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Title: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on July 14, 2017, 01:39:55 PM
The directlty qualyfied teams :

ESP: Villarreal, Real Sociedad
GER: Köln, Hertha Berlin 
ENG: Arsenal
ITA: Lazio, Atalanta
POR: Guimarães
FRA: Lyon
RUS: Lokomotiv Moskva
UKR: Zorya Luhansk
BEL: Zulte Waregem
NED: Vitesse
TUR: Konyaspor
SUI: Lugano
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on July 27, 2017, 09:14:30 PM
I'm curious what happened with PSV, that they lost at home to Croatian club Osijek :supsmile:


btw our Belgian farm club is fighting with merda's ex-coach team  :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on July 27, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Strama of Merda and his Sparta Prague getting thumped right now in Belgrade.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on July 27, 2017, 10:02:45 PM
Strama of Merda and his Sparta Prague getting thumped right now in Belgrade.

Merdeee
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on July 27, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
I think Zvezda will qualify for the group stage, they play very well.


Not sure about Partizan, as they eliminated from CL (no chances against Olympiacos) and now are into the EL Play-offs.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on July 27, 2017, 10:48:36 PM
I think Zvezda will qualify for the group stage, they play very well.


Not sure about Partizan, as they eliminated from CL (no chances against Olympiacos) and now are into the EL Play-offs.

Zvezda plays very well?  :razz: more like Sparta plays like shit  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on July 27, 2017, 11:06:06 PM
I think Zvezda will qualify for the group stage, they play very well.


Not sure about Partizan, as they eliminated from CL (no chances against Olympiacos) and now are into the EL Play-offs.

Zvezda plays very well?  :razz: more like Sparta plays like shit  :beer:

If compare what football they showed against Maltese team when they played 3:3 and in previous round against Irtysh, yes they played very well against Sparta  :supsmile:

But, to be honest I always liked Partizan in Serbia  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on August 03, 2017, 10:46:24 PM
PSV Eindhoven eliminated by NK Osijek, 4th placed in Croatian league :D
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on August 03, 2017, 10:53:51 PM
PSV Eindhoven eliminated by NK Osijek, 4th placed in Croatian league :D

A deserved win. PSV plays crap. Gaston Pereiro, who most people here would sign for 10 mil euro, is a joke.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 03, 2017, 11:12:50 PM
And Videoton eliminated Bordeaux, Domzale eliminated Freiburg...Europa League match fixing  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 04, 2017, 01:33:33 PM
I think Zvezda will qualify for the group stage, they play very well.


Not sure about Partizan, as they eliminated from CL (no chances against Olympiacos) and now are into the EL Play-offs.

Zvezda plays very well?  :razz: more like Sparta plays like shit  :beer:

If compare what football they showed against Maltese team when they played 3:3 and in previous round against Irtysh, yes they played very well against Sparta  :supsmile:

But, to be honest I always liked Partizan in Serbia  :beer:

Zvezda got Krasnodar in the draw, tough luck...Partizan against Videoton...

I'm guessing Zvezda can get a result if the first game is played in Belgrade and they perform very good. Otherwise they have very small chance to go through.

Videoton is led by Nikolic, ex Partizan coach who left after the previous season ended so it's going to be interesting...
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 04, 2017, 05:01:08 PM
Zvezda didn't play such good matches in Europe since Zigic, Bisevac and Basta nailed pepperoni in Belgrade almost 15 years ago.  :razz:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 04, 2017, 08:18:21 PM
https://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DvSnaPnckEcE&ved=0ahUKEwi2wtGCmL7VAhVCOhQKHQ6vAWkQ3ywIGzAA&usg=AFQjCNF0PS2Nvbh02r4ikgDcc8tKRuJ01g (https://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DvSnaPnckEcE&ved=0ahUKEwi2wtGCmL7VAhVCOhQKHQ6vAWkQ3ywIGzAA&usg=AFQjCNF0PS2Nvbh02r4ikgDcc8tKRuJ01g)

 :razz:

Even though I don't like Zvezda I was jumping from joy when Zigic scored  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on August 16, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
Braafheid's humble Utrecht beats Mancini's expensive 'star 11' Zenit!      :happy:

 :bravo:  classic  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 24, 2017, 09:44:18 PM
PAOK, Utrecht, Legia Warsaw and Fenerbahce out. Brugge and Dinamo Zagreb minutes from crashing out.

Ajax in all kind of shits, Marseille and Braga still to beat their way in second half, while Everton just conceded in Split thus Hajduk opened duel.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Lazio Forever on August 24, 2017, 09:53:36 PM
Fenerbahche who???

Vardar makes history for Macedonian football.
Waiting for the draw tomorow. Hopefully  Lazio comes to Skopje.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on August 24, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
Bravo Vardar + My countryman Jigauri scored  :bravo:

Also Skenderbeu, Ostersunds & Sheriff, great job!
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on August 24, 2017, 10:40:30 PM
PAOK, Utrecht, Legia Warsaw and Fenerbahce out. Brugge and Dinamo Zagreb minutes from crashing out.

Ajax in all kind of shits, Marseille and Braga still to beat their way in second half, while Everton just conceded in Split thus Hajduk opened duel.

Thanks to the most awfull Brugge performance in Europe since decades i can forget about another chance to see Lazio in my city, ..... again .....  :um_face:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 24, 2017, 11:06:01 PM
And Red Star after ten years, finally...
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 24, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
And Partizan  :bravo:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on August 25, 2017, 12:06:18 AM
And my axe
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 12:09:36 AM
And my axe

Who?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Giolazio on August 25, 2017, 10:12:15 AM
And my axe

Who?

My sword...no....?  :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Cathal on August 25, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
And my axe

Think they lost to Rosenborg mate.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on August 25, 2017, 01:45:04 PM
Lazio
Nice
Zulte
Vitesse

not an easy group, but still we should qualify for the play-offs!

P.S. eh, Vardar was so close.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Amir on August 25, 2017, 01:56:53 PM
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Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on August 25, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
Partizan & Skenderbeu in a group is not a good idea by UEFA  :rolley:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Ljubo1 on August 25, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
Happy with a group it is not the easiest but it Will be oportunity to show also some players who are not gona play in Seria A. I just hope that Italian football asociacion Will let us play on mondays when we play away games in Europe.  :stendvl: :offlag:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 02:28:57 PM
Partizan & Skenderbeu in a group is not a good idea by UEFA  :rolley:

 :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Skenderbeu on August 25, 2017, 02:46:26 PM
Partizan & Skenderbeu in a group is not a good idea by UEFA  :rolley:

Let's see what will come from the game but I'm optimistic about a calm evening in Beograd. I don't believe Partizan together with Vucic will allow any scandal, the time is not right for bad nationalism  :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 02:52:23 PM
Partizan & Skenderbeu in a group is not a good idea by UEFA  :rolley:

Let's see what will come from the game but I'm optimistic about a calm evening in Beograd. I don't believe Partizan together with Vucic will allow any scandal, the time is not right for bad nationalism  :twinkle:

The deranged psychopath?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Silindeee on August 25, 2017, 03:20:56 PM
Except Nice , i will be disappointed if we dont easily qualify to the next round
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Lazio Forever on August 25, 2017, 03:23:52 PM
That was so close.
Next year perhaps, or in second round  :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on August 25, 2017, 03:56:38 PM
Good draw, at least we dont travel to Russia or far country. I hope Baloteli shows his shit again. :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Skenderbeu on August 25, 2017, 04:15:30 PM
Partizan & Skenderbeu in a group is not a good idea by UEFA  :rolley:

Let's see what will come from the game but I'm optimistic about a calm evening in Beograd. I don't believe Partizan together with Vucic will allow any scandal, the time is not right for bad nationalism  :twinkle:

The deranged psychopath?

Vucic has done more related to EU process for Serbia then all candidates together post -99. The situation with the train was a inside scandal but still he has more on his CV regarding EU membership.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on August 25, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
Ours is probably one of the nicest group in my opinion. But the groupstage will take more effort then expected, nobody to underestimate at all.  Great for the team not to have far away games, good locations to travel.

Zulte Waregem - Lazio a godsend for me, a 50min drive.  Vitesse not so far either.

Zulte is currently in topshape, playing the smoothest attacking football in Belgium for sure.
A highly motivated group who have nothing to lose and play for eachother.
This is the last game, i hope Lazio qualified by then.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on August 25, 2017, 04:50:29 PM
Do not underestimate Vitesse. They are very solid this year and found in Matavz (who was linked with us 2 years ago) a solid goalscorer. They started their campaign with 2 wins and 8 goals and they have some very interesting players. Rashica is somebody to look at (as a future hot prospect).

