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Title: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: blue-white on May 26, 2014, 05:15:15 PM
Here are some exclusive photos (live pics) from the Lazio Academy event. Special thanks to our 'ermetico'! More information will be posted later.

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Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: drazvan on May 26, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
In the second photo from top, is that Pepe Sculinwa grabbing food? In black shirt with 1900 on it! Wtf is he doing there?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Evesto on May 26, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
In the second photo from top, is that Pepe Sculinwa grabbing food? In black shirt with 1900 on it! Wtf is he doing there?

I was immediatly thinking thesame time a the first glimpse.  But looking in detail, i have doubts, don't think it's him?  If it where him, would we be surprised, he's connected isn't he?    :twinkle:
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: blue-white on May 26, 2014, 05:32:32 PM
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Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Giolazio on May 26, 2014, 05:49:46 PM
In the second photo from top, is that Pepe Sculinwa grabbing food? In black shirt with 1900 on it! Wtf is he doing there?

Nah it's not him.

Event looks cool though. Love seeing the trophy cabinet!

 :Esflag:
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on May 26, 2014, 06:38:52 PM
Today at 17.00, S.S. Lazio invited all to join a new project. The Lazio soccer Academy.

A new structure is to be built inside the training centre of Formello. It will consist of 8 new playing pitches, a swimming pool, a computerised fitness room, a medical centre, a country house and a restaurant. This will be an international academy where the young will be trained from 7 years-of-age upwards.

La Lazio are renovating our history, while respecting our traditions. La Lazio, which will develop children up to the first team, like other European academies.

The academy is dedicated to Roberto 'Bob' Lovati and an emotional President Lotito spoke with fans and admitted his rudeness and errors in the past. The president asked that we be united.

More then 500 guests enjoyed the party with music, videos and a special regards from Lulic to remind today May 26th. La Coppa e’ sempre nostra.

United under one symbol. La Lazio.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on May 26, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
an emotional President Lotito spoke with fans and admitted his rudeness and errors in the past. The president asked that we be united.


I want to trust him..and give him the benefit of the doubt, but after all the lies in the past I dunno if that is even possible....
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Roman_Eagle on May 26, 2014, 06:51:59 PM
that is what caught my eye also, it would be perfect to be true, but sadly is most probably just dust in fans eyes.


the Academy though is a good move!
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Evesto on May 26, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
an emotional President Lotito spoke with fans and admitted his rudeness and errors in the past. The president asked that we be united.


I want to trust him..and give him the benefit of the doubt, but after all the lies in the past I dunno if that is even possible....

He did what he did in the past, no forgiveness for that.  But if he wants to start over and prove himself from now on, and i repeat IF ....  Then we should indeed be united, it's in La Lazio's best interest!

An academy is nice and it puts us more on the map in Europe.  It would have been nice tough, having a team first that's puts us on the map in Europe?  Do i dare to think there's hope for the future?

I'm hoping for a decent mercato this summer and start from there.  Who knows, after a few more seasons the youth academy might provide us with the quality we deserve?

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Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Zouma on May 26, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
So this is what Lotito was going on about a few weeks back... It'll probably be 4/5 years before we start to see real benefits from thie place but it's certainly a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on May 26, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
If luck goes our way, we will already see benefits next season with Minala, Keita, Tounkara etc....

My only concern..or this isn't so much a concern..but more a big WTF...is why on earth we have Reja working as our coach. Where the god damn logic in investing huge money in a youth academy and promoting 5-6 youngsters..and then having a manager of the first team who is totally against using youngsters...Reja would prefer using players like Paolo Cannavaro or Quag over a youngster...

We're shooting ourselves in the foot by having Reja as a coach, when having invested so much money in the youth sector...

