/03/2018)

11^ Giornata: Benevento-LAZIO (29/10/2017 - 31/03/2018)

12^ Giornata: LAZIO-Udinese (05/11/2017 - 08/04/2018)

13^ Giornata: Roma-LAZIO (19/11/2017 - 15/04/2018)

14^ Giornata: LAZIO-Fiorentina (26/11/2017 - 18/04/2018)

15^ Giornata: Sampdoria-LAZIO (03/12/2017 - 22/04/2018)

16^ Giornata: LAZIO-Torino (10/12/2017 - 29/04/2018)

17^ Giornata: Atalanta-LAZIO (17/12/2017 - 06/05/2018)

18^ Giornata: LAZIO-Crotone (23/12/2017 - 13/05/2018)

19^ Giornata: Inter-LAZIO (30/12/2017 - 20/05/2018)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on July 26, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
Relatively balanced schedule, but it's pointless to discuss impact of it without EL schedule on board - for example, where would we play after Juventus away - at Olimpico or Russia, because quickly after it two away streak in different parts of Italy (one in midweek).

But overall, we have five home matches after EL and only one away (immediately at beginning), which is good.

Also means merdeke will have it away during same rounds.  :whistle:

Quote
1^ Giornata: LAZIO-Spal (20/08/2017 - 06/01/2018)

2^ Giornata: Chievo Verona-LAZIO (27/08/2017 - 21/01/2018)

3^ Giornata: LAZIO-Milan (10/09/2017 - 28/01/2018)

4^ Giornata: Genoa-LAZIO (17/09/2017 - 04/02/2018)

5^ Giornata: LAZIO-Napoli (20/09/2017 - 11/02/2018)

6^ Giornata: Hellas Verona-LAZIO (24/09/2017 - 18/02/2018)

7^ Giornata: LAZIO-Sassuolo (01/10/2017 - 25/02/2018)

8^ Giornata: Juventus-LAZIO (15/10/2017 - 04/03/2018)

9^ Giornata: LAZIO-Cagliari (22/10/2017 - 11/03/2018)

10^ Giornata: Bologna-LAZIO (25/10/2017 - 18/03/2018)

11^ Giornata: Benevento-LAZIO (29/10/2017 - 31/03/2018)

12^ Giornata: LAZIO-Udinese (05/11/2017 - 08/04/2018)

13^ Giornata: Roma-LAZIO (19/11/2017 - 15/04/2018)

14^ Giornata: LAZIO-Fiorentina (26/11/2017 - 18/04/2018)

15^ Giornata: Sampdoria-LAZIO (03/12/2017 - 22/04/2018)

16^ Giornata: LAZIO-Torino (10/12/2017 - 29/04/2018)

17^ Giornata: Atalanta-LAZIO (17/12/2017 - 06/05/2018)

18^ Giornata: LAZIO-Crotone (23/12/2017 - 13/05/2018)

19^ Giornata: Inter-LAZIO (30/12/2017 - 20/05/2018)

Watch them magically change the schedule haha
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on July 26, 2017, 09:16:21 PM
Anyone else smell a repeat of 5 Maggio 2002?  :wow:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on July 26, 2017, 11:53:16 PM
I like the schedule, we have a pretty good start and I can easily see us unbeaten when facing rube. Hell, might even have full points after 7 rounds  :rolley: SCUDETTO!  :sciarpa05:

Can already see them calling for Eusebio's head on 28th and fired on September 11th  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: inhocsignovinces on July 27, 2017, 04:18:55 AM
i'll be trying to make it to the first derby, will i see any of you gentlemen there?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue-white on July 27, 2017, 06:53:36 AM
Anyone else smell a repeat of 5 Maggio 2002?  :wow:
:vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on July 29, 2017, 01:50:28 AM
Fassone said yesterday that Elliott borrowed them 180 mln and that Milan's worth is 750 mln. Moreover, he explained that they borrowed such sum because it is how you conduct such deals nowadays. All of it was a reply to Pallotta's comments about how Milan spend so much and that their management must be crazy.
Looks like this interesting piece of business has not gone unnoticed  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on July 29, 2017, 11:56:04 AM
Fassone said yesterday that Elliott borrowed them 180 mln and that Milan's worth is 750 mln. Moreover, he explained that they borrowed such sum because it is how you conduct such deals nowadays. All of it was a reply to Pallotta's comments about how Milan spend so much and that their management must be crazy.
Looks like this interesting piece of business has not gone unnoticed  :whistle:

It's actually interesting that someone like Palloca noted this.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 29, 2017, 12:03:27 PM
The Milan situation is bizarre.

The Chinese got a loan of a company that basically said 'we'll give you the money, but if you can't pay us back in a year or two with interest, the club is ours and we'll sell everything we can for money' and the Chinese said ok.

And since then, the Chinese have spent every penny Milan have and have tried to borrow money wherever they can and now people are saying 'no, not getting our money, because we don't think you're paying us back'.

So how on earth do they stay in business? It looks like the new investors are trying to lose all their money and go bankrupt and what I'm trying to work out is why anyone would do that...

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on July 29, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
The Milan situation is bizarre.

The Chinese got a loan of a company that basically said 'we'll give you the money, but if you can't pay us back in a year or two with interest, the club is ours and we'll sell everything we can for money' and the Chinese said ok.

And since then, the Chinese have spent every penny Milan have and have tried to borrow money wherever they can and now people are saying 'no, not getting our money, because we don't think you're paying us back'.

So how on earth do they stay in business? It looks like the new investors are trying to lose all their money and go bankrupt and what I'm trying to work out is why anyone would do that...

Yeah who knows. My understanding about economy is not great but it seems difficult with, if not against, Chinese law to move money out from the country to invest abroad. Maybe the investor/s risk getting their money seized or just to avoid tax from the goverment, now have a dodgy deal with Elliot's and voila - a bunch of their money end up in the US.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 29, 2017, 12:46:37 PM
Maybe the investor/s risk getting their money seized or just to avoid tax from the goverment, now have a dodgy deal with Elliot's and voila - a bunch of their money end up in the US.

As it stands, Elliott got deal of the century because Milan will go bankrupt at this rate and Elliott will take over and strip their assets and Milan's assets got a whole lot more valuable over the summer considering who they bought. Also, Berlusconi might be gone but he has his people on the Milan board, so he's not completely out of the loop.

Elliott's involvement makes sense - it's what motivates the Chinese and Berlusconi that no one seems to understand.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on July 29, 2017, 01:46:20 PM
okay, who is this elliiot we talkin bout?  :what:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 29, 2017, 02:01:32 PM
This is the best way to explain the AC Milan situation.

(http://en.calcioefinanza.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Milan-catena-di-controllo-1.jpg)

On the left hand side, you'll see all the companies set up by the 'Chinese investors' to secure ownership of AC Milan. On the right, you'll see who gave them the money.

Blue Skye is the London-based company Pallotta was referring to. They gave money to Elliott Management Corporation to loan to the Chinese investors. At some point, the Chinese investors have to repay this loan or Milan goes bankrupt.

If they go bankrupt, 'Project Redblack' owns AC Milan, and that will effectively be Elliott. If the Chinese can pay them back, Elliott make a profit through interest on the loan. If the Chinese can't pay them back, Elliott have basically acquired Milan for about 300 million and can then look at how to make a profit on that 300 million - they could sell the whole club or break the club apart until AC Milan is dead and gone.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on July 29, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
This is the best way to explain the AC Milan situation.

([url]http://en.calcioefinanza.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Milan-catena-di-controllo-1.jpg[/url])

On the left hand side, you'll see all the companies set up by the 'Chinese investors' to secure ownership of AC Milan. On the right, you'll see who gave them the money.

Blue Skye is the London-based company Pallotta was referring to. They gave money to Elliott Management Corporation to loan to the Chinese investors. At some point, the Chinese investors have to repay this loan or Milan goes bankrupt.

If they go bankrupt, 'Project Redblack' owns AC Milan, and that will effectively be Elliott. If the Chinese can pay them back, Elliott make a profit through interest on the loan. If the Chinese can't pay them back, Elliott have basically acquired Milan for about 300 million and can then look at how to make a profit on that 300 million - they could sell the whole club or break the club apart until AC Milan is dead and gone.


It's organised crime 101. You give someone a loan knowing you can't lose. If they pay you back, great, you've earned your interest. If they don't and you have any assets they run up massive debts using those assets and walk away leaving it to be liquidated.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on July 29, 2017, 07:49:57 PM
:what: :what: :what: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Geoffrey Kondogbia incredible 40-yard own goal - Chelsea vs Inter!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amHQ0f94fZE#)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on July 30, 2017, 07:08:51 PM
:what: :what: :what: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Geoffrey Kondogbia incredible 40-yard own goal - Chelsea vs Inter!!! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amHQ0f94fZE#[/url])


That's 1mil for every yard on that goal... :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on July 31, 2017, 04:32:13 AM
:what: :what: :what: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Geoffrey Kondogbia incredible 40-yard own goal - Chelsea vs Inter!!! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amHQ0f94fZE#[/url])


That's 1mil for every yard on that goal... :supsmile:


fa10 need to learn from him how to score a screamer  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: valdanito on July 31, 2017, 05:09:16 PM
What on earth are fiorentina thinking?

They have completely dismantled their team.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 31, 2017, 05:14:15 PM
What on earth are fiorentina thinking?

They have completely dismantled their team.

Yeah, but they've also spent quite a lot of money, although no one notices that when you sell your best players at the same time.

Also, the offers they've accepted are hard to turn down. 24 million for Vecino? Who could turn that down...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Miro on July 31, 2017, 05:29:11 PM
Della Valle brothers are to blame, they are running that team into the ground. They will be lucky to avoid Serie B this season if they continue like that. Badelj and Kalinic are rumoured next to depart.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: dimascio on July 31, 2017, 05:55:16 PM
Della Valle brothers are to blame, they are running that team into the ground. They will be lucky to avoid Serie B this season if they continue like that. Badelj and Kalinic are rumoured next to depart.

You could say that but you could also look at it as if they are removing the cancers from the team and building around Tomovic and Astori going forward.  Starting fresh isn't always a bad thing.  New coach new players new mentality to form. 

If anything they are moving quicker than us in the selling department and need to get rid of Kalinic if his heart is not in it.  It's not like they haven't bought anyone yet either. 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 31, 2017, 06:05:43 PM
Della Valle brothers are to blame, they are running that team into the ground. They will be lucky to avoid Serie B this season if they continue like that. Badelj and Kalinic are rumoured next to depart.

You could say that but you could also look at it as if they are removing the cancers from the team and building around Tomovic and Astori going forward.  Starting fresh isn't always a bad thing.  New coach new players new mentality to form. 

If anything they are moving quicker than us in the selling department and need to get rid of Kalinic if his heart is not in it.  It's not like they haven't bought anyone yet either.

If they are serious about selling the club, then they need to make decisions in the interest of business and not football.

The club that turns down 45 million for Kalinic or 40 million for Bernardeschi or 24 million for Vecino isn't taking care of business.

Not saying that's what they are doing - I'm not clued up on their situation per se - but I'd be taking those offers in their shoes. A mid-table side, which is what they are at the moment, can't be saying no to those bids.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on July 31, 2017, 06:51:23 PM
Vecino has a 24m release clause so not much to do. But who have they bought? Didnt follow Viola closely.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on July 31, 2017, 07:00:39 PM
But who have they bought?

First of all, they owe a lot for players they took on loan last season with buyout clauses attached. Not sure how much this comes to in total, but I reckon it's around 40 million.

Then they spent 25 million on Vitor Hugo, Bruno Gaspar, Jordan Veretout and Nikola Milenkovic. 

Then there's other prospects they are forking out for that ain't exactly free.

Yes, they are dismantling their team, but they are spending a fortune this summer, mostly on players they brought in last season that didn't deliver.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on July 31, 2017, 09:42:12 PM
Della Valle brothers put Fiorentina on sale and said they will no longer invest, they got tired of football. By selling all their assets they wants some money back that they invested throught years in Florenze.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on August 01, 2017, 11:12:55 AM
Della Valle brothers put Fiorentina on sale and said they will no longer invest, they got tired of football. By selling all their assets they wants some money back that they invested throught years in Florenze.

Again it proves that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere. I remember when the Delle Valle brothers took over and they started throwing cash around left, right and centre. Most people, myself included, were thinking why can't Lazio have a president like them.

Don't think they achieved anything more than a Coppa Italia final unless I am mistaken?  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 01, 2017, 04:09:36 PM
Della Valle brothers put Fiorentina on sale and said they will no longer invest, they got tired of football. By selling all their assets they wants some money back that they invested throught years in Florenze.

Again it proves that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere. I remember when the Delle Valle brothers took over and they started throwing cash around left, right and centre. Most people, myself included, were thinking why can't Lazio have a president like them.

Don't think they achieved anything more than a Coppa Italia final unless I am mistaken?  :razz:

Still there were points in the past years when people on the forum were full of praise for Fiorentina and calling their mercato stellar..All in all, not much results. Shows that you need to be smart about the investments.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on August 04, 2017, 08:01:16 PM
Looks like Tessera del tifoso will be abandoned soon, which should be great for us fans traveling from abroad
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 07, 2017, 11:06:43 PM
So Udinese signed Bram Nuytinck.  I can't wait to see our attackers go at him, he's the worst man-marker ever to have played for Anderlecht.  And a lovely personality as well, when he screws up it's always someone else's fault.  Very badly advised signing from Udinese, but good for us.   :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on August 10, 2017, 01:20:33 AM
 I hope someone will tell Ciro about this. Maybe in first 15 min he should stay focused in the box more.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Emko on August 11, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
Guess what - Biglia is our for a month  :beer:

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on August 12, 2017, 07:21:12 AM
Guess what - Biglia is our for a month  :beer:

And they said that Lucas Leiva is injury prone...

Don't jinx it man.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 16, 2017, 05:05:25 PM
Perisic gonna rob Inda with renewal.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 16, 2017, 05:24:39 PM
Perisic gonna rob Inda with renewal.

And maybe get Mangala  :happy: .... Ciro would have a fieldday against him.   :twinkle:

Getting Cancelo and losing Kondogbia would be a big upgrade however, hope this doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 18, 2017, 05:41:44 PM
Perisic gonna rob Inda with renewal.

And maybe get Mangala  :happy: .... Ciro would have a fieldday against him.   :twinkle:

Getting Cancelo and losing Kondogbia would be a big upgrade however, hope this doesn't happen.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170818/4b6a7b638d5ec27e239e786fdf87fc5d.jpg)

Not to forget  :wow:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on August 18, 2017, 09:32:55 PM
Spaletti brought half of merda with him
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on August 18, 2017, 10:36:23 PM
Spaletti brought half of merda with him

Including Candreva?  :supsmile: better not open that can again...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on August 19, 2017, 11:21:40 AM
Serie A returns tonight!   :vcool:

For those that understand Italian, this is hilarious:
http://www.unfairplay.it/2017/08/18/calciomercato-2017-oggi-giocherebbero-cosi/ (http://www.unfairplay.it/2017/08/18/calciomercato-2017-oggi-giocherebbero-cosi/)

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on August 19, 2017, 02:13:19 PM
Hehehe died at Sassuolo
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 19, 2017, 02:29:59 PM
Hehehe died at Sassuolo

Good to see I'm not only one to see Berardi as bidone d'oro.  :wow:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on August 19, 2017, 02:47:48 PM
'Rejected all offers for Keita because it's much more difficult to find a replacement with the same name....'

 :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 19, 2017, 07:05:23 PM
Replay of Dybala's hand before goal destroyed?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 19, 2017, 07:15:43 PM
Replay of Dybala's hand before goal destroyed?  :whistle:

Of course, god forbid any chance of a loss for their season start ...  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioKosovo on August 20, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
This is thing is becoming tragic... I just saw highlights of Juve-Cagliari game.....Rubentus is above all rules in Italy.....stronger than VAR technology....you can have one just referee decision but not two......you can't just not hate this shitty team
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 21, 2017, 07:31:13 PM
Marchisio also having issues with Allegri?
Rumours that he would like to join Bonucci again .....    :rolley:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on August 21, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
Marchisio also having issues with Allegri?
Rumours that he would like to join Bonucci again .....    :rolley:

Swap with Keita please.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on August 22, 2017, 03:46:29 AM
Marchisio also having issues with Allegri?
Rumours that he would like to join Bonucci again .....    :rolley:

Swap with Keita please.

is it even possible?, i mean whatabout his salary?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on August 22, 2017, 10:53:19 AM
Marchisio also having issues with Allegri?
Rumours that he would like to join Bonucci again .....    :rolley:

Swap with Keita please.

is it even possible?, i mean whatabout his salary?

I wouldn't say it's possible, I was just dreaming.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 22, 2017, 05:02:43 PM
Kalinic to Milan for 5mill now + 20mill afterwords. 

Great deal by Fiorentina (and more crazy investing for Milan  :twinkle:), my compliments.  Altough they are paying a lot for a more or less 'unproven' Simeone.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on August 25, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Quote
Erick Thohir made a gaffe when asked about why he bought Inter in 2013. “I’ve been a fan since they bought the Dutch trio…”

Thohir wrongly referred to Frank Rijkaard, Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten, all of whom joined Milan in the 1980s, when Inter had actually signed the German trio of Lothar Matthaus, Andreas Brehme and Jurgen Klinsmann.

“Buying a football club isn’t just a matter of business, you have to love that team,” the club’s President told Metronews in his native Indonesia.

“I’ve been an Inter fan since they bought the Dutch trio and then Ronaldo’s arrival.

“But I want to thank President Moratti for giving me the opportunity to become the club’s first foreign President.”

[url]http://www.football-italia.net/108772/thohir-makes-inter-gaffe[/url] ([url]http://www.football-italia.net/108772/thohir-makes-inter-gaffe[/url])


Inter fans must be really proud now!  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: moody on August 26, 2017, 05:33:37 AM
Quote
Erick Thohir made a gaffe when asked about why he bought Inter in 2013. “I’ve been a fan since they bought the Dutch trio…”

Thohir wrongly referred to Frank Rijkaard, Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten, all of whom joined Milan in the 1980s, when Inter had actually signed the German trio of Lothar Matthaus, Andreas Brehme and Jurgen Klinsmann.

“Buying a football club isn’t just a matter of business, you have to love that team,” the club’s President told Metronews in his native Indonesia.

“I’ve been an Inter fan since they bought the Dutch trio and then Ronaldo’s arrival.

“But I want to thank President Moratti for giving me the opportunity to become the club’s first foreign President.”

[url]http://www.football-italia.net/108772/thohir-makes-inter-gaffe[/url] ([url]http://www.football-italia.net/108772/thohir-makes-inter-gaffe[/url])


Inter fans must be really proud now!  :razz:


He wanted to make a point that he loves inter, but at the same time he proves he totally doesn't
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: birulangit on August 26, 2017, 07:02:10 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSi0Khhit-R3yXfi4J5mEXDooDLkMCj5bK3MdBQEuAGdvfaltotA)

thats a joke in indonesia right now
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on August 26, 2017, 11:16:48 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSi0Khhit-R3yXfi4J5mEXDooDLkMCj5bK3MdBQEuAGdvfaltotA)


hahahaha
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 26, 2017, 09:33:36 PM
Interesting to see how Inter invests year after year a lot of money and they still play the same old crap...people were calling us clueless and not creative and praising Inter - just watch this painful game against merda...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 26, 2017, 09:45:22 PM
Candreva is bit of unshaven hamster.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 26, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Candreva is bit of unshaven hamster.

Haha...he passed finally instead of shooting...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 26, 2017, 10:23:49 PM
Lol, second half merda collapses - and the game is suddenly enjoyable.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on August 26, 2017, 10:29:43 PM
de rossi getting whistles already hahahahah
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 26, 2017, 10:34:03 PM
Open the floodgates.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on August 26, 2017, 10:49:54 PM
draz needs to trash Riomma's opponents every week. Knew when reading his post Inter would win.

I think 1927 arguably have the worst manager in A.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on August 26, 2017, 10:51:16 PM
Im hoping I get a point in the Serie A knowledge game, cos I put Roma as the first team to fire the manager  :vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 26, 2017, 10:56:19 PM
draz needs to trash Riomma's opponents every week. Knew when reading his post Inter would win.

I think 1927 arguably have the worst manager in A.

 :beer:

i'm not trashing merda's opponents...but i must say that in the first half Inter looked clueless. miranda was making mistake after mistake and they were lucky not to get an own goal twice. in second half merda made some big tactical errors (you are right about their manager) and inter took advantage. but in my opinion both were pretty poor. also juve was bad in the first half at genoa and they were lucky to get a penalty in the last minute of the first half...that turned the game around...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on August 26, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
I think 1927 arguably have the worst manager in A.

Big statement. Don't know if I completely agree but he arguably has a weaker squd than Spaletti had last year. Now they gonna get Schick as well which is strange. They put Defrel out wide so Schick on the other flank?  :ohnoo:

Are they not gonna replace Salah? titty is ofcourse irreplaceable so no shock they're worse off now that he's in the stands (instead of bench)  :rolley:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 26, 2017, 10:59:16 PM
Looking at Inter i think that Keita will again compete with Candreva for a spot. I think Juao Mario and Perisic will have a guaranteed place. Would be interesting to see how that turns out...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 26, 2017, 11:00:14 PM
Thing that makes me happy more than 1927 loss tonight is that I saw return of Zeman on their bench. Friggin amazing.

Quote
Im hoping I get a point in the Serie A knowledge game, cos I put Roma as the first team to fire the manager  :vcool:

I put EDF also in game as first exit, but later give him benefit of doubt and revoked. Will be mad if lose one point there and EDF be the chosen one.   :wuzz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on August 26, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Rizmo
Big statement.

It is, but he doesnt have a great record. He lasted half a season in his first job in Lega Pro. He had a good season with Pescara but Zeman took over an blew him out if the water while Di Francesco lasted 13 games in Lecce. He got Sassuolo who were the richest club in B to A and got sacked. Last few seasons on the whole have been ok, bit nothing special.

There's no way he'd be where he is if he wasn't a former 1927 player.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on August 26, 2017, 11:52:20 PM
Im hoping I get a point in the Serie A knowledge game, cos I put Roma as the first team to fire the manager  :vcool:

First thing we have in common?  :wow:

I'm actually hoping he won't get sacked before the Derby  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on August 27, 2017, 12:00:51 AM
Im hoping I get a point in the Serie A knowledge game, cos I put Roma as the first team to fire the manager  :vcool:

First thing we have in common?  :wow:

I'm actually hoping he won't get sacked before the Derby  :beer:

Maybe we'll put the final nail in the coffin... again  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on August 27, 2017, 12:25:42 AM
Im hoping I get a point in the Serie A knowledge game, cos I put Roma as the first team to fire the manager  :vcool:

First thing we have in common?  :wow:

I'm actually hoping he won't get sacked before the Derby  :beer:

Maybe we'll put the final nail in the coffin... again  :whistle:

Sounds familiar  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on August 27, 2017, 05:03:57 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/27/milan-china-owners-champions-league-debts-us-equity-fund (https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/27/milan-china-owners-champions-league-debts-us-equity-fund)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 27, 2017, 05:23:34 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/27/milan-china-owners-champions-league-debts-us-equity-fund (https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/27/milan-china-owners-champions-league-debts-us-equity-fund)

They started early with pressure, so I guess we're going to see lot of matches where Mila have upper hands over opponents with some invisible force pushing for them...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on August 27, 2017, 08:35:22 PM
What a goal by Belotti
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on August 27, 2017, 09:09:25 PM
insane goal by belotti
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on August 27, 2017, 10:45:11 PM
Holy shit, SPAL won  :supsmile:
Are they the new Atalanta  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 27, 2017, 10:49:32 PM
Is it over at Mafianello? Will be over before midnight?   :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on August 28, 2017, 08:33:41 AM
Miha went completely crazy!  :happy:

And is his assistant Attilio Lombardi?

Mihajlovic indiavolato in panchina con Lombardo e Castellazzi (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JtOJQxaWvgA#)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: MilanChe on August 28, 2017, 04:09:17 PM
Yes he is  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 30, 2017, 06:10:33 PM
Viola sign Thereau!  Did not see that coming.  No Djordjevic then, damn shame.  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on August 30, 2017, 09:15:30 PM
Anybody has any good Serie A podcast recommendations?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 31, 2017, 09:07:14 PM
Inglese to Napoli for 10 mil...good deal for them...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on August 31, 2017, 09:47:40 PM
Inglese to Napoli for 10 mil...good deal for them...

But staying at Chievo this season i suppose?

Would be logical because Napoli could start stacking their attackers about now .....  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on August 31, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
Indeed, 1 year at Chievo. Good deal.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 31, 2017, 11:52:22 PM
Inda going into season with Miranda, Skriniar and Ranocchia as defenders.  :vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 12:03:54 AM
Inda going into season with Miranda, Skriniar and Ranocchia as defenders.  :vcool:

Yep, they tried for Mangala, Mustafi and .... Rolando as a final panic option but that also failed ...  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on September 01, 2017, 12:04:35 AM
Inda going into season with Miranda, Skriniar and Ranocchia as defenders.  :vcool:

And they still beat riomma 3-1 away  :vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 12:16:02 AM
Zappacosta to Chelsea for 28mill + 2mill bonusses.     
Do they simply overpay for no reason or what ?   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on September 01, 2017, 12:49:23 AM
Inda going into season with Miranda, Skriniar and Ranocchia as defenders.  :vcool:

And they still beat riomma 3-1 away  :vcool:

And they will beat them in return leg, no matter if they field Ranocchia or not - but that's because our boy Di Francesco isn't willing to does some tweaks whatsoever and complete lack of creativity. Di Francesco's lack of depth in tactical sense came alight last season and pretty much destroyed his reputation as coach he had at me. Not to mention his (absence of) character.