I think we have a group of teams that can play football so I do expect some open games and many goals. If we are serious and aim to win EL, we should show it on the field and qualify.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: hamid on August 25, 2017, 04:57:24 PM
I'm not underestimating any teams, but if we can't qualify against some unknown clubs from lesser European leagues easily, better to play for a position outside EL spot in Serie A.

Maybe they are all good sides, but apart from Nice, the other two teams are totally unknown!
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 05:02:22 PM
Partizan & Skenderbeu in a group is not a good idea by UEFA  :rolley:

Let's see what will come from the game but I'm optimistic about a calm evening in Beograd. I don't believe Partizan together with Vucic will allow any scandal, the time is not right for bad nationalism  :twinkle:

The deranged psychopath?

Vucic has done more related to EU process for Serbia then all candidates together post -99. The situation with the train was a inside scandal but still he has more on his CV regarding EU membership.

Oh sorry I didn't know you're such an expert  :fingerup:  just kidding, but since you're interested let me give you a little input:

1) Vucic has nothing to do with Partizan, thankfully, he's a Red Star fan - and if Grobari wanted to do something they would and Vucic himself could not be able to stop them, nobody could probably
2) him being an ass licking politician doesn't make him good for Serbia but only for himself, his pocket and his thieving pack of uneducated, rotten to the core, unqualified douchebags
3) you'll get a very, very hot atmosphere on JNA stadium and unless you throw a spark yourselves there won't be no incidents. Grobari are a violent group but Serbian Ultras don't attack opposition players, no matter where they are coming from - but hopefully there won't be no away fans in either game because that would be dangerous for both sides

Great draw all in all for Partizan but not so much for Lazio. I see many people here happy with the draw but it's not going to be easy. Nice is dangerous, but of course no point in being scared of a team that has the stupidest striker of all time. I'm thinking that Zulte could be the surprise, very dangerous team that plays a solid attacking football. Vitesse weak in defense but always dangerous.

We need to win the first two games and then get at least 4 points against Nice to avoid a drama in the last two rounds and to be able to focus on Serie A.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 05:07:44 PM
Can someone post our schedule for EL and Serie A combined?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on August 25, 2017, 05:08:41 PM
I don't know how you ended discussing about thieving psychopath Vucic, but I leave it to you two.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 05:10:44 PM
I don't know how you ended discussing about thieving psychopath Vucic, but I leave it to you two.

 :razz:

You see Skenderbeu, everybody knows he's a thieving psychopath  :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Rizmo on August 25, 2017, 05:48:45 PM
Can someone post our schedule for EL and Serie A combined?


http://www.flashscore.com/team/lazio/URcSl02h/fixtures/ (http://www.flashscore.com/team/lazio/URcSl02h/fixtures/)
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Nordic on August 25, 2017, 05:48:56 PM
So we're starting in Arnhem, 14th September  :beer:

Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Skenderbeu on August 25, 2017, 06:20:35 PM
I don't know how you ended discussing about thieving psychopath Vucic, but I leave it to you two.

 :razz:

You see Skenderbeu, everybody knows he's a thieving psychopath  :twinkle:

When I mentioned Vucic I meant that he is the president of the country and for curiosity I did not know he is a red star fan, nevermind. My point was that he is so careful about the EU process. I fallow the west balkan politics but that's something different from football, my prediction is no away fans for both games and no scandal of big matter. Signing ubi... is not a scandal by Uefa so things will go smoothly.

Daje Lazio!!!!
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
I don't know how you ended discussing about thieving psychopath Vucic, but I leave it to you two.

 :razz:

You see Skenderbeu, everybody knows he's a thieving psychopath  :twinkle:

Signing ubi... is not a scandal by Uefa so things will go smoothly.


Let's not go there  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on August 25, 2017, 07:17:40 PM
Can someone post our schedule for EL and Serie A combined?


[url]http://www.flashscore.com/team/lazio/URcSl02h/fixtures/[/url] ([url]http://www.flashscore.com/team/lazio/URcSl02h/fixtures/[/url])


Thank you betting master  :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 01:32:23 AM
I hereby wish to thank the morons (who call themselves Laziali) who were present at the Prague game during the last EL campaign and couldn't behave themselves.  As of today it's official that Lazio - Zulte Waregem at the end of this month will be played behind closed doors.  I was planning a 2 day trip to Rome with 2 friends (1 Zulte Waregem fan) to attend this game.  Very disappointed.

 :fingerup: :fingerup: :fingerup:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Akha on September 01, 2017, 01:43:32 AM
I hereby wish to thank the morons (who call themselves Laziali) who were present at the Prague game during the last EL campaign and couldn't behave themselves.  As of today it's official that Lazio - Zulte Waregem at the end of this month will be played behind closed doors.  I was planning a 2 day trip to Rome with 2 friends (1 Zulte Waregem fan) to attend this game.  Very disappointed.

 :fingerup: :fingerup: :fingerup:

Closed doors for everyone or just the home fans? Because if I remember correctly our return game against Fenerbahçe some of their trendy fans were present then.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 01:52:15 AM
I hereby wish to thank the morons (who call themselves Laziali) who were present at the Prague game during the last EL campaign and couldn't behave themselves.  As of today it's official that Lazio - Zulte Waregem at the end of this month will be played behind closed doors.  I was planning a 2 day trip to Rome with 2 friends (1 Zulte Waregem fan) to attend this game.  Very disappointed.

 :fingerup: :fingerup: :fingerup:

Closed doors for everyone or just the home fans? Because if I remember correctly our return game against Fenerbahçe some of their trendy fans were present then.

All i read was ' behind closed doors ', so i'm guessing a competely empty stadion.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Akha on September 01, 2017, 01:53:59 AM
I hereby wish to thank the morons (who call themselves Laziali) who were present at the Prague game during the last EL campaign and couldn't behave themselves.  As of today it's official that Lazio - Zulte Waregem at the end of this month will be played behind closed doors.  I was planning a 2 day trip to Rome with 2 friends (1 Zulte Waregem fan) to attend this game.  Very disappointed.

 :fingerup: :fingerup: :fingerup:

Closed doors for everyone or just the home fans? Because if I remember correctly our return game against Fenerbahçe some of their trendy fans were present then.

All i read was ' behind closed doors ', so i'm guessing a competely empty stadion.

Well, that's unfortunate then.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on September 01, 2017, 03:30:05 AM
Check that Evesto, Partizan had closed doors against Videoton and still there were away fans at the stadium.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 03:44:47 AM
Check that Evesto, Partizan had closed doors against Videoton and still there were away fans at the stadium.

I will, i'm still following up on it you never know.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Giolazio on September 01, 2017, 06:49:29 PM
Check that Evesto, Partizan had closed doors against Videoton and still there were away fans at the stadium.

I will, i'm still following up on it you never know.  :twinkle:

That's really bad luck. I hope you guys will be representing big time in Belgium?  :offlag:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 06:52:43 PM
Check that Evesto, Partizan had closed doors against Videoton and still there were away fans at the stadium.

I will, i'm still following up on it you never know.  :twinkle:

That's really bad luck. I hope you guys will be representing big time in Belgium?  :offlag:

No doubt,  we will be in Waregem most certainly.  :sciarpa05:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Giolazio on September 01, 2017, 08:17:45 PM
Check that Evesto, Partizan had closed doors against Videoton and still there were away fans at the stadium.

I will, i'm still following up on it you never know.  :twinkle:

That's really bad luck. I hope you guys will be representing big time in Belgium?  :offlag:

No doubt,  we will be in Waregem most certainly.  :sciarpa05:

 :scarfup:

There should be a lot of support out there given the club's ties with Belgium eh?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 01, 2017, 08:54:04 PM
Check that Evesto, Partizan had closed doors against Videoton and still there were away fans at the stadium.

I will, i'm still following up on it you never know.  :twinkle:

That's really bad luck. I hope you guys will be representing big time in Belgium?  :offlag:

No doubt,  we will be in Waregem most certainly.  :sciarpa05:

 :scarfup:

There should be a lot of support out there given the club's ties with Belgium eh?

I should expect so, online groups were going nuts after the draw so there will be support.
All the away games are close, loads of people have probably been waiting for this for like a decade.