I cannot understand it..what am I missing?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Evesto on May 26, 2014, 08:22:18 PM
A youth project and Reja indeed do not really fit in thesame sentence, that's true.
As i said many times before, Reja is like a crisis-manager (and a good one i might add).  A coach to quickly salvage a team, not a man for building and ambition. 
Luckely we have Bollini & Inzaghi walking around.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: valdanito on May 26, 2014, 09:51:25 PM
Here we go again with the whole Reja not trusting/using the youth.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on May 27, 2014, 10:29:58 AM
Let's get on-topic because some of you seem to be missing the point entirely. This is an incredibly exciting project, the first of its kind in Italy and the details I provided on the previous page came from Ermetico, who was present at the event.

I remember about 5 years ago, I used to have arguments with members about how I believed that developing talents was an expensive undertaking that was not working for us at that time (one De Silvestri every 10 years is not worthwhile) and that Lotito's decision to cut costs by cutting back on youth investments was smart, as there is no point investing in youth unless you do it properly. Well, this is what I was waiting to see; developing youth properly. It amazes me that people haven't come onto this thread, held their hands up and admitted this is exciting and a giant leap in the right direction.

It appears we have appointed Joop Lensen (http://lazioland.com/NewsProfile.htm?NewsId=2241) as head of the Acadmey (this explains our sudden interest in Dutch talent). If people want to ignore this and talk about which players are never going to transfer to Lazio, fine. This surely merits more attention and discussion.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: martinese on May 27, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
The Dutch know how to work with youngsters and make them show all the best they can and even more so I'm quite excited about this new guy.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: blue-white on May 27, 2014, 10:50:32 AM
I personally, i'm very excited about that. If not,...we would have not tried to work that out like a live thread!

The academy is the right direction! This is what i always wanted to see at Lazio. But the club should not stop there. It is important that the guys who grow up in the academy needs to get the best chances to step up!
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cnon on May 27, 2014, 10:52:42 AM
This is definitely what I want from Lazio! Going to next level in training and developing young players. I'm not expert how things are done elsewhere but I've seen some documents and news how some teams train youth. I know that the Netherlands were ahead of other countries, they used some sort of smaller playgrounds with some kind of walls so that the teams were smaller (something like 5 on 5 perhaps) and the ball is in the play a lot more. This way you don't need that much organization to get good games and player skills is what defines outcome more than team play and tactics. I heard that Spain copied this and you can see the results in how both nations have developed young talents. If Lazio can get advantage from this and adding good scouting in youth players, we certainly can have great future in 4-6 years before others can catch up.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Caput Mundi on May 27, 2014, 01:10:38 PM
I'm excited about the potential to train our own local talent and in turn regain some popuarlity within our own city.

I hope we don't become a club that imports talent from elsewhere willy-nilly though at the expense of our own.


The name of the academy is a real step in the right direction. Accademia Roberto Lovati. Fantastic.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: ArmLaziale on May 27, 2014, 01:12:46 PM
This is the right direction, what's more promising is that more kids from Italy/Rome will choose to develope their talent at Lazio. Kids have been choosing roma over us in the past years but now, with this project ongoing, we look more attractive.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Broenco on May 27, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
I love the inisiative to go to this direction!
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on May 28, 2014, 02:54:03 AM
This is good, really good. I hope we can produce so many our own talents in the future, not only for Lazio but also for the national team.

Just curious, I read somewhere they made poll about the name of this academy. Most of them vote "Sergio Cragnotti Academy", but they named it different from the poll. Was the poll held by them?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Caput Mundi on May 28, 2014, 05:27:54 AM
This is good, really good. I hope we can produce so many our own talents in the future, not only for Lazio but also for the national team.

Just curious, I read somewhere they made poll about the name of this academy. Most of them vote "Sergio Cragnotti Academy", but they named it different from the poll. Was the poll held by them?

Because Lotito was never going to name anything after Cragnotti. It was a clever provocation though. :supsmile:

Bob Lovati won the poll and deservedly so.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: phantomm1976 on May 28, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
 Cragnoti academy - sounds good.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on May 28, 2014, 04:43:59 PM
This is good, really good. I hope we can produce so many our own talents in the future, not only for Lazio but also for the national team.