Spalleti will try to protect that mediocre defense for much of season - simply because he has brain to see holes in team - but I'm still not sure that may last for long with Miranda's obvious downgrade in physical department, Skriniar's lack of agility and Ranocchia's ruined reputation. But I may see them having load of issues if Icardi stops forking goals out of nothing and injuries appear. Their squad is far from very good.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 01:12:36 AM
Inda going into season with Miranda, Skriniar and Ranocchia as defenders.  :vcool:

And they still beat riomma 3-1 away  :vcool:

And they will beat them in return leg, no matter if they field Ranocchia or not - but that's because our boy Di Francesco isn't willing to does some tweaks whatsoever and complete lack of creativity. Di Francesco's lack of depth in tactical sense came alight last season and pretty much destroyed his reputation as coach he had at me. Not to mention his (absence of) character.

Spalleti will try to protect that mediocre defense for much of season - simply because he has brain to see holes in team - but I'm still not sure that may last for long with Miranda's obvious downgrade in physical department, Skriniar's lack of agility and Ranocchia's ruined reputation. But I may see them having load of issues if Icardi stops forking goals out of nothing and injuries appear. Their squad is far from very good.

Excellent post  :bravo:

It will be very interesting when Inzaghi sets up his lineup correctly and Ciro, Felipe or Nani can centrally run at Skriniar and Miranda.   :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Ljubo1 on September 07, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
Gazeto delo sport anaunced today how many money clubs spent on wages. Miles ahead is Juve with 164 millions, Lazio only spent 62 millions. In front of us are Milan with 117, Roma with 91, Inter 82, Napoli 81, and behind us is Torino with 45 millions.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: dinhochester on September 07, 2017, 12:36:16 PM
Gazeto delo sport anaunced today how many money clubs spent on wages. Miles ahead is Juve with 164 millions, Lazio only spent 62 millions. In front of us are Milan with 117, Roma with 91, Inter 82, Napoli 81, and behind us is Torino with 45 millions.
Will the wages spent equal to the final position at the table?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 07, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
The Lazio list according to GdS:
Lucas Leiva (2,5), Nani (2,5), Immobile (2,2), Milinkovic-Savic (1,5), Felipe Anderson (1,4), Marchetti (1,4), Parolo (1,4), Radu (1,4), De Vrij (1,3), Caicedo (1,2), Luis Alberto (1,2), Lulic (1,2), Bastos (0,9), Lukaku (0,9), Wallace (0,9), Basta (0,8), Di Gennaro (0,8), Marusic (0,7), Mauricio (0,7), Patric (0,7), Strakosha (0,6), Jordao (0,5), Murgia (0,5), Neto (0,5), Vargic (0,5), Luiz Felipe (0,2), Palombi (0,2), Prce (0,2), Crecco (0,1).

There isn't really anything too out of place there. It's time to move Marchetti on but he earnt that wage at the time the deal was signed. Obviously there are names missing (Djordjevic etc).

http://www.panorama.it/sport/calcio/stipendi-calciatori-serie-a-squadre/ (http://www.panorama.it/sport/calcio/stipendi-calciatori-serie-a-squadre/)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 08, 2017, 12:25:40 AM
Reportedly Milan sold Sosa to Trabzonspor for what is rumoured to be 6 mln. Good money for a 32-year old with his contract running out in 2k18, but makes their bench shorter.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on September 08, 2017, 05:32:12 PM
Sampdoria - Mafia reportedly to be rescheduled due to orange (medium) weather alarm at Genoa tomorrow afternoon.

Let the farce 'Marassi' begins.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on September 08, 2017, 09:06:07 PM
https://www.football-italia.net/109568/cairo-torino-juve-beijing (https://www.football-italia.net/109568/cairo-torino-juve-beijing)

Lol, imagine when the day comes they want to do the Roman derby in Asia.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 09, 2017, 03:26:38 AM
https://www.football-italia.net/109568/cairo-torino-juve-beijing (https://www.football-italia.net/109568/cairo-torino-juve-beijing)

Lol, imagine when the day comes they want to do the Roman derby in Asia.

What a nightmare that would be.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on September 10, 2017, 10:20:28 PM
Napoli Soccer always score in exactly same manner.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 10, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
And Hellas will be going down, if it wasn't obvious before .....  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on September 11, 2017, 01:10:07 PM
He should change his hair shampoo!

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/21479905_1709054452462879_6582127545368444928_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 11, 2017, 05:59:38 PM
Lapadula is injured and Bertolacci had a straight red in that match so those two are out for next week against us.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on September 11, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
Pandev literally is a dickhead!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 16, 2017, 05:14:59 PM
Shite, Crotone cracks in the end, Inter up top now with 1 goal against in 4 games.
Didn't expect that with their CB roster, credits to Spalletti who's no fool of course, we know that.

But they had an easy schedule.  Viola at first wasn't clicking at all yet, just as Merda on the 2nd matchday.
Then Spal and Crotone who they handled patiently.

They only have Serie A, Spalletti will plan well and protect the defence, aim to strike only when the chances occur.
I picked Milan (in Ilsempre's betting game) to finish higher the Inter in the endtable, i would doubt this now.
Unless they suddenly find their feet suickly when staying in a 3412.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on September 16, 2017, 09:16:57 PM
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/21688967_471555009879318_7719034495613009920_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 17, 2017, 01:34:03 AM
Isn't it amazing how quickly players are forgotten once they go to China. When was the last time Lavezzi, Tevez, Hulk or Pellè entered your mind?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 17, 2017, 02:30:25 AM
Well, they chose very good money and good for them. Now we know they cared about nothing other than their wallets all the time.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on September 17, 2017, 10:27:34 AM
All players care about their wallets all the time. It's just that some are not so easy in deciding to go to entire different culture and try to settle out when them and their families are well off in Europe.

Going to China or staying in Europe are both equally legitimate choices.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on September 17, 2017, 12:51:40 PM
Anyone got a good picture of this banner?

(https://i.imgur.com/zzfEFf1.jpg)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 17, 2017, 01:10:13 PM
(https://media-foto.tccstatic.com/storage/album/thumb1/b2366abe4f7c7d661ab9dfd6f56b95b4-75409-1502653806.jpeg)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on September 17, 2017, 01:15:15 PM
Thanks Sile!  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 17, 2017, 02:58:12 PM
Going to China or staying in Europe are both equally legitimate choices.

I get the cultural aspect and why it can be a drawback when thinking about a move to China but seriously, you think playing in Champions League and competing with the best is no reason at all for staying in Europe?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on September 17, 2017, 07:17:08 PM
Going to China or staying in Europe are both equally legitimate choices.

I get the cultural aspect and why it can be a drawback when thinking about a move to China but seriously, you think playing in Champions League and competing with the best is no reason at all for staying in Europe?

I said: 1) money, more money in China that players would ever earn in Europe; 2) they still going to run after the ball there or here in Europe. No difference at all in player's perspective.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 17, 2017, 11:11:15 PM
Let me get this straight. You're saying that the only things that count (for a player) are 1) earning the biggest money possible 2) running after the ball no matter where. So things like trophies, national teams, rivalry with the best, fans' and other players recognition, development, etc are nothing or am I getting it wrong?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on September 18, 2017, 08:03:14 AM
Let me get this straight. You're saying that the only things that count (for a player) are 1) earning the biggest money possible 2) running after the ball no matter where. So things like trophies, national teams, rivalry with the best, fans' and other players recognition, development, etc are nothing or am I getting it wrong?

Where have you been for the last 5 years?  :supsmile: This is football now.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on September 18, 2017, 08:46:44 AM
Let me get this straight. You're saying that the only things that count (for a player) are 1) earning the biggest money possible 2) running after the ball no matter where. So things like trophies, national teams, rivalry with the best, fans' and other players recognition, development, etc are nothing or am I getting it wrong?

Where have you been for the last 5 years?  :supsmile: This is football now.

Klose didn't retire 5 years ago  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 18, 2017, 02:17:54 PM
Let me get this straight. You're saying that the only things that count (for a player) are 1) earning the biggest money possible 2) running after the ball no matter where. So things like trophies, national teams, rivalry with the best, fans' and other players recognition, development, etc are nothing or am I getting it wrong?

Where have you been for the last 5 years?  :supsmile: This is football now.

Yeah, and all the best players are now in Asia and no one wants to play for Barca, Real, Juve, Chelsea, etc. but Shanghai Shenhua is number one destination.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 18, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
Yeah, and all the best players are now in Asia and no one wants to play for Barca, Real, Juve, Chelsea, etc. but Shanghai Shenhua is number one destination.

I think a lot of the players going to China are not playing for the top teams in the top competitions and therefore I could also legitimately believe some players would be more interested in winning in China than merely participating in Europe. For example, Graziano Pellè - he wasn't going to achieve much more in Europe so is it hard to believe part of him is in China to win?

Take Tevez as another example since that's how the discussion came to be. He was playing for Boca - a club he won everything in South America with at the start of his career. Sure, it is highly likely he went to China for financial reasons, but surely it's more appealing to him from a career perspective to play in China than it is to compete for the same competitions you already won back home.

I think fans can place too much emphasis on the desire to win. I strongly suspect your average footballer cares more about how much he's paid than what competitions he is competing for. Some will turn down much larger pay packets to try and win the Champions League, but they are few and far between.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 18, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
Yeah, I agree with what you are saying but that's totally different to 'all the players want to earn better money and it doesn't matter where'.

I understand why Tevez and Pelle' went to China and I respect their decisions but I feel it depends greatly on the context - you don't see many guys like Keita or Bonucci moving there and okay such players are minority in general (I mean their quality) but you neither witness average footballers going around with 'I'm here for the money, CL and trophies don't matter' and on the other hand you see players switching teams because 'I wanted to win something' (and I believe there's a huge difference in winning in your home league or some European to doing it in some more exotic locales, but maybe not for everyone) or 'I needed to get more attention from my national team coach' (and that requires relatively competitive football).

I believe you cannot generalize like that, or idk maybe narrow the spectrum to 'players from leagues outside top 6', 'players from lower levels', 'almost retiring veterans' etc, because it seems a little bit inaccurate to say that (edit: for) a footballer it's all about money.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 18, 2017, 03:26:43 PM
But it is all about money. There are exceptions to the rule but find me a sane person who would go from playing in the south of France or Italy to bloody Glasgow or Donetsk if it weren't for the cash.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 18, 2017, 05:35:31 PM
Well certainly, but find me a top player that kicks the ball in China. I get that money plays a major part but I don't believe it's the only factor. If it worked that way PSG would win CL after CL and Europe would be a third grade pitch.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on September 18, 2017, 06:11:23 PM
For example, Graziano Pellè - he wasn't going to achieve much more in Europe so is it hard to believe part of him is in China to win?

 :razz:  yeah, sure, he is in China because he wants to win their league. He went there because he knows he is a shit player who had a couple of good seasons in his career and won't win anything if he stays in Europe. And also because he is a greedy f*ck and the Chinese are stupid enough to give some Pelle 10 million euros per season.

Tevez went there and scored two goals in more than 10 games. Reports say that he gained some extra pounds and isn't focused on the pitch. Basically what he is doing is disrespectful towards the people who are paying him a lot, probably banging Asian babes left and right and then playing some recreational football. F*ck him and the likes of him.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 18, 2017, 06:27:50 PM
:razz:  yeah, sure, he is in China because he wants to win their league.

I wasn't implying that's the only reason he went there, just that I don't think he's gone there purely for the money - I'm sure somewhere deep down there's a willingness to win.

But of course, most players go where the money lies. As Akha pointed out, it's not fair to say every footballer is in it for the money, but I guess it becomes the main attraction for almost all of them.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on September 18, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
:razz:  yeah, sure, he is in China because he wants to win their league.

I wasn't implying that's the only reason he went there, just that I don't think he's gone there purely for the money - I'm sure somewhere deep down there's a willingness to win.

But of course, most players go where the money lies. As Akha pointed out, it's not fair to say every footballer is in it for the money, but I guess it becomes the main attraction for almost all of them.

He might be playing to win, that's down to his character, but if he wanted silverware he could have signed for Partizan or Zvezda. Otherwise it's purely for the money.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 19, 2017, 01:05:59 AM
I don't think it's completely unrealistic to suggest players go to Asia for the challenge or the lifestyle experience. But money is surely the only reason to choose China over other Asian leagues.

For instance, you don't hear of big name players winding their career down in the Japanese J.League -- a much superior competition to the Chinese Super League where the crowds and standard of football probably are on par with a smaller European league or better.

To a lesser extent that applies to Korea also. The other thing that gives it away is that most of these players don't particularly do well on the field after making the move. None of the big CSL signings have lit up the league as far as I'm aware and even most who come to Australia on far less money have been stars.

One exception would be Marc Janko, who joined Sydney for legitimate football and lifestyle choices, won the golden boot and ended up going back to Europe where he continued to do well.

For comparison, what has Ezequiel Lavezzi done in China?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on September 19, 2017, 09:03:24 AM
I think this is a very valid point. With the standard of opposition and team mates, one would expect a player of the quality of Lavezzi, Pato, Tevez, even Pelle, to get 2 goals a game. But they dont. Theres that stat about Tevez, and if I remember correctly it took Lavezzi a long time to get his first goal.

Personally I would choose Japan or Australia. The J league is actually pretty good and interesting, with some good quality football being played.

While its true some players choose to go to Asia for a new challenge, different lifestyle, etc (Podolski for example in Japan) most choose China for the money and money alone. The lifestyle there is massively different, especially for a westerner, and even more so than Japan where there is a nice mix of eastern and western culture.

Tevez is 100% only there for the money. His situation annoys me actually because its a prime example of what gives footballers this mercenary reputation.
He grew up poor and sends money to his family.. OK, I respect that. But by the time he was at Man Utd he had earned enough money for him and his family to live out their days. Then he started acting up, saying he was homesick. But refused every opportunity to go back to Argentina, because the clubs couldnt offer him the wage he wanted.
He then refused to go to Spain - the closest youll get to Argentina culturally in Europe - because they couldnt offer him the wage he wanted.
Finally he went back to Boca and you think thats it, hes home, hes happy. Played great for a season. Then the greed set in again and now hes sat on his fat ass in China.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 19, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
While its true some players choose to go to Asia for a new challenge, different lifestyle, etc (Podolski for example in Japan) most choose China for the money and money alone. The lifestyle there is massively different, especially for a westerner, and even more so than Japan where there is a nice mix of eastern and western culture.

I'm sure the particular culture that exists where some of these guys are playing in China is a significant contributor to their sub-par performances relative to Japan and Australia, for example. They're not all jogging about for 90 minutes and looking forward to getting off the pitch so they can start looking at their bank balance again. It would be difficult for even the most motivated foreign pro in China.

Tevez is 100% only there for the money. His situation annoys me actually because its a prime example of what gives footballers this mercenary reputation.

I get that it's generally seen as wrong in life to want money, but it could also be considered to be pretty f**ked up to turn down 10 million to have the opportunity to tell the grandkids you won the Champions League. But to be able to watch professional football and not feel dirty, I guess it has to be looked at a certain way.

I'd have done the same as Tevez and I'm pretty sure 95% of people would and the other 5%, well, it would be a matter of personal opinion as to whether I'd see them as incredibly noble or complete and utter egomaniacs.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 19, 2017, 10:32:17 AM
For 20 million quid salary I'd form my own version of champions league

with blackjack

and hookers
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: dinhochester on September 19, 2017, 10:39:23 AM
For 20 million quid salary I'd form my own version of champions league

with blackjack

and hookers
:razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on September 19, 2017, 11:30:34 AM
I'm sure the particular culture that exists where some of these guys are playing in China is a significant contributor to their sub-par performances relative to Japan and Australia, for example. They're not all jogging about for 90 minutes and looking forward to getting off the pitch so they can start looking at their bank balance again. It would be difficult for even the most motivated foreign pro in China.

Thats potentially true, weve all seen players move abroad and not make it, an culture shock is probably a big factor in that. However personally I believe theres a big difference between, eg, Immobile failing in Germany where he was clearly not settled mentally but was still asked to perform against world class opposition.
Compared to eg Lavezzi who while he is probably also feeling the culture shock, is being asked to perform against opposition that I would think a League 1 side could beat. You would expect world class players to do better in that situation.


I get that it's generally seen as wrong in life to want money, but it could also be considered to be pretty f**ked up to turn down 10 million to have the opportunity to tell the grandkids you won the Champions League. But to be able to watch professional football and not feel dirty, I guess it has to be looked at a certain way.

I'd have done the same as Tevez and I'm pretty sure 95% of people would and the other 5%, well, it would be a matter of personal opinion as to whether I'd see them as incredibly noble or complete and utter egomaniacs.

Again, both agree and disagree. Everyone in the world would have their head turned by an offer of so much money, and im sure 9/10 people would take it, even if that meant going to work on the other side of the world in a place you dont particularly like.
However were  not talking about me or you. Were talking about people who are already multi millionaires, they dont need the money - they just want more of it.

And what annoyed me particularly about Tevez was how he said for ages he was homesick, missed Argentina etc, he wouldnt go back when he had the chance. Then he did finally go back, and had a great season with Boca, proving that he wasnt lying, his poor performances were in fact down to his mental state. So why repeat that, if not for the money alone?

The example a lot of people bring up as an alternative approach is Ibra. At this stage in his career, he could easily have gone to China, Dubai, and made millions. But he took a pay cut to go to United, and another one this season to stay, because he felt on a sporting level he still had something to give. He chose the "hard" way, staying at the highest level.

At the end of the day I think it comes down to personality and what you think is more important in life, making as much money as possible to make yours and your families lives easier after your retirement. Or you get to a point financially where you are more than comfortable, so you want a career to be "prouder" of once you retire.

Some people will respect that, and some will think youre a fool for not taking the cash, and I totally understand both points of view.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 19, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
Ego is the other big driver that shouldn't be forgotten. It's not all money v morals.

Tim Cahill is a good example. He had a great career in England and at international level for such a limited player, which is testament to his unfailing approach to the game.

Finished in England, he went to New York Red Bulls, a clear lifestyle choice as he could've earnt more elsewhere but he wanted to live in NYC with his young family for a while. Very understandable for a guy not much older than some of us to want to play alongside Thierry Henry in a respectable competition while sampling NYC-life.

Then he could've come back to Australia but instead chose to go to China with Shanghai Shenhua. He actually told media Australia "couldn't give him what he was after". He got slammed by a lot of people down here for this, accusing him of wanting money.

A very self-serving doco was produced in which he tried to pass off his Chinese stint as being about growing the game in Asia, which most cynical people laughed off. He obviously plays in Australia now but not for a Sydney club (his hometown) but cashed up, Abu Dhabi group-owned Melbourne City.

Thing is I think he genuinely believed the hype that he was essentially doing what David Beckham did in LA. I reckon a lot of players are told that by these clubs and the egomaniacs among the footballers believe every word of it. Can any of them do what Becks did in LA? No way. Some might be able to do half of that but probably none of the names in this thread.

Del Piero did it in Australia and by and large it worked. I go to Italy now and people speak of Australian soccer with respect and they probably only know the league because he played there. The fact he didn't exactly destroy every club on the field maybe helped with that.

This post isn't to be judgmental one way or the other either. I don't think these guys choices can be faulted.

I find a lot of professional footballers don't follow the game as closely as we fans do. They play, train and dedicate their lives to it but do they follow the goings on of other clubs and leagues like a fan? Doubt it. The proof of that is how so many players are talked into joining Milan/Inter "to win" when anyone who follows football knows they aren't in a position to. Again, ego.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 19, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Ego is the other big driver that shouldn't be forgotten.

And that can apply to either side of the debate, be it Cahill wanting to make football big in Asia or as I was trying to get at, a bit part player at a big club who is there purely to win.

Asmir Begovic springs to mind. After years as the number one at Stoke, he signed to be a back-up at Chelsea two seasons ago and no sooner than he could say 'Premier League winner Asmir Begovic' did he want to go back to playing regularly at a lesser club.

Now, some would probably say he's a mercenary and maybe he is, but I think it is just as likely to be ego - the opportunity to win something, to test himself at a certain level even if it meant less minutes etc. I also think it could have been ego when he chose Bosnia over Canada, recognising which country was going to give him the best chance of playing in major tournaments, but I'm sure Bosnians will see it differently.

So yeah, I agree with you, but it goes both ways for me.

I'd love to think if I was a professional and had the opportunity to join Lazio, I'd do everything in my power to remain at the club for life but I know from career mode in FIFA that when I assign myself to Lazio and the manager sticks me alongside Emiliano Alfaro, the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona become tempting. So I can't really envisage what it's like to be a real pro with actual incentives on the able to go here, there and everywhere. I don't think any of us can.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 19, 2017, 12:20:16 PM
Begovic played a bit at Chelsea though didn't he? Canada is a really interesting country as far as the game is concerned. Beats me how they haven't even got a league!

Does anyone ever envisage a time in the future (maybe 20 years away) when the clubs of big cities of Asia and the Americas, such as NYC, Shanghai, Osaka, LA and maybe Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Rio etc are genuine big clubs that play off against the traditional big European clubs? A kind of global Champions League. I wouldn't rule it out. Certainly the Latin American giants should be looking at it if they want to remain big names in the game.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 19, 2017, 12:47:58 PM
Begovic played a bit at Chelsea though didn't he?

He played because Courtois missed half a season with an injury, barely saw the field in the last 18 months.

He came into my mind because I was listening to this podcast and heard the suggestion that he joined Chelsea believing that Courtois would get hurt at some point and he'd then make himself the no. 1. Which makes him either an egomaniac or a fool in my opinion - I'm undecided.

Does anyone ever envisage a time in the future (maybe 20 years away) when the clubs of big cities of Asia and the Americas, such as NYC, Shanghai, Osaka, LA and maybe Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Rio etc are genuine big clubs that play off against the traditional big European clubs? A kind of global Champions League. I wouldn't rule it out. Certainly the Latin American giants should be looking at it if they want to remain big names in the game.

I can see it happening, but these things are always a lot further away from being realised than people think.

Take Formula One for example. 20 years ago, both football and Formula One were essentially European having failed to establish enough of a following in a US to expand globally. Then major Asian nations invested in F1 but only those with a lot of money have been able to hold an annual race because there's still not enough interest to make it financially viable.

Difference with football is that these riches from Asia are being put into European teams. Some of them have and will flourish, crisis will strike many others. It's difficult to predict the fallout from that.

The only way football expands globally is if the powers that be are open to it, but for as long as investment into European clubs from Asia and afar continues, there's no incentive.

I do see it happening though. When I was young, the World Cup was the pinnacle and now it's the Champions League. In time, it could easily be something else. Just think it's probably more than 20 years down the road.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on September 19, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
Speaking of Begovic, many in Bosnia also wondered why he choose Chelsea and a clear number spot, he said he understand he would be number 2 there but he wanted to test himself in a top club with top players and he couldn't say no to Mourinho and whole that experiance.
As for him playing for Bosnia over Canada, it is a natural choice. He is Bosnian, there is no doubt over that so no fuzz there.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioCanada on September 19, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
As for him playing for Bosnia over Canada, it is a natural choice. He is Bosnian, there is no doubt over that so no fuzz there.

Actually yeah there was. Guy moved to Canada when he was 3. Played his whole life in Canada's setup, talked about how greatful he was for Canada saving his family from the war. When he was playing for the u20's, he got called up the men's national side. He said he wanted to focus on his club team, and would except a call up once World Cup qualifying came around. Then one day, without notice, without saying anything to anyone, he gets called up by Bosnia. He is entitled to do so, but the way he pulled Canadians along and bullshitted about owing to country, makes him very much a scumbag.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on September 19, 2017, 05:39:50 PM
As for him playing for Bosnia over Canada, it is a natural choice. He is Bosnian, there is no doubt over that so no fuzz there.

Actually yeah there was. Guy moved to Canada when he was 3. Played his whole life in Canada's setup, talked about how greatful he was for Canada saving his family from the war. When he was playing for the u20's, he got called up the men's national side. He said he wanted to focus on his club team, and would except a call up once World Cup qualifying came around. Then one day, without notice, without saying anything to anyone, he gets called up by Bosnia. He is entitled to do so, but the way he pulled Canadians along and bullshitted about owing to country, makes him very much a scumbag.
Can be a scumbag but still he is a bosnian, I don't know how can he be or feel like a canadian.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioCanada on September 19, 2017, 09:03:49 PM
Huh? He lived in Canada for 15-16 years. I would assume he would feel some sort attachment to Canada.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 19, 2017, 09:49:00 PM
Just watched the first half Bologna -Inter.  Inter makes Bologna look good and the are in front. 

Valero is positioned as the last man in front of the defence as a regista type, good passing skill of course but really lacks defensive ability.  Joao Mario runs around like a headless chicken and looking of no use.  And Candreva is very busy doing backheel passes en lot's of showfull things that never reach an opponent or are of use (typical).  Skriniar is looking a better CB then Miranda at the moment.  Icardi invisable the first half but that's normal, he'll probably score twice late in the 2nd half, hopefully not ....
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on September 19, 2017, 09:56:32 PM
Huh? He lived in Canada for 15-16 years. I would assume he would feel some sort attachment to Canada.
Sure he would, but not enough to feel like a canadian. You can't erase your roots and heritage so easy.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on September 19, 2017, 10:15:01 PM
He moved there when he was 3, he probably has no memories of before that time in Bosnia, his formative years were in Canada, im willing to bet he feels more Canadian than Bosnian. Its not as if he grew up in Bosnia and then moved away at a time when he knew what was going on.

He absolutely chose to play for Bosnia because they would offer him more chance at high level International football, being in the European Championships, and much more likely to qualify for the World Cup.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 19, 2017, 10:28:46 PM
Just watched the first half Bologna -Inter.  Inter makes Bologna look good and the are in front. 

Valero is positioned as the last man in front of the defence as a regista type, good passing skill of course but really lacks defensive ability.  Joao Mario runs around like a headless chicken and looking of no use.  And Candreva is very busy doing backheel passes en lot's of showfull things that never reach an opponent or are of use (typical).  Skriniar is looking a better CB then Miranda at the moment.  Icardi invisable the first half but that's normal, he'll probably score twice late in the 2nd half, hopefully not ....