Really hope we impress in Europe, most Belgians don't watch a second of Serie A with the whole PL circus and when someone mentions Lazio it's like 'what's that? '   Not that i care about that personally but it would be nice to get a few impressive wins that would show of the club a little.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: dinhochester on September 15, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
Suso's goal. Wow. This guy can kick the ball.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 15, 2017, 02:54:37 PM
Milan will probably go with the 3412 i guess.  Montella already got lot's of comment staying with his 433 so the pressure will be higher now after a good performance,

I just love the Atalanta result, sending a 10x richer PL club back with home after a clear 3-0.  :bravo:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 24, 2017, 11:20:29 PM
Vitesse is definitly for real, they beat Ajax in Amsterdam this weekend.
Okay our defence was awfull in the EL but this makes us look less bad.  :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on September 25, 2017, 04:27:11 PM
Vitesse is definitly for real, they beat Ajax in Amsterdam this weekend.
Okay our defence was awfull in the EL but this makes us look less bad.  :twinkle:

Yeah, Rashica is a really good prospect. Would be nice to have him in our team.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 25, 2017, 06:00:23 PM
Vitesse is definitly for real, they beat Ajax in Amsterdam this weekend.
Okay our defence was awfull in the EL but this makes us look less bad.  :twinkle:

Yeah, Rashica is a really good prospect. Would be nice to have him in our team.

Yeah i said Vitesse but it was again that Rashica that made the diff.
Wouldn't hurt to own such a prospect.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on September 28, 2017, 11:19:11 PM
Our former 'nightmare' Ludogorets beat Hoffenheim.

Josip Elez nearly takes a point with Reijka at San Siro, and scores a penalty.

Everton shines again, giving a point at home to Limassol ... :roll_eyes: 

And another impressive performance from Atalanta, drawing in Lyon.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on November 01, 2017, 11:09:18 PM
Best to win the groupstage, altough i really don't have any doubt.
Cause otherwise Atletico, Napoli or even Dortmund might be waiting in the 2nd round it seems.
Altough the way they play now Atletico and Dortmund are doable for a good Lazio.
A lot of big clubs are looking set to leave the CL after the groupstage.
We might even endup meeting Keita's Monaco later on in the 1/8 finals if we survive the 2nd round of course.

Last season the EL was extremely weak the whole tournament, but this year it won't be.

As interesting our team this season is the difficult it will be to win something.
Bad timing ... 
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on November 02, 2017, 05:08:20 PM
I think we will meet a few big teams anyway if we are serious about EL...Napoli, Atletico, Monaco, Borussia might wait for us on the way. Not to mention Lyon, Arsenal, Marseille, Zenit...in principle we can win against any of them but when on a bad day we can lose against Ludogorets or FCSB...So in truth, it does not really matter all that much.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on November 02, 2017, 05:16:01 PM
I think we will meet a few big teams anyway if we are serious about EL...Napoli, Atletico, Monaco, Borussia might wait for us on the way. Not to mention Lyon, Arsenal, Marseille, Zenit...in principle we can win against any of them but when on a bad day we can lose against Ludogorets or FCSB...So in truth, it does not really matter all that much.

Yes that's certainly true.  Main thing is to win the grouostage and avoid a CL team the next round.  Later on it doesn't matter, weither it's the QF or the Final 'big' teams will have to be beaten.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on November 02, 2017, 05:35:05 PM
"In the draw for the round of 32, the twelve group winners and the four third-placed teams from the Champions League group stage with the better group records are seeded, and the twelve group runners-up and the other four third-placed teams from the Champions League group stage are unseeded. The seeded teams are drawn against the unseeded teams, with the seeded teams hosting the second leg. Teams from the same group or the same association cannot be drawn against each other."

So we're not guaranteed to avoid a CL regardless of whether we finish top or 2nd.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on November 02, 2017, 07:08:02 PM
"In the draw for the round of 32, the twelve group winners and the four third-placed teams from the Champions League group stage with the better group records are seeded, and the twelve group runners-up and the other four third-placed teams from the Champions League group stage are unseeded. The seeded teams are drawn against the unseeded teams, with the seeded teams hosting the second leg. Teams from the same group or the same association cannot be drawn against each other."

So we're not guaranteed to avoid a CL regardless of whether we finish top or 2nd.

That rings a bell from the past, totally forgot about that.  Nice info Ilsempre, thanks.
So in other words it's possible we'll face 1 of the 4 least good performing teams that exit the CL even if we win the group.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Ljubo1 on November 02, 2017, 07:30:58 PM
I don't care. We fear noone. Bring them on.  :band04:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on November 02, 2017, 07:43:20 PM
I don't care. We fear noone. Bring them on.  :band04:

Me neither when using the formation and thesame mentality we had at Juve twice this season but it's the matter of being able to keep up with the busy schedule.  We can't deliver those kind of performances every week.  At some point either the EL or the Serie will have to get some priority.  But it's something that doesn't have to be decided yet.  It depends on lot's of aspects wich will only become more clear in the coming months.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: christ_JM on November 03, 2017, 12:14:04 AM
I don't care. We fear noone. Bring them on.  :band04:

Me neither when using the formation and thesame mentality we had at Juve twice this season but it's the matter of being able to keep up with the busy schedule.  We can't deliver those kind of performances every week.  At some point either the EL or the Serie will have to get some priority.  But it's something that doesn't have to be decided yet.  It depends on lot's of aspects wich will only become more clear in the coming months.

The busiest schedule for us has passed.

What I mean by that is that you need to give 100% for the league at the start of the season, but also to secure qualification out of group stage in Europe. We have now achieved that with our win tonight.

We can rest easy knowing that we can field Murgia Palombi etc in the last 2 games without having to risk Immobile and the like.

Now we focus on the league until the knockout stages.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on November 23, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Another Bonucci error leading to the opening goal from Austria Wien at San Siro.
Luiz Felipe & Patric have been more solid in the EL then Milan's 40mill defender ....  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on November 24, 2017, 02:12:29 PM
So far these teams has secured the first place and therefore we won't meet them in the next round: Villareal, Salzburg, Arsenal and Milan. We wouldn't have met Milan as they're Italian. That also means we're sure of not clashing into Atalanta in the next round.

Still no teams certain of ending third in the CL groups, so many possibilities there still.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 06, 2017, 10:51:10 PM
So the following teams will be added to the EL knock out stage

CSKA Moscow
Celtic
Atletico Madrid
Sporting CP
Spartak Moscow
Napoli
Leipzig
Dortmund

Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 06, 2017, 10:56:17 PM
Spartak, Celtic and Borussia Dortmund unseeded clubs from Champions League. Also Napoli, but we can't face them in first knockout round.

Unseeded teams from Europe League, bar Nice, aren't still known.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 06, 2017, 11:08:54 PM
Seems like Napels underestimated a proud club with nothing to lose aye ....  :bravo:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on December 06, 2017, 11:19:28 PM
Seems like Napels underestimated a proud club with nothing to lose aye ....  :bravo:

Tell me about it  :ohnoo: I hate that gypsy team so much!

I was waiting Napoli to score the second goal for 80 euros.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 06, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
Seems like Napels underestimated a proud club with nothing to lose aye ....  :bravo:

Tell me about it  :ohnoo: I hate that gypsy team so much!

I was waiting Napoli to score the second goal for 80 euros.

We'll take away their EL trophy in the final !  :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on December 06, 2017, 11:33:33 PM
Seems like Napels underestimated a proud club with nothing to lose aye ....  :bravo:

Tell me about it  :ohnoo: I hate that gypsy team so much!

I was waiting Napoli to score the second goal for 80 euros.

We'll take away their EL trophy in the final !  :twinkle:

That would be very nice  :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 07, 2017, 12:00:51 AM
Napoli Soccer underestimated Shaktar - not Feyenoord - and that bite them in the ass.

However, I don't think they will grade Europe League as anything but sideshow effect in their season. With twist of fate they can end with some serious opponent already in February.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 07, 2017, 12:27:21 AM
Napoli Soccer underestimated Shaktar - not Feyenoord - and that bite them in the ass.

However, I don't think they will grade Europe League as anything but sideshow effect in their season. With twist of fate they can end with some serious opponent already in February.

Yes of course they were eliminated even with a win a Holland but still, untille Shakthar was ahead they weren't shining either.  Shakthar is a very tough opponent, has been for years.

Facing them and City in the groupstage is simply bad luck if you see how other groups were put together.

They will put everything on the Scudetto so i agree with what you said, don't think they will go that far in the EL.  We have more room to gamble so that puts us in a better position for the EL.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 08, 2017, 01:09:09 AM
Top seeds: CSKA Moscow, RB Leipzig, Atletico Madrid, Sporting CP, Villarreal, Dinamo Kiev, Sporting Braga, Lokomotiv Moscow, Viktoria Plzen, Arsenal, RB Salzburg, Athletic Bilbao, Zenit, Milan, Atalanta, Lazio

Second seeds: Spartak Moscow, Celtic, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Astana, Partizan Belgrade, Ludogorets, AEK Athens, Lyon, Copenhagen, Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, Olympique Marseille, Ostersunds, Nice, Real Sociedad

This Monday the draw will be held for the knock out stage. We will draw one of the unseeded teams on that list apart from Napoli who we can't face due to them being an Italian club. Also we can't face Nice again.