Just curious, I read somewhere they made poll about the name of this academy. Most of them vote "Sergio Cragnotti Academy", but they named it different from the poll. Was the poll held by them?

Because Lotito was never going to name anything after Cragnotti. It was a clever provocation though. :supsmile:

The four names they held the poll on were based on the suggestions received in the LazioStyle inbox. There's no way of proving or disproving that Cragnotti was the top suggestion, although it is quite likely he was, as there appears to be a lot of love for Cragnotti in Rome during these protests. Obvious reasons why.

It is a provocation, and clever though it may be, it's insulting to Cragnotti, Lotito and all involved with the club. I'd also go as far as to call it shameful that the fans want an academy for the kids of Rome - their kids - to be named with the sole purpose of insulting a man who will forever be smaller than the club.

It's just another example of why I think this protest has gone way too far. The hatred for Lotito should never be bigger than the love for Lazio., but it is. I looked at the discussion on Facebook when they posted the images of the academy and it was Libera La Lazio and a whole host of insults towards the President? This academy will be around long after Lotito, and the fans would do well to remember that.

Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Giolazio on May 28, 2014, 10:37:27 PM
This academy is a great achievement. We are showing that we are a forward thinking club and have really given ourselves a real ace in our hand.

When I read things like 'why would a player chose Lazio? We have nothing to offer?' I get angry because we have plenty. This academy is another jewel in la Lazio that will show players round the world that we have plenty to offer.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Weninho on May 28, 2014, 11:17:28 PM
I applaud the initiative as well, but I don't understand why it should be all Dutch. Nothing against the Netherlands - I have the greatest respect for their work - but it's not my kind of football and especially not my kind of idea going forward for us a club. Italy has a great tradition of football education, Italy has a great tradition of coaches, Italy has a great tradition of producing players. Italy is one of the leading football nations in the world. Why look elsewhere?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on May 29, 2014, 12:41:30 AM
To be honest, I don't care if it is a Indian or Guatemala academy, as long they give results and talents to the club. Italy is no longer one of the leading nations in football, it goes down every year, one step back, the coficient downfall is one example of it. Many italian talents goes to the continent, great Italian coaches are now in Russia, Spain, Turkey, England.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Toni Laziale on May 29, 2014, 12:56:30 AM
This academy is good thing for our Lazio and generaly for Italian football. Italian clubs should look up on German Bundesliga to resolve financial crissis. German clubs have good Academys and B teams. Sadly only thing we wont see is full stadiums like in Germany. There is always some excuse for not being on stadium with our favorite club. I know is financial crises, and some boycot because of president but Lazio should not suffer because of current administration. Im always for full stadium but if there is need they can take that transparents with oppinion always. Lotito made mistakes with transfers this season (or he was not doing anything because we had no real reinforcement), and he was no angel because he throw away lots of our kids of Lazio Primavera but never than less we should take advantage of his open approach to fans for this time. He actually said that he is sorry for making wrong moves with fans. I dont defend president but simply trying to see things from another angle.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Weninho on May 29, 2014, 02:52:01 AM
Many italian talents goes to the continent, great Italian coaches are now in Russia, Spain, Turkey, England.

And that's because Italy is one of the leading fotball nations in the world  :smile:
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Caput Mundi on May 29, 2014, 03:49:49 AM
I applaud the initiative as well, but I don't understand why it should be all Dutch. Nothing against the Netherlands - I have the greatest respect for their work - but it's not my kind of football and especially not my kind of idea going forward for us a club. Italy has a great tradition of football education, Italy has a great tradition of coaches, Italy has a great tradition of producing players. Italy is one of the leading football nations in the world. Why look elsewhere?