Rigore Inter - Icardi 1-1, typical    :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 19, 2017, 10:45:28 PM
Inda already dropping points, tss
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 19, 2017, 10:53:54 PM
Inda already dropping points, tss

Ridiculous penalty, unbelievable.  Donadoni is furious.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: jovo on September 19, 2017, 11:07:03 PM
Bologna looked like R.Madrid against them, what a bad display from Inter. I can not belive that a guy like Poli made the Zidane move against Perisic and one more player. Hahaha  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 19, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Strong rumour that Thohir is already pulling out.  Seems Moretti might be buying back his shares.    :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on September 19, 2017, 11:52:02 PM
Inda already dropping points, tss

Ridiculous penalty, unbelievable.  Donadoni is furious.

Well, I'd be furious if that penalty wasn't awarded for us. Harsh but still a penalty.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 19, 2017, 11:55:06 PM
Inda already dropping points, tss

Ridiculous penalty, unbelievable.  Donadoni is furious.

Well, I'd be furious if that penalty wasn't awarded for us. Harsh but still a penalty.

Very harsh, but technically a penalty yes.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 20, 2017, 01:27:17 AM
That is just sensationally idiotic from Bologna defender, his teammates must be furious.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 20, 2017, 02:07:43 AM
That is just sensationally idiotic from Bologna defender, his teammates must be furious.

If it was fully on purpose that is?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 20, 2017, 02:25:49 AM
That is just sensationally idiotic from Bologna defender, his teammates must be furious.

If it was fully on purpose that is?

Wasn't it? I mean how can you grab someone's leg with your hand in a penalty box while there are no other players to cover you from sight and think you can get away with that?
I've been rewatching video of this a few times already and I think it wasn't the brightest of Mbaye to commit such a foul.

I mean, had any of our boys got away a penalty like that I'd be much more disappointed than if it happened after being late with a tackle, outdribbled or simply unfortunate. But idk, maybe I'm overreacting here  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 20, 2017, 03:06:44 AM
That is just sensationally idiotic from Bologna defender, his teammates must be furious.

If it was fully on purpose that is?

Wasn't it? I mean how can you grab someone's leg with your hand in a penalty box while there are no other players to cover you from sight and think you can get away with that?
I've been rewatching video of this a few times already and I think it wasn't the brightest of Mbaye to commit such a foul.

I mean, had any of our boys got away a penalty like that I'd be much more disappointed than if it happened after being late with a tackle, outdribbled or simply unfortunate. But idk, maybe I'm overreacting here  :supsmile:

I saw it live, didn't watch an reruns or highlights.  If he actually grabbed his leg then it's indeed really stupid. 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Miro on September 20, 2017, 04:57:00 AM
He moved there when he was 3, he probably has no memories of before that time in Bosnia, his formative years were in Canada, im willing to bet he feels more Canadian than Bosnian. Its not as if he grew up in Bosnia and then moved away at a time when he knew what was going on.

He absolutely chose to play for Bosnia because they would offer him more chance at high level International football, being in the European Championships, and much more likely to qualify for the World Cup.

I think you would lose that bet. My parents and his went to the same school to learn English. So I got a chance to hang out with him few times when our parents were together. Lots of Bosnian's that I have met here (including him), whether they were born here or not, they feel Bosnian.

You are right about that. At the time Canadian soccer was a complete joke and he saw Bosnia as a better opportunity. It was a douche move but I can't really blame him. I would have done the same thing if I was in his position. 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on September 20, 2017, 09:01:47 AM
He moved there when he was 3, he probably has no memories of before that time in Bosnia, his formative years were in Canada, im willing to bet he feels more Canadian than Bosnian. Its not as if he grew up in Bosnia and then moved away at a time when he knew what was going on.

He absolutely chose to play for Bosnia because they would offer him more chance at high level International football, being in the European Championships, and much more likely to qualify for the World Cup.
It really dosen't matter where he grow up, his mother language is bosnian, his name and surename are bosnian, his parents are bosnian, everything about him is bosnian so I can't see why he would feel more like Canadian.
I  moved to Sweden when I was little kid, but I don' t feel swedish at all.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 20, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
That's because you were brought up to feel Bosnian.

If whoever we were talking about came to Canada from Bosnia and was adopted and raised Canadian, the fact that he was Bosnian by birth would mean nothing. So it's not a very simple question and there's no straightforward answer, everyone decides for himself, but as someone mentioned, it's kind of a dick move to drag people along and use up all the opportunities given by the country you live in just to abandon them and take up the call from the "motherland".
Best example I can think of is half the Kosovo NT was brought up and went through the youth ranks and U17, U 19, U21 or whatever in Switzerland, Germany. To me, that's betrayal. You took up places in the NT's from plenty of people who'd die for Switzerland and Germany for instance.
These examples are abundant and it's one of the reasons I really don't follow NTs. Ever since Eduardo da Silva dos Santos became "Croatian" and half the team never set foot in Croatia until they started playing well in whichever league they were playing in and got called up.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 20, 2017, 10:41:27 AM
Hey Sile, how about your famous Australian taxpayer-funded defender Josip "za dom" Šimunić? :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 20, 2017, 10:59:47 AM
Ah yes, the try-hard PATRIOT who missed the WC due to suspension, and who is now assistant  to the worst NT coach in history. Perfect example
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on September 20, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Is he popular in Croatia? He's very polarising here for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 20, 2017, 02:35:58 PM
He's popular with the type of crowd who share the ideas that got him suspended, and the ones who remember his good games with the NT. With the others, not so much
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on September 20, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
That's because you were brought up to feel Bosnian.

If whoever we were talking about came to Canada from Bosnia and was adopted and raised Canadian, the fact that he was Bosnian by birth would mean nothing. So it's not a very simple question and there's no straightforward answer, everyone decides for himself, but as someone mentioned, it's kind of a dick move to drag people along and use up all the opportunities given by the country you live in just to abandon them and take up the call from the "motherland".
Best example I can think of is half the Kosovo NT was brought up and went through the youth ranks and U17, U 19, U21 or whatever in Switzerland, Germany. To me, that's betrayal. You took up places in the NT's from plenty of people who'd die for Switzerland and Germany for instance.
These examples are abundant and it's one of the reasons I really don't follow NTs. Ever since Eduardo da Silva dos Santos became "Croatian" and half the team never set foot in Croatia until they started playing well in whichever league they were playing in and got called up.
But those players are albaninan, for me it is unnaturall that someone who's name is Xherdan Shaqiri is considered as a Swiss. Switzerland and Germany have plenty of players to choose from. If Shaqiri plays for Switzerland, Ledesma for Italy, Özil for Germany, Begovic for Canada, Eduardo for Croatian and whoever, then what's the point of National Team anyway? Look at basketball, every NT have some american dude or handball where Qatar for example have players from France, Spain, the Balkans. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 20, 2017, 09:41:23 PM
They're Albanian but aren't using up Albania resources in their development. Their country of domicile is investing heavily in their development, coaching, travels etc and the second they get a senior call-up from the motherland they hightail it out of there. FIFA or UEFA or whoever should impose stricter rules for these deserters, having one nationality until they're 18 and another after 18 years of age.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on September 20, 2017, 10:10:53 PM
But that's my point, they are albanians, they should play for their motherland. If anybody is investing in them it's their clubs.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 24, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
Inter scored 3 minutes from time. Lucky f*ckers.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on September 24, 2017, 04:53:57 PM
Freaking Inter sc9red a winner in 87th.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 24, 2017, 06:07:17 PM
Inter scored 3 minutes from time. Lucky f*ckers.

Yep, they do it again in the last 10 minutes, crap!    :sevil:

But i'll say it again the calender has been made for them up till now, it will get tougher week in week out.
Of course they don't have Europe.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 24, 2017, 09:46:46 PM
Ramirez made Bonucci look helpless.

Thank the universe that Borini picked Milan above us.    :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on September 24, 2017, 09:59:15 PM
Ramirez made Bonucci look helpless.

Thank the universe that Borini picked Milan above us.    :bravo:

Yep, he wanted to win trophies  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on September 26, 2017, 04:05:14 PM
Agnelli suspended because of dealings with the mafia...is this true?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 26, 2017, 04:23:11 PM
Agnelli suspended because of dealings with the mafia...is this true?

Indirectly, I would say. He was suspended for helping sell tickets to Ultras, some of which appear to have connections with the mafia, who then sold the tickets off at a profit.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on September 26, 2017, 04:53:01 PM
Agnelli suspended because of dealings with the mafia...is this true?

Indirectly, I would say. He was suspended for helping sell tickets to Ultras, some of which appear to have connections with the mafia, who then sold the tickets off at a profit.

One hand washes the other :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on September 26, 2017, 06:13:22 PM
Sounds pretty far-fetched to me, just another 'masterpiece' of Italian sensationalism.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 26, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
Same as Mauri, guilt by association.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on September 27, 2017, 02:23:09 PM
Must admit I find it frustrating that Juve and Napoli are not dropping points.

They are bloody perfect. At this pace, come December they will seperate from the bunch with 10 points at least. Not that we did not expect that, but I though they would drop more points here or there.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on September 27, 2017, 03:05:10 PM
Must admit I find it frustrating that Juve and Napoli are not dropping points.

They are bloody perfect. At this pace, come December they will seperate from the bunch with 10 points at least. Not that we did not expect that, but I though they would drop more points here or there.

Neither have had particularly difficult matches so far and Napoli beat us with our defensive exodus. Napoli are far from perfect and have struggled quite a bit in matches. Juve are surprising me more than anything.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 27, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
Inter are Sampdoria are both unbeaten, and we could easily be unbeaten too.

Juventus and Napoli ain't going to be 10 points clear in December unless some clubs are hit by catastrophes.

As much as I don't rate Inter that highly as a team, it's hard to see where the drop points in the next couple of months outside of Naples. And that's the issue - so many teams in this league are merely participating.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on September 27, 2017, 03:56:52 PM
Must admit I find it frustrating that Juve and Napoli are not dropping points.

They are bloody perfect. At this pace, come December they will seperate from the bunch with 10 points at least. Not that we did not expect that, but I though they would drop more points here or there.

Neither have had particularly difficult matches so far and Napoli beat us with our defensive exodus. Napoli are far from perfect and have struggled quite a bit in matches. Juve are surprising me more than anything.


Napoli have struggled?

@Verona 1-3
Atalanta 3-1
@Bologna 0-3
Benevento 6-0
@Lazio 1-4
@Spal 2-3

Where do you see the struggle here Gio? They are scoring an average of 3.5 at home which is scary!

@Cathal, being unbeaten proves nothing if you make too many draws. Look at the Samp, already 7 points behind for comparison.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on September 27, 2017, 04:00:28 PM
They struggled against us and only our injury crisis helped them. They struggled against newly-promoted SPAL and scored a winner in the 83rd.
Verona and Benevento are bottom feeders. Atalanta sold half their team.
It will be very interesting to see what they can do against any of the Milan clubs, Rube and merda.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 27, 2017, 04:08:39 PM
@Cathal, being unbeaten proves nothing if you make too many draws. Look at the Samp, already 7 points behind for comparison.

Being unbeaten proves you are unbeaten, the same way Juventus and Napoli having 100% records proves only that they have 100% records.

Napoli struggled against us and SPAL and lost to Shakhtar in Europe. Juventus lost to us in the Supercoppa, were floundering in Genoa and needed a great comeback, were hammered by Barcelona in Europe and were unconvincing against Fiorentina.

I struggle to see how those two teams are going to be 10 points clear of everyone else in December. Possible, but that's as bold as a prediction could be.

I think almost everyone agrees they are the best two teams in the league so the league table shouldn't surprise anyone.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue-white on September 27, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
Have to agree that Napoli had problems vs us, vs Spal and vs. Atalanta where they were down 0:1 and turned it thanks to a stunner by Zielinski to 1:1...the rest was then easier.

Normally, i would have seen Inter in December next to Juve and Napoli, because Inter only plays Serie A, but they are not acting like a team in their games at the moment.

We will see, but i don't think that both Juve and Napoli will be 10 points ahead of the others.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on September 28, 2017, 08:31:28 AM
Have to agree that Napoli had problems vs us, vs Spal and vs. Atalanta where they were down 0:1 and turned it thanks to a stunner by Zielinski to 1:1...the rest was then easier.


Guys, that`s the issue - they win even those matches which they are supposed to drop points. They have the self confidence to do that, to grab full points and march forward.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on September 28, 2017, 08:48:31 AM
Guys, that`s the issue - they win even those matches which they are supposed to drop points. They have the self confidence to do that, to grab full points and march forward.

Neither of them have played a game yet where they would've been expected to drop points. I don't know what's surprising about their league status. Both sides have much tougher schedules down the line.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on September 28, 2017, 11:41:42 AM
Have to agree that Napoli had problems vs us, vs Spal and vs. Atalanta where they were down 0:1 and turned it thanks to a stunner by Zielinski to 1:1...the rest was then easier.


Guys, that`s the issue - they win even those matches which they are supposed to drop points. They have the self confidence to do that, to grab full points and march forward.

Bar our match against Napoli - which was our injury crisis that lost it - you could say the same about us. We've been the team that never give up.

I agree if you look only at results, both Juve and Napoli look good but if you followed each match in real time it's very evident that they have struggled to win many of these simple matches.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on September 28, 2017, 11:49:25 AM
Have to agree that Napoli had problems vs us, vs Spal and vs. Atalanta where they were down 0:1 and turned it thanks to a stunner by Zielinski to 1:1...the rest was then easier.


Guys, that`s the issue - they win even those matches which they are supposed to drop points. They have the self confidence to do that, to grab full points and march forward.

Bar our match against Napoli - which was our injury crisis that lost it - you could say the same about us. We've been the team that never give up.

Yes now it's really 'non mollare mai'.  What scares me today is a future without Inzaghi.  He's now magic tactician, he's certainly good enough but he's an incredible motivator.  I hope this lasts as long as possible.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on October 01, 2017, 09:35:04 PM
Mighty Milan is pure and utter crap.

merde are what they are.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on October 01, 2017, 09:38:34 PM
Montella and Jurić to get sacked?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 01, 2017, 09:54:50 PM
merde with a lucky deflection to win it. Donnarumma at fault for the 2nd goal, hard for me to see the greatness sometimes. Not much better then Strakosha imo.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 01, 2017, 10:22:15 PM
Mighty Milan is pure and utter crap.

merde are what they are.

..... but but but, they have Bonucci  ;D

and Biglia is there to finally win trophies ....  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Emko on October 01, 2017, 10:34:17 PM
Hmm, strange penalty for Juve against Atalanta. How on earth this is a hand ball? Even after VAR... Strange.

Bravo to Berisha, though.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 01, 2017, 10:50:05 PM
Hmm, strange penalty for Juve against Atalanta. How on earth this is a hand ball? Even after VAR... Strange.

Bravo to Berisha, though.

Yeah I was certain that the penalty would've been cancelled and was on my way to post here about Juve not getting away with everything now that VAR is here but I think that the first VAR incident influenced the penalty decision. It was juuust about in the grey zone for the ref to stand by his call. If the 3-1 VAR situation never happened the penalty would've been cancelled, I'm certain of it.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on October 02, 2017, 04:41:57 AM
Mighty Milan is pure and utter crap.

merde are what they are.

..... but but but, they have Bonucci  ;D

and Biglia is there to finally win trophies ....  :whistle:

never get old, that line is  :bravo: :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on October 02, 2017, 09:31:50 AM
Hmm, strange penalty for Juve against Atalanta. How on earth this is a hand ball? Even after VAR... Strange.

Bravo to Berisha, though.

It was an embarrassment. How can a referee looking at the video still keep the same decision. Strange refereeing from Damato - felt more like a compensation for previous decision on Mandzukic's goal - which was the correct one. juve remains maffia.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 02, 2017, 10:13:14 AM
It was an embarrassment. How can a referee looking at the video still keep the same decision.

For the same reason Sassuolo got a penalty yesterday.

The shoulder is considered part of the arm according to the rules of football, so according to the rules, it was a "handball". The decision that has to be made is whether it's a foul or not.

And obviously Damato decided it was. Would I have given it? Not in a million years. But these kind of "handball" decisions are given week in, week out.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on October 04, 2017, 07:12:41 PM
Milan is proving to be a very shaky side. They had chances in the first half but their shots and finishing were awful.

Players like Borini, Biglia, Kessie and Andre Silva are playing badly and Milan spent around 100 millions on them.

They barely beat Rijeka and they've spent a lot of money in the summer.

Inter is winning but playing some shit football. Candreva passing the ball without even looking up, Icardi not being able to score, Benevento gave them much more trouble then I expected.

Torino throwing away three points against Verona, I can only imagine how pissed Mihajlovic was. Fiorentina is exactly what I expected, sometimes good and sometimes bad.

Napoli seems to be picking up points without much trouble. It always drives me crazy how this team always plays the same style of football and always scores the same goals over and over again.

Juventus seemed to have tough time winning and now when they drew to Atalanta they are vulnerable. Bonucci leaving made them weaker but I'm not sure whether Matuidi is playing as good as he can either so they are having problems in midfield too.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Ljubo1 on October 05, 2017, 02:40:36 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/110867/china-recall-milan-money (http://www.football-italia.net/110867/china-recall-milan-money) Soon it Will happen to Inter too. Seria A Will not be the same without Milan clubs :supsmile: And Merda is 42 millions minushttp://www.football-italia.net/110858/roma-run-%E2%82%AC42m-loss . Well I can do without them :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 05, 2017, 02:55:25 PM
I don't think there is a single person walking on earth who has enough info at hand to understand what is actually going on at Milan.

It's early days in Serie A, but my predictions were that Juve, Napoli, 1927, Milan, Inter and ourselves would be more or less the Top 6, I had Sampdoria, Torino, Atalanta and Fiorentina as best of the rest, Sassuolo to struggle and Genoa, Verona and Benevento as the three teams going down.

I could sit here and say I'm a genius, but it's simply predictable. There's real issues in Serie A with regard to the quality throughout the league. There's 9-10 teams that are way off the pace, some more than others.

I'm expecting something similar to the Premier League last season or La Liga a couple of seasons ago where 75 points might not be enough to make the Champions League because the lesser teams can't compete. If Milan are all at sea and in a real crisis, it is almost inevitable that if we are to push for CL, we're going to need a record points haul and then some.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on October 05, 2017, 03:10:22 PM
[url]http://www.football-italia.net/110867/china-recall-milan-money[/url] ([url]http://www.football-italia.net/110867/china-recall-milan-money[/url]) Soon it Will happen to Inter too. Seria A Will not be the same without Milan clubs :supsmile: And Merda is 42 millions minushttp://www.football-italia.net/110858/roma-run-%E2%82%AC42m-loss . Well I can do without them :offlag:


I'd like to draw people's attention to the last line of the article. While so many people were screaming about our lack of a project and wishing we had Milan's in the summer, this is what we warned was probably going to happen to them.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 09, 2017, 10:08:11 AM
I remember a few years ago, there would be countless posts on the forum arguing that to be successful, we needed to invest in Italian players.

CIES have found today that Napoli, Lazio and Inter are the three teams in Serie A giving foreigners the most minutes. The three teams chasing an aging Juventus side with an Italian core are three teams full of foreigners. Furthermore, if you look at the Italians at Napoli, Lazio and Inter, most of them are 29+

It really looks like a generation went missing in Italian football and left Immobile and Insigne behind or something. And it's perhaps and interest sub-plot to see how this plays out in Serie A over the next few years. I think it's hitting the national team right about now...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Ljubo1 on October 12, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/111206/lazio-lose-stadium-closure-appeal (http://www.football-italia.net/111206/lazio-lose-stadium-closure-appeal) We lost our appeal against closer for Curva. Well I read today that they are thinking to upen the Curva Sud fo the game. I don't know that is the truth :fingerup:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on October 14, 2017, 08:10:29 PM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on October 14, 2017, 08:19:37 PM
not sure I'm waiting for the media to start put us on scudetto race, but it feel good to give the running champion their first defeat, in their home, after two year record

 :band04: :Esflag: :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 14, 2017, 09:09:04 PM
World class through pass by derossi to Insigne for 1-0  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 14, 2017, 09:10:29 PM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

Bro, after reviewing your last posts I think that maybe you might have caps lock on. Hey, I'm not certain but there is a slight chance.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on October 14, 2017, 09:14:30 PM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

Bro, after reviewing your last posts I think that maybe you might have caps lock on. Hey, I'm not certain but there is a slight chance.
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT I HAVE AN EAR INFECTION SO IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE I'M YELLING
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 14, 2017, 09:15:30 PM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

Bro, after reviewing your last posts I think that maybe you might have caps lock on. Hey, I'm not certain but there is a slight chance.
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT I HAVE AN EAR INFECTION SO IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE I'M YELLING

No sorry, I think I might be in the wrong here. SORRY OK???
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on October 14, 2017, 09:24:52 PM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

One day I hope to meet a girl who says "choke me like Higuain chokes in front of goal"...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cnon on October 14, 2017, 09:38:54 PM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

One day I hope to meet a girl who says "choke me like Higuain chokes in front of goal"...

Dont' we all? :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on October 15, 2017, 02:00:32 AM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

One day I hope to meet a girl who says "choke me like Higuain chokes in front of goal"...

go home, you're drunk!

oh wait, you might already home

and drunk?

and totally worth it gimme that damn glass would you!!!! :beer:

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ArmLaziale on October 15, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
I CAN'T F*CKING WAIT FOR THE MEDIA TO CRUCIFY BLOODY HIGUAIN LIKE THE TERRIBLE CHOKER THAT HE ALWAYS WAS

One day I hope to meet a girl who says "choke me like Higuain chokes in front of goal"...

 :wow:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on October 15, 2017, 10:44:58 PM
What a soft penalty for Inter in the 90th minute
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 15, 2017, 11:51:46 PM
What a soft penalty for Inter in the 90th minute

Not a first and it won't be the last.  A draw would have been ideal for the table.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on October 16, 2017, 01:07:31 AM
Real test for them us comming up, Napoli away wont be as easy.
Have they played any derby this year so far?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on October 16, 2017, 11:38:18 AM
Inter under Spaletti looks pretty good, I must say. Now both Inter and Napoli won against Merda away.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 16, 2017, 08:06:20 PM
Just watched the extended highlights.  Inter is organized but not good, all they have are the rushes from Candreva & Perisic on the wings and Icardi popping up at the right time.  Milan's defence was simply awfull and Bonucci the worst one in fact.  On the first goal Milan had 2 defenders on Icardi and they let hem move freely.  On the second Bonucci and Romagnoli stood free in the box and left Icardi alone behind them.  If you let Inter freely utilize their only strength it's rather normal this happens.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on October 16, 2017, 08:08:10 PM
Just watched the extended highlights.  Inter is organized but not good, all they have are the rushes from Candreva & Perisic on the wings and Icardi popping up at the right time.  Milan's defence was simply awfull and Bonucci the worst one in fact.  On the first goal Milan had 2 defenders on Icardi and they let hem move freely.  On the second Bonucci and Romagnoli stood free in the box and left Icardi alone behind them.  If you let Inter freely utilize their only strength it's rather normal this happens.

Plus Icardi's first two goals were mishits  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 16, 2017, 08:10:23 PM
Just watched the extended highlights.  Inter is organized but not good, all they have are the rushes from Candreva & Perisic on the wings and Icardi popping up at the right time.  Milan's defence was simply awfull and Bonucci the worst one in fact.  On the first goal Milan had 2 defenders on Icardi and they let hem move freely.  On the second Bonucci and Romagnoli stood free in the box and left Icardi alone behind them.  If you let Inter freely utilize their only strength it's rather normal this happens.

Plus Icardi's first two goals were mishits  :supsmile:

That also yes  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on October 17, 2017, 04:05:34 AM
you know, the more I think the more significant bonucci to milan transfer was, its like killing two bird with one stone  :bravo:

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 17, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
Calgliari fire Rastelli.  Why do troubled clubs always fire coaches just before they play us. ... ?  :roll_eyes:
Ps, imo this is a bad thing, most teams uplift right after and then we always struggle, happened numerous times recent years.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on October 17, 2017, 06:28:31 PM
Calgliari fire Rastelli.  Why do troubled clubs always fire coaches just before they play us. ... ?  :roll_eyes:
Ps, imo this is a bad thing, most teams uplift right after and then we always struggle, happened numerous times recent years.

Yes, it would be pretty interesting with a stat!

Anyway good for us that we meet at the Olimpico and not Sant'Elia as that would give them some more to show in front of their own fans. Even though we don't have the Curva Nord at our side for this match.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Amir on October 18, 2017, 09:07:05 AM
Calgliari fire Rastelli.  Why do troubled clubs always fire coaches just before they play us. ... ?  :roll_eyes:
Ps, imo this is a bad thing, most teams uplift right after and then we always struggle, happened numerous times recent years.

With or without a new coach, we are capable of beating Cagliari at our current form.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 18, 2017, 09:58:10 AM
Can only laugh at such sackings.

You take an up-and-coming young manager who has proven himself in the lower leagues, he gets you promoted, keeps you up with complete ease, and then you lose a few games the following season and sack him.

And the manager touted to keep you in the division is someone who has had six season in Serie A, was sacked after being relegated at the end of the season on one occasion and was sacked before December on all five other occasions.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Dakiller961 on October 18, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
Can only laugh at such sackings.

You take an up-and-coming young manager who has proven himself in the lower leagues, he gets you promoted, keeps you up with complete ease, and then you lose a few games the following season and sack him.

And the manager touted to keep you in the division is someone who has had six season in Serie A, was sacked after being relegated at the end of the season on one occasion and was sacked before December on all five other occasions.

sometimes you say to yourself: who the hell runs these clubs, a 3 year old ?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 21, 2017, 09:15:31 PM
I had Sampdoria down as my surprise package for the season, to the point where I thought they could do an Atalanta. I think the quality of their team has gone unnoticed - they had Nicola Murru, Ricky Alvarez, Vasco Regini, Gaston Ramirez and Edgar Barreto on the bench today - all players who at one point or another would've been considered good signings for us.

I know we're starting to look upwards at Lazio, but there's quite a lot of competition below us.

sometimes you say to yourself: who the hell runs these clubs, a 3 year old ?