Most of those teams are beatable as long as we turn up on the day. I'd like to avoid the team needing to travel to Moscow and also Dortmund is a very strong team so if we can avoid them too that would be great.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on December 08, 2017, 01:19:33 AM
Hoping for Ostersunds, Ludogorets or AEK
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: hamid on December 08, 2017, 07:50:48 AM
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Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Biancocelesti on December 08, 2017, 08:14:03 AM
I hope we'll draw Östersund, would be nice for us living in Sweden!
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: edo_shehb on December 08, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Top seeds: CSKA Moscow, RB Leipzig, Atletico Madrid, Sporting CP, Villarreal, Dinamo Kiev, Sporting Braga, Lokomotiv Moscow, Viktoria Plzen, Arsenal, RB Salzburg, Athletic Bilbao, Zenit, Milan, Atalanta, Lazio

Second seeds: Spartak Moscow, Celtic, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Astana, Partizan Belgrade, Ludogorets, AEK Athens, Lyon, Copenhagen, Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, Olympique Marseille, Ostersunds, Nice, Real Sociedad

This Monday the draw will be held for the knock out stage. We will draw one of the unseeded teams on that list apart from Napoli who we can't face due to them being an Italian club. Also we can't face Nice again.


Most of those teams are beatable as long as we turn up on the day. I'd like to avoid the team needing to travel to Moscow and also Dortmund is a very strong team so if we can avoid them too that would be great.

wait, ko stage?, I thought there's gonna be a 2nd group match?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 08, 2017, 12:57:31 PM
Nah no more group stage..

If we draw Copenhagen I'm going to be very happy  :band04:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 08, 2017, 05:30:11 PM
Top seeds: CSKA Moscow, RB Leipzig, Atletico Madrid, Sporting CP, Villarreal, Dinamo Kiev, Sporting Braga, Lokomotiv Moscow, Viktoria Plzen, Arsenal, RB Salzburg, Athletic Bilbao, Zenit, Milan, Atalanta, Lazio

Second seeds: Spartak Moscow, Celtic, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Astana, Partizan Belgrade, Ludogorets, AEK Athens, Lyon, Copenhagen, Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, Olympique Marseille, Ostersunds, Nice, Real Sociedad

This Monday the draw will be held for the knock out stage. We will draw one of the unseeded teams on that list apart from Napoli who we can't face due to them being an Italian club. Also we can't face Nice again.


Most of those teams are beatable as long as we turn up on the day. I'd like to avoid the team needing to travel to Moscow and also Dortmund is a very strong team so if we can avoid them too that would be great.

wait, ko stage?, I thought there's gonna be a 2nd group match?

It has been quit a few years since that was the case my friend.   :whistle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 08, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
Hoping for Ostersunds, Ludogorets or AEK

I would like to set things straight with Ludogorets when having the chance.
But of course those other 2 would be easier, i guess.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on December 08, 2017, 06:43:00 PM
Pleeeeeease draw Copenhagen, I live right next to the stadium!
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 08, 2017, 07:21:56 PM
Pleeeeeease draw Copenhagen, I live right next to the stadium!

I'll root for you.  It's a doable draw and Ludogorets after all is not a pleasent trip to play there.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on December 08, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
Only teams I would like to dodge are Sociedad and Lyon. Every other team from the second hat is weaker than us.

Everybody wants Lazio to come to their neighborhood  :razz: we could get Partizan or Zvezda but if I take the quality of these teams into question it would be better for us to get Partizan than Zvezda. Partizan is a very weak team defensively unlike Zvezda who would give us trouble for sure, especially if the first game was to be played at their stadium.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 10:36:47 AM
Would like to get Ludogorets to beat the hell out of them.

Except Lyon and maybe Dortmund (now that they will have a new coach), the rest of the teams are doable.

Maybe good to avoid Spartak Moscow and Astana (winter, long travel time).
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Gianni Calcio on December 11, 2017, 11:33:26 AM
Would like to get Ludogorets to beat the hell out of them.

Except Lyon and maybe Dortmund (now that they will have a new coach), the rest of the teams are doable.

Maybe good to avoid Spartak Moscow and Astana (winter, long travel time).

I agree and it's easy for our players to get injured in the cold Russian winter.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 11, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
Seeded: AC Milan (ITA), Arsenal (ENG), Atalanta (ITA), Athletic Bilbao (ESP), Atletico Madrid* (ESP), Braga (POR), CSKA Moskow* (RUS), Dynamo Kiev (UKR), Lazio (ITA), Leipzig* (GER), Lokomotiv Moskow (RUS), Plzeň (CZE), Salzburg (AUT), Sporting CP* (POR), Villarreal (ESP), Zenit (RUS)

Unseeded: AEK Athens (GRE), Astana (KAZ), Borussia Dortmund* (GER), Celtic* (SCO), Copenhagen (DEN), Red Star Belgrade (SRB), Steaua Bucharest (ROU), Ludogorets (BUL), Lyon (FRA), Marseille (FRA), Napoli* (ITA), Nice (FRA), Östersund (SWE), Partizan Belgrade (SRB), Real Sociedad (ESP), Spartak Moskow* (RUS)

Fu ck yes draws: Copenhagen, Ludogorets, Celtic, Astana, Ostersund

hmmm ok: Red Star, AEK Athens, Steau Bucharest, Partizan

please no: Dortmund, Lyon, Marseille, Sociedad and Spartak.

That's for me anyway..
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Ed on December 11, 2017, 01:15:24 PM
Add Celtic to the don't want list. It's not that I think they are particularly good but I think the away leg would still be very difficult. I wouldn't want all the Celtic loving media to have a field day if they knocked us out!
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Some tough games:

Dortmund - Atalanta
Napoli - Leipzig
Lyon - Villareal
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 11, 2017, 01:25:04 PM
phew, we avoided Lyon..
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
phew, we avoided Lyon..

if we avoid Marseille too, we will have a lucky draw...especially considering what Napoli and Atalanta got.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 11, 2017, 01:28:19 PM
Steau Bucharest..hmmm. Well it could have been a lot worse.

Surely we can beat them
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 01:29:58 PM
Steau Bucharest..hmmm

FCSB :)

It won't be a walk in the park, but certainly doable. I know the team pretty well and I can tell you that they are very very unstable. A poor coach, a stupid owner, a group of player that changes every 3 months according to the owner, they can barely play as a team. That being said, they do get all the best talent from Romania, so we should not underestimate them.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Ljubo1 on December 11, 2017, 01:31:02 PM
We are heading to the finals :band04: :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on December 11, 2017, 01:33:41 PM
How good Steaua is nowdays after all the shit they went trough?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: LazialefromGhent on December 11, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
Will be a special match for Radu. He is a former Dinamo Bucharest player, they have a big rivalry with FCSB.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
How good Steaua is nowdays after all the shit they went trough?

Reasonably good.

They are very unpredictable - they won first 3 games in their group easily and then couldn't care less. They are 5 points behind the leader in the Romanian League (on 2nd place). They have very promising players (mixture of young and experienced), but the team is very unstable as the coach (Dica) is a puppet of the owner (Becali).

Players to watch for: Budescu (by far the most dangerous player - attacking midfielder), Gnohere and Alibec (strikers - can score), Florinel Coman (considered at 19 one of the most promising players in Romania), Man (same story), Romeo Benzar (was linked to us, the right wing - very fast and technical), Balasa (22, strong defender), Florin Tanase (their number 10 - growing in strength).

Pintilii and Teixeira are the experience in the team, but quite average if you ask me.

Again, half of these players might be gone or frozen till February, so we will need to update the list. If I were Tare I would watch at least Coman, Man, Tanase and Balasa - we might get some good deals early for them. 

Very interesting is Steaua (or FCSB) schedule around our games:

    3 februarie Gaz Metan - FCSB
    10 februarie FCSB - CFR
    15 februarie FCSB - Lazio
    18 februarie Dinamo - FCSB
    22 februarie Lazio - FCSB
    25 februarie FCSB - Sepsi

So they play the leader CFR before our first game and then the derby against Dinamo in between. But is Romania, so they might re-schedule.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: LazialefromGhent on December 11, 2017, 01:52:57 PM
I'm finding very cheap flights to bucharest. Would this trip be worth it?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 11, 2017, 02:07:07 PM
Beautiful and historic city
Nice food
Good looking women
La Lazio

In whatever order you see fit. Yes the trip is worth it  :Esflag:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: LazialefromGhent on December 11, 2017, 02:17:39 PM
alright thx for the advice!

 35€ return flights
 :band04:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: laziottimo on December 11, 2017, 02:38:02 PM
Beautiful and historic city
Nice food
Good looking women
La Lazio

In whatever order you see fit. Yes the trip is worth it  :Esflag:

Are you talking about Rome?:)
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on December 11, 2017, 04:30:13 PM
How good Steaua is nowdays after all the shit they went trough?

I haven't been updated - what shit have they been through?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 04:39:51 PM
How good Steaua is nowdays after all the shit they went trough?

I haven't been updated - what shit have they been through?

Stupid owner, changing coach every half year, lost name and history, new team created in 4th division with same name (steaua - which is the team that most people support), etc. Basically most people consider that FCSB is not Steaua and they do not represent the colors and tradition of the club.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Terzino on December 11, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
Such a shame for a team like Steaua to lose out on it's identity like that
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Danish-Laziofan on December 11, 2017, 05:32:49 PM
How good Steaua is nowdays after all the shit they went trough?

I haven't been updated - what shit have they been through?

Stupid owner, changing coach every half year, lost name and history, new team created in 4th division with same name (steaua - which is the team that most people support), etc. Basically most people consider that FCSB is not Steaua and they do not represent the colors and tradition of the club.

Oh I also wondered why they were titled FCSB all the time. Damn, too bad for them. So basically FCSB and Steaua Bukarest isn't the same team? Or is it a little like Fiorentina and Napoli teams?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on December 11, 2017, 06:09:33 PM
The draw isn't great but it isn't terrible either. Go there and obtain a positive result, in case of loose ends demolish them at home and Robert is your mother's brother
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: phantomm1976 on December 11, 2017, 06:45:16 PM
 I'n happy with the draw. Not a long travel,cold etc.
 We can play again with the same players like in group matches....
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 11, 2017, 06:53:27 PM
How good Steaua is nowdays after all the shit they went trough?

I haven't been updated - what shit have they been through?

Stupid owner, changing coach every half year, lost name and history, new team created in 4th division with same name (steaua - which is the team that most people support), etc. Basically most people consider that FCSB is not Steaua and they do not represent the colors and tradition of the club.

Oh I also wondered why they were titled FCSB all the time. Damn, too bad for them. So basically FCSB and Steaua Bukarest isn't the same team? Or is it a little like Fiorentina and Napoli teams?

Is complicated. Steaua was the Army club during the ******* years. For some years after the communism fall, they did ok - solid team always in CL etc. at some point using some very tricky deals Becali (cousin of a famous player agent with same name and former shepard and mafia businessman) managed to buy the club but not the name and stadium. Although the guy is very stupid (and i mean really stupid - the level of a 10 year old), first years under him were good - Steaua reached the Europa League semifinals etc. but then the scandals started. First he started to change the coach every 3 months. Then he started playing the coach by dictating the starting lineup. Supporters turned against him. “becali go away” action - very similar to Lotito vatene. Then the Army (still the owner of the stadium) kicked him out and sue him for the name. He lost the name and history and the Army and some former players started a team called Steaua from scratch. So now you have a team that plays in Europe called FCSB - Becali’s team and a team called Steaua in the lowest division. Supporters are split between the 2 - real fans support the team started from scratch, others do not care and they are happy that Becali buys the most valuable players in Romania and wins titles.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 11, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
Not an easy draw but it should not become a problem.  It all will keep on depending also if we have a complete fit roster to field adequate teams in all those important games.

--------------------------

Napels aren't going to have it made against Leipzig, very tricky outfit.  I like this draw.
And i can see Atalanta being a nuissance for Dortmund.

Ludogorets will give Milan trouble, no doubt.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Ljubo1 on December 15, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
http://www.football-italia.net/114304/europa-league-lazios-level (http://www.football-italia.net/114304/europa-league-lazios-level) That's what I'm talking about. And it's from my belloved site.  :razz: Smart guy this Stevens.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: MMV on December 15, 2017, 11:12:13 AM
I actially think it's a bit condescending. I mean player for player Roma and us are certainly equal maybe even Inter are pretty comparable in terms of quality.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on December 15, 2017, 11:36:55 AM
I actually think that we are not in the top 5 favorites for EL.
Atletico Madrid, Arsenal, Lyon, Napoli and Dortmund are the top 5 favorites.
Then comes a group with us, Leipzig, Marseille, Sporting CP and Villareal with comparable chances.
Surprises can come from the russian teams.
On paper at least.

I actually think that Atletico Madrid will try to win this and that they are the main favorites. Our chances will depend on luck at draws and motivation.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on December 15, 2017, 11:47:59 AM
Well first we have to beat Bucurest. Considering how we like to make lives difficult for ourselves, and that if we win against Fiorentina in the Coppa we will have semifinals on 30.1. and 28.2., coupled with a tight SerieA schedule, and who says we won't lose someone important during the winter mercato or due to injury.
I consider us underdogs for the EL.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 15, 2017, 02:22:47 PM
I actually think that we are not in the top 5 favorites for EL.
Atletico Madrid, Arsenal, Lyon, Napoli and Dortmund are the top 5 favorites.
Then comes a group with us, Leipzig, Marseille, Sporting CP and Villareal with comparable chances.
Surprises can come from the russian teams.
On paper at least.

I actually think that Atletico Madrid will try to win this and that they are the main favorites. Our chances will depend on luck at draws and motivation.

Spot on imo.  If we win it it will be with some help of who we meet and when.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on December 15, 2017, 02:33:23 PM
The further we make it into EL the bigger problems we're going to face in Serie A. So at some point Inzaghi will need to make a decision on what to prioritize and where sacrifices can be made.

Our best 11 playing like they did two months ago has a chance at winning the tournament. But it's also going to require some lucky draws I believe. I'm mostly concerned about Atletico Madrid, their team is on another level and even their reserves could severely punish our best team.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 15, 2017, 03:06:23 PM
The further we make it into EL the bigger problems we're going to face in Serie A. So at some point Inzaghi will need to make a decision on what to prioritize and where sacrifices can be made.

Our best 11 playing like they did two months ago has a chance at winning the tournament. But it's also going to require some lucky draws I believe. I'm mostly concerned about Atletico Madrid, their team is on another level and even their reserves could severely punish our best team.

If the club doesn't want this to become an issue in the later stages they will have to act in the wintermercato, quit simple to me.

An experienced defenders is clearly an objective already, but next to that (at minimum) we would require a usefull DM/CM.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Stefano6 on December 15, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
The next month or so will probably be decisive for Inzaghi, and he will have to choose whether to concentrate on the league or the Europa League, depending on Serie A results.

Bare in mind the EL winner gets a place in next seasons Champions League, so if results arent going our way in Serie A, then he may decide to push for the trophy.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: valdanito on December 15, 2017, 11:00:08 PM
Atletico Madrid are favs on paper, but when the players are calling it a shit competition you actually wonder if they will focus on it.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Cathal on December 16, 2017, 11:01:15 AM
Think the fatigue and depth issue is being blown out of proportion.

With regard to fatigue - Juventus, Napoli and 1927 are in the same boat as us and we've been able to hang with them for almost 4 months so no reason to think we cannot do so in the second half of the season. It becomes an issue in March or April if we're still in Europe and the others are not. Until then, it's close to being a level playing field.

With regard to depth - we basically played 7, 8, 9 reserve players in Europa League against teams supposed to be somewhere around the same level as clubs like AC Milan and Arsenal - and we had the group won after 4 of the 6 games. On Thursday, we started six bench players against Cittadella and had the game over and done with after 25 minutes. Cittadella are 4 points off the top of Serie B - they could be in our league next season - and we destroyed them. They are the calibre of team that in seasons gone by, would put 3, 4 or 5 goals past us in January or February.

Our bench is most probably good enough to finish Top 10 in Serie A, if not higher. To buy two or three players in the January market, we have to sell two or three players (squad registration rules). Why on earth would you decide to wheel and deal midway through the season? We are having one of the best seasons in our history, partly because we have more depth than at any point in Lotito era. You can take any 4-5 players out of this team, and I can still make the team look very good.

We are one of the favourites for Europa League. Bookmaker odds don't reflect that because they are based largely on reputation - how else can anyone seriously argue Milan are more likely to win any competition than Lazio? There are 2-3 teams with a better team on paper, but we're playing as well as anyone.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 16, 2017, 12:40:22 PM
Much truth, but i can't rate Lazio like you do.  Our important midfielders are 31 and 32.

Imo we need a sub for those two adequate enough.  I'can't look at Murgia for that yet and Di Gennaro is fine for lesser games or the EL groupstage, but hard to look further then that.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Cathal on December 16, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
Much truth, but i can't rate Lazio like you do.  Our important midfielders are 31 and 32.

Imo we need a sub for those two adequate enough.  I'can't look at Murgia for that yet and Di Gennaro is fine for lesser games or the EL groupstage, but hard to look further then that.

We'd need to lose our entire midfield for Di Gennaro to be a starter. I know what you're saying - it's the area of most concern to me also - but Juventus and Napoli cannot cope with certain injuries to certain players, neither can the competition in EL.

Arsenal, Milan, Dortmund etc. field players that wouldn't get in our team and as for teams such as Lyon who draz rated above us, my only thought is why?

If what has been said about this Lazio over the last few months is true, we are THE favourites. I feel I'm downgrading us, but to say we're not among the favourites is being very modest. We were disappointed not to be in the tournament last year because we felt like we could win it with the way it opened up. Well, it looks pretty open to me this year and evidence on the pitch suggests we've improved.

It's a lottery and I can see us going out to Steaua quite easily, but we shouldn't. There's very few teams in this draw we should be content to lose to and not one that would worry me.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on December 16, 2017, 06:53:33 PM
It all depends how high club will rate EL from February onward. If they want to try it seriously - as was in Petkovic's first season - don't see why we can't go at least on semis. Probably not first favorite, but surely in top 5.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on December 16, 2017, 08:53:54 PM
It all depends how high club will rate EL from February onward. If they want to try it seriously - as was in Petkovic's first season - don't see why we can't go at least on semis. Probably not first favorite, but surely in top 5.

Think so to, top 5.

If it would only be EL and always with first squad i'd surely say big candidates for the final.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 01, 2018, 09:43:02 PM
Ajdusted EL list for Lazio :

Portieri (2)

- Strakosha, Guerrieri

Difensori (10)

- Basta, Bastos, Caceres, de Vrij, Lukaku, Marusic, Patric, Radu, Ramos, Wallace

Centrocampisti (8)

- Crecco, Di Gennaro, Leiva, Lulic, Luis Alberto, Milinkovic, Murgia, Parolo

Attaccanti (4)

- Caicedo, Felipe Anderson, Immobile, Nani

A questi calciatori si aggiungo quelli inseriti in lista B: Armini, Cirillo, Miceli, Petricca, Rezzi e Spurio.

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Vargic out, Caceres in
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: 1914 on February 01, 2018, 10:18:16 PM
In my opinion Lazio and Napoli are favorites for winning of the competition (if both teams take seriously the tournament). Steaua are weak opponent at the moment. I believe Lazio will knock them out relatively easy. I hope Inzaghi will try to win LE, the positives of winning the cup are a lot - european cup - prestige,trophy (the most important stuff in every competition), money,  CL place (i believe the team will assure it by serie A standing, but ...who knows), positive reputation :)  :stendvl:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Hadi Van Der Vaart on February 02, 2018, 12:51:52 AM
We kick Vargic out from the squad, but in those two last pointless group games, we didnt give Guido experience with the first team. :bravo:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 02, 2018, 01:54:24 AM
We kick Vargic out from the squad, but in those two last pointless group games, we didnt give Guido experience with the first team. :bravo:

Yes it's a strange situation, but i'm guessing this wasn't really planned out.
Because of having a midfielder short they decided to kick out Vargic and taking the gamble on Strakosha being able to play every game the entire season.

They are gambling on central midfield and goalkeepers.  Hopefully it all goes well.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Cathal on February 02, 2018, 10:13:47 AM
We kick Vargic out from the squad, but in those two last pointless group games, we didnt give Guido experience with the first team. :bravo:

Yes it's a strange situation, but i'm guessing this wasn't really planned out.

From what I gather, Lazio promoted Guerrieri to second goalkeeper after the winter break, and were looking to send Vargic elsewhere in January, but didn't succeed.

As Guerrieri qualifies as a homegrown player, removing him from the squad would've made no difference as Caceres isn't homegrown and couldn't replace him. So the player we took out had to be trained in a foreign country.

There's a rule that if Strakosha and Guerrieri suffer long-term injuries - more than 30 days recovery time - Vargic can be added to the squad immediately.

So it's less of a risk than it seems at first glance, and while LLSN made out yesterday that it was something of a last minute decision, if what was said to me is correct, sounds like we made a decision to change things up in the goalkeeping department at the beginning of the transfer window.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 15, 2018, 11:32:50 PM
Well we are still in the tournament.  :roll_eyes:
Atalanta has a tougher task but is surely capable of still qualifying as they also play at home next.
Napoli is in big trouble, having to play the second leg in Leipzig.
Milan is already trough obviously.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Delta on February 15, 2018, 11:46:33 PM
Napoli wants scudetto, probably wise strategy to forget about EL.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: blue_sky on February 16, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
Napoli want Scudetto but lost to Leipzig, isn't that revealing the true of declining Seri A ? Shame also with Juve.
All I appreciated is only Atlanta
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on February 16, 2018, 03:37:15 AM
Napoli want Scudetto but lost to Leipzig, isn't that revealing the true of declining Seri A ? Shame also with Juve.
All I appreciated is only Atlanta

Leipzig plays the type of football that can destroy Napoli. Leipzig played with their strongest team and Napoli didn't. This isn't proof of Serie A declining or being weaker than shitty Bundesliga, this just means that Napoli don't care about EL.

Really why would they go for EL, Scudetto is much more important.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: blue_sky on February 16, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
I really don't know why a club, especially contenders for championship in his country, make a priority to any tournament.
For Europe and his country like Seri A surely will bring much more benefits to his country and marketing.
So with philosophy bringing a b team to Europe league will just make more declining to league and his national team.
Seri A shall copy what Bundseliga and England premier league. Not to mention also how the level of league 1 being upgraded with PSG, Marseille, Lyon
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on February 22, 2018, 08:55:07 PM
Napoli eliminated on away goals
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 22, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
Atalanta already scored, i hope they throw out Dortmund.
Would look very good for Serie A, and they also deserve it.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on February 22, 2018, 09:24:40 PM
Question, didn't they increase the EL prize money recently? From what I can see the prize money is still a joke

http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/19/what-is-the-europa-league-prize-money-compared-to-the-champions-league-for-2017-18-7013077/ (http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/19/what-is-the-europa-league-prize-money-compared-to-the-champions-league-for-2017-18-7013077/)
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 22, 2018, 09:41:12 PM
Ostersunds 2 goals up at Wembley after 30min !      :bravo:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Delta on February 22, 2018, 09:57:45 PM
Ostersunds 2 goals up at Wembley after 30min !      :bravo:

Hey it was only little fluffy fake copy of Steaua... no need for full drinking marathon tonight yet!  :fingerup: :beer:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 22, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
Ostersunds 2 goals up at Wembley after 30min !      :bravo:

Hey it was only little fluffy fake copy of Steaua... no need for full drinking marathon tonight yet!  :fingerup: :beer:

The Emirates right, pfff  :roll_eyes:

Tought so, only saw the scoreline.  Hard to believe they would dominate right, but still ...
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on February 22, 2018, 11:14:10 PM
Atalanta had it locked, just not good enough on one single occassion.
They were the better of Dortmund in both games.   :bravo:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: valdanito on February 23, 2018, 12:55:37 AM
Berisha was brilliant until he took it upon himself to put Dortmund through,
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: rich on February 23, 2018, 01:16:32 PM
Looks like we’ve got Dynamo Kiev not to bad of a draw apart from traveling
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on February 23, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
So, Dynamo Kiev. Will be tricky. But beatable.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Biancocelesti on February 23, 2018, 01:19:36 PM
I actually think we can benefit from playing the first leg at home, we must try to finish it off right away ahead of the hard trip to Kiev.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 08, 2018, 07:33:53 PM
A deflected shot and Milan are out of their defending comfort zone from the latest weeks.
Footballing weaknesses immediatly visable when going forward.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on March 08, 2018, 07:49:18 PM
What is wrong with Dortmund? What is wrong with German football? They cannot score against Salzburg, are they retarded? Sturm and Admira score against Salzburg regularly. And here I am losing money and nerves because shitty Dortmund cannot score a goal. Did I mention they fielded their strongest lineup? Goetze, Reus, BatSHITayi and Schurle are not able to score a goal against a very average team. And they were mentioned as the favorites here? Come on, be realistic.

Other than Atletico none of these teams are even close to us.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on March 08, 2018, 07:52:08 PM
And Milan is losing 0 2 to Arsenal. Byeee you lucky shits
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on March 08, 2018, 07:59:20 PM
Atletico are so far ahead anyone else in this tournament that it will be a huge shock to me if they don't win it.

Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Delta on March 08, 2018, 08:01:48 PM
Biglia cant control midfield at all  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 08, 2018, 08:06:57 PM
Atletico are so far ahead anyone else in this tournament that it will be a huge shock to me if they don't win it.

Bound to win it sure.  Now they see the title slipping away they will aim for this.
A few others are in thesame situation but less able.

They would need to have a serious mishap to not reach the final i guess..

And Milan is losing 0 2 to Arsenal. Byeee you lucky shits

Jeez they were bad.  Calabria was nowhere against Mikhytarian and Biglia provided no cover.
And toothless attacking.  Cutrone can't create, only finish.  Calhanoglu is anything but a winger.
Bonucci can't deliver a single good pass forward, needs a Juve defence to look his best.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on March 08, 2018, 08:12:01 PM
Lol Dortmund behind against Salzburg now

and 0-2 now..jeez

Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Delta on March 08, 2018, 08:19:46 PM
Berisha!!  :sciarpa05:
EL has another great matchday for bookmakers.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on March 08, 2018, 08:50:01 PM
German football has been bad for a number of years. Other than Bayern, their teams barely reach CL knockout stages and I have trouble understanding how they keep the coefficient numbers.

A team like Dortmund loses against Salzburg. It would be the same if Napoli lost to Malaga.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 08, 2018, 09:04:15 PM
Horrible Milan, a disgrace for the tradition they carry in Europe is the word in the Belgian sportsmedia.

They didn't build up one single decent attack, and against a PL team that has fallen from the top.
No wonder they defended in both Coppa semi's, they aren't capable of anything else.

They play the Coppa final, not fair but that's how football is on many occassions.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on March 08, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
Very limited team with an incredibly limited manager. Beautiful to see them struggle after wasting 200mill in the mercato
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: blue-white on March 09, 2018, 10:19:15 AM
It's really good to see here that people don't follow some clubs.

Salzburg knows exactly how to play in the austrian league, and how they have to perform in EL.
In Austria, the opponents only try to defend and sit back - Salzburg concedes, but often win the games without any problem.
In EL, it'S even sometimes more easy for them.
Look at the last years, look at this season - they often dominate the group stage - every year they are sooo close to qualify for CL, but end up in EL. And all players are young guns!

Dortmund already had so much luck vs. Atalanta - they would have been the best opponent for Lazio!!
I didn't expect that Salzburg win away in Dortmund, but i expected them to score there and get a draw.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Stefano6 on March 09, 2018, 01:48:39 PM
Dortmund have been poor all season. Really they havnt been the same team since Klopp left, they are living on reputation at the minute. Salzburg are decent, im not surprised to see them win, and I think they will win the 2nd leg too.

I cant see anyone winning the tournament except Atletico.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: edo_shehb on March 09, 2018, 02:22:26 PM
(kind of) repeating myself here, if we was against atletico or even arsenal with this kind of defense, we'll be out already
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on March 09, 2018, 05:41:44 PM
Why do you guys think Arsenal is a team who could beat us? They cannot even win against Brighton  :ohnoo:

Losers and mental midgets is what Arsenal is. And we wouldn't bw playing with Wallace against them, because if we did I would have to question the sanity of our coach.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Cathal on March 09, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Why do you guys think Arsenal is a team who could beat us?

Could ask about the same about Atletico, keeping in mind why they're in this competition and who went through to the knockouts at their expense.

If you're in this competition at this stage, you're good but not great. Simple as.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 09, 2018, 05:50:37 PM
Why do you guys think Arsenal is a team who could beat us? They cannot even win against Brighton  :ohnoo:

Losers and mental midgets is what Arsenal is. And we wouldn't bw playing with Wallace against them, because if we did I would have to question the sanity of our coach.

They had it very easy.  Milan simply didn't play, and after the first goal they were toothless to strike back.
We play a different style, they would suffer against our fit first 11.

Calabria had nothing on Mkhytarian and Biglia was 'somewhere else'.  :roll_eyes:

Pressure there backline like Brighton did and you have a game, but Milan was toothless.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on March 09, 2018, 05:57:36 PM
Why do you guys think Arsenal is a team who could beat us?

Could ask about the same about Atletico, keeping in mind why they're in this competition and who went through to the knockouts at their expense.

If you're in this competition at this stage, you're good but not great. Simple as.

You could ask the same question but you cannot compare Arsenal to Atletico. Atletico do have their flaws but Arsenal is like a bunch of idiots led by the biggest idiot.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on March 15, 2018, 10:08:04 PM
Super soft penalty against Berlusconi's Chinese connection. But I laugh, oh boy, how strong I laugh.  :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 15, 2018, 10:13:23 PM
Super soft penalty against Berlusconi's Chinese connection. But I laugh, oh boy, how strong I laugh.  :supsmile:

Hilarious penalty, just saw the replay.  But i surely don't mind, don't feel like seeing our boys play another two games against 10 players packing the box, wasting enery.   :twinkle:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Sile on March 15, 2018, 10:34:42 PM
lol Dollaruma
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: ilsemprelaziale on March 15, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
https://streamja.com/p49

What does this remind you of?

sometimes I wonder how some of these defenders are able to become professional footballers. Oh how far the level of defenders has fallen..
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Silindeee on March 15, 2018, 10:51:29 PM
Are we gonna get salzuburg again guys?revenge time?
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 15, 2018, 11:00:23 PM
Lyon out, no final at home ....
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on March 15, 2018, 11:54:57 PM
Just watched highlights Bilbao vs Marseille, jeez what was that.
Marseille dived all night long and the ref felll for it every single time, no all schwalbes without zero contact.

Where did Garcia coach before ....  :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: phantomm1976 on March 20, 2018, 04:49:40 PM
 We have a good chance for semi final, I hope we will not make mistakes.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on March 20, 2018, 05:07:37 PM
Just watched highlights Bilbao vs Marseille, jeez what was that.
Marseille dived all night long and the ref felll for it every single time, no all schwalbes without zero contact.

Where did Garcia coach before ....  :roll_eyes:

 :razz:

riomma merdeee
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on April 06, 2018, 02:34:24 PM
Well, CSKA got lucky against Lyon but not against Arsenal. Quarter finals for CSKA is more than enough. Arsenal attacked them and scored some very nice goals. Ramsey scored a back heel chip, very nice.

Atletico scored both goals when the Sporting defense made themselves look like idiots. First goal, in the first minute, came from two Sporting defenders looking like a couple of amateurs. Second goal they basically gifted to Griezmann by giving him the ball and creating a 1vs1 situation from which he scored. Other than that, Atletico had two solid chances to score and that is it. The rest of the match Sporting was equal with them.

Leipzig scored the goal from a shot that went under Marseille goalkeeper. Marseille hit the crossbar before that and there were no real chances in the second half.

It will be interesting to see if Sporting can beat Atletico at home and if Leipzig can beat Marseille one more time.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Rizmo on May 03, 2018, 10:09:16 PM
Watching Salzburg-Marseille and it's fücking beyond me how we screwed up. I can't graps how we lost against this shit team, they are absolutely terrible! Getting pissed just by watching how crap they are. Unbelievable  :sevil:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on May 03, 2018, 10:29:17 PM
It's the most inexplicable blackout I had ever witnessed in game of football. Not that we ever played bad for first 70 minutes.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Cathal on May 03, 2018, 10:32:55 PM
It was pretty explicable - Lazio thought the game was won, started conserving energy for Derby and completely stood off them and let them play, and they'd enough about them to take advantage. And while I'm not watching the game tonight, looks like Rizmo may have spoke too soon.

This is European football in 2018 - it really is never over until it's over.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on May 03, 2018, 10:41:41 PM
It's the most inexplicable blackout I had ever witnessed in game of football. Not that we ever played bad for first 70 minutes.

I think so to.  We've seen plenty remontada's in our lifetime but never in this fashion.  Every ball for them defelected in just the right way plus that our team actually stopped playing.  It was embarrasing, even worse then going out against Ludogorets or Praag since we had the goals on the board already.

It still hurts that Lazio isn't noted as a semi finalist, even more knowing with Marseille the final would have been in reach.
Beating Atletico in a final would be another issue but you never know with a final.

Now i try to see it as faith.  Playing semi's and final would have most certainly effected Serie A so reaching CL would have been much more difficult.

Watching Atletico now, always enjoy watching them defend like it's an art.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on May 03, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
To be honest, I'm bit disappointed that European competitions are full of teams that play only ninety minutes of two-legged contest. Look like a trend for years.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Rizmo on May 03, 2018, 10:47:10 PM
It was pretty explicable - Lazio thought the game was won, started conserving energy for Derby and completely stood off them and let them play, and they'd enough about them to take advantage. And while I'm not watching the game tonight, looks like Rizmo may have spoke too soon.

This is European football in 2018 - it really is never over until it's over.

They still play terrible. Great solo run by Haidara and a lucky second but still bad overall.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Rizmo on May 03, 2018, 11:44:05 PM
Allez allez l'OM!

 :Esflag:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Crni Đorđe on May 03, 2018, 11:51:01 PM
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Watching Atletico now, always enjoy watching them defend like it's an art.

I'm really one edge with Atletico - one moment they look like perfect defensive unit, next moment some of their players saving asses with desperate clearence or tackle from edge of five meters.  :razz:  Not really some defensively consistent team in my eyes, but rather full of men willing to put bodies on line for teammates.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on May 04, 2018, 12:21:55 AM
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Watching Atletico now, always enjoy watching them defend like it's an art.

I'm really one edge with Atletico - one moment they look like perfect defensive unit, next moment some of their players saving asses with desperate clearence or tackle from edge of five meters.  :razz:  Not really some defensively consistent team in my eyes, but rather full of men willing to put bodies on line for teammates.

Yes it's not the Atletico from in the CL previous seasons.  Tonight Gabi and Saul needed to take yellows to prevent counters.  But like you said when they are less they still get things done.

Marseille in the final and that's really a mediocra team.  They don't stand a chance imo, they will lose like their other finals before in history.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Giolazio on May 04, 2018, 10:53:31 AM
Suppose Cathal got his wish. Better to get knocked out early than make the final and get pumped by Atletico  :supsmile:
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Secret_Samadhi on May 05, 2018, 12:40:40 AM
I still can't believe how we could fuk it up in Salzburg. I could not watch the game, so I checked the livescore when Ciro scored and thought for myself good we are in the semis. After two hours I checked livescore again and couldn't believe the result. I actually went to an another score app to see the result, I thought livescore messed up. Couldn't get an hour of sleep that night. A nightmare.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on May 05, 2018, 12:49:49 AM
I still can't believe how we could fuk it up in Salzburg. I could not watch the game, so I checked the livescore when Ciro scored and thought for myself good we are in the semis. After two hours I checked livescore again and couldn't believe the result. I actually went to an another score app to see the result, I thought livescore messed up. Couldn't get an hour of sleep that night. A nightmare.

Lucky you, you didn't see it.  :twinkle:

You should check Ciro's goal tough.  The pass from Alberto and the finish was topclass.
Strangest game ever, and we've seen quit a few.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on May 16, 2018, 10:08:37 PM
Watching marseille and atletico play i am wondering how the hell did we manage no to get to this final...so poor game that lazio - atalanta looked like the CL final compared to it.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on May 16, 2018, 10:35:50 PM
Watching marseille and atletico play i am wondering how the hell did we manage no to get to this final...so poor game that lazio - atalanta looked like the CL final compared to it.

True, Marseille has nothing unless Payet has a good day. 

But Atletico is topclass in what they do, even in a dreadfull game like this.  Not a single risky run or pass, all perfectly know constantly where the teammates are and will do.  They are having an easy night.  That pass from Mandanda central and hard towards Anguissa under pressure is not done at this level and certainly not against Atletico who are waiting for it.

The fact that we weren't in the semi's is simply strange, but we know what happened.  Altough it's still somehow unexplainable in some aspects.

But if we did play semi's or even would have made this final (wich was possible against Marseille in the semi's), it's very unlikey we would be playing for that CL spot next sunday.  Not with our absentees lately.  And our defense holding up under Atleti's pressure in a final ... no way.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Delta on May 17, 2018, 02:37:01 AM
Watching marseille and atletico play i am wondering how the hell did we manage no to get to this final...so poor game that lazio - atalanta looked like the CL final compared to it.


Watch Salzburg matches highlights again then  :whistle:
After slow first 5 minutes Atletico owned this final with beautiful football. Always positioned perfect, helping out teammates and attacking smart. Perfect playoff/finals display. Our players should watch this match 100, 200, 300 or more times until they learn something from it...
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Stefano6 on May 17, 2018, 09:10:23 AM
I didnt watch the game, I was at a concert, but everyone knew months back that Atletico were the clear favourites for the competition, so I dont think the final was ever in doubt.

Impressed that Marseille got there, credit where its due, but even they struggled against Leipzig.

In hindsight its a good job we didnt make it that far, an extra match and travel to think about in this last couple of weeks would not have gone well for us.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on May 17, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
Watching marseille and atletico play i am wondering how the hell did we manage no to get to this final...so poor game that lazio - atalanta looked like the CL final compared to it.

True, Marseille has nothing unless Payet has a good day. 

But Atletico is topclass in what they do, even in a dreadfull game like this.  Not a single risky run or pass, all perfectly know constantly where the teammates are and will do.  They are having an easy night.  That pass from Mandanda central and hard towards Anguissa under pressure is not done at this level and certainly not against Atletico who are waiting for it.

The fact that we weren't in the semi's is simply strange, but we know what happened.  Altough it's still somehow unexplainable in some aspects.

But if we did play semi's or even would have made this final (wich was possible against Marseille in the semi's), it's very unlikey we would be playing for that CL spot next sunday.  Not with our absentees lately.  And our defense holding up under Atleti's pressure in a final ... no way.

I was expecting more from Thauvin...a player linked with us who managed like 25 goals and 15 assists this season. but he was invisible. And they also missed Mitroglou who, when he was brought in, was pretty dangerous...

I actually did not think that Atletico played beautiful football at all...they played the boring game they always did this season. Marseille was no match for them, I have the feeling that we would have had a good chance to win this if we would have make it to the final against Atletico.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: lazioserbia on May 17, 2018, 09:42:11 AM
Atletico played like usual, boring football with counter attacking, something similar to Catania and Genoa. Even though they play awful football they are good at it, they rarely made mistakes and deserved the win.

If we got into the final Atletico would have a much tougher job to do. With our full squad they wouldn't be able to be as comfortable as with Marseille last night, that's for sure. Some of those Marseille players had no idea what to do on the field.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on May 17, 2018, 12:44:12 PM
Watching marseille and atletico play i am wondering how the hell did we manage no to get to this final...so poor game that lazio - atalanta looked like the CL final compared to it.

True, Marseille has nothing unless Payet has a good day. 

But Atletico is topclass in what they do, even in a dreadfull game like this.  Not a single risky run or pass, all perfectly know constantly where the teammates are and will do.  They are having an easy night.  That pass from Mandanda central and hard towards Anguissa under pressure is not done at this level and certainly not against Atletico who are waiting for it.

The fact that we weren't in the semi's is simply strange, but we know what happened.  Altough it's still somehow unexplainable in some aspects.

But if we did play semi's or even would have made this final (wich was possible against Marseille in the semi's), it's very unlikey we would be playing for that CL spot next sunday.  Not with our absentees lately.  And our defense holding up under Atleti's pressure in a final ... no way.

I was expecting more from Thauvin...a player linked with us who managed like 25 goals and 15 assists this season. but he was invisible. And they also missed Mitroglou who, when he was brought in, was pretty dangerous...

I actually did not think that Atletico played beautiful football at all...they played the boring game they always did this season. Marseille was no match for them, I have the feeling that we would have had a good chance to win this if we would have make it to the final against Atletico.

Thauvin had a great season, but yesterday Atletico had him covered.  Hernandez who's way more CB then winger was on him, double with Correa.

Marseille is simply to easy for them, Atletico didn't even have to switch to their more intensive play.

We could have reached the final yes, but trouble Atletico without our fully fit starting 11 ....
Under current circumstances it would have been with: Basta, Murgia, Caicedo ....   :roll_eyes:

While Atletico's subs were Vrsaljko, Correa & Hernandez.
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: drazvan on May 17, 2018, 02:24:49 PM
I am actually wondering if Atletico's first 11 is much better than our starting 11...no doubt that they have more deapth and better subs. But I don't really see spectacular players, just players that do their work good and consistent. I think De Vrij, SMS, Felipe, Luis Alberto or Immobile would walk directly into their starting 11. Anyway, useless to talk about it...
Title: Re: 2017/18 Europa League
Post by: Evesto on May 17, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I am actually wondering if Atletico's first 11 is much better than our starting 11...no doubt that they have more deapth and better subs. But I don't really see spectacular players, just players that do their work good and consistent. I think De Vrij, SMS, Felipe, Luis Alberto or Immobile would walk directly into their starting 11. Anyway, useless to talk about it...

That's the thing with Atletico, they make you think that but imo it's an illussion.  With the discipline they play our best wouldn't be in that 11 if transferred this summer.  Simply because we see them at times lose the ball, miss a pass or be out of position wich is simply not allowed in Simeone's team, ever.  Felipe would get into big trouble, De Vrij might be able, maybe also Ciro, SMS and Alberto but not without much more discipline and awareness.  I think Leiva might be a fit for Gabi's spot.

Plus the fact that midfielders like Koke and Niguez get like 1 real chance per game if lucky, but when they do they score.  They create much less chances and score less goals but still the convertion rate is phenomenal.  During moments that team doesn't seem like much but they like that.  They only go full strength when needed, and yesterday there never was.  Not any team like Atletico imo.  Simeone can't go to another club and immediatly do thesame with another team, it also requires certain players and many seasons with keeping the starters at the club.  Guys like Godin, Gimenez, Gabi, Koke, Niguez and a top GK are crucial.