I don't think it's been set up with the view that Lazio teams play a Dutch style of football. From what I get, the guy has been picked just because of his experience in other clubs with better academies. How many Italian clubs are known for their world class academy? Not many, and it's not like we could poach someone to run ours from Juve.

The Dutch are better than the Italians (and most others) at running youth academies because they've needed to be. Their clubs would have gone bust or become completely uncompetitive in Europe if they didn't. I think we've done well here.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: phantomm1976 on May 29, 2014, 10:14:43 AM
 Academy is great idea, but how many young  players gets they chance in serie-a,
 And after how many years,
 In the teams with this kind of style they promote youngsters and we saw them in the field at the age 18 for example,
 In serie-a ?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on May 29, 2014, 10:36:37 AM
Many italian talents goes to the continent, great Italian coaches are now in Russia, Spain, Turkey, England.

And that's because Italy is one of the leading fotball nations in the world  :smile:

Yes, but why are they outside of Italy working?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Dakiller961 on May 29, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
We are seeing this already in Lazio, Onazi, Keita, tounkara etc.... I see a bright future
we might become the next Dortmund
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Giolazio on May 29, 2014, 03:51:28 PM
Many italian talents goes to the continent, great Italian coaches are now in Russia, Spain, Turkey, England.

And that's because Italy is one of the leading fotball nations in the world  :smile:

Haha exactly what I was thinking. If you had said Serie A...
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: martinese on May 30, 2014, 08:43:20 AM
Yes, but why are they outside of Italy working?

Because the bags of money are there...
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Weninho on May 30, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
I don't think it's been set up with the view that Lazio teams play a Dutch style of football. From what I get, the guy has been picked just because of his experience in other clubs with better academies. How many Italian clubs are known for their world class academy? Not many, and it's not like we could poach someone to run ours from Juve.

I'm not so sure. I think Caxi already mentioned it somewhere but I'll not be surprised if Tare's alternative to Reja is a Dutchman. When they've decided on something...

I could be wrong, I don't know the details, but I'm a huge fan of Italian football (not that I'm an expert on the education system) and just wish we could build on that. No arguments that the Dutch have more experience, but to run an academy in the Netherlands is one thing, to run it in Italy another.

Yes, but why are they outside of Italy working?

Because the bags of money are there...

Exactly, I was going to give you the same answer.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Evesto on June 24, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
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Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on March 15, 2015, 08:26:43 PM
So 10 months ago this was announced and we saw some pictures...so I have some questions

1: At what stage are we now..has anything been built yet? I mean like training grounds, housing for the kids etc...

2: So the dutch guy we hired to be the coach or just running the youth academy, is he actually doing that? I haven't heard anything at all


Personally I get the feeling nothing has changed. Don't get me wrong, our youth team is doing great. But it's almost been a year and I am a little skeptical about this project, because of lack of news.

Any updates?
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Evesto on August 05, 2015, 11:13:20 AM
Not a question.
Lensen stated that out youth academy will be builth and run in the image of the Ajax academy.
The 433 will be the standard starting formation and players will be attracted who can fith that model.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on August 05, 2015, 12:06:06 PM
Not a question.
Lensen stated that out youth academy will be builth and run in the image of the Ajax academy.
The 433 will be the standard starting formation and players will be attracted who can fith that model.

I removed your post so that the Q&A is separate to discussions on the academy and I've merged your post to the original topic we set up for the announcement of the Academy.

Just to add to your post above, Lensen also said in the past that our style of play is focused on recovering the ball as quickly as possible.

Pioli gets the credit for everything Lazio achieved last season, but our tactics and philosophy is as much down to Tare and Lensen as it is to Pioli.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Evesto on August 05, 2015, 12:14:57 PM
Not a question.
Lensen stated that out youth academy will be builth and run in the image of the Ajax academy.
The 433 will be the standard starting formation and players will be attracted who can fith that model.

I removed your post so that the Q&A is separate to discussions on the academy and I've merged your post to the original topic we set up for the announcement of the Academy.