That's disrespectful to 3 year-olds  :vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 21, 2017, 09:26:28 PM
Guess lot's didn't expect much from Samp after we put 7 past them at the end of last season.  But they had a smart mercato afterwords and aren't lacking any motivation at all.  They surely have ambition to stay high up and maybe reaching for an EL spot.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue_sky on October 22, 2017, 02:38:04 AM
I am not surprised at all for Samp. They have great manager. He was linked with us previously. I will not surprise when Giampaolo become big club manager, maybe Milan
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on October 22, 2017, 01:32:25 PM
 Great match last night in San Paolo(great results also  :vcool:(.
 Great first half,very good second ....
 Napoli pressing was impresive. Handanovic stoped them.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on October 22, 2017, 03:50:41 PM
Lol Bonucci, what the hell are you doing.

Bonucci has been abysmal since he joined Milan, almost makes me think he's been sent there by Juve to fu ck things up. At least that would explain the low transfer sum  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on October 22, 2017, 04:03:52 PM
Lol Bonucci, what the hell are you doing.

Bonucci has been abysmal since he joined Milan, almost makes me think he's been sent there by Juve to fu ck things up. At least that would explain the low transfer sum  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:

I think he is trying to make Montella leave as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 22, 2017, 05:25:59 PM
Inter keeping resulsts, Merda snag another 3 points.  It's going to be very tight in the table, but that might change quickly after the winterbreak.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 22, 2017, 07:09:12 PM
Frustrating to witness merda win while playing terribly. I hate Kolarov more and more, disgusting to watch him celebrate in their shirt.

But most frustrating of all was to see this Sadiq fella play. What a completely, utterly useless striker. His long legs and arms were everywhere, but never under control. His timing was way off and he were offside most of the game. A total joke!


Loooooool. Udinese really needs to practice defensive set pieces. Amateurish.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 22, 2017, 07:23:26 PM
Pfffff weakass Udinese let Juve overpower them and score twice after the break with 10 men.   :roll_eyes:

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4 times, they let them score 4 times with 10 over 45min.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: valdanito on October 22, 2017, 07:59:05 PM
Really disappointed with both udinese and genoa today.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 22, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
Really disappointed with both udinese and genoa today.

Yes they neglected to push trough completely, damn shame.

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5 red cards in 7 games today so far ............  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on October 23, 2017, 05:30:00 PM
 Ex Lazio players gives 3 points to merda. Stupid foul of De Silvestri(seems like he will never grow up) and great goal from kolarov.
 Bonucci was one of the best defensive players in world just becouse he played at juve alongside Chiellini-Barzagli-Buffon(who knows how to command) in 3 men defense with two good back-up wingers (Lichty-Sandro....) with Khedira(Vidal before) as the DM.....simy his transfer just showed his true value-example : he was never a Chiellini level players.
 Or just lock him in Ventura NT with four man defense....
 Inter and Napoli stayed unbeaten teams in league.
 Benveneto isnt serie-a material.
 Fiorentina gets back after bad start.
 Btw Torino have a very good team but it was bored to lock ex merda players how plays noninteresting for Toro in this match(Ljajic was juzt a spectator in team,Sadiq also (with all of his nonquality's) played strange....Niang didnt pass to them in some situations(I wasnt surprised....he try atleast).
 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on October 23, 2017, 09:48:25 PM
You need to be in complete and utter shambles to concede four goals with player up. It's Udinese and would be happy to see them in B, but still...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 24, 2017, 03:31:31 PM
Berlusconi coming out and saying Milan have financial troubles and pointing out that if it does change hands to the vulture fund, whoever buys it off them wouldn't have to pay much.

Because it's going to be you Silvio, isn't it? :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on October 24, 2017, 03:34:59 PM
Berlusconi coming out and saying Milan have financial troubles and pointing out that if it does change hands to the vulture fund, whoever buys it off them wouldn't have to pay much.

Because it's going to be you Silvio, isn't it? :whistle:

Which brings us back to our discussion in the summer...and a lot faster than I thought... :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Dakiller961 on October 24, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
Berlusconi coming out and saying Milan have financial troubles and pointing out that if it does change hands to the vulture fund, whoever buys it off them wouldn't have to pay much.

Because it's going to be you Silvio, isn't it? :whistle:

Which brings us back to our discussion in the summer...and a lot faster than I thought... :supsmile:

if this really happen, shouldn't the Italian fiscal authorities investigate... FFS we all saw it coming !
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on October 24, 2017, 03:50:03 PM
Berlusconi coming out and saying Milan have financial troubles and pointing out that if it does change hands to the vulture fund, whoever buys it off them wouldn't have to pay much.

Because it's going to be you Silvio, isn't it? :whistle:

Which brings us back to our discussion in the summer...and a lot faster than I thought... :supsmile:

if this really happen, shouldn't the Italian fiscal authorities investigate... FFS we all saw it coming !

Don't think it's illegal but I'm no expert.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 24, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
Zamaprini 'sold' Palermo, then it turned out the buyer didn't have the money, so Zamparini came back.

It's different in Milan's situation because the Chinese investors did a deal with Elliott so it goes to Elliott if the money doesn't come through, but you're in a situation then where Berlusconi could buy back Milan for a bit more than he sold it for but with a vastly improved and more valuable team, or Elliott could sell off all the players, sell to Berlusconi and then the financial health of Milan is much improved.

The reason I've speculated that Berlusconi could come back is because there are ways he can benefit from this whole sale arrangement. But I don't understand the arrangement so I don't know. But I find his comments interesting.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on October 24, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
Italian general election are in May 2018.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Boksic on October 24, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
Inter are looking very strong. They have outplayed Samp effortlessly.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on October 25, 2017, 08:13:34 AM
Inter are looking very strong. They have outplayed Samp effortlessly.

And still risked to get caught in three goals lead in closing minutes. I know that people see Inda as conteder for Scudetto, but I still think they need to face teams that will actually try to lock better in defense, give them the ball and that's where (I think) both Inda and Spaletti may burn out. Benevento were on brinks to took point(s) from them, at Bologna they sucked big time, in first hour against pepperoni they were mess and may thank Icardi's moments of brillance and Eusebbbio's shortages as tactician - not their exact football as team. Plus, think that they're one injury away from total calamity in defense, but also upfront.

See lot of similarities with Mancini's return season and Spaletti have had similar paths as Mancini in his career. Because of that would be cautious.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: emhad on October 25, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
Inter are looking very strong. They have outplayed Samp effortlessly.

Weird to see they always win slightly and luckily.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 25, 2017, 11:52:51 AM
I know that people see Inda as conteder for Scudetto, but I still think they need to face teams that will actually try to lock better in defense, give them the ball and that's where (I think) both Inda and Spaletti may burn out.

The tactics Inter are employing is of another era. Centre-forward that stands still while guy on the right whips balls into him all night long while everyone else but Perisic sits in position.

Kind of think that gets figured out sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on October 25, 2017, 09:53:21 PM
Merda was given a non existent penalty  :sevil:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 25, 2017, 10:56:41 PM
Merda was given a non existent penalty  :sevil:

Typical, they will get enough help to be able to combine Serie A with CL.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on October 25, 2017, 11:23:11 PM
Why Inter is given 2 extra days rest? :sevil:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue_sky on October 26, 2017, 02:05:07 AM
Just realized Biglia was Captain when match vs Chievo.
And just wondering to people who had asked Biglia Captaincy during period in our team
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on October 26, 2017, 02:21:02 AM
Just realized Biglia was Captain when match vs Chievo.
And just wondering to people who had asked Biglia Captaincy during period in our team


what to wonder?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on October 26, 2017, 03:50:25 AM
 "Ascoli ultras released a statement ahead of their Serie B match tonight insisting they will “boycott” the minute’s silence and only enter the stadium after it has been completed.

“We do not want to be complicit with this piece of media theatre that forgets those affected by earthquakes and our elderly population, but is always ready to be indignant and politicise a dozen stickers.”

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Leaked audio reveals Lazio President Claudio Lotito sighing “let’s just get on with this charade” ahead of his visit to a Roman synagogue.


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Now before you yell at me dear admin, if I may please guide where to discuss this?, I mean yes everybody agree that there's no room for racism in this millennium let alone in football, but really, imho thing do get blown out of proportion when it comes to anti-semit issue
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on October 26, 2017, 12:58:34 PM
Why does every Serie A ladder, including on the official league website, show Juve in 3rd and Lazio 4th?

Head-to-head points should have us above them, unless there is something I'm missing here.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 26, 2017, 01:03:18 PM
Why does every Serie A ladder, including on the official league website, show Juve in 3rd and Lazio 4th?

Head-to-head points should have us above them, unless there is something I'm missing here.

Could be wrong, but I think goal difference separates teams until they've played each other twice, at which point head-to-head record is clear and can be taken into account. Don't quote me though.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: emhad on October 26, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
Why does every Serie A ladder, including on the official league website, show Juve in 3rd and Lazio 4th?

Head-to-head points should have us above them, unless there is something I'm missing here.

Head-to-head is at the end of the season, while goal difference works in the process.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue_sky on October 26, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Just realized Biglia was Captain when match vs Chievo.
And just wondering to people who had asked Biglia Captaincy during period in our team


what to wonder?
Some said lack of leadership, weak Captain coz crying in front of people, and many things related to capability of being Captain.
While Milan gave Captaincy for the first recruitment players as such Biglia and no issue about it on the contrary some Lazio fan, he lack of Captaincy ability
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 26, 2017, 02:07:14 PM
Some said lack of leadership, weak Captain coz crying in front of people, and many things related to capability of being Captain.
While Milan gave Captaincy for the first recruitment players as such Biglia and no issue about it on the contrary some Lazio fan, he lack of Captaincy ability

If you look at the team they put out last night, giving the armband to Biglia made sense. The next best option was either Suso or Romagnoli.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: torsten on October 26, 2017, 02:10:38 PM
Some said lack of leadership, weak Captain coz crying in front of people, and many things related to capability of being Captain.
While Milan gave Captaincy for the first recruitment players as such Biglia and no issue about it on the contrary some Lazio fan, he lack of Captaincy ability

If you look at the team they put out last night, giving the armband to Biglia made sense. The next best option was either Suso or Romagnoli.

Perfect, Romagnoli to Lazio will be done in the summer  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue_sky on October 26, 2017, 03:48:50 PM
Some said lack of leadership, weak Captain coz crying in front of people, and many things related to capability of being Captain.
While Milan gave Captaincy for the first recruitment players as such Biglia and no issue about it on the contrary some Lazio fan, he lack of Captaincy ability

If you look at the team they put out last night, giving the armband to Biglia made sense. The next best option was either Suso or Romagnoli.
As far as they're capable of, why not. But the thing that I wanna highlight Captaincy in Lazio for some fan is always an issue of status quo whether he should be Italian, having longest in our shirts.
The good thing, Lazio Management think otherwise
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on October 28, 2017, 06:52:43 PM
Commentators criticising biglia
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on October 28, 2017, 07:02:26 PM
Rightly so, Milan center midfield is horrible in this match. Goal situation Biglia and Kessie offered Dybala as much free field he wanted...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on October 28, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
Subbed in the 60th
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on October 28, 2017, 07:41:54 PM
Biglia has been nothing short of rubbish so far for Milan and I'm not talking about tonight, but so far in the Serie A.

Maybe he really meant this?

Milan - Lucas Biglia risponde ad un tifoso " FORZA LAZIO " 16/07/2017 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERszOmr3J4k#)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on October 28, 2017, 07:57:46 PM
Nice to see pipita choking against us but being on fire against Milan  :fingerup:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on October 28, 2017, 08:02:45 PM
Some said lack of leadership, weak Captain coz crying in front of people, and many things related to capability of being Captain.
While Milan gave Captaincy for the first recruitment players as such Biglia and no issue about it on the contrary some Lazio fan, he lack of Captaincy ability

If you look at the team they put out last night, giving the armband to Biglia made sense. The next best option was either Suso or Romagnoli.
As far as they're capable of, why not. But the thing that I wanna highlight Captaincy in Lazio for some fan is always an issue of status quo whether he should be Italian, having longest in our shirts.
The good thing, Lazio Management think otherwise

I dont understand your point but since you brought this up n Abate was the captain instead of Biglia in the game vs Juve, do I also need to wonder now?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on October 28, 2017, 08:20:15 PM
People were against Biglia's captaincy because he never said anything definite regarding his contract situation with Lazio.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 28, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
Biglia has been nothing short of rubbish so far for Milan and I'm not talking about tonight, but so far in the Serie A.

All he cares about is to be good enough to get into the Argentina squad, he lives for that.  Clubfootball is a paycheck and if Inter would have been the interested party and offered the financial improvement he would be there now. 

He didn't care about the 'Milan project', wich player would have seen something in that.  Bonucci just wanted out of Juve and Milan were the only one in Italy ready to pay his wages, he said so himself.  Borini just wanted to return to Italy and Milan offered to pay his demanded wage.  Calhanoglu just wanted a club to pay 20mill and get him out of Leverkusen.  Kalinic wanted a bigger wage, simple.  Like i said during the summer Kessié was the only real sensible transfer they did.  All the rest are mercenaries and runaways.

I'm still gloating that we got Leiva instead for like a 4th of Biglia's selling price...  :bravo:   :sciarpa05:

One could argue that was the best piece of business from Lotito so far.  We got Luis Alberto to replace Candreva also, but Candreva is clearly of more worth to Inter then Biglia is to Milan.

Can't wait to see who eventually replaces Hoedt, but let's say for now it's Luiz Felipe and that would already satisfy me.

Nice to see pipita choking against us but being on fire against Milan  :fingerup:

Yeah that really makes my day also, shows the difference between the commitment of our team and Milan's.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 29, 2017, 04:05:50 PM
For once Napoli is in much lesser doing Sassuolo starts making owngoals en errors ....  :roll_eyes:

We have officially moved passed Juve today, same results but a better goal tally.   :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 29, 2017, 05:00:45 PM
Big day for the relegation zone.

In direct confrontation SPAL beats Genoa.  And to tip that Crotone has beaten Fiorentina putting Genoa in an even worse position.  These results today could become very important later on.

SPAL vs Genoa  1-0

Crotone vs Fiorentina  2-1
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on October 29, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
When you look at the players Genoa has, I have no idea why they look like a relegation side again this season..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 29, 2017, 05:09:10 PM
When you look at the players Genoa has, I have no idea why they look like a relegation side again this season..

They relegate and then we take over Laxalt & Izzo cheap.   :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 29, 2017, 05:17:05 PM
When you look at the players Genoa has, I have no idea why they look like a relegation side again this season..

I tipped them for the drop and it's on the basis that they haven't got a particularly good squad and haven't got a manager suited to their needs.

Look at the team today.

They have Luca Rigoni, who is almost 33 and was nothing special to begin with, and a player plucked from Benfica's reserves known for having a terrible attitude tasked with supplying Lapadula, who I like but who lacks experience at this level and will need to be carried to some extent. The first options off the bench are Pandev, who simply doesn't belong at this level anymore and a 16 year-old.

Behind them, you have Omeonga plucked from Serie B and Rosi who they've been loaning out to relegation battlers for a few years. Bertolacci's career is in freefall. There's nothing more promising on the bench.

They have a goalkeeper and defence they can build on, but the rest of their team looks as weak as anyone on paper. For example, SPAL have three players who are more than capable of scoring double figures in this league; Genoa can't boast that.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on October 29, 2017, 05:56:01 PM
Add Preziosi into mix, with his ability to does one good thing followed with two bad things, traditional winter chaos mercato and stories of sale.

They have everything to go down, together with Benevento, but their will be serious dogfight this season - Sassuolo are more than ready to go down, Hellas might have enought to save asses if they change from Pecchia to Guidolin or Reja, Cagliari also don't have much better future, while teams like SPAL and Crotone just do what they must to stay up - winning points at home.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 29, 2017, 05:57:35 PM
For once Napoli is in much lesser doing Sassuolo starts making owngoals en errors ....  :roll_eyes:

We have officially moved passed Juve today, same results but a better goal tally.   :bravo:

Juve still have better goal difference  :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 29, 2017, 06:19:38 PM
They have everything to go down, together with Benevento, but their will be serious dogfight this season - Sassuolo are more than ready to go down, Hellas might have enought to save asses if they change from Pecchia to Guidolin or Reja, Cagliari also don't have much better future, while teams like SPAL and Crotone just do what they must to stay up - winning points at home.

Add Udinese to those seven teams and I think those are the relegation candidates.

Normally I wouldn't worry about a team with 12 points and 18 goals in 11 games, but they've sold Thereau and a missed penalty gifted them three points today while they've won two games largely because an opposition player was sent off before HT.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioKosovo on October 29, 2017, 08:58:12 PM
Unfortunately, we have two faces od Serie A. The better side is that (for now)there are five teams that will decide between each other the fate of, well, each other  :razz:, or with other words there is no more single horse race and we have the ugly side of 6-7 very weak teams. Luckily for them there is Beneventi as 99% Serie B team (already). Also, the mid-table teams are not strong. Therefore, the gap between first 5-6 and the rest will be big.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 29, 2017, 09:34:26 PM
Juric might be in trouble with his job at risk at Genoa but i'm certain Mihajlovic is also if he doesn't win tonight.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on October 29, 2017, 10:04:27 PM
I'd love Genoa and Udinese to go down... :supsmile: Chievo can f*ck off too.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 29, 2017, 11:09:07 PM
I'd love Genoa and Udinese to go down... :supsmile: Chievo can f*ck off too.

Genoa certainly my pick to, i'd love to finally see them go down.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Caput Mundi on October 30, 2017, 09:16:07 AM
Sassuolo please.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 30, 2017, 07:45:55 PM
People are starting to expect a lot, throwing stuff like this online. 
Seems our Scudetto squad had lesser results at this time.

(https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22861470_1549122468459122_2402834258378967230_o.jpg?oh=04d776295e2a65db581a00669630c153&oe=5A667258)

Of course i'm thinking about it to, who of us isn't, but it's a bit to soon imo.

 :stendvl:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on October 30, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
People are starting to expect a lot, throwing stuff like this online. 
Seems our Scudetto squad had lesser results at this time.

(https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22861470_1549122468459122_2402834258378967230_o.jpg?oh=04d776295e2a65db581a00669630c153&oe=5A667258)

Of course i'm thinking about it to, who of us isn't, but it's a bit to soon imo.

 :stendvl:

The shorts are clearly tighter nowadays!  :rolley:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on October 30, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
No one else is dropping points so I don't see it yet.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 30, 2017, 09:44:40 PM
No one else is dropping points so I don't see it yet.

Situation is very different then back then, competition will be much much tighter.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on October 30, 2017, 10:39:47 PM
Icardi didn't touch ball for entire evening, literally.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on October 30, 2017, 10:56:22 PM
Icardi didn't touch ball for entire evening, literally.

Another lousy Inter performance, another 3 points .....  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on October 31, 2017, 01:22:57 AM
Icardi didn't touch ball for entire evening, literally.

Another lousy Inter performance, another 3 points .....  :roll_eyes:

Amazing that Inter and Roma are so close to us when they have been playing so poorly (by comparison).
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on October 31, 2017, 09:24:23 AM
Why is De Vrij the only one laughing in that photo?  :supsmile: Did he release a fart?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cnon on October 31, 2017, 11:07:07 AM
That's the thing, the level of Serie A is even worse this season than it was last season. And I'm talking about the bottom table and mid table teams and how well they can cope with the bigger teams. And they can't, they just lose even when the bigger teams aren't playing well and they just barely get the 1-0 or 2-1 victories. This is why we need to beat other big teams in order to finish in top 4 because otherwise there won't be difference when everyone beats the lesser teams. And so far so good, we beat Milan and Juventus and the way we are playing at the moment, we should be favourites against Roma and Inter too.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Ljubo1 on October 31, 2017, 11:14:31 AM
That's the thing, the level of Serie A is even worse this season than it was last season. And I'm talking about the bottom table and mid table teams and how well they can cope with the bigger teams. And they can't, they just lose even when the bigger teams aren't playing well and they just barely get the 1-0 or 2-1 victories. This is why we need to beat other big teams in order to finish in top 4 because otherwise there won't be difference when everyone beats the lesser teams. And so far so good, we beat Milan and Juventus and the way we are playing at the moment, we should be favourites against Roma and Inter too.

So what you're saying is we Will win scudeto this year :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on October 31, 2017, 11:47:53 AM
Napoli and Lazio have club record points tallies for this stage of the season, Juventus have more points now than they did at this stage last season when they won the title, Inter have more points now than they did at the same stage of their treble-winning season, 1927 are on course to score more points than they have in any other season including title-winning seasons, Sampdoria have won 5 away games in a row for the first time since they were Champions of Italy.

Six teams are scoring points at a rate which suggests they are on course to win the Scudetto, only one will.

Lazio are the only team in the Top 5 to drop points at home to a team not played in the Top 5.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on October 31, 2017, 02:51:19 PM
Napoli and Lazio have club record points tallies for this stage of the season, Juventus have more points now than they did at this stage last season when they won the title, Inter have more points now than they did at the same stage of their treble-winning season, 1927 are on course to score more points than they have in any other season including title-winning seasons, Sampdoria have won 5 away games in a row for the first time since they were Champions of Italy.

Six teams are scoring points at a rate which suggests they are on course to win the Scudetto, only one will.

Lazio are the only team in the Top 5 to drop points at home to a team not played in the Top 5.

Made me intrigued to look at the upcoming rounds before New Years Eve to see any top 6 encounters, and it seems we at that time might see more of a hierarchy:

Round 13:
Derby della Capitale
Sampdoria-Juventus

Round 15:
Napoli-Juventus
Sampdoria-Lazio

Round 16:
Juventus-Inter

Round 3 (postponed match):
Sampdoria-Roma

Round 18:
Napoli-Sampdoria
Juventus-Roma

Round 19:
Inter-Lazio

So actually only two rounds of the next seven (eight if we count the postponed match) there aren't a direct encounter in the top 6.


 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 31, 2017, 05:35:15 PM
Don't know why you don't count the next round but merda, Inter and Napoli all facing a potential slip up.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on October 31, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
Don't know why you don't count the next round but merda, Inter and Napoli all facing a potential slip up.

Because I only checked up on the encounters between the top 6. As Cathal wrote all in top 6 are doing massive campaigns this season, so we might see the real difference in quality between them as they simply win against all other opponents.

That said - you’re right, they definitely have potential slip ups, I hope so, but I still believe they all will win.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on October 31, 2017, 08:08:15 PM
Don't know why you don't count the next round but merda, Inter and Napoli all facing a potential slip up.

Because I only checked up on the encounters between the top 6. As Cathal wrote all in top 6 are doing massive campaigns this season, so we might see the real difference in quality between them as they simply win against all other opponents.

That said - you’re right, they definitely have potential slip ups, I hope so, but I still believe they all will win.

I know you did, but you also said the next 7 rounds and included Round 19 which would be the next 8 rounds. Got me confused  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on October 31, 2017, 09:51:45 PM
Don't know why you don't count the next round but merda, Inter and Napoli all facing a potential slip up.

Because I only checked up on the encounters between the top 6. As Cathal wrote all in top 6 are doing massive campaigns this season, so we might see the real difference in quality between them as they simply win against all other opponents.

That said - you’re right, they definitely have potential slip ups, I hope so, but I still believe they all will win.

I know you did, but you also said the next 7 rounds and included Round 19 which would be the next 8 rounds. Got me confused  :beer:

Hehe, I’ll try to be more precise next time  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: emhad on November 01, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
That's the thing, the level of Serie A is even worse this season than it was last season. And I'm talking about the bottom table and mid table teams and how well they can cope with the bigger teams. And they can't, they just lose even when the bigger teams aren't playing well and they just barely get the 1-0 or 2-1 victories. This is why we need to beat other big teams in order to finish in top 4 because otherwise there won't be difference when everyone beats the lesser teams. And so far so good, we beat Milan and Juventus and the way we are playing at the moment, we should be favourites against Roma and Inter too.

And this season is much better to watch with 5 or 6 clubs dominate than other seasons which were called tighter with close gap between top and mid and bottom teams.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue_sky on November 04, 2017, 05:30:29 AM
Some said lack of leadership, weak Captain coz crying in front of people, and many things related to capability of being Captain.
While Milan gave Captaincy for the first recruitment players as such Biglia and no issue about it on the contrary some Lazio fan, he lack of Captaincy ability

If you look at the team they put out last night, giving the armband to Biglia made sense. The next best option was either Suso or Romagnoli.
As far as they're capable of, why not. But the thing that I wanna highlight Captaincy in Lazio for some fan is always an issue of status quo whether he should be Italian, having longest in our shirts.
The good thing, Lazio Management think otherwise

I dont understand your point but since you brought this up n Abate was the captain instead of Biglia in the game vs Juve, do I also need to wonder now?
You don't, because Abate was and will be Captain. But among new players up to 2-3 years players recruit by Milan, only Bonucci, then Biglia in row who are qualified. That's my point that you need to wonder
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on November 05, 2017, 02:28:52 PM
Inda dropped points at home.
As a matter of fact they were down one but managed to get back.

Now is our chance.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on November 05, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
Good work, Miha. 0-2 was really close when Obi missed free header but 1-1 is fair too as Vecino was maybe 2 cm away from dramatic winner in front of amazing 71k+

please, can we do at least 50k soon, its beautiful to see seats filled :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: kevlar on November 05, 2017, 03:21:36 PM
So Benevento took the lead vs Juventus  :supsmile: :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on November 05, 2017, 03:42:54 PM
Juventus match fixing again.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 05, 2017, 04:57:12 PM
Napoli choked against Chievo, Rube gaining on the top
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 05, 2017, 04:57:59 PM
2 of my 3 predictions came out.  Torino & Chievo held Inter & Napoli to a draw, only Violi let us down.

Chievo vs Napoli was destined for a 0-0.  Tomovic, Gamberini, Castro & Cacciatore had a great game.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 05, 2017, 08:27:18 PM
Juric sacked, Ballahat ready :D
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on November 05, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Ballardini already saved their asses twice.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 05, 2017, 10:35:42 PM
No favors from Sassuolo either. The quality of the league has gone to sh1t IMO
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Dakiller961 on November 09, 2017, 03:15:16 PM
Interesting study on CIES. top most valuable teams in Europe
Man City, Tottenham, Barcelona and Chelsea are top 4 with $1B+ valuation

it is basically the valuation of the squad itself

we are 23d at €309mil, not shabby at all, especially seing that it didn't cost Lotito 20% of that amount to build this squad

In Italy, it comes as per below

Juve 10th at €743Mil
Napoli 11th at €721Mil
Merda 15th at €595Mil
Milan 17th at €457Mil
Inter 18th at €445MIl
Lazio 23d at €309 mil

Our squad is young and gaining value week after week, I guess we should be in the top 20 coming end of season


Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 19, 2017, 03:30:03 PM
Ballahat already making a difference
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Ed on November 19, 2017, 04:07:52 PM
(https://dtpmhvbsmffsz.cloudfront.net/posts/2016/06/04/57539afb78b31c5a5501622b/m_57539afb78b31c5a5501622c.jpg)

 :winner: :bravo: :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on November 19, 2017, 04:46:46 PM
Well ****. Top 6 is hard fight this season. Sampdoria looking unbeatable home on this form  :what:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 19, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Fiorentina barely saved themselves, should be interesting in the next round.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on November 19, 2017, 06:02:10 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/business/dealbook/china-soccer-acmilan-ownership.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/business/dealbook/china-soccer-acmilan-ownership.html)

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 19, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
Top 6 is establishing itself clearly.  The rest of the season will now decide on wich spot they all endup.

Poor Benevento, twice before a point taken away in the last minutes.  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 19, 2017, 10:01:42 PM
Benevento became the team with the worst opening of the season in major leagues - 13 straight losses and taking away the record from, and you're not going to believe this, Manchester United from their 1930-31 season
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 20, 2017, 12:56:30 AM
How a clever man like Gasperini hasn't figured out to close down Inter's only treath is beyond me.  And others to, week after week teams let Icardi run free and get served.  He can't create on his own can't people see that, what's the harm in giving more freedom to Candreva, without an unmarked Icardi Inter can't win.

This one trick pony is now concidered a heavy contender to grab a CL spot.  It's nuts and said a lot the last weeks, many 'decent' Serie A teams have taken a step back in quality.

When we'll be facing Inter and our defence gives Icardi space i'll go apeshit .. :mad:.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on November 20, 2017, 02:09:05 AM
I think they all prepare for that, it is just that Icardi runs are very hard to block and his finishing style makes it even harder, he is top 3 poacher style goalscorer for several years already and Baldie have found decent balance between Icardi and Perisic/Candreva in attack. Once they find better options for midfield than aging Borja and ineffective Gagliardini they will be really hard team to beat.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on November 21, 2017, 12:32:22 PM
Delneri sacked by Udinese. Massimo Oddo expected to come in. That'll be interesting.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on November 21, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
Delneri sacked by Udinese. Massimo Oddo expected to come in. That'll be interesting.

Oddo is appointed now. Good for him to be back in Serie A, and probably at a team staying in the league, but I don't see this Udinese side as of more value then the Pescara side he left. But let's see what he can do.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on November 21, 2017, 07:04:46 PM
Oddo is appointed now. Good for him to be back in Serie A, and probably at a team staying in the league, but I don't see this Udinese side as of more value then the Pescara side he left. But let's see what he can do.

It struck me as a strange appointment initially, given Pescara were poor in Serie A last season, but I have noticed Oddo has gone out of his way to broaden his horizons and I see today he was quizzed about Udinese's multi-cultural squad and mentioned he's happy to speak English if necessary. I guess having a few languages in your back pocket might be an attractive trait in the modern manager.

I'm looking forward to see how he gets on. I predicted here years ago that he'll have an excellent managerial career on the basis that he's a real leader and his father managed in Serie A during the good old days. Would like to see it come to pass.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: emhad on November 22, 2017, 01:57:42 AM
Which team that has the alumni who become the coach the most statistically? Is it SSL? :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on November 22, 2017, 08:13:47 AM
Which team that has the alumni who become the coach the most statistically? Is it SSL? :supsmile:
You mean former Lazio players becoming a coach? Inzaghi, Oddo, Miha, Mancini, Brocchi, Simeone, Casiraghi, Di Matteo, Stam.  Sure there is more.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on November 22, 2017, 09:06:39 AM
Which team that has the alumni who become the coach the most statistically? Is it SSL? :supsmile:
You mean former Lazio players becoming a coach? Inzaghi, Oddo, Miha, Mancini, Brocchi, Simeone, Casiraghi, Di Matteo, Stam.  Sure there is more.

Conceicao, Almeyda
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on November 23, 2017, 04:49:53 PM
Which team that has the alumni who become the coach the most statistically? Is it SSL? :supsmile:
You mean former Lazio players becoming a coach? Inzaghi, Oddo, Miha, Mancini, Brocchi, Simeone, Casiraghi, Di Matteo, Stam.  Sure there is more.

Conceicao, Almeyda

Nesta, Makinwa
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: valdanito on November 23, 2017, 07:21:12 PM
Which team that has the alumni who become the coach the most statistically? Is it SSL? :supsmile:
You mean former Lazio players becoming a coach? Inzaghi, Oddo, Miha, Mancini, Brocchi, Simeone, Casiraghi, Di Matteo, Stam.  Sure there is more.

Conceicao, Almeyda

Nesta, Makinwa
Crespo, Sensini
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on November 23, 2017, 08:56:51 PM
Which team that has the alumni who become the coach the most statistically? Is it SSL? :supsmile:
You mean former Lazio players becoming a coach? Inzaghi, Oddo, Miha, Mancini, Brocchi, Simeone, Casiraghi, Di Matteo, Stam.  Sure there is more.

Conceicao, Almeyda

Nesta, Makinwa

tell me you're joking  :fingerup:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 25, 2017, 05:32:06 PM
Samp with both feet back on the ground.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on November 26, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
(https://dtpmhvbsmffsz.cloudfront.net/posts/2016/06/04/57539afb78b31c5a5501622b/m_57539afb78b31c5a5501622c.jpg)

 :winner: :bravo: :beer:

Lucky hat bring us joy today!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on November 26, 2017, 05:03:34 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/nBYErSZQwdKNi/giphy.gif)


Ballahat delivers!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 26, 2017, 05:37:55 PM
So predictable it's almost funny.   :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on November 27, 2017, 12:54:36 PM
Bye Montella

Rhino gattuso doenst have that much of sparkling CV's, but he did have Milan blood like, but then again so did Seedorf and Pippo
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 27, 2017, 12:57:30 PM
Mirabella and Fassone sent someone to fire him, they didn't have the balls.   :roll_eyes:

It's like dumping your girlfriend via textmessage.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on November 27, 2017, 01:20:25 PM
They also tagged him in the tweet announcing his departure. For some reason I find that really ugly..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on November 27, 2017, 01:24:11 PM
They also tagged him in the tweet announcing his departure. For some reason I find that really ugly..

Jeez that's simply disgusting.  Shamefull behaviour. :um_face:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on November 28, 2017, 05:51:56 PM
From horse to donkey.  :happy:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on November 28, 2017, 08:54:56 PM
So when do people think Benevento will pick up their first point? The 'De Zerbi' effect hasn't resulted in anything yet, but they definitely are getting closer a result. Would love it to happen on Sunday against Milan
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on November 30, 2017, 09:25:37 AM
Gattuso saying Forza Inter in chinese (at the end of the video)!  :supsmile:

Le Iene fanno dire forza Inter a Gattuso (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NjUVhqXielA#)

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 01, 2017, 07:11:02 PM
Two meters offside for 1927 and nothing, VAR confirms goal.

And then I read here comments about Caicedo - Pezzella situation...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 01, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Two meters offside for 1927 and nothing, VAR confirms goal.

And then I read here comments about Caicedo - Pezzella situation...

Yeah but 1927 is allowed that, Lazio not, you should know that aye ...  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on December 01, 2017, 08:37:36 PM
 2 meters offside...refeere waiting for Var.....merda
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 01, 2017, 09:45:48 PM
Which goal you mean was 2 meters offside?

The super soft red card is what we should be debating. They should scrap VAR already.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 01, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Which goal you mean was 2 meters offside?

The super soft red card is what we should be debating. They should scrap VAR already.

2nd goal offside and 'light' red card for Felipe. 
The last couple of weeks the refs agenda is becoming a little to obvious.  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on December 01, 2017, 10:44:32 PM
Juventus won't have an easier game all season.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 01, 2017, 10:44:45 PM
You mean elsharaawy offside on the shot leading up to the goal? He might be, but not 2m  :razz: Did they check VAR on the goal as well?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 01, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
I went mad and wrote 1 meters offside, but truthfully it was like half a meter, but obviously only one camera exist on that side of pitch and is bit 'angled' regarding second goal of cursed, so El wasn't in clear and visible offside, so Abbiso couldn't change decision. Ironically, that's only logical and right decision to press when you're in doubt - confirming previous decision to stand. Something we didn't saw from incompetent Massa last week.

Red card decision won't even comment. Was it that Parolo - Veretout contact was out of box and thus VAR can't be used? Or one rules for one round, another for other round? It's beyond ridiculous how arbitrarily VAR has been called until today.

Quote
Juventus won't have an easier game all season.

Barcellona Napoli won't ever learn.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on December 02, 2017, 12:01:09 AM
Why did Napoli and Juve play in their third kit tonight? Awful.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 03, 2017, 01:56:08 PM
Additional ref from distance of 1 and half meter doesn't see (pretty blatant, in my view) touch from Borini and instead giving goal kick to Benevento, awards corner to Mighty Milan after which MM took a lead.  :smile:

Caicedo - Pezzella contact was clear sight, of course.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 03, 2017, 01:57:34 PM
Additional ref from distance of 1 and half meter doesn't see (pretty blatant, in my view) touch from Borini and instead giving goal kick to Benevento, awards corner to Mighty Milan after which MM took a lead.  :smile:

Caicedo - Pezzella contact was clear sight, of course.

The additional refs are retarded.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 03, 2017, 02:07:03 PM
Additional ref from distance of 1 and half meter doesn't see (pretty blatant, in my view) touch from Borini and instead giving goal kick to Benevento, awards corner to Mighty Milan after which MM took a lead.  :smile:

Caicedo - Pezzella contact was clear sight, of course.

The additional refs are retarded.

They're incompetent, to be honest. Can't remember how many times in last couple of seasons I had saw additional who can't raise the flag for (obvious) offside because he decided to stop following last man in defense (of team who possess ball) and goes more up the pitch. Subsequently, attacking team lost ball and opponents on counter attack launch long ball to their forward in offside. Mr Incompetent can't raise flag because he doesn't see position of last man in defense and thus can't assume offside position.

Only because he's incompetent ref.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 03, 2017, 02:28:14 PM
Loooool Milan  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 03, 2017, 02:30:16 PM
Mighty Milan
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 03, 2017, 02:34:44 PM
Benevento's first point in Serie A, and it's against Milan.  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on December 03, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
Benevento's first point in Serie A, anf it's against Milan.  :beer:

That's really not the talking point  :vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 03, 2017, 02:47:02 PM
All that circus from summer couldn't end in different manner than this.  :razz:

(https://media-foto.tccstatic.com/storage/album/thumb1/cfd10099a53646d5eededb1a3bf8173f-98475-1511813286.jpeg)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 03, 2017, 03:02:11 PM
BENEVENTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 03, 2017, 03:09:57 PM
Cataldi with historic assist!  :beer: :laziostend:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 03, 2017, 03:39:31 PM
I could watch that goal all day
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: valdanito on December 03, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Inda top of the league.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 03, 2017, 05:10:26 PM
I could watch that goal all day

Quit a skilfull header by the GK i must say.   :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on December 03, 2017, 06:39:01 PM
This is beyond epic. And I expected Mila to be our direct competitor for the 5th spot  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 03, 2017, 07:18:25 PM
heheheh

(http://cdn.corrieredellosport.it/images/2017/12/03/151019226-9a0baf4c-c8db-46b8-b0d2-90c90934cd11.jpg)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on December 04, 2017, 01:33:11 AM
 Roma offside- no Var
 Alegri beat Sarri tactically
 Inter destroyed Chievo
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on December 04, 2017, 01:34:09 AM
 Benevento took first point
 Cataldi is the part of their history  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on December 04, 2017, 09:53:07 AM
Must say that I did not expect Inter to perform so good.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 04, 2017, 10:13:11 AM
Benevento took first point
 Cataldi is the part of their history  :supsmile:

Milan are part of Benevento's history.  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on December 04, 2017, 12:06:47 PM
Must say that I did not expect Inter to perform so good.

They are horrible to watch for the most part but they are very efficient so far.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: drazvan on December 04, 2017, 01:28:29 PM
Must say that I did not expect Inter to perform so good.

They are horrible to watch for the most part but they are very efficient so far.

Exactly. At this point I don't exclude that they have all it takes to win this. Most people would still bet on Napoli or Juve because they play better, but Inter have the luck on their side.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue-white on December 04, 2017, 04:58:12 PM
I expected before the season Inter in the top 3. We will see where they end. Biggest point for them - only Serie A!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on December 04, 2017, 07:55:34 PM
Giuseppe Rossi has signed for Genoa
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 08, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
My condolence to Crotone.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 08, 2017, 10:20:44 PM
 :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 09, 2017, 09:09:08 PM
Samp 0-2 in front at Cagliari, endresult 2-2 with Cagliari suffering injuries.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 09, 2017, 09:40:55 PM
Super boring first half Juve-Inter, 2 chances in 45 minutes

ended 0-0, rube fans keep celebrating Mandzukic but that dude is really often terrible with the ball at his feet
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on December 09, 2017, 10:49:21 PM
Juve the most offensive, but a draw was fair. Not a great match, but a goal wasn't unlikely. Was there a penalty for hands on Benatia in second half? I don't know the rules good enough, but he certainly stopped the ball towards goal, a penalty in my opinion.

Anyway, still seems we might have a tight Serie A this season with Napoli probably taking back the first place tomorrow.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 09, 2017, 10:54:10 PM

Anyway, still seems we might have a tight Serie A this season with Napoli probably taking back the first place tomorrow.

Napoli Soccer tomorrow win with 7 goals difference.  :happy:

Regarding this match, tight-fisted as always, Inda who didn't lost head finally but Juventus sterile. Everybody seems happy with draw, Allegri and Spalleti the most.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 09, 2017, 11:09:53 PM
Juve the most offensive, but a draw was fair. Not a great match, but a goal wasn't unlikely. Was there a penalty for hands on Benatia in second half? I don't know the rules good enough, but he certainly stopped the ball towards goal, a penalty in my opinion.

Anyway, still seems we might have a tight Serie A this season with Napoli probably taking back the first place tomorrow.

No penalty. Good call. Ball seeked the hand and not other way around.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 10, 2017, 02:24:26 PM
Sorrentino!    :bravo: :bravo: :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 10, 2017, 02:25:29 PM
Chievo  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 10, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
Let see which new rule will invent Giacomelli tomorrow.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 10, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
Let see which new rule will invent Giacomelli tomorrow.

He can suck my balls

 :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on December 10, 2017, 04:55:24 PM
None of the top 4 teams managed to score this weekend. A win against Torino and we're totally back in the race !
This makes the draw against Viola even more bitter but on the other hand it might be better for us to stay the underdog for a while.

 :stendvl: :stendvl:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 10, 2017, 05:08:51 PM
Let see which new rule will invent Giacomelli tomorrow.

He can suck my balls

 :offlag:

Now expect to see him tackling Luis Alberto couple of times.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 10, 2017, 05:14:35 PM
Let see which new rule will invent Giacomelli tomorrow.

He can suck my balls

 :offlag:

Now expect to see him tackling Luis Alberto couple of times.

 :razz:

With every other top team not winning it is going to be tough tomorrow. Looking forward to see Felipe again  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: inhocsignovinces on December 10, 2017, 05:16:15 PM
Top 5 all draws. We need 3 points tomorrow.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 10, 2017, 05:17:44 PM
Top 5 all draws.

Don't jinx, **** shit.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on December 10, 2017, 05:36:18 PM
Yeah, no need to mention it. We usually follow them, as usual. :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: inhocsignovinces on December 10, 2017, 06:29:56 PM
superstitions are gay and pagan. just get the three points.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 10, 2017, 08:07:39 PM
Just looked at the starting lineups from today and then it completely made sence why Merda didn't win or score.  SES - Schick - Gerson ....  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 10, 2017, 08:22:33 PM
Just looked at the starting lineups from today and then it completely made sence why Merda didn't win or score.  SES - Schick - Gerson ....  :roll_eyes:

Did you see your little favorite Mertens missing a clear chance? Shooting like a girl directly into Sportiello  :bravo:

And Gerson  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 10, 2017, 08:27:16 PM
Just looked at the starting lineups from today and then it completely made sence why Merda didn't win or score.  SES - Schick - Gerson ....  :roll_eyes:

Did you see your little favorite Mertens missing a clear chance? Shooting like a girl directly into Sportiello  :bravo:

And Gerson  :razz:

Hèhè no surprise for Gerson, and no i didn't see any highlights yet just the scores.  But the fact that Mertens missed the winning chance makes it even better.   :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 10, 2017, 08:47:40 PM
Napoli is completely out of form now and are lacking the fluid attack they normally have. Fiorentina were the better team, at least in the 1st half. Let's see how many points they will be able to pick up against Torino away and Sampdoria at home the next two rounds.

Juve and merda meet in two weeks and before that Juve with a Dybala out of form have a tricky away gae to Bologna.

Inter have two pretty easy rounds but if we keep our cool we'll set up a pretty sweet top of the table (kinda) clash against them on the 30th. I'd love to hand them their first defeat of the season. Too bad they don't have Melo still. Hopefully Savage can hush the Inter crowd in the end.

The league has been kinda boring so far with to big gap between top and bottom so it's nice that others can drop points still, keeps it interesting and I'm excited about the last rounds before the new year now!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 16, 2017, 04:27:17 PM
Just to signal penalty given for Udinese for handball by Santon, after ref Mariani called to see VAR.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 16, 2017, 04:44:41 PM
Wohoo what a 3rd goal from Udine, counter - 3 passes and bamm.   :sciarpa05:

Inter can't handle the 3-5-1-1, positive news for us.   :twinkle:

But it's a pity we didn't get to face Udinese when they were visionless, now they are getting structure under Oddo it seems.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 16, 2017, 04:59:55 PM
So referees CAN review and change 2 incidents in one VAR session..... :rolley:


Oh and epic karma for Inter fans who made fun of Lazio failure  :fingerup:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 16, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
Weird score since Inter completely dominated the match. but their defense was so so poor, just walking around casually
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 16, 2017, 10:39:48 PM
fuking merda scoring in the 96th
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: inhocsignovinces on December 16, 2017, 10:43:23 PM
Why were they given 6 minutes
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 16, 2017, 10:45:49 PM
Why were they given 6 minutes

You need to ask?

Anyway, now loser had won, we should have some chances to have normal referee who actually read rules tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 16, 2017, 11:20:46 PM
fuking merda scoring in the 96th

Un be f*ucking liev a ble  :sevil:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 16, 2017, 11:27:32 PM
fuking merda scoring in the 96th

Un be f*ucking liev a ble  :sevil:

Not to say that goal is on limits regarding regularity. If defender had handballed it on line and deviate to corner, would expect to see penalty and red.

But rules are different from day to day. From today is sure that 1927 may score even with hand.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Gianni Calcio on December 17, 2017, 01:20:02 AM
VAR-GOGNA, Serie A is such a joke!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on December 17, 2017, 10:02:55 AM
Not a very good season debut for VAR so far

wonder if FIGC still want to continue it next season  :vcool:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 17, 2017, 01:25:54 PM
Go Verona, keep it up ...  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 17, 2017, 01:42:49 PM
VAR intervented for presumed hit of Borini on Ferrari (ball was miles away), when Borini turned to Ferrari and sent one nice hit toward Ferrari's chin. Orsato was called to consult VAR and afterward issued - yellow.

Just to note.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 17, 2017, 01:49:57 PM
This is HELLAS!!!
 :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giolazio on December 17, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
VAR is a joke, but to be honest FIGC also need to take a long look at the level of referee they employ. It's still human error that's causing all the controversy, whether it's inconsistency on when to use VAR or inconsistency on the decisions made following VAR.

I mean, how could nobody notice Fazio handling the ball last night? It was clear as day. If I see that Borini so much as made any contact on Ferrari too and only got a yellow, I'm going to be very angry. 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 17, 2017, 02:20:35 PM
Milan   :what: :what: :what:

Gattuso  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 17, 2017, 02:24:04 PM
Milan   :what: :what: :what:

Gattuso  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:

Milan will end in Serie B sooner or later.

Quote
VAR is a joke, but to be honest FIGC also need to take a long look at the level of referee they employ. It's still human error that's causing all the controversy, whether it's inconsistency on when to use VAR or inconsistency on the decisions made following VAR.

I mean, how could nobody notice Fazio handling the ball last night? It was clear as day. If I see that Borini so much as made any contact on Ferrari too and only got a yellow, I'm going to be very angry.

'Inconsistency' is a word that best describe what AIA and FIGC created with VAR and self-imposed impunity that protects referees.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 17, 2017, 02:32:58 PM
Caceres very average again, three or four times ive seen Hellas this season their best player is always Romulo.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: blue_sky on December 17, 2017, 03:04:31 PM
Milan is so stupid to fired Montella.
and Gatusso?
What a stupid choice
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 17, 2017, 03:36:47 PM
Caceres very average again, three or four times ive seen Hellas this season their best player is always Romulo.

Didn't see the game but on some sites Caceres get's the 3rd hightest rating after Romelu and Carraciolo so he must have done something good.  He had to play leftback, still had the most succesfull tackles of the whole Hellas team with 4.  Seems he kept Suso out of the game.

He will never stand out in a game due to modest and riskfree style of defending.
Not promoting Caceres here but it's just something to consider since he's probably coming here.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on December 17, 2017, 04:21:21 PM
This VAR thing should be erased if used like this! I dont know if calcio is really corrupt or the people who run it are stupid. They made a lot of crucial changes like additional referees, goal line technology n this VAR thing, but they still make controversies. I mean just look at this VAR, the referee had all the chance in the world to see an incident again, even probably in slow motion, but they still make mistakes. I think they need a brain check!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 17, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
I just watched the highlights and Caceres made two huge errors that almost resulted ed in Milan goals. One very poor clearing and the other was lack of awareness in a situation that gave a Milan player a free shot at goal with only the keeper to beat.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 17, 2017, 04:29:18 PM
I just watched the highlights and Caceres made two huge errors that almost resulted ed in Milan goals. One very poor clearing and the other was lack of awareness in a situation that gave a Milan player a free shot at goal with only the keeper to beat.

Well that doesn't sound good of course.   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 17, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
Fiorentina can't even beat Genoa at home  :ohnoo:

Stupid Pioli cost me money. See you in Coppa you shits  :stendvl:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 17, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
Fiorentina can't even beat Genoa at home  :ohnoo:

Stupid Pioli cost me money. See you in Coppa you shits  :stendvl:

For me Samp... nice freak results weekend,if only we could take advantage :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 17, 2017, 04:58:33 PM
Fiorentina can't even beat Genoa at home  :ohnoo:

Stupid Pioli cost me money. See you in Coppa you shits  :stendvl:

Yes but Genoa now have Balla-power since recently ....  :twinkle
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 17, 2017, 05:03:37 PM
The whole Sampdoria rising is dimming down no seriously as expected.
3 losses and a draw in the last 4 games.  And today at home agains Sassuolo, shamefull.   :roll_eyes:

The gape is looking to be made in the table soon.  Top 5 is starting to stick out.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 17, 2017, 05:03:42 PM
Incredible handball (with both hands) by Torreira who defended the goal and VAR not even considered.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 17, 2017, 05:04:38 PM
Incredible handball (with both hands) by Torreira who defended the goal and VAR not even considered.

Week in week out, every ref decides wich rules to apply.   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 17, 2017, 05:08:42 PM
Incredible handball (with both hands) by Torreira who defended the goal and VAR not even considered.

Week in week out, every ref decides wich rules to apply.   :roll_eyes:

Now is completely ad hoc, they lost a compass entirely. VAR ref at Genoa was Tagliavento, another genius.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 17, 2017, 05:12:58 PM
Only watched low quality stream so thought maybe my eyes decieved me... seems not. VAR is what it is but how about referees agree something for handball so it wouldnt look like playing russian roulette without even knowing if there is one bullet in cylinder or only bullets and you will always lose when trigger is pulled  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on December 18, 2017, 02:39:28 AM
VAR should be used for all controversial decisions or it should not be used at all. Anywhere in the middle and we get results where Merda end up near the top after a very average season.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on December 18, 2017, 03:23:52 AM
VAR should be used for all controversial decisions or it should not be used at all. Anywhere in the middle and we get results where Merda end up near the top after a very average season.

problem is, the ref decide either he need to see VAR or not, that itself is controversial enough for any team that feeling the disadvantage 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 22, 2017, 09:40:31 AM
Odds that Bonucci run away during winter?  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 22, 2017, 03:37:25 PM
Odds that Bonucci run away during winter?  :supsmile:

To Conté most likely.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 23, 2017, 03:43:20 PM
ffs doria
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 23, 2017, 03:51:17 PM
ffs doria

Yep, afwull defending and a gift from Ferrari.  Napoli should be losing now instead of winning.   :roll_eyes:

But ....  Inter are behind against Sassuolo.  And somehow i expected a difficult game. 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 23, 2017, 04:18:03 PM
Even better, Icardi misses from the spot.     :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 23, 2017, 04:58:18 PM
Inter are seriously slipping, 1 point in last 3 matches, meanwhile Napoli are on fire
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 23, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Inter are seriously slipping, 1 point in last 3 matches, meanwhile Napoli are on fire

Totally expected from Inter, they couldn't keep winning with the game they deliver very often.

Samp should have done more today, they let Napoli come back to easily.
But i still have some doubt weither both the 1st and the 3rd Napoli goal was onside, and if Mertens didn't faul first leading in the 1st goal.   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 23, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
Another one from Cristante.  0-1 was my guess, big chance it ends that way to.
Great that he scored there after they got rid of him.

------------------------------

Hoho 0-2, measured assist from Gomez. 
Milan is so bad, they were better under Montella after watching this game.
Atalanta are toying with them, practicly walking around without wasting energy.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 23, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
Milan in freefall, beautiful to see, hate that club
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 23, 2017, 08:00:53 PM
On this rate, I would be very worried for Mighty Milan and security of Serie A place next season. If tifoso of Milan.



But I ain't, so don't give a ****.  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 23, 2017, 10:41:49 PM
Thanks Szczesny
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 23, 2017, 10:53:33 PM
Thanks Szczesny

And Benatia. Beautiful game! Poor Schick.

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/68d7/f/2012/176/3/c/youwilllose__by_misterzero-d54v1gr.png)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 23, 2017, 10:57:02 PM
"Better than Batistuta"... my ass.  :happy:

Anyway, before you hear romanisti to speak how Lazio are one to go away to Juventus already defeated - while they're fighters, of course - remember that Lazio had won more matches than 1927 in Turin during course of history. While playing less matches.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 23, 2017, 11:32:00 PM
"Better than Batistuta"... my ass.  :happy:

Anyway, before you hear romanisti to speak how Lazio are one to go away to Juventus already defeated - while they're fighters, of course - remember that Lazio had won more matches than 1927 in Turin during course of history. While playing less matches.

 :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 24, 2017, 12:21:15 AM
"Better than Batistuta"... my ass.  :happy:

Anyway, before you hear romanisti to speak how Lazio are one to go away to Juventus already defeated - while they're fighters, of course - remember that Lazio had won more matches than 1927 in Turin during course of history. While playing less matches.

 :offlag:

On other note, to me look like cigarettes and drinks started to take toll on Nainggolan. One of worst.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on December 24, 2017, 12:36:41 AM
Pretty sweet hearing that twat commentator on Setanta squeal like a pig when Schick missed that chance.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 24, 2017, 11:30:47 AM
Milan went in ritiro before the Atalanta game.
After the uninspiring loss they decide to give it up.  :wow:
Now they are considering bringing Montella back.  :what:

Priceless to watch.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on December 24, 2017, 12:07:57 PM
Im not sure what they thought was going to happen bringing in Gattuso. I guess that he would scare the players into playing better.

As a player I loved him, but as a manager he is terrible, he was bad in Switzerland, bad at Palermo and Pisa, a team like Milan is way out of his depth. He isnt helped of course by the players and the ambient there, but it was never going to work from the start.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 24, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
Im not sure what they thought was going to happen bringing in Gattuso. I guess that he would scare the players into playing better.

As a player I loved him, but as a manager he is terrible, he was bad in Switzerland, bad at Palermo and Pisa, a team like Milan is way out of his depth. He isnt helped of course by the players and the ambient there, but it was never going to work from the start.

So true.  Hard to believe a group of adult professionels at a club like Milan would make such decisions.
It's beyond comprehension to me.

Most of this forum filled with amateur footballappreciators (like myself) wouldn't even think to manage a club that way.
So it's insane to watch people who's profession it is and getting rich of it are handling things like that. 
It's criminal actually. :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 24, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
Perhaps Juventus won yesterday, but they're faaaar from perfect like two or three years ago.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 24, 2017, 04:28:53 PM
Perhaps Juventus won yesterday, but they're faaaar from perfect like two or three years ago.

Yes it was far from a convincing win.  We can beat them again at Olimpico when having a good day.
Or maybe in the Coppa final perhaps ...  :twinkle:     :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 24, 2017, 10:04:00 PM
d'Ambrosio and Miranda most likely out for next weekend.  We'll be facing an Inter in doubtfull form and with only one decent CB (Skriniar).

 :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on December 24, 2017, 10:14:37 PM
d'Ambrosio and Miranda most likely out for next weekend.  We'll be facing an Inter in doubtfull form and with only one decent CB (Skriniar).

 :sciarpa05:

They will also have one day less rest then us since they have Coppa derby on Wednesday. If we're serious about CL we need to go to Milano and beat them!

 :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 24, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
Thoughts of Ranocchia against Ciro...  :smile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 24, 2017, 10:46:25 PM
d'Ambrosio and Miranda most likely out for next weekend.  We'll be facing an Inter in doubtfull form and with only one decent CB (Skriniar).

 :sciarpa05:

They will also have one day less rest then us since they have Coppa derby on Wednesday. If we're serious about CL we need to go to Milano and beat them!

 :offlag:

After the loss of points against Torino and Viola that's required, and in these circumstances no excuses not to go for a clear win there.

Thoughts of Ranocchia against Ciro...  :smile:

When Ciro runs at him the ball will already be in the net before he's able to turn around.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on December 24, 2017, 10:52:25 PM
Thoughts of Ranocchia against Ciro...  :smile:

 :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on December 28, 2017, 12:16:56 PM
I wonder if Icardi’s pending/possible move to Real will distract him.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on December 28, 2017, 05:18:33 PM
 Inter played 120 min last night.
 We should use this.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on December 30, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
1-1   :stendrm:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 30, 2017, 04:46:41 PM
Disallowed by VAR!  Finally decision not in favour of Merda.    :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 30, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
Not offside? More like foul for block but this VAR is like mystery box in computer games  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 30, 2017, 04:55:20 PM
We should be glad with them losing 2 points at home against Sassuolo but to be correct they didn't deserve that point as Sassuolo scored the only legitament goal in the game.   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on December 30, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Winning at Inter would be huge.
So pumped for this game
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on December 30, 2017, 05:00:59 PM
Udinese in excellent form, Sassuolo also improving fast. Easy wins for top 6 not so easy anymore  :twinkle:
Even Benevento can start to dream a bit first time season, end of the year is time of miracles!  :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 30, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
We should be glad with them losing 2 points at home against Sassuolo but to be correct they didn't deserve that point as Sassuolo scored the only legitament goal in the game.   :roll_eyes:

What was wrong with the first goal they scored? I don't see anything in the replay..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 30, 2017, 05:12:19 PM
https://streamable.com/k67yb

Listen to the romanista commentator and how he has to hold back from getting angry because he has to sound "neutral"  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 30, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
We should be glad with them losing 2 points at home against Sassuolo but to be correct they didn't deserve that point as Sassuolo scored the only legitament goal in the game.   :roll_eyes:

What was wrong with the first goal they scored? I don't see anything in the replay..

Watched it over myself now and social media was wrong.  There was huge controversy after the 1-0 that it was offside but Perotti on the left did not participate in the attack at the time so the goal is legit after all.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 30, 2017, 05:21:30 PM
https://streamable.com/k67yb

Listen to the romanista commentator and how he has to hold back from getting angry because he has to sound "neutral"  :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:

So obvious none of them can hide it anymore.   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: badboyyy on December 30, 2017, 05:27:25 PM
It was a foul not offside for Roma second "goal"
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on December 30, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
It was a foul not offside for Roma second "goal"

Yes probably, that's what's going around.  I was watching from that part of the game but with real bad stream.  It looked offside as well but i didn't see a rerun.  Could be both though.  Anyhow it was disallowed, the most important thing.   :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: valdanito on December 30, 2017, 06:53:46 PM
It was a foul not offside for Roma second "goal"

Yes probably, that's what's going around.  I was watching from that part of the game but with real bad stream.  It looked offside as well but i didn't see a rerun.  Could be both though.  Anyhow it was disallowed, the most important thing.   :beer:

Foul or not he participated by blocking sassuolo player, hence offside. Correctly disallowed goal.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 30, 2017, 08:33:48 PM
Inter Lazio Candreva sputa al proprio pubblico (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5YOtTRUUxM#)

I wonder if Candreva is going to get into trouble for this..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on January 04, 2018, 03:57:35 AM
Miha got sack by torino?, what are torino's board expectation really?, scudetto contender??? :um_face:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 04, 2018, 11:41:59 AM
Miha got sack by torino?, what are torino's board expectation really?, scudetto contender??? :um_face:

Honestly i can't see them doing to much better either.  They are practicly on par with Viola and Atalanta and only lost 4 games.  I guess they are ennoyed with the 10 draws, giving away the lead much to often.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on January 04, 2018, 12:06:28 PM
The fact they've only won two league games in the last 3-and-a-half months - at home to Cagliari and at home to Giacomelli - is probably worrying.

Also, Udinese have gone from being contenders for relegation to Serie B to challengers for Europe in 6 weeks under a new manager. That probably gives every mid-table club some food for thought.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on January 04, 2018, 01:40:25 PM
let say Atalanta is the surprise package this season, yet they only two point away from torino

and miha still got his player support from what I read

I mean only if Torinos board expect them to challenge a spot in europe then I understand the sack
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on January 04, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
let say Atalanta is the surprise package this season, yet they only two point away from torino

and miha still got his player support from what I read

I mean only if Torinos board expect them to challenge a spot in europe then I understand the sack

But the board should expect them to challenge for Europe. They are an illustrious club established in the league for quite some time with the budget to compete for such positions. In Mihajlovic's time as manager, they have been leapfrogged by Atalanta and in recent times, Samp and Udinese. There's been no progress in those 18 months. If anything, they are in decline - they have 14 points in their past 14 games - three of which were handed to them by Giacomelli. That's relegation form and we're going into a winter break and there's managers available with better CVs than Mihajlovic.

Not saying I agree with the decision or that I'd have made it myself, but as sackings in Serie A go, this is pretty logical.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 04, 2018, 02:17:35 PM
let say Atalanta is the surprise package this season, yet they only two point away from torino

and miha still got his player support from what I read

I mean only if Torinos board expect them to challenge a spot in europe then I understand the sack

But the board should expect them to challenge for Europe. They are an illustrious club established in the league for quite some time with the budget to compete for such positions. In Mihajlovic's time as manager, they have been leapfrogged by Atalanta and in recent times, Samp and Udinese. There's been no progress in those 18 months. If anything, they are in decline - they have 14 points in their past 14 games - three of which were handed to them by Giacomelli. That's relegation form and we're going into a winter break and there's managers available with better CVs than Mihajlovic.

Not saying I agree with the decision or that I'd have made it myself, but as sackings in Serie A go, this is pretty logical.

That is a good point, after considering this it's not such a strange desicion and they did do reasonably expensive investing.  They surely expected to be competing close to 6th place.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on January 04, 2018, 04:55:57 PM
let say Atalanta is the surprise package this season, yet they only two point away from torino

and miha still got his player support from what I read

I mean only if Torinos board expect them to challenge a spot in europe then I understand the sack

But the board should expect them to challenge for Europe. They are an illustrious club established in the league for quite some time with the budget to compete for such positions.
In Mihajlovic's time as manager, they have been leapfrogged by Atalanta and in recent times, Samp and Udinese. There's been no progress in those 18 months. If anything, they are in decline - they have 14 points in their past 14 games - three of which were handed to them by Giacomelli. That's relegation form and we're going into a winter break and there's managers available with better CVs than Mihajlovic.

Not saying I agree with the decision or that I'd have made it myself, but as sackings in Serie A go, this is pretty logical.

oh okay, as I were saying, the sacking was more logical if europe spot is their primary objective from the start
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on January 04, 2018, 06:17:16 PM
oh okay, as I were saying, the sacking was more logical if europe spot is their primary objective from the start

It was. They kept Belotti, they sold other players and re-invested accordingly, and their transfer activity was praised. They were marked out as 'best of the rest' once you go beyond the top clubs.

I always think objectives are fluid. Now they've lost Belotti, you could argue EL qualification is unrealistic and they are where they should be. But Milan are nowhere and Fiorentina are the very definition of a team in transition and despite being so poor in recent times, 6th isn't far off.

And Mazzarri is, plain and simply, a more accomplished manager than Mihajlovic and making a run for 6th and EL seems realistic whereas with Mihajlovic, to me at least, it just didn't.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on January 05, 2018, 01:56:07 AM
oh okay, as I were saying, the sacking was more logical if europe spot is their primary objective from the start

It was. They kept Belotti, they sold other players and re-invested accordingly, and their transfer activity was praised. They were marked out as 'best of the rest' once you go beyond the top clubs.

I always think objectives are fluid. Now they've lost Belotti, you could argue EL qualification is unrealistic and they are where they should be. But Milan are nowhere and Fiorentina are the very definition of a team in transition and despite being so poor in recent times, 6th isn't far off.

And Mazzarri is, plain and simply, a more accomplished manager than Mihajlovic and making a run for 6th and EL seems realistic whereas with Mihajlovic, to me at least, it just didn't.

I will agree on everthing else but about belotti, they didnt keep him just for the sake of their golal, I think they also wait for the outrageous bid that havent come, yet
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 05, 2018, 10:48:14 PM
Simeoneee  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 05, 2018, 10:50:42 PM
5 points behind Inter with 2 matches in hand. Victory tomorrow and in the home match against Udinese puts us in top 4.

Inter sucked for the entire match, they've been awful for like a month now. Will be interesting to see how long their bad form continues..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 05, 2018, 11:36:19 PM
5 points behind Inter with 2 matches in hand. Victory tomorrow and in the home match against Udinese puts us in top 4.

Inter sucked for the entire match, they've been awful for like a month now. Will be interesting to see how long their bad form continues..

Yet they get another point, just like last weeks.  And they got 3 points on many other occassions with thesame performance.  It's a strength when you take points in bad matches also, that's how you contend.  Not that i'm believing in Inter, far from it. 

Makes you ponder about our game at San Siro.  Inzaghi had our boys double guarding players, maybe we had a little to much respect.  It's never a bad thing to grab a point there, but i kept feeling this week we could have done more if we fully believed.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 06, 2018, 12:24:02 AM
5 points behind Inter with 2 matches in hand. Victory tomorrow and in the home match against Udinese puts us in top 4.

Inter sucked for the entire match, they've been awful for like a month now. Will be interesting to see how long their bad form continues..

Yet they get another point, just like last weeks.  And they got 3 points on many other occassions with thesame performance.  It's a strength when you take points in bad matches also, that's how you contend.  Not that i'm believing in Inter, far from it. 

Makes you ponder about our game at San Siro.  Inzaghi had our boys double guarding players, maybe we had a little to much respect.  It's never a bad thing to grab a point there, but i kept feeling this week we could have done more if we fully believed.

I feel the same way. The only part of the game where I thought we didn't play good were the last 10 minutes. Other than that we were the better team.

Immobile wasn't up to it if you ask me, too much bad passes and mistakes. The only good pass he made was when Felipe missed that chance. And when you miss an almost open goal you can't win.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 06, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
It had started another era

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Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 05:18:05 PM
No Cataldi, another win for Bevenento.    :twinkle:

Balla keeping order at Genoa, kind of expected.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 06:16:19 PM
Now rooting for Atalanta.  Then we stay in front of Merda, we've scored 19 goals more then them.  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on January 06, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
2-0 ATALANTA!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
2-0 ATALANTA!

0-2, even better.  :twinkle:

Gotta respect that team.  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on January 06, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
Haha merda getting help by the ref. Red card?? C'mon... Next will be penalty for sure.

Atalanta we're so close to 0-3, hit the post and it bounced back on Alisons head and out  :rolley:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 06, 2018, 06:50:41 PM
They are gonna f*ck it up, morons
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
Haha merda getting help by the ref. Red card?? C'mon... Next will be penalty for sure.

Atalanta we're so close to 0-3, hit the post and it bounced back on Alisons head and out  :rolley:

Yep very close, damn shame.  Typical ref action to bring Merda back in the game, like many times before.
A 2nd yellow card for that (if De Roon even touched him, didn't see it clearly), hysterical.
Refereeing have been excellent again today ...  :roll_eyes:

Kolarov was looking for De Roon's leg.  A specific action to get him a 2nd yellow.
Typical Kolarov.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 06:54:00 PM
They are gonna f*ck it up, morons

Atalanta is able to do this, let's root.  Gasp should take of Cornelius and put Cristante to fill De Roon's gap.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 06, 2018, 06:57:21 PM
Money to be made on a 1927 penalty in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 06, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
Odds for two penalties of hounds?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 06:58:40 PM
Money to be made on a 1927 penalty in the 2nd half

Almost a certainty.  They'll get 1 giftwrappend penalty and score once out of play.

My bet is 2-2, but i hope not of course.

C'mon Atalanta ...  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 07:03:56 PM
Images going around of Kolarov blinking an eye to his teammates after the card.
It was a blatant dive.  Pfff, what a c*nt ...     :sevil:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 06, 2018, 07:14:21 PM
Here we go, already 1-2, bastards
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 06, 2018, 07:38:14 PM
Diving level of this pricks is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Biancocelesti on January 06, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
Wonderful start to this year 😃
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 06, 2018, 07:52:24 PM
Atalanta  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on January 06, 2018, 07:53:04 PM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/3o7buejfyaZPILMnXG/giphy.webp)


REKT!!!    :scarfup:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on January 06, 2018, 07:53:18 PM
Love the faces of the merda players :fingerup:
Kolarov is the only one playing in that team.

Saw supporters threatening radja out there.
Pricsless.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 06, 2018, 07:53:26 PM
What a pleasant Christmas Eve.  :stendrm: :stendvl:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 06, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
What a pleasant Christmas Eve.  :stendrm: :stendvl:

Yes, very nice.  :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 09:28:01 PM
Bravo Atalanta, great team really.  :bravo:

We win away 2-5, they lose at home 1-2.     :sciarpa05:

From now on we'll stay in front.

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Just checked the highlights to confirm, and De Roon didn't touch Kolarov.  It was a clear dive.
They don't attempt to play, they just seek penalties, FK's and target opponents already booked.

 :stendrm:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 06, 2018, 10:34:25 PM
Nothing new on Earth - referee still pushing Hunchbacks when things become inconvenient.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 06, 2018, 11:36:24 PM
Do you guys know why Cataldi was out of the Benevento squad again today? 2nd match in a row now.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 11:46:57 PM
Do you guys know why Cataldi was out of the Benevento squad again today? 2nd match in a row now.

Not on the bench even, can only mean one thing .... Tare sending him to a another club.
Rumour was that Pioli wanted him.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 06, 2018, 11:59:43 PM
Cagliari was robbed by yet another bad ref today.
Bernardeschi scored when the play should have been stopped and an obvious handball not whistled later.
Even Allegri admitted they stole a win at Cagliari, seemed like he was even a shamed himself.

The refs are the downfall of Serie A.

Napoli and Juve have now both been handed 6 points by the refs up till now, not even counting for Merda.
We have been denied at least 6 or more.  So that would show us competing at the top now instead for 3rd and 4th.
First 2 are already sold to Juve and Napoli.  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 07, 2018, 12:58:59 AM
I agree. We've known for decades that Rubentus are bloody cheaters, but I don't see neapoli taking the moral high road and admitting they are being helped by the refs.

And with all the possible help from the refs, merda resta merda
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: moody on January 07, 2018, 07:10:37 AM
Referees are really bought out by the big clubs by pushing them up and pushing us down. Luckily we scored too much to be undone by Tagliavento, but we can't do that everytime. If only we had fairness, we would possibly be 2nd already.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on January 07, 2018, 10:27:57 AM
Wow, cant believe what is going on with the refs this year in Serie A.
This is the most competitive season in a while, and refs are ruining it.
Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 07, 2018, 01:14:04 PM
Guilini (Cagliari); ' the var doesn't work during Roma and Juve games '

 :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 07, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
Matuidi wanted to leave the pitch last night following some racial chants. His teammates had to calm him down.

Grow the **** up. Bunch of spoiled cry babies.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: MMV on January 07, 2018, 03:41:22 PM
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Grow the **** up. Bunch of spoiled cry babies.
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I think it is about time people who turn to racial abuse grow up. They should challenge themselves and be more creative - there is plenty of things to give Rube schtick about.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: phantomm1976 on January 08, 2018, 12:59:41 AM
 VAR or WAR ?
 Seems that Var is only for helping the big teams.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 08, 2018, 07:55:33 PM
During Inter - Lazio, Gabriel Barbosa (with the idiotic nickname Gabigol) left the bench without permission after Pinamonte was used as sub before him.  He was returned ealry from Benfica because they didn't find any use for him either.

Today the 33mill purchase was given the 'Bidone' award, the golden bin.

 :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 08, 2018, 08:19:39 PM
During Inter - Lazio, Gabriel Barbosa (with the idiotic nickname Gabigol) left the bench without permission after Pinamonte was used as sub before him.  He was returned ealry from Benfica because they didn't find any use for him either.

Today the 33mill purchase was given the 'Bidone' award, the golden bin.

 :bravo:

I do love Brazilian players because of their flair, but many of them have no spine. As soon as things don't go their way they become emotional or act like drama queens.

Not saying there aren't good ones in between, but many Brazilian youngsters seems to have a gigantic ego and they aren't able to handle it when things don't go well for them..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 08, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
Maybe important for some members.  A few changes for kickoff :

 Serie A fixture changes [all kick-offs UK time]:

Week 22

Sassuolo-Atalanta - Saturday January 27 17.00
Chievo-Juventus - Saturday January 27 19.45
Spal-Inter - Sunday January 28 11.30
Milan-Lazio - Sunday January 28 17.00
Roma-Sampdoria Sunday January 28 19.45

Week 23

Sampdoria-Torino - Saturday February 3 17.00
Inter-Crotone - Saturday February 3 19.45
Verona-Roma - Sunday February 4 12.30
Benevento-Napoli Sunday February 4 19.45
Lazio-Genoa - Monday February 4 19.45

Week 24

Fiorentina-Juventus - Friday February 9 19.45
Spal-Milan - Saturday February 10 14.00
Crotone-Atalanta - Saturday February 10 - 17.00
Sassuolo-Cagliari - Sunday February 11 11.30
Roma-Benevento - Sunday February 11 19.45

Week 25

Udinese-Roma - Saturday February 17 14.00
Chievo-Cagliari - Saturday February 17 17.00
Genoa-Inter - Saturday February 17 19.45
Torino-Juventus - Sunday February 18 11.30
Atalanta-Fiorentina - Sunday February 18 17.30
Milan-Sampdoria - Sunday February 18 19.45
Lazio-Verona - Monday February 19 19.45

Week 26

Bologna-Genoa - Saturday February 24 17.00
Inter-Benevento - Saturday February 24 19.45
Crotone-Spal - Sunday February 25 11.30
Juventus-Atalanta - Sunday February 25 17.00
Roma-Milan - Sunday February 25 19.45
Cagliari-Napoli - Monday February 26 19.45

Week 27

Spal-Bologna - Saturday March 3 14.00
Lazio-Juventus - Saturday March 3 17.00
Napoli-Roma - Saturday March 3 19.45
Genoa-Cagliari - Sunday March 4 11.30
Milan-Inter - Sunday March 4 19.45

Week 28

Roma-Torino - Friday March 9 19.45
Verona-Chievo - Saturday March 10 19.45
Fiorentina-Benevento - Sunday March 11 11.30
Inter-Napoli - Sunday March 11 19.45

Week 29

Benevento-Cagliari - Saturday March 17 17.00
Spal-Juventus - Saturday March 17 19.45
Sampdoria-Inter - Sunday March 18 11.30
Lazio-Bologna - Sunday March 18 17.00
Napoli-Genoa - Sunday March 18 19.45
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 09, 2018, 08:22:56 PM
Cagliari will not be sanctioned for the rascists chants towards Matuidi.  The refs state they didn't here anything of the sort. 

Not that i'm hoping to see them sanctioned but it shows again that rule apparently only applies to Lazio.

 :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on January 10, 2018, 01:49:56 AM
On an Australian forum they have put together a best XI:

Alisson

Kolarov - Koulibaly - Skriniar - Marusic

Milinkovic-Savic - Pjanic - Allan

Insigne - Icardi - Immobile

Some interesting comments:

"Strakosha over Alisson just for his penalty save at Juve for mine."

"Right back was the only position I had trouble deciding, as there has been no real stand outs so far...ended up going with Adam Marusic."

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 10, 2018, 12:39:09 PM
Everything is opposite down under
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 11, 2018, 07:49:06 PM
Seems Inter are officially going after Rafinha (Barca).  This kind of stings me since we know (as Tare revealed) he had him lined up before Enrique arrived as coach there and any possible deals of the table.

Very interesting player, i hope they don't get him.   :twinkle:

-----------------------------------------

On another deal it's said Lisandro Lopez (Benfica) is scheduled to sign with Inter on monday.
Seems there desperatly needed CB is coming in.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: kevlar on January 15, 2018, 10:02:00 AM
That time of the year again  :razz:

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Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 15, 2018, 10:59:21 PM
I'm a little amused by the Napoli - Verdi situation.  Apparently the clubs agreed terms but the players is hesitating to move during winter.  He's taking the Giaccherini aspect as a warning for himself and is worried about getting playtime. 

He's not a young prospect, at 25 playing is important for him.  Smart kid for thinking this trough, more talented players should act thesame way before warming benches all over Europe.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2018, 10:19:24 PM
C'mon Inter you pussies, one goal .....
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 21, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
C'mon Inter you pussies, one goal .....

Icardi hit the post  :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2018, 10:25:08 PM
C'mon Inter you pussies, one goal .....

Icardi hit the post  :ohnoo:

Merda building up a wall now with their subs, hope it turns against them.
They have been stalling and diving ever since they scored, typical.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on January 21, 2018, 10:27:53 PM
Does the third team in Serie A qualifies for CL directly, or do the 3rd & 4th team both have to play in play-off?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 21, 2018, 10:28:39 PM
Does the third team in Serie A qualifies for CL directly, or do the 3rd & 4th team both have to play in play-off?

All top 4 teams go directly to the group stage..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2018, 10:30:12 PM
Does the third team in Serie A qualifies for CL directly, or do the 3rd & 4th team both have to play in play-off?

Only the 4th has to qualify still.  First 3 spots are in the groupstages as of this season.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on January 21, 2018, 10:32:40 PM
Pretty sure all four teams go into group stage. No qualification.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 21, 2018, 10:32:57 PM
Does the third team in Serie A qualifies for CL directly, or do the 3rd & 4th team both have to play in play-off?

Only the 4th has to qualify still.  First 3 spots are in the groupstages as of this season.

I thought all top 4 teams go to the group stage. Hmmm

also 1-1
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on January 21, 2018, 10:35:34 PM
Both wikipedia and Livescore has top 4 directly to group stage. Too lazy to check uefa.com though :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2018, 10:36:59 PM
Does the third team in Serie A qualifies for CL directly, or do the 3rd & 4th team both have to play in play-off?

Only the 4th has to qualify still.  First 3 spots are in the groupstages as of this season.

I thought all top 4 teams go to the group stage. Hmmm

also 1-1

Had it wrong completely, was on whoscored at the time and their table is noted wrongly.
It's indeed the first 4 places as of this season.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2018, 10:38:52 PM
Up yours Merda for trying to park the bus.  Vecino headed in surrounded by 4 defenders.    :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 21, 2018, 10:46:22 PM
Nice header, I jumped with joy on that one
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 21, 2018, 10:53:02 PM
Nice header, I jumped with joy on that one

Me to, it was like one for ourselves.

Ideal result for us, a draw was the best thing. 

Now to beat Udinese wednesday and Samp to beat Merda.

At this stage the club has to put the Serie A as a complete priority.  A straight spot into the CL has to go before the Coppa and the EL without doubt.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 21, 2018, 11:12:16 PM
Heart was hoping for some late stoppages header by Icardi, but will sleep good even with this scenario where inbreeds didn't win.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on January 22, 2018, 12:32:21 AM
Heart was hoping for some late stoppages header by Icardi, but will sleep good even with this scenario where inbreeds didn't win.

I am happy with a draw though I agree that Roma is closer competitor for 3rd than Inter.

Amazing that all those lost points against Torino, Viola and Roma and we are still in 3rd.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on January 22, 2018, 12:33:20 AM
Also, if Dzeko leaves who will Roma buy to replace or will they rely on Schick?

I think that this could make Roma a bit weaker.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2018, 12:46:33 AM
Heart was hoping for some late stoppages header by Icardi, but will sleep good even with this scenario where inbreeds didn't win.

I am happy with a draw though I agree that Roma is closer competitor for 3rd than Inter.

Amazing that all those lost points against Torino, Viola and Roma and we are still in 3rd.

Well we've swallowed double the goals our competitors have but we are also the highest scoring team of the league, hence our current 3rd spot.

I'm amazed that having seen a couple of Inter games recently that they are actually still competing so closely.  I watched the game to tonight and (altough i really hate to say it) Merda was the better team at San Siro. 

If they sell Dzeko and don't replace they are surely weakened.  EDF used to play with Defrel at point at Sassuolo so he might actually go with him and Schick as the 2 strikers.

I can see Samp beating them on wednesday and maybe even SPAL succesfully parking the bus against Inter next weekend, that would really put us ahead if we win ourselves of course.

I find it actually rather ennoying that we are playing EL this season now we are well placed in Serie A.
Hard to predict of course but we tend to never take advantage at the right times.   :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioKosovo on January 22, 2018, 01:15:21 AM
I said numerous times in this forum....Lazio is much better team then Merda and Inter,,,even under current circumstances (do not forget games against Fiorentina and Torino) Lazio will have at least 3 points more than former teams. Lazio has got by far best attacking record in Serie A,,, with the possibility to further improve on Wednesday,,,also by the look of the things, merda sell it or not their players, Lazio will certainly be third,,,,I am convinced that they know this, hopefully Inzaghi will be smart to rotate players in such way that we can achieve as much as possible in Coppa and Europa League....
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: christ_JM on January 22, 2018, 01:26:52 AM
I said numerous times in this forum....Lazio is much better team then Merda and Inter,,,even under current circumstances (do not forget games against Fiorentina and Torino) Lazio will have at least 3 points more than former teams. Lazio has got by far best attacking record in Serie A,,, with the possibility to further improve on Wednesday,,,also by the look of the things, merda sell it or not their players, Lazio will certainly be third,,,,I am convinced that they know this, hopefully Inzaghi will be smart to rotate players in such way that we can achieve as much as possible in Coppa and Europa League....

I agree that Lazio's form has been better than those two you mentioned over the course of the season.

Still, we have 18 games to go.

I believe that it will be critical to not lose the games against Inter and Roma we have coming up in the reverse fixtures.

If that happens, I think we have enough attacking quality to break down the Chievos etc that will cause Inter and Roma trouble.

We might even spring a suprise result in our very tough fixtures to Napoli and Juventus.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on January 22, 2018, 02:03:43 AM
I said numerous times in this forum....Lazio is much better team then Merda and Inter,,,even under current circumstances (do not forget games against Fiorentina and Torino) Lazio will have at least 3 points more than former teams. Lazio has got by far best attacking record in Serie A,,, with the possibility to further improve on Wednesday,,,also by the look of the things, merda sell it or not their players, Lazio will certainly be third,,,,I am convinced that they know this, hopefully Inzaghi will be smart to rotate players in such way that we can achieve as much as possible in Coppa and Europa League....

hate to be negative, but you know what our achiles's heel are and they did say defense win the tittle

yes we have awesome frontline, but cmiiw, by the end of the league, its head to head count first before goal difference in Serie A
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: BioHazarD on January 22, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/jan/22/lazio-find-value-in-simone-inzaghi-transfers-rise-by-different-route-serie-a (https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/jan/22/lazio-find-value-in-simone-inzaghi-transfers-rise-by-different-route-serie-a)
The Guardian with an article about us and the great season so far and praising us. It's good i suggest you read it :P
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioKosovo on January 22, 2018, 10:43:07 PM
I said numerous times in this forum....Lazio is much better team then Merda and Inter,,,even under current circumstances (do not forget games against Fiorentina and Torino) Lazio will have at least 3 points more than former teams. Lazio has got by far best attacking record in Serie A,,, with the possibility to further improve on Wednesday,,,also by the look of the things, merda sell it or not their players, Lazio will certainly be third,,,,I am convinced that they know this, hopefully Inzaghi will be smart to rotate players in such way that we can achieve as much as possible in Coppa and Europa League....

hate to be negative, but you know what our achiles's heel are and they did say defense win the tittle

yes we have awesome frontline, but cmiiw, by the end of the league, its head to head count first before goal difference in Serie A

I am not saying that we are there (I mean title race) but we are far better than Inter and merda. Yes, the defense, among other things, is a weak point. Luckily, our attack to some degree compensates the weaknesses.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 22, 2018, 10:54:16 PM
Juve scraping another 1-0 win.  Never the less, another 3 points.   :roll_eyes:

But since the scudetto is reasonably out of reach for us i would certainly be amused that Napoli misses it yet again.    :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on January 22, 2018, 11:31:28 PM
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Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on January 22, 2018, 11:45:31 PM
Same here, I'd rater see Juve win another one than a team from Serie D claim lo scudetto. It'd be a pure mockery of this country's football in my eyes.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: edo_shehb on January 23, 2018, 07:50:01 AM
I said numerous times in this forum....Lazio is much better team then Merda and Inter,,,even under current circumstances (do not forget games against Fiorentina and Torino) Lazio will have at least 3 points more than former teams. Lazio has got by far best attacking record in Serie A,,, with the possibility to further improve on Wednesday,,,also by the look of the things, merda sell it or not their players, Lazio will certainly be third,,,,I am convinced that they know this, hopefully Inzaghi will be smart to rotate players in such way that we can achieve as much as possible in Coppa and Europa League....

hate to be negative, but you know what our achiles's heel are and they did say defense win the tittle

yes we have awesome frontline, but cmiiw, by the end of the league, its head to head count first before goal difference in Serie A

I am not saying that we are there (I mean title race) but we are far better than Inter and merda. Yes, the defense, among other things, is a weak point. Luckily, our attack to some degree compensates the weaknesses.

lol I'm also not talkin bout scudetto here, to put it bluntly, CL / 3 or 4th place is our scudetto, and really its would be an amazing achievement with our leaking backline like this
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2018, 10:24:36 PM
Antonucci was about to head in unmarked and Dzeko blocked him with a high leg ....  :bravo:

15min to go, c'mon Samp.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 24, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
Aaand they failed, bloody Samp
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
Aaand they failed, bloody Samp

Completely unmarked pffff ......  :sevil:

But we still are 5 points ahead.   :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 24, 2018, 10:48:26 PM
I would prefer 6
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 24, 2018, 10:51:58 PM
God how I hate merda. How can anybody start to like that team, that I can not understand.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2018, 11:06:33 PM
God how I hate merda. How can anybody start to like that team, that I can not understand.

Don't know either what's to like.  The only reasons i've ever heard from 'fans' is because certain player(s) are there, never any good reasons like we can mention plenty of.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 24, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Why wasn't Kolarov showed at least a yellow for the handball?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 24, 2018, 11:27:31 PM
Why wasn't Kolarov showed at least a yellow for the handball?

Would seem normal to me to.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on January 25, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
Pretty dissapointed in Giampaolo. The only thing merda did in the second half was to cross the ball to the far end of the box where an unmarked player would get a chance. Surely Giampaolo must be able to spot it and tweak his defence.

Clear penalty and no freekick on Strootman in the incident before so I don't know what they complain about  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 25, 2018, 12:47:12 PM
It looks like Orsato learnt lesson or two after last years Derby.  Said after merda's dive in Derby that sometime things are going to be paid with high interest rate.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on January 25, 2018, 09:03:13 PM
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Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giosselino on January 25, 2018, 09:54:13 PM
Let's hope Sampdoria will win next sunday at Stadio Olimpico for the return match. And let's also hope we play just as well as we did for the first match versus Milan.

Why should everyone hate Merda ? Just because they are the media darling, favoured by the established power, whatever they or their so called supporters do !
On the other hand, we're the supposed bad guys, the rogues against the machine who refuse to do what we're told. And of course we're also supposed to be s (the media always associate Lazio to fascism) so we must be wiped out to make way for 1927 only.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 27, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
Genoa sold 16y old Pellegri to Monaco for 25mill + bonusses.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: campiador on January 28, 2018, 12:25:29 AM
Well it pains me to think we beat Chievo fair and square while Juve had them like this.

https://www.football-italia.net/116277/juve-gifted-win-nine-man-chievo (https://www.football-italia.net/116277/juve-gifted-win-nine-man-chievo)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on January 28, 2018, 01:23:29 AM
Ridiculous stuff from Cacciatore, his team-mates must be furious, and this guy Bastien - not the brightest fellow on the pitch tonite either.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on January 28, 2018, 11:31:59 AM
Just saw the highlights. What on earth was juve wearing? What was that colour? What do you call that kind of colour? It made me very very nauseous from a 4 min highlight video. How do they expect anyone can watch them for 90 min playing in that horrendous shade?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 28, 2018, 12:32:33 PM
Just saw the highlights. What on earth was juve wearing? What was that colour? What do you call that kind of colour? It made me very very nauseous from a 4 min highlight video. How do they expect anyone can watch them for 90 min playing in that horrendous shade?

It's  the color of my shit when I got sick.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 28, 2018, 01:28:49 PM
Ridiculous stuff from Cacciatore, his team-mates must be furious, and this guy Bastien - not the brightest fellow on the pitch tonite either.

Cacciatore went idiot-mode and got deserved red card.

But as I think Maresca did right to sent off him, I'm also sure that if Juventus were in Chievo's skin second red card wouldn't be even considered by ref.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on January 28, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
Inter...  :fingerup:
Pretty amazing how they cant hit any form, zombie team  :what:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giosselino on January 28, 2018, 02:36:19 PM
Just saw the highlights. What on earth was juve wearing? What was that colour? What do you call that kind of colour? It made me very very nauseous from a 4 min highlight video. How do they expect anyone can watch them for 90 min playing in that horrendous shade?
Let's call it persimmon green, but you're right in saying that it's ugly. As ugly as their new logo. In fact that jersey color matches perfectly the new Rube logo !
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 03:02:32 PM
Thanks to Spal!    :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 03:32:11 PM
Auch Viola, already 0-2 from visiting Hellas.  :roll_eyes:

Getting Pioli flashbacks, shivers up my spain for a second.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on January 28, 2018, 04:00:01 PM
OMG can't describe how I hate napoli. Damn lucky and disgusting. Verdi injured, Bologna own goal and then a supersoft penalty which is not double checked by VAR.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 28, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
Pioli    :wow: On other hand, those two points stolen by Massa, against Florentia hurt more than what Giacomelli did.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 PM
Auch Viola, already 0-2 from visiting Hellas.  :roll_eyes:

Getting Pioli flashbacks, shivers up my spain for a second.

1-4 now, ouch
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 28, 2018, 04:20:57 PM
Just saw the highlights. What on earth was juve wearing? What was that colour? What do you call that kind of colour? It made me very very nauseous from a 4 min highlight video. How do they expect anyone can watch them for 90 min playing in that horrendous shade?

It's  the color of my shit when I got sick.

Spinach shit  :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 04:45:31 PM
Pioli    :wow: On other hand, those two points stolen by Massa, against Florentia hurt more than what Giacomelli did.

For me to and for obvious reason.  We deserved a win but against Torino we were struggling, didn't play well.

OMG can't describe how I hate napoli. Damn lucky and disgusting. Verdi injured, Bologna own goal and then a supersoft penalty which is not double checked by VAR.

Typical Napoli won for this season.  The lucky win list is getting very long.
Damn sure hope Juve gets the better of them in the end.  It would be satisfying seeing them miss that scudetto again.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazioKosovo on January 28, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
I just saw highlights of the Napoli game,,,,,Koulibaly stops the ball with hand, not penalty, no red card nothing,,,,
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 09:25:27 PM
We can complain about Lulic' miss tonight but what for Samp fans about Zapata.
2 open chances at target and not even between the posts .....  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 28, 2018, 09:31:24 PM
Pfff and an easy penalty for merda, we would not get it
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 28, 2018, 09:31:42 PM
AND SAVED!!!!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on January 28, 2018, 09:39:28 PM
Pfff and an easy penalty for merda, we would not get it

We already didn't get it.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 28, 2018, 09:54:03 PM
Yep, and we will continue not getting them.
So far so good by Samp, they are really pushing and are the better team in the first 45, just keep it up you Doria bastards
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on January 28, 2018, 10:27:59 PM
grazie samp!!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on January 28, 2018, 10:28:23 PM
Gol gol gol gol gol
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 10:29:23 PM
Now not like last game please Samp, keep it up.   
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: LazialefromGhent on January 28, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
This matchday won't be so bad after all

 :stendrm: :stendrm: :beer:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 10:39:58 PM
This matchday won't be so bad after all

 :stendrm: :stendrm: :beer:

5min added time, i smell a 1-1.   :sevil:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Thank you Samp for saving my weekend.    :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 28, 2018, 10:47:05 PM
Viviano FTW

The whole stadium booing Dzeko  :sciarpa05:  too bad they have very easy matches ahead, but their season is basically over. They won the Scudetto in August but lost it before Valentine's day  :stendrm:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 28, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
That shit club dosen't deserve Dzeko, I hope he leaves for Chelsea asap.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 28, 2018, 11:05:17 PM
Viviano FTW

The whole stadium booing Dzeko  :sciarpa05:  too bad they have very easy matches ahead, but their season is basically over. They won the Scudetto in August but lost it before Valentine's day  :stendrm:

It seems Chelsea is possibly letting a possible deal slide because Batshuayi has suddenly been very convincing and wants to stay.  Dzeko was apparently already planning where he would live in London and Merda ready to accept the cash.

Fans booing their starting striker and the club ready to sell.  Ideal if the deal would collapse.   :happy:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 28, 2018, 11:07:41 PM
Yep that would be ideal, he is so terribly out of form at the moment and everything he touches turns to sh1t. Perfect for us :D
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on January 29, 2018, 08:13:16 AM
Dzeko was apparently already planning where he would live in London and Merda ready to accept the cash.

Fake news. Dzeko bought a house in Rome three months ago, wants to stay and specially his wife, so he is thinking if it is worth it to move to London, but I hope he realises that if he wants some more trophies, in Roma he won't get any. C'mon Edin, leave that shit club.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on January 29, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
Yeah he's your compatriot and you wish him all the best but for the rest of us this is a perfect scenario. He is a major cause for conflict between the fans and management, he's not scoring nearly as much as the last couple of seasons and this transfer talk is adding more fuel to the fire.
The worst scenario for us would be for merda to sell him for a large sum of money. That would be a win-win for them.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Giosselino on January 29, 2018, 02:56:34 PM
Paloschi's late equalizer versus Inter and Sampdoria winning over 1927 was completely unhoped for  :sciarpa05:
Now, we're still two points ahead of Nerazzurri and five ahead of  :stendrm:

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on January 31, 2018, 08:04:32 PM
Why Pazzini has left Hellas? Wasn't he captain few months ago?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 31, 2018, 08:13:40 PM
Why Mazzini has left Hellas? Wasn't he captain few months ago?

It's a sinking ship the Hellas that's why i guess. 
Bessa to Genoa, Caceres here, some rumours about Romulo, Pazzini now to Levanta. 

Cutting the bigger wages in the squad before relegating.  Pazzini wouldn't have been cheap.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on January 31, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
Inda sent Nagatomo to Galatasaray. Is it the begining of their return to the top  :razz: ?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Terzino on January 31, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
It seems Chelsea is possibly letting a possible deal slide because Batshuayi has suddenly been very convincing and wants to stay.  Dzeko was apparently already planning where he would live in London and Merda ready to accept the cash.

Batshuayi to Dortmund, let the drama continue!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 31, 2018, 11:06:41 PM
It seems Chelsea is possibly letting a possible deal slide because Batshuayi has suddenly been very convincing and wants to stay.  Dzeko was apparently already planning where he would live in London and Merda ready to accept the cash.

Batshuayi to Dortmund, let the drama continue!

Yep, seems they signed Giroud instead.  Chelsea not in the business of having patience with anyone.

De Bruyne, Lukaku .....  :whistle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on January 31, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
New 'faxmachine' story, this time for Napoli.    :whistle:

Missed the deadline for the Politano contract.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on February 03, 2018, 12:12:24 AM
What is happening in Inter with Icardi, Brozovic, Perisic and even Wanda? Trouble in the paradise?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 03, 2018, 01:09:26 AM
What is happening in Inter with Icardi, Brozovic, Perisic and even Wanda? Trouble in the paradise?

From what i know Icardi repeatedly suggested to Brozovic and Perisic during the game against SPAL to work harder.  Tension in the dressing room as a result and it seems now that Icardi has stopped following his two teammates on instagram.

Could be something or it could be blown out of proportion by the media. 

Media suggesting that Icardi has not been selected for the Crotone game as a consequence altough Spaletti suggested he's slightly injured.

-------------------------------------------------------

Time for another struggle against a determined Crotone ..  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on February 03, 2018, 10:13:49 AM
Plenty of hints on social media that Mauro and Wanda are no more. Started with a post which translated as 'being able to say goodbye is to grow', which panicked a lot of Inter fans in the run up to deadline day  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Stefano6 on February 03, 2018, 10:48:08 AM
Maybe Maxi Lopez wants her back
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 03, 2018, 03:44:50 PM
Plenty of hints on social media that Mauro and Wanda are no more. Started with a post which translated as 'being able to say goodbye is to grow', which panicked a lot of Inter fans in the run up to deadline day  :razz:

Oooh boohoo ... :roll_eyes:

Switched to another player again.  Maybe Perisic and Brozovic both had a go .... given her reputation.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 03, 2018, 04:55:53 PM
Plenty of hints on social media that Mauro and Wanda are no more. Started with a post which translated as 'being able to say goodbye is to grow', which panicked a lot of Inter fans in the run up to deadline day  :razz:

Oooh boohoo ... :roll_eyes:

Switched to another player again.  Maybe Perisic and Brozovic both had a go .... given her reputation.

Exactly the same thing I thought  :razz: 
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Rizmo on February 03, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
Inda  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 03, 2018, 10:46:26 PM
Inda  :supsmile:

I don't know if I should be happy or not about them drawing.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 03, 2018, 10:47:59 PM
I got it in prediction game, but still shame Crotone didn't hit another.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 03, 2018, 10:58:30 PM
I got it in prediction game, but still shame Crotone didn't hit another.  :supsmile:

Me too.  I predicted 1-1 against SPAL and now Crotone also.
Yes sadly Crotone didn't win it but still 2 great results for us these games.
We've won 2 more games now then Inter, hopefully tomorrow makes 3.

Inted have no EL so all the points we can collect now give more breathingroom if we should get a mishap between the busy schedule.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: 1914 on February 03, 2018, 10:59:24 PM
After Crotone, tomorrow is Verona's turn to win some points in the relegation battle  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 03, 2018, 11:24:24 PM
After Crotone, tomorrow is Verona's turn to win some points in the relegation battle  :bravo:

Would be fantastic but i'm not counting on that.  Spal and Crotone had the characteristics to trouble Inter the way they play but Merda play sneaky football and won't get drawn in by Hellas the way Fiorentina did and took a beating.  Merda will probably win 0-1.   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on February 04, 2018, 12:44:25 PM
Hellas, down to merda after only 30 seconds.  :sevil:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 01:28:09 PM
Hellas, down to merda after only 30 seconds.  :sevil:

Hopefully 1-1 in the end.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 04, 2018, 02:00:55 PM
Come on you bloody verona bastards
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 04, 2018, 02:04:58 PM
Hellas won't score with three players up.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 04, 2018, 02:21:11 PM
Much more obvious penalty of Fazio on Petkovic than Caicedo on Pezzella, but...
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 04, 2018, 02:27:39 PM
Ok we knew merda was going to win this so no big deal, but strange how they don't score for 40 minutes
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 02:41:13 PM
After Crotone, tomorrow is Verona's turn to win some points in the relegation battle  :bravo:

Would be fantastic but i'm not counting on that.  Spal and Crotone had the characteristics to trouble Inter the way they play but Merda play sneaky football and won't get drawn in by Hellas the way Fiorentina did and took a beating.  Merda will probably win 0-1.   :roll_eyes:

Really hate to be right.   :um_face:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 04, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
Not only that Verona didn't  manage to score but they couldn't make a single chance. Pathetic  :ohnoo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 04, 2018, 03:53:24 PM
Two goals from corner kick in Bologna.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 03:55:06 PM
Not only that Verona didn't  manage to score but they couldn't make a single chance. Pathetic  :ohnoo:

Main reason why i expected 0-1.  They can only score whdn getting space on the counter and Merda is in the business of keeping closed doors.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 04, 2018, 04:36:17 PM
Calabria and Milan  :supsmile:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 04:52:13 PM
Seems we were the only team able to revive Milan ....  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: 1914 on February 04, 2018, 05:15:23 PM
After Crotone, tomorrow is Verona's turn to win some points in the relegation battle  :bravo:

Would be fantastic but i'm not counting on that.  Spal and Crotone had the characteristics to trouble Inter the way they play but Merda play sneaky football and won't get drawn in by Hellas the way Fiorentina did and took a beating.  Merda will probably win 0-1.   :roll_eyes:


Really hate to be right.   :um_face:

 :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Dakiller961 on February 04, 2018, 05:21:03 PM
Seems we were the only team able to revive Milan ....  :roll_eyes:

oh common, it was in san siro and with the help of a cutrone handball, and no thanks to VAR
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 04, 2018, 05:44:34 PM
How many teams do we have in Europe next season? Is it 7 now?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 05:51:31 PM
How many teams do we have in Europe next season? Is it 7 now?

6

4  CL
2 EL
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
Seems we were the only team able to revive Milan ....  :roll_eyes:

oh common, it was in san siro and with the help of a cutrone handball, and no thanks to VAR

Please don't remind me on the first day i'm coming to peace with it.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 04, 2018, 06:00:32 PM
6

4  CL
2 EL

So now that we have gained an extra place in CL, we have lost one in EL?
I thought we were going to have 7.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
6

4  CL
2 EL

So now that we have gained an extra place in CL, we have lost one in EL?
I thought we were going to have 7.

The extra CL spot counts as a European spot just thesame, that's the logic.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 04, 2018, 06:25:24 PM
The extra CL spot counts as a European spot just thesame, that's the logic.

I understand the logic. However, those who have 4 CL spots have total of 7 European sports.
If that is the case, Milan is likely to finish 6th whole others have little chance.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 06:34:26 PM
The extra CL spot counts as a European spot just thesame, that's the logic.

I understand the logic. However, those who have 4 CL spots have total of 7 European sports.
If that is the case, Milan is likely to finish 6th whole others have little chance.

Don't know about that. 
The premier league now have 4 CL spots and 1 EL spot.
La Liga and Bundesliga have exactly thesame spots like Serie A.
Ligue 1 have 3 CL spots, 1 EL spot.
Eredivisie have 1 CL spot, 1 qualification CL spot and 2 EL spots.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 04, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
Don't know about that. 
The premier league now have 4 CL spots and 1 EL spot.
La Liga and Bundesliga have exactly thesame spots like Serie A.
Ligue 1 have 3 CL spots, 1 EL spot.
Eredivisie have 1 CL spot, 1 qualification CL spot and 2 EL spots.

That is not the case.
Premier League have 7 European places. They have been taken by Chelsea, Tottenham, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd. and Everton. 4 in CL and 3 in EU. Although two of those EL places are being occupied by two different cup winners.
La Liga also has 4 CL spots and 3 EL sports. Real, Barcelona, Athletic and Seville in CL and Villarreal, Sociedad and Bilbao in EL....
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 07:08:09 PM
Don't know about that. 
The premier league now have 4 CL spots and 1 EL spot.
La Liga and Bundesliga have exactly thesame spots like Serie A.
Ligue 1 have 3 CL spots, 1 EL spot.
Eredivisie have 1 CL spot, 1 qualification CL spot and 2 EL spots.

That is not the case.
Premier League have 7 European places. They have been taken by Chelsea, Tottenham, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd. and Everton. 4 in CL and 3 in EU. Although two of those EL places are being occupied by two different cup winners.
La Liga also has 4 CL spots and 3 EL sports. Real, Barcelona, Athletic and Seville in CL and Villarreal, Sociedad and Bilbao in EL....

You are talking about the current European tournaments already happening this season.
You started this discussion asking about Serie A places for next season so i assumed you were looking at places for other leagues also for next season.

Clubs who qualify by winning a Cup is something else.  I'm talking about the official places to be reached via the league table.

Bilbao you mention for example qualified for the EL because Barcelona won the Copa del Rey but already occupied a CL spot.  They finished 7th but La Liga don't have 7 spots.  If a lower ranked team would have won the Copa (Alaves for example) then Bilbao wouldn't have been in Europe this season.  So to be clear one cannot assume these places are always there up for grabs.

Serie A have 6 places, but if the Coppa winner is already qualified then the 7th positioned team gets the spot.

For current Serie A season.  If Milan would finish 7th but Atalanta go on to win the Coppa and finishes 8th or 9th then Milan doesn't get into the EL.

Another fact why the Serie A or the Bundesliga or La Liga don't have 7 places is; if a club from the secondary division goes on to win the cup it goes into the EL and not a seventh 1st division team into Europe.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 04, 2018, 10:15:12 PM
I see that VAR referee doesn't sleep tonight, like he usually does on our matches.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 10:35:22 PM
I see that VAR referee doesn't sleep tonight, like he usually does on our matches.

Didn't watch a second, since i didn't expect anything else ...   :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 04, 2018, 11:32:28 PM
You are talking about the current European tournaments already happening this season.
You started this discussion asking about Serie A places for next season so i assumed you were looking at places for other leagues also for next season.

Clubs who qualify by winning a Cup is something else.  I'm talking about the official places to be reached via the league table.

Bilbao you mention for example qualified for the EL because Barcelona won the Copa del Rey but already occupied a CL spot.  They finished 7th but La Liga don't have 7 spots.  If a lower ranked team would have won the Copa (Alaves for example) then Bilbao wouldn't have been in Europe this season.  So to be clear one cannot assume these places are always there up for grabs.

Serie A have 6 places, but if the Coppa winner is already qualified then the 7th positioned team gets the spot.

For current Serie A season.  If Milan would finish 7th but Atalanta go on to win the Coppa and finishes 8th or 9th then Milan doesn't get into the EL.

Another fact why the Serie A or the Bundesliga or La Liga don't have 7 places is; if a club from the secondary division goes on to win the cup it goes into the EL and not a seventh 1st division team into Europe.

Each and every country has certain amount of European places which includes the cup winners. My question was how many places does Italy have since countries which have 4 CL spots usually have total of 7 European places.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 04, 2018, 11:51:13 PM
You are talking about the current European tournaments already happening this season.
You started this discussion asking about Serie A places for next season so i assumed you were looking at places for other leagues also for next season.

Clubs who qualify by winning a Cup is something else.  I'm talking about the official places to be reached via the league table.

Bilbao you mention for example qualified for the EL because Barcelona won the Copa del Rey but already occupied a CL spot.  They finished 7th but La Liga don't have 7 spots.  If a lower ranked team would have won the Copa (Alaves for example) then Bilbao wouldn't have been in Europe this season.  So to be clear one cannot assume these places are always there up for grabs.

Serie A have 6 places, but if the Coppa winner is already qualified then the 7th positioned team gets the spot.

For current Serie A season.  If Milan would finish 7th but Atalanta go on to win the Coppa and finishes 8th or 9th then Milan doesn't get into the EL.

Another fact why the Serie A or the Bundesliga or La Liga don't have 7 places is; if a club from the secondary division goes on to win the cup it goes into the EL and not a seventh 1st division team into Europe.

Each and every country has certain amount of European places which includes the cup winners. My question was how many places does Italy have since countries which have 4 CL spots usually have total of 7 European places.

Yes that's indeed the case for those countries, i was focussing on the league's before.
I was just explaining why i didn't agree with your post on La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, and not the countries like you mention now.  Those leagues don't have 7 spots, the country can get another team in trough the Cup, but there are several divisions in each country.
For Italy 6 via the Serie A and 1 via the Coppa.  And with candidates placed in the semi's it will be another Serie A team.  Either the 7th placed or the Coppa winner.  It could even be thesame team also logically.

And welcome to the forum by the way, hope to get some details in the welcome topic.  Always nice to know.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 05, 2018, 12:32:34 AM
Yes that's indeed the case for those countries, i was focussing on the league's before.
I was just explaining why i didn't agree with your post on La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, and not the countries like you mention now.  Those leagues don't have 7 spots, the country can get another team in trough the Cup, but there are several divisions in each country.
For Italy 6 via the Serie A and 1 via the Coppa.  And with candidates placed in the semi's it will be another Serie A team.  Either the 7th placed or the Coppa winner.  It could even be thesame team also logically.

And welcome to the forum by the way, hope to get some details in the welcome topic.  Always nice to know.

So unlike before, when we had total of 6 European places, you claim that we will have 7?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 05, 2018, 12:45:12 AM
Yes that's indeed the case for those countries, i was focussing on the league's before.
I was just explaining why i didn't agree with your post on La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, and not the countries like you mention now.  Those leagues don't have 7 spots, the country can get another team in trough the Cup, but there are several divisions in each country.
For Italy 6 via the Serie A and 1 via the Coppa.  And with candidates placed in the semi's it will be another Serie A team.  Either the 7th placed or the Coppa winner.  It could even be thesame team also logically.

And welcome to the forum by the way, hope to get some details in the welcome topic.  Always nice to know.

So unlike before, when we had total of 6 European places, you claim that we will have 7?
Thanks.

If you mean Italy by saying 'we' it looks like it yes, with the teams playing the Coppa semi's.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 05, 2018, 01:23:54 AM
If you mean Italy by saying 'we' it looks like it yes, with the teams playing the Coppa semi's.

 :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Dakiller961 on February 05, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
If you mean Italy by saying 'we' it looks like it yes, with the teams playing the Coppa semi's.

 :offlag:

To make simplify things

Italy has 4CL and 2 EL spots through the league + 1 EL spot through Coppa = Total 7
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 05, 2018, 12:09:53 PM
If you mean Italy by saying 'we' it looks like it yes, with the teams playing the Coppa semi's.

 :offlag:

To make simplify things

Italy has 4CL and 2 EL spots through the league + 1 EL spot through Coppa = Total 7

This was in my last post :     ' For Italy 6 via the Serie A and 1 via the Coppa. '

This was my first :         ' 6 spots          4  CL - 2 EL '


So i think this was covered.  :twinkle:

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 05, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
Its good to be back on 7 European places in total.

To be honest, my interest in the league is only war between Lazio, Inter and Roma for 3rd and 4th spot.
However, do you guys have any preferences on who you want to win the league?
Who do you want to finish 6th and 7th?
And finally, who do you want to go down?
 :offlag:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 05, 2018, 03:33:46 PM
Just in case there's any doubt

1-4th place: CL group stage
5-6th: Europa League
Coppa Italia winner: Europa League

If the coppa italia winner is top 6 the 7th spot team get a EL spot.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 05, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Just in case there's any doubt

1-4th place: CL group stage
5-6th: Europa League
Coppa Italia winner: Europa League

If the coppa italia winner is top 6 the 7th spot team get a EL spot.

  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 05, 2018, 04:27:15 PM
Its good to be back on 7 European places in total.

To be honest, my interest in the league is only war between Lazio, Inter and Roma for 3rd and 4th spot.
However, do you guys have any preferences on who you want to win the league?
Who do you want to finish 6th and 7th?
And finally, who do you want to go down?
 :offlag:

For the Scudetto, Lazio of course ...  :twinkle:
But now that's obviously of the table, i expect and hope that Juve takes it and not Napoli.

I wish for us to take 3rd, it's realistic but very hard to combine with EL and Coppa, 4th is fine to as long as we get that CL money.  Inter for the remaining spot.  Not that i prefer them in any way above other teams, but anyone is good besides Merda of course.

Samp and Atalanta would deserve Europe imo, especially Samp this season.


Best to hope for (and being realistic) :  Juve - Napoli - Lazio - Inter - Merda- Samp - Atalanta

With a little fantasy :  Juve - Napoli - Lazio - Inter - Samp - Merda - Milan

Most likely imo :  Juve - Napoli - Inter - Lazio - Merda - Samp - Milan


Wanted to see relegate :  Sassuolo, Genoa & Benevento

Will probably relegate :  Spal, Verona & Benevento
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 05, 2018, 04:47:40 PM
Why do you want Juventus to win it more than Napoli? I'd rather have Napoli win it than those ****ing thieves.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on February 05, 2018, 04:54:27 PM
Why do you want Juventus to win it more than Napoli? I'd rather have Napoli win it than those ****ing thieves.

Can't speak for Evesto, but Napoli is probably more of a rival than Juventus, although it would very much be the lesser of two evils.

And having an issue with Juventus over Calciopoli, for a Lazio fan, has to be problematic if you know our history, as I'm sure you do  :razz:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 05, 2018, 05:02:44 PM
Why do you want Juventus to win it more than Napoli? I'd rather have Napoli win it than those ****ing thieves.

Logical remark this.  I hate Napels just a tiny bit more, and Juve belong much more in Serie A.
It never pleases me to see Juve win another one, as long as Napoli doesn't get it.
Napoli can only win it to prevent Merda, but that's no treath.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 05, 2018, 05:05:16 PM
If Lazio can't win it, everything is better than rats from date unknown of 1927.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 05, 2018, 05:18:36 PM
Why do you want Juventus to win it more than Napoli? I'd rather have Napoli win it than those ****ing thieves.

Can't speak for Evesto, but Napoli is probably more of a rival than Juventus, although it would very much be the lesser of two evils.

And having an issue with Juventus over Calciopoli, for a Lazio fan, has to be problematic if you know our history, as I'm sure you do  :razz:

Haha  :razz:

I'm not referring to Calciopoli. I don't believe that only the clubs which got caught in it were fixing games. Every club fixes or has fixed games in the past, from Bayern, Man City, Barcelona, Milan, they fix games in CL, EL and every other competition that exists. Juventus are the biggest thieves in Italy, always have been and always will be. I'd rather have Napoli win the Scudetto than Juventus simply because they steal less.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 06, 2018, 01:40:07 AM
Can't speak for Evesto, but Napoli is probably more of a rival than Juventus, although it would very much be the lesser of two evils.

I can certainly agree with that.
Even though they have been better lately, we can still claim to be the bigger club because they have not wan the league in ages. But if they do, they would have a better claim than we do.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Doctor on February 06, 2018, 01:49:59 AM
Best to hope for (and being realistic) :  Juve - Napoli - Lazio - Inter - Merda- Samp - Atalanta
Most likely imo :  Juve - Napoli - Inter - Lazio - Merda - Samp - Milan

Wanted to see relegate :  Sassuolo, Genoa & Benevento
Will probably relegate :  Spal, Verona & Benevento

Juve - Napoli - Lazio - Inter - Roma - Milan - Sampdoria
I think that it would be good for Italian football to have Milan in EL.

Benevento, SPAL and Crotone.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Lazio Forever on February 09, 2018, 04:00:56 PM
Just read it that the new TV rights for Seria A will be given to the Spanish Mediapro.
Some of the changes include playing games on Saturday and Sunday at 18.00, Saturday 15.00 as well as Monday 20.30, the rest remain the same.

What's benefitial for us with Mediapro is that we will get 17 500 000€ more than before per season, or total of 71 600 000€. :offlag:
Juve had a cut, and Merda and Inter has a small increase in the ammounts but we gain the most.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: inhocsignovinces on February 09, 2018, 08:36:04 PM
We are making 17.5mil more. Awesome.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 11, 2018, 03:08:16 PM
Bologna conceded in the first 3 minutes, so much for them giving us a helping hand this weekend

Wooohoo Palacio
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 11, 2018, 04:25:09 PM
Bologna conceded in the first 3 minutes, so much for them giving us a helping hand this weekend

Wooohoo Palacio

I'm not concidering or looking at direct opponents anymore since Genoa.  It has no meaning since we have been refusing gifts several times.  Inter and Merda won't keep struggling here and there all the time.

I envy your continous effort at this time, i really do.  Genoa and Napoli struck me hard, more then ever before actually.  I guess it's because i had the illusion things like that wouldn't happen that often anymore.

It got me thinking last night, do we really want Lazio in a CL group.  The money would be great but seeing how unprepared we go into important games at this stage and the quality we have defensivly, it could be a disaster.  I honestly don't want Europe seeing us selfdestruct like that.  If we ever go on that level again i want Lazio to be adequate and look like we belong. We could be with more then a few rosterchanges this summer but it would simply be to much at once to be realistic.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 11, 2018, 04:52:15 PM
Bologna conceded in the first 3 minutes, so much for them giving us a helping hand this weekend

Wooohoo Palacio

I'm not concidering or looking at direct opponents anymore since Genoa.  It has no meaning since we have been refusing gifts several times.  Inter and Merda won't keep struggling here and there all the time.

I envy your continous effort at this time, i really do.  Genoa and Napoli struck me hard, more then ever before actually.  I guess it's because i had the illusion things like that wouldn't happen that often anymore.

It got me thinking last night, do we really want Lazio in a CL group.  The money would be great but seeing how unprepared we go into important games at this stage and the quality we have defensivly, it could be a disaster.  I honestly don't want Europe seeing us selfdestruct like that.  If we ever go on that level again i want Lazio to be adequate and look like we belong. We could be with more then a few rosterchanges this summer but it would simply be to much at once to be realistic.

Is it realistic to push for CL place, EL and Coppa? I think it is not.

The winner of EL gets a CL place so for me it is illogical to go for both. We cannot expect our team to perform throughout the whole season like they did in the first half of it. We do not have strong enough bench to battle on three fronts.

One of these things must be put to side and it is not going to be Coppa. Inzaghi must prioritize CL place finish or EL because if we go for both we are not going to make it.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 11, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
Winning the EL is more unrealistic than finishing top 4 though, at least I think so. There's 5 or 6 teams in the EL that would have no problems walking over us over two legs in EL. We'd have to avoid them or be lucky.

I agree though, we can't play the best players every week and think we have a shot at making it into CL that way. We have to prioritize. But I'm not sure Inzaghi understands that or agrees with it. I guess on Thursday we might know though.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 11, 2018, 05:00:53 PM
Winning the EL is more unrealistic than finishing top 4 though, at least I think so. There's 5 or 6 teams in the EL that would have no problems walking over us over two legs in EL. We'd have to avoid them or be lucky.

I agree though, we can't play the best players every week and think we have a shot at making it into CL that way. We have to prioritize. But I'm not sure Inzaghi understands that or agrees with it. I guess on Thursday we might know though.

Please name me those team who can walk over us.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 11, 2018, 05:06:07 PM
Dortmund
Arsenal
Atletico Madrid
Lyon
Napoli

I'd also be super worried about playing Leipzig, but they will probably get knocked out by Napoli. Anyway those five above, they would walk over us.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 11, 2018, 05:10:06 PM
Dortmund
Arsenal
Atletico Madrid
Lyon
Napoli

I'd also be super worried about playing Leipzig, but they will probably get knocked out by Napoli. Anyway those five above, they would walk over us.

Dortmund can barely walk over the likes of ****ing Eintracht or Mainz. Arsenal? Are you really going to consider Arsenal, the mental midgets, as a EL favorite?

Lyon is similar to us, strong attack but not great at the defense. Napoli is not going to push for EL when they have the chance to win Serie A and Atletico is just one big shit because if they were not they would still be playing CL.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 11, 2018, 05:21:38 PM
Dortmund
Arsenal
Atletico Madrid
Lyon
Napoli

I'd also be super worried about playing Leipzig, but they will probably get knocked out by Napoli. Anyway those five above, they would walk over us.

Dortmund can barely walk over the likes of ****ing Eintracht or Mainz. Arsenal? Are you really going to consider Arsenal, the mental midgets, as a EL favorite?

Lyon is similar to us, strong attack but not great at the defense. Napoli is not going to push for EL when they have the chance to win Serie A and Atletico is just one big shit because if they were not they would still be playing CL.

I really agree but, that's in case of our best 11 and all in good form.  An adjusted Lazio for EL and with surely one eye on the Serie A will not pull that of against those teams.

Like you said we need a clear path and it should be Serie A, 2 places can be targetted and in EL only the winner counts.
The quality differece at Lazio between bench and starters is very big, unlike Napoli who can almost field a backup defence and midfield to attempt an EL win.

If Lazio goes full out on all fronts, we will not achieve anything imo.

Serie A will already be very hard.  Inter just stopped giving us gifts and Merda will certainly jump us also tonight.
After 3 losses and seeing both competitors ahead again in the table will be a double mental blow.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 11, 2018, 05:26:52 PM
We're not going to play against all of those named teams in EL. Going through and win in competition made from nine matches (knockout) are always easier than going through league competition of 14 matches and getting out with settled achievement.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on February 11, 2018, 05:38:37 PM
I personally think it's going to be much easier to pick up more points than one of 1927 and Inter and hold off any late surges from others and finish in the Top 4 than it is to be the last team standing in a competition which still has 32 participants, all of which are supposed to be at the same level.

But only one entry route to the Champions League comes with a trophy at the end of it.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 11, 2018, 05:42:23 PM
We're not going to play against all of those named teams in EL. Going through and win in competition made from nine matches (knockout) are always easier than going through league competition of 14 matches and getting out with settled achievement.

I have to disagree also.  In the EL one loss and it's possibly over and in the final it is right away of course.
In the league one loss isn't decisive,  even results of opponents matter the outcome.

To get to the CL via the EL one needs to win the final and avoid mishaps a long the way, plus play with adjusted teams (bench).  Trough Serie A there are still 2 direct spots available.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 11, 2018, 05:48:31 PM
I'm still pretty confident in our league chances. We are facing all the competitors and bigger teams at home until the rest of the season - rube, merda, sampdoria, inter, and they still need to play each other meaning someone is bound to drop points.
They may be on the up, but facing it logically, we always suck against Milan, Genoa is also a dark horse and Napoli aren't title contenders for no reason.
So, as much as three losses in a row hurt, it's not as if we lost to Benevento.

regarding EL, it's anyone's guess at how far we can progress. And we're one solid match at home against Milan from entering the coppa final.

So theoretically, no cause for alarm just yet.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 11, 2018, 05:58:56 PM
Sure, taking one of the CL spots through Serie A should be easier than winning the EL but like Crni said we have more games in Serie A that in the EL. And once this round of knockout stage is played some of the stronger teams will already drop out.

I agree partly with everyone. Dropping points against Genoa was bad but Inter dropping points against Crotone and 1927 dropping points against Atalanta and Sampdoria was the same. I do not believe they are stronger than us, we play much better football but we are not in form currently. Sile does make a point for those home games, we will have a slight advantage. But refs can **** us over in Seria A much more than in EL.

Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 11, 2018, 08:56:45 PM
Also, Benevento with an early shocker :D

Let's see how long that lasts, not getting my hopes up again
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 11, 2018, 09:09:45 PM
Also, Benevento with an early shocker :D

Let's see how long that lasts, not getting my hopes up again

If they pull that of Lazio should take them out for dinner at least, even for a draw.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 11, 2018, 10:06:59 PM
Dinner is cancelled.  :roll_eyes:

Hope Udinese and Milan take their points next to games and we take 6 from Verona and Sassuolo.

Just realized Samp is only 5 points behind anymore and Milan has gained half their points trailing, but still 8.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on February 11, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
With this form and all this drama with FA we can easily drop even from EL places.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 17, 2018, 12:32:28 PM
Well Genoa, you have to prove today against Inter you guys aren't a fluke?    :whistle:

And Oddo needs to get his men in warrior mode.   :stendrm:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 17, 2018, 02:29:07 PM
Well Genoa, you have to prove today against Inter you guys aren't a fluke?    :whistle:

And Oddo needs to get his men in warrior mode.   :stendrm:

If Genoa doesn't sell the game to Inter the ref will make sure to help the struggling rat club that they are.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 17, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
Genoa - Inter (actually very amusing match between two team of scarce tecnical ability that categorically deny to play football)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Delta on February 17, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
Milan-Doria huge match tomorrow... Spalletti could be out any day, not sure is this good or bad  :fingerup:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 17, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
Genoa :D
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: badboyyy on February 17, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
Wow what a player is Laxalt, always running and running, i hope Tare is on scouting mode
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 17, 2018, 10:45:51 PM
I'm going to go apeshit on Monday if we don't see a performance from the team that is full of motivation and desire to take back our spot for CL next season.

We can't let another gift slip out of our hands..
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 17, 2018, 11:12:20 PM
Very fortunate Genoa pulled it of again, because next matchday Inter has Benevento.
Of course useless again unless we take 3 points tomorrow.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Boksic on February 18, 2018, 09:34:23 PM
Unbeleivable how even with VAR, a clear handball in the box by Calabria goes undetected. This is beyond wrong!
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on February 18, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
Unbeleivable how even with VAR, a clear handball in the box by Calabria goes undetected. This is beyond wrong!

What a VAR show in general this match is. Correct disallowed goal by Milan (crazy that the linesman didn't flag it though?) and then a new sequence with a handball in the penalty area seconds later.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Boksic on February 18, 2018, 10:12:56 PM
Unbeleivable how even with VAR, a clear handball in the box by Calabria goes undetected. This is beyond wrong!

What a VAR show in general this match is. Correct disallowed goal by Milan (crazy that the linesman didn't flag it though?) and then a new sequence with a handball in the penalty area seconds later.

A farce totally, they were 2 steps ahead and the linesman doesn't even bother to flag it. At least it was corrected but then again another hands ball and it wasnt even checked.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 18, 2018, 10:44:01 PM
It's only ordinary night of refereeing at San Siro.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 18, 2018, 10:45:16 PM
Milan getting really close now and definitely a contender for top 4
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 18, 2018, 10:55:18 PM
Milan getting really close now and definitely a contender for top 4

They definitly settled with Gattuso, did not expect that.
Anyhow a win tomorrow keeps us 8 points lose from next in line Inter and Samp.
Lazio better not look at the table and just aim to do well every game, others one can't control.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 18, 2018, 11:10:08 PM
All these shit games ending in 1-0, SerieA at its "best"

Apart from Genoa nothing went our way this weekend, if everyone else can win 1-0 why shouldn't we do the same. I'm already annoyed tomorrow
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: lazioserbia on February 18, 2018, 11:24:52 PM
Milan getting really close now and definitely a contender for top 4

In the next two months Milan will play against 1927, Inter, Juventus and Napoli. They might seem like they're coming up but it will be very hard for them to continue in this way.

They are playing better though and we will have to play a very good game to beat them.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on February 18, 2018, 11:31:13 PM
The moment we fall into 5the place, it's apparently no longer likely we will finish in Top 4 but Milan win a few games and are declared contenders, despite the fact they could and should be 8 points back this time tomorrow.

Milan were never out of this race. Anything can happen in this sport. We could win the Scudetto yet. We won't, but we could.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Evesto on February 18, 2018, 11:55:38 PM
In the next two months Milan will play against 1927, Inter, Juventus and Napoli. They might seem like they're coming up but it will be very hard for them to continue in this way.

Milan are indeed facing a tougher schedule to come,  thesame for Merda and Inter are struggling.
So we are certainly not out of the race.

Apart from Genoa nothing went our way this weekend,

Yet everything went completely our way several weeks ago and more then once, but we didn't benefit at all.
Bad timing to have a lesser period.
Let's hope we will be taking our points again now, starting from tomorrow and hope their schedule allows us to make up.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: gibson_lp2 on February 19, 2018, 11:26:27 AM
So looks like the Milan owner is bankrupt?
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 19, 2018, 11:36:06 AM
That is a neverending saga.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 19, 2018, 02:38:51 PM
The moment we fall into 5the place, it's apparently no longer likely we will finish in Top 4 but Milan win a few games and are declared contenders, despite the fact they could and should be 8 points back this time tomorrow.

Milan were never out of this race. Anything can happen in this sport. We could win the Scudetto yet. We won't, but we could.

Given the two team's form right now it's not strange if someone has a difficult time seeing Lazio finishing in top 4 while also thinking Milan is a contender. That could turn around though if Milan fall apart again in the next month/6 weeks when they get to play some of the better opponents in the league.

Their tough schedule starts a bit sooner than ours and their ending to the season is a bit more smooth than ours. At least if you want to assume both teams will beat lesser teams but struggle against those on par or better.

Anyway will be interesting to see what happens. I think for any neutrals following the Serie A this could be a very exciting race to the end. Not just for the scudetto, but also 3rd and 4th spot.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Cathal on February 19, 2018, 02:50:34 PM
Given the two team's form right now it's not strange if someone has a difficult time seeing Lazio finishing in top 4 while also thinking Milan is a contender.

It's strange that in a competition where every team has to play 38 games, we focus so much energy on what happened in the last 2-3 games. If the rest of the season plays out like the last 3 games, 1927 and Milan will finish in the Top 4, sure.

But that's not how it works. Which is why I don't understand how we can come across more confident about Milan's chances when they are still very far back than we are about Lazio's chances when they are in touching distance.
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Akha on February 19, 2018, 08:36:04 PM
Check this out  :supsmile:

https://twitter.com/EdenDassidy/status/955687891144986624
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 19, 2018, 08:40:04 PM
December 2012 - Sneijder was asked to reduced his salary into half but he refused. Inter forced him out of the team, wrote on the official site that he was injured. Sneijder denied it via twitter, Inter asked twitter to suspend his account. His wife took over the rant


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535)
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Sile on February 19, 2018, 08:43:21 PM
Schelotto and Kuzmanović  :wow:

Coutinho  :bravo:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: hamid on February 19, 2018, 09:21:56 PM
Check this out  :supsmile:

https://twitter.com/EdenDassidy/status/955687891144986624

 :supsmile: :supsmile: :supsmile:

This one was the funniest:

February 2011 - A nine year old named Filippo held a banner at the San Siro begging Inter to stop losing cos they were teasing him at school. Inter invited him to training ground, apologized to him officially then lost their game
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: MMV on February 19, 2018, 10:17:11 PM
We could make a pretty good Lazio one  :what:
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 20, 2018, 10:10:57 AM
Someone could make a really spicy Lotito timeline with fax machines, his obscure statements and his heated relationships with the other presidents
Title: Re: Serie A 2017/18
Post by: Crni Đorđe on February 20, 2018, 10:43:45 AM
I guess that reading about Inda's adventures is always funny. It's only right for them to suffer.