Just to add to your post above, Lensen also said in the past that our style of play is focused on recovering the ball as quickly as possible.

Pioli gets the credit for everything Lazio achieved last season, but our tactics and philosophy is as much down to Tare and Lensen as it is to Pioli.

Oké thanks, you were correct to do so.

I like that philosophy, to take whatever the opponent's strenght is away from them.  Quickly recovering, keeping the ball and a speedy attack and counter.

And to add with this, this also shows why the focus was on a player like Milinkovic.  Hard working physical CM's with some creativity are very usefull with this kind of tactic.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on June 14, 2016, 08:33:53 AM
LLSN claim to have contacted Stefano De Martino on April 27 to ask why there has been no movement on the academy. They say Stefano De Martino was the designated contact for queries relating to the academy. On 29 May - 32 days later - they received a reply saying that only President Lotito is capable of giving answers on the matter, and that he's not available for interviews at this time. Furthermore, we've had Joop Lensen employed for almost 18 months as Director of an academy which doesn't exist, and shows no signs of existing any time in the foreseeable future.

It always puzzles me that when the are very obvious examples of communication and planning failures like the above, no one really seems to care, but if the player we bought for 5 million in the most recent transfer window doesn't perform like a 50 million euro player, our management is cursed out of it.

This is the stuff that disappoints me.

Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: ArmLaziale on June 14, 2016, 08:47:27 AM
I am really tempted to say, this is your typical Italian way of doing stuff, I hope I am not too offensive, but I am following closely the world of cars and this is how things were done/are being done in the last decade and + years in Fiat. Words, promises without anything to back it up. Big mouth, huge pride and nothing behind it. With this kind of management, no serious things can be expected from this team. I was really against anything with a foreign takeover of the club, but it appears that's the only way of seeing Lazio being something more than a top 8 club.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on May 03, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
Lazio held an event today - 'goalkeeper day' - where the goalkeepers of our youth team got to train with our professional coaching staff and get some words of wisdom.

Anyway, Joop Lensen gave an interview and said that the first two years of our youth project has largely been about getting things together, but next season will bring a 'big surprise'.

Since this academy was announced three years ago and there's no signs of it, I guess any movement on that would qualify as a 'big surprise'. But let's see.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on October 07, 2017, 02:24:44 PM
Mauro Bianchessi spoke on LazioStyle Radio about the youth project.

He said the club have a youth project called 'oro biancazzurro' that aims to raise the levels of every athlete. There is a 5-year plan to have players from the youth ranks breaking into the first team.

Lazio will track the youth players with GPS and perform video analysis and will work extensively on the physical shape of the young players. We will have a psychologist, a nutritionist and even a martial arts specialist working with the players, trying to find ways to improve them. Bianchessi said the idea is that the youth team get used to the methods of a first team so the transition from the two is more straight-forward.

Bianchessi hailed Simone Inzaghi's influence and highlighted Murgia's emergence as an example to the youth. He said that with Tare, Calveri and Lotito, there are four people working very hard on the youth department and there are others assisting, leading Lazio to have two scouting networks - one inside the region, one outside the region.

He also pointed out that Lazio can be a great place for young players as it is clear that you can get playing time in the first team. He pointed out that if Donnarumma went to Juventus, he wouldn't be playing, so this is something Lazio can offer youngsters that the likes of Juventus cannot.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on October 07, 2017, 03:12:09 PM
He pointed out that if Donnarumma went to Juventus, he wouldn't be playing, so this is something Lazio can offer youngsters that the likes of Juventus cannot.

And yet our most hyped up talent in the youth ranks did just that in the summer  :roll_eyes:

Not disagreeing with what he's saying btw, I would also suggest a player like Murgia would not have gotten a chance at Juve. But makes you wonder wtf Portanova was thinking joining Juventus while seeing the first team coach in Lazio trusting his youngsters with lots of playing time.

Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on October 07, 2017, 03:25:34 PM
And yet our most hyped up talent in the youth ranks did just that in the summer  :roll_eyes:

Not disagreeing with what he's saying btw, I would also suggest a player like Murgia would not have gotten a chance at Juve. But makes you wonder wtf Portanova was thinking joining Juventus while seeing the first team coach in Lazio trusting his youngsters with lots of playing time.

Most likely, he was thinking of playing for Juventus for more money, like 95% of players would do if Juventus made them an offer.

I have a suspicion Lazio have given up a bit on anyone over the age of 16 to be honest. We added some players to our Primavera but we could've done much more in the market, and the U17s have conceded 19 goals in 4 games which gives you some idea of the quality in that team.

Bianchessi spoke about U16s on the radio - it could be simply because they are doing well, it could also be that this is where he's making his influence count.

So you have to wonder with Portanova if the club simply think he's one of the better players in a very bad youth team and were happy to let him walk.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on November 17, 2017, 11:23:06 AM
LLSN interviewed Roque Junior - former Milan player and 2002 Brazilian World Cup winner - who spent some time with our youth department last season.

He had some nice words to say about the work Joop Lensen was doing at Lazio, essentially saying that the vision was very clear and that's what you need, but he also pointed out that Lazio are behind clubs of a similar stature on the continent when it comes to the youth sector and he said Italy overall is behind Germany, Spain, England and France when it comes to this matter.

Interestingly, Roque Junior is now managing Ituano in Serie D in Brazil - the same club we poached Luiz Felipe from.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on June 20, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
There were reports a while back that red tape was preventing this project from really getting off the ground, but it is being reported today that a lot of work has been done at Formello in the last month and this may come to fruition rather quickly now.

If I remember correctly, Lotito also hinted in recent times that there would be some sort of announcement on this front.

It would be great if we could make real progress in this department. This morning, it was suggested that if we do sell SMS for a huge figure, the money could go to clearing all our debts and paying off the mortgage on Formello.

Interesting times.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Stefano6 on June 20, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
To be honest, I would be completely OK with selling SMS if we were to use that money to become debt free, and if we then completely own Formello too then even better.

Its a slightly different situation, but look at Arsenal.. they almost completely paid for their stadium by having a few seasons of putting most of their money into it, which did mean fewer signings on the pitch, but now they are back on track, and arent paying off the stadium anymore.

If we could be finally clear of the debt left over from Cragnotti, we own Formello and can perhaps start to rejuvenate it a bit, that really puts us in a good position to build for a bright future.

And ive said before, SMS is replaceable, hes a good player sure but hes one player, if money from his sale is not used on a top class replacement player, I honestly dont think we would fall down the league, not next season.
If we sell him for €100m, we dont owe that much, there would be some left over for transfers.


And maybe it would finally shut up those fans who say Lotito doesnt want to move us forward as a club and hes happy being in debt and has no ambition.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Cathal on June 20, 2018, 12:10:33 PM
It would only make sense to clear our debts if Lotito realises upon selling SMS for 150 million or so that the money will make little or no difference to what we can do on the field. There's no point sacrificing potential Champions League revenue to be debt free, because it's basically giving away money. But if we think this team can make Top 4 without spending all of that 150 million, why not clear our debts?

As for the youth setup, if I understood correctly, Tare is still in charge of Primavera and U17s while Bianchessi is responsible for signing younger, more local players.

Considering our Primavera disappointed of late, it wouldn't surprise me if we see someone else come in to help Tare and Bianchessi, especially if this youth project is moving forward. There was talk of Foggia last summer, and I could see that kind of conversation arising again.
Title: Re: l'Academy Bob Lovati
Post by: Crni Đorđe on June 20, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
And perhaps more importantly from Lotito's point of view - clearing out mortgage on Formello would allow him to eventually sell the club for much higher